"Further, it is not so much that reason is "ignored" but that it is at a certain point irrelevant to the ultimate ends of religion, which itself is concerned with transcending the subject object polarity"
Bullshit and double-talk. Reason is all there is. If it's not consistent and coherent it's not even an idea.
I think the argument would go that since man is not limited to ratiocination he is also not limited by its hegemonic application to reality. Further, it is not so much that reason is "ignored" but that it is at a certain point irrelevant to the ultimate ends of religion, which itself is concerned with transcending the subject object polarity--that is the unio mystica. On the ethical and social side, the proof, if one requires a proof, is that unaided reason cannot inform us concerning the Good.
What cheapens our conception of the world more? A way of thinking that attempts to understand the inner workings of the world at all levels empirically, or a static and primitive narrative whose only ultimate evidence is 'because I said so' and can be summed up in a single volume? I don't buy the 'separate spheres' argument for religion and science, if reasoning can apply in engineering and medicine, it can't just be ignored wherever it becomes inconvenient for religion.
"Further, it is not so much that reason is "ignored" but that it is at a certain point irrelevant to the ultimate ends of religion, which itself is concerned with transcending the subject object polarity"
Bullshit and double-talk. Reason is all there is. If it's not consistent and coherent it's not even an idea.
ThisMachineKillsReds 3 months ago
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Why do you say that "reason is all there is"? what is your definition of "reason"?
UhtredBambra 3 months ago
I think the argument would go that since man is not limited to ratiocination he is also not limited by its hegemonic application to reality. Further, it is not so much that reason is "ignored" but that it is at a certain point irrelevant to the ultimate ends of religion, which itself is concerned with transcending the subject object polarity--that is the unio mystica. On the ethical and social side, the proof, if one requires a proof, is that unaided reason cannot inform us concerning the Good.
UhtredBambra 7 months ago
What cheapens our conception of the world more? A way of thinking that attempts to understand the inner workings of the world at all levels empirically, or a static and primitive narrative whose only ultimate evidence is 'because I said so' and can be summed up in a single volume? I don't buy the 'separate spheres' argument for religion and science, if reasoning can apply in engineering and medicine, it can't just be ignored wherever it becomes inconvenient for religion.
Easaontas 7 months ago
Superb exposition by Dr Nasr. Many thanks..
zazamankh7 8 months ago
Thank you for this. Please upload Part 2 & 3
AbdulQadirulhaq 9 months ago