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  • As G/S :)c is so useful, the mainstream isn't somewhere to find open minded people willing to give it a go.

    As the population comes to a global awareness of their alternative history, the public will protest/riot and then be rounded up like a holocaust as that is the predictable outcome of the chaos/order flow of enrgy.

    The only way protesting Humanity (love/fear) and Government (Chaos /Order) are likely to change their direction is to manifest a better Creation is through G/S :)c

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  • There are plenty of people that think like Icke, We were called "weird" growing up, and we had to laugh and play it off like we were only joking.

  • DON'T GET ANGRY AT THE ONES WHO DO NOT SEE IT YET. THERE TO UNBALANCED YOU JUST NEED TO THINK OF A WAY TO CONVENIENCE THEM

  • Icke is a great British nutter . . . sorry, "eccentric".

    Makes you proud to be British.

  • Indeed there is a change! The almighty is pouring His spirit out upon all mankind. There will be no excuse, none will be able to say: "No-one told us" or "I wasn't ready, no-one old me that was happening". In the word of Leonard Cohen "Everybody knows!" Or at least they will before it's all over.

  • bush = monster

  • whether right wing left wing atheist or religious-people wont give up owning another person-the couple-based society-then all wonder why so many problems from birth to death- wisdom comes from nature and the natural mothers clans matriarcal societies-like iroquois women traditional culture

  • I have been into conspiracy theory's for about ten years now , but am very skeptic and thought David Ike was very full of shit. but after releasing the grand illusion we live under which is, time ,money and the legal system, it is hard not to believe most of the things he says

  • on one of david's interviews with a Zulu, the Zulu talked about how virgins are used to extend the lives of the illuminati members with

    'knowledge" eg. Kissenger for one. all they have to do is sleep with the virgen and engulfing them in their arms for weeks or months. Ok? Then I remembered madonna adopting poor little David, and the Michael Jackson, and others. Makes all the sense in the world to me now. Thanks David!!! More eyes need to open!!

  • Yeah too bad Michael died in his 50ties.that Virgin thing must really have back-fired hah?

  • David had a great job on the bbc as a sports comentator he was very well paid and had a great family life,when he first spoke out he almost lost everything he was brought onto bbc tv to be interviewed and was mocked and laughed at by his former workmates,he risked everything because he believes in what he is saying,a lesser man would have kept his mouth shut and carried on with his normal life.

  • when people take the reptilian part too literally i think we begin too miss the point...also the reptilian function to kill or be killed. Entities may have evolved down this path. Look at the Chameleon and other animals that can instantly active there proteins to change colour to suit there environment, is it not a possibility that creatures may have evolved as reptilians due to hot environments, they may have evolved to completely control their proteins resulting in shape shifting.

  • "The energitic eggshell of fear and confusion has disconeted us from the all knowing geniuses that we are". Come on. How can you belive this Harry Potter crap. This wiseman belives that the world is ruled by blooddrinking lizzardmen from another dimension. And that he has exposed them. Yet unfortunately they dont kill him. D. Icke takeup role playing instead of diverting people from the real problems: Hunger, Aids and Poverty with meaningless frases like infinite counsiounes and lizzard people

  • Icke does talk about hunger, poverty, etcetera. His early research was specifically about what you call real problems (first five years or so). Read more of his interviews and books and you'll see that.

    The question might be turned around, of course: what are YOU doing that's so fantastic? But that's not really the point. Most people are blind to what's happening. You can't solve a problem if you don't know it exists. Or worse if you're given a false solution.

    Educate yourself.

  • My problem is:He is promoting a religious view. The world is controled by Reptilians whose exsistence like angels and God cannot be verified. Furthermore he claims to be able to transcend the 5 senses(eggshell) and fathom meataphycical truths: He sets himself up as profet based on ´evidence´ not accecible to others.On this basis he teaches people that the democracy and culture is an illusion constructed by the lizzards.Disolving any base of solidarity and education:Which is alsocreated by Reps

  • Religions have orthodoxy, followers, hierachies, God(s) with specific characteristics, internal organizations, systems of beliefs, manners of prayer, accepted dogma, unnacceptable dogma, etc.

    David Icke hasn't proclaimed any of those and has not asked that anyone do so on his behalf. The ONLY reason I can handle Icke is because, if you listen to him, you'll see that he's not down with the control mechanism we call religion. He rejects religion many times over if you listen.

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  • I would also make note that it is highly important to understand the difference between metaphor, analogy and literal modes of speech. Icke tends to ue analogy. Do not confuse his speaking in analogy with him speaking literally. When he speaks of the egg shell its an analogy that makes certain concepts easier to understand - they are in no way designed to be literal interpretations of reality. They are analogies. Analogies should never be taken literally. This is how religion fails.

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  • As for David Icke setting himself up as a prophet, I think you might be thinking about him being a charlaton. It would be wise to remember that the charlatan prophet seeks power / fame / money or whatever else. David Icke, if you examine how he lives, does not have teenage models doing lines of blow off his dong. He doesn't have throngs of followers waiting on him hand and foot. He doesn't have a Bently with a diamond toilet inside.

    Icke doesn't fit the criteria.

    Continued . . .

  • As for evidence accessible to others it does seem that, speaking of reptiods, he's seeing things. Others have claimed to have seen what he's talking about and, to be honest, this is where I deviate from Icke. I think it's possible to have all of the societal mechanisms Icke talks about without aliens.

    As for whether or not they exist it is important to remember that we don't even know how the jelly inside our skulls interprets information. He might be right. I don't know.

    Cont . . .

  • Finally, as for dissolving the base of solidarity of education I would say that I learned nothing in school and have zero interest in going back to that robot factory. A brief insight might be gleaned from Robert Pirsig. Or J. D. Salinger.

    What we call education has produced the W. Bush's, Clintons, Browns, Rices and every other asshole that has told us to murder other human beings. I think what we call education should be rethought.

    This is a big issue.

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  • Education has completely failed - we know that it's baby sitting before the prospective slave can start pushing bottuns at Best Buy. What we're lacking is wisdom. Wisdom is not taught in any educational course. I speak not only from personal experience, but also from the questions I've asked everyone who has ever attended any school.

    The values of academia are limited to material. For this reason all ethics, morals and good are devoid educationally speaking.

    Continued . . .

  • In order to really make any difference and in order to effect any significant change the only option available is to expand the sphere of knowledge. We're lmited to the tools given to us by education. Those tools have produced poverty, death and anguish. I can't speak for David Icke, though I'm very sure that this is the kind of thing he's speaking about when he attacks academia.

    The only real revolution is a revolution of thought.

    You must educate yourself. They will not.

    Peace.

  • you are an ignorant jackass, and a complete moron

    David Icke is right 100% about everything he has said in his speakings and books

    in the Holy Bible theres a talking serpent in the garden of eden who decieves adam and eve..WAKE UP!!!

    george bush sr and queen elizabeth are both confirmed reptilian shape-shifters. reptilian bloodlines are REAL and so are the anunnaki

    truth is stranger than fiction

  • It seems strange that Ickeans always respond in one of two ways: (1) Moron, Idiot, Fool or the ever classic Sheeple or

    (2) You just do not see the deeper truth. Educate your self. Never questioning Icke himself. I mean it seems none of you are even considering that he could be wrong?? Is it perhabs possible that the world is not ruled by blood drinking reptilians from the 4th dimension? I mean is it so hard to understand why people consider this as a new Sci-Fi religion. Like Scientology?

  • Icke is not asking anyone to believe. Not in a single word he says. But if you _listen_ to what he says, there is lots of information to think about and then draw your own conclusions. Which might be that they are all bonkers, that he talks rubbish or whatever. But if any of it makes just one single person think about things, thats great. Cheers :)

  • I do not know about that. Icke claim that democrcy is an illusion. As we are ruled by blooddrinking lizzards from the 4th dimension. So like in the comparable Sci-fi religion of Scientology. Icke is ruining all trust in the democratic system & the culture the beliver inhabits. Furthermore he states that all scientists, historians & teachers are brainwashing people/children. So all knowledge should be discarded. Except Ickes ´theories´. To me it seems he spreads destructive stupidity

  • Hm. Why should I trust a system such as a democracy or any other for that matter? A system is only as good as the people who defines and exerts it. I would rather NOT trust it and ask questions about it. This is crucial in order to keep it alive and maintain it of use to the general public. If we trust in science, we are no better than those who trust in religion. and trust in an existing dogma will never bring humanity forward. The questions "how?" and "why?" should be asked far more often.

  • I am not saing that you should not question things. Of cource institions & knowledge of all sorts most under constant debate in a healthy society. There is a difference between questioning things though & saying that all aquired knowledge is deliberate lies & society a brainwashing tyrani. Ickes ideas of Lizzardmen ruling the world is not questioning things. Its cult mentality at its worst. Getting people to belive in 4th dimensional reptilians is deluding them into a sect like way of thinking

  • But who should then decide what people should believe in or not? I`ve listened to a lot of Ickes stuff, and even read a couple of his books, and my take on this is basically that if people want to believe to the extent that they are members of a cult, then neither you or me will be able to stop them. And free speech is free speech. I might not agree with all he says but I will defend his right to say it with my life. Cheers :)

  • No of cource not.People have the right to hold any beliefs they whish.However this does not change the fact that surtain belief-structures are harmful & wrong. Like Religious fundamentalim, Scientology, holocaust deniers neonazi. These kind of beliefs should be critizised & opposed by ratinel people. But not made illigal. I think Ickes ideas & his followers are similar to L.R Hubberts ideas of Xenu the Alien dictator in the 1970ties.This turned into Scientology a billion $ brainwashing industry

  • Democracy today IS an illusion, as it only gives us a vote and two choices to select from. What we vote for is minor differences in opinion and no real, tangible difference in real life. There are so many different opinions in the world, and we only get to choose from two that are almost identical? Thats not a real choice in my book.

  • Also. I promise this is the last comment I will send you. Hope I am not totally annoying. But this argument just seems so falasious to me. I mean if you complain that democracy is an illusion. Since you can only chose between a left & right side of the political spectrum. Then if you or anyone has ideas of how to reform society. This is a democratic right. Complaining that all is wrong implies that you must have new & original ideas. If so: Form a party & implement them....

  • I appreciate the input, as its important to get all views out in the open about things. Other views are always interesting and I appreciate it even if I don`t agree with them. All the best! :)

  • Hey. I know I said that no more comments thing...But I just have to add: You were a really cool discussion partner. You are totally correct. The important thing is exchaning view point & considering the other side. Then maybe at the end you have to agree to disagree & then thats that. The important thing is the open debate of all things. So thanks for demonstrating that man & keep it up.

    Best regards

  • @applesmurfen

    You dont elect you are given the choice of select. Thats why no matter who is in power, policies dont change.

  • Oh, and these are only my personal opinions. We should still be able to go out and grab a pint and discuss this even if we don`t agree. Cheers :)

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  • Actually. if you critizice others for beeing ´Repeaters´. What are you doing? A s you say: D. I. is right about EVERYTHING he says in every medium. Really? Who is the Sheeple & follower here. If any of you Ickeans atleast had the guts to critizise him it would be a relief. But no. Icke is 100% right like Jesus or Muhammed. You have no right to say to others they cannnot think for themselves as it is evident you cannot. Also do you even consider it possible that Icke could be wrong?...

  • reptilian shapeshifter you say? :P

  • He rocks but I still have a hard time seeing the queen as a lizzie........

  • he certainly rocks!

  • Drivel.

  • Hey Kaossis,you need to open your Blind SPOT my friend,

    -first of all your language is brilliant

    -2nd you need to think with ur head

    -3th do not run away from th truht K-O

  • He's a fucking Schizzo, he know's he's a fucking joke in the Uk, that's why he ran off to the Isle of White with all the rest fo the fucking nazi Freemason peeadophile's that think they can run away from the Truth!

  • "the energetic egg shell"

    That's a good one Dave... keep them coming

    LOL

  • Slit eyes proves shit ive seen a number of people whos eyes lsit from reflections including my sister.

    Yes i belive reptilians exist i and a member of my family have seen paranormal and ufo activity.

  • Icke has slit eyes, he's one of them

  • whats with you ppl?? you type like a spammer too!!

    "CuttingThroughTheMatrix[dot]c­om" why are you hiding your link?? If you wanna appear to be a legit in your counter intelligence maybe you should work on that shit! >P

  • People need to use caution when listening to David Icke as he is a means of disinformation. To learn why, just check out Cutting Through The Matrix on the Republic Broadcasting Network at RepublicBroadcasting[dot]org or We The People Radio Network at WTPRN[dot]com and the website CuttingThroughTheMatrix[dot]co­m.

    Can you handle the truth?

  • You say he disinforms his a guy in the public eye the whole time he firmly belvies the reptilian agenda i want some proof his disinforming his not mr micheal tsrion whos a rosicrucian plus there are witneses who say reptilian humanoids exist plus you usually get people who are hostile agianst him his a loner even if he dose plagiarism he said he gets his sources from people and facts around the world and ofers them.

  • All I say is to think things through and it has been reported through reliable sources that he has used masonic hand signs/gestures. Now what purpose they were used for I can't really say as nobody knows his intention. There are many who believe the reptilian thing is a means to discredit the truth that is mixed with it, but I'm not in that camp as I have a level of understanding regarding that from my own personal study & experience. Just think for yourself & don't become a sheeple in any flock

  • You say he disinforms his a guy in the public eye the whole time he firmly belvies the reptilian agenda i want some proof his disinforming his not mr micheal tsrion whos a rosicrucian plus there are witneses who say reptilian humanoids exist plus you usually get people who are hostile agianst him his a loner even if he dose plagiarism he said he gets his sources from people and facts around the world and ofers them.

  • What does Tsarion have to do with this? That is an irrelevant point, but since you brought this up he does have an agenda that isn't for the greater good of all and the dissemination of truth. What is important is that we think for ourselves and retain our individuality, not becoming a sheeple of any flock. What is of the utmost importance is that we must work together to defeat the NWO's agenda to preserve the future of humanity!

  • You kind of contradict yourself, you say David Icke is a disinformer, but you're proud enough to put Dave Wilcox's videos in your favorites. Replacing one disinformer with another, are we?

  • I use the favorites as a means of bookmarking certain videos. If you noticed, David Icke & Michael Tsarion were in there too. This doesn't mean that I embrace their message, it just means that I consider all sources. I've even watched your Planet X videos too. It requires a lot of work & due diligence to uncover truth as it has been dispersed amongst a lot of bullshit and nobody is 100%.

    So what's your beef with David Wilcox? Is it because he has stated your Planet X won't appear in 2012?

  • LOL you're very cute :)

    No, the reason that I don't like Dave Wilcox is not because he denies planet X, it's because he's adding to the belief in 2012, when we all know that 2012 is a false date, so that when Planet X does appear A LOT sooner than that, people will panic, so his talking this stuff is majorly hurting people's safety, also he's not just a disinformer that's been handed this information to leak, he's a liar (period). I explain this in my videos.

  • So how do you know that "2012 is a false date" & just who are those in this "we all know?"?

    It seems to me from what I've seen & I have by no means spent a lot of time researching this, but the Mayan calendar deals with the cycles of human consciousness and not linear time. Thus many people have misapplied the 2012 date to some catastrophic world event, instead of a point of awakening. I think David has a similar view.

  • Yep, exactly, but what if the Mayan calendar was purposely misinterpreted??? I believe the Mayan calendar is correct down to the last second, just not the modern newager's version of it's time frame or meaning.

  • Infact it's not just his 2012 stories that are wrong, (as far as I know) every concept that he puts out is bollocks, and he knows it. He's making money off of my fellow truthseekers (AND I DON'T LIKE IT).

  • P.S I see you've got Naomi's video in your favorites, you do realise that The Shock Doctrine and David Icke's "Problem, Reaction, Solution" all show what this 2012 rubbish is about, if you watch my videos you'll understand.

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