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  • Most people left or right choose to be ignorant. Good people are killed or ostracized for the truth. Even if this is only 50% true . That's 50% more than we had before. Right wingers claim all left wingers are liars. Left wingers claim all right wingers are fascist. Both have some truth . I tend to want to help those less fortunate. You can claim that's communist socialist whatever. It's not better to be greedy. Look at the results.

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  • we are conditioned to be stupid..

    why is it that the USA is lower educated than Cubans?????

    the milltary is condition to kill and not question who to kill..

    they are the privet army to execute the new world order...

    wake up ..

  • How they watch-spy-stalking-and-if  they choose they also--harassing-you or any person-trought-the-t.v.-screen­­s-Then a person wonder if they are a dubble-spy..or dubble agents-oh...what a twissted-confused-world-.Go figure!

    they look like fashiests- or something like that--to me.

    -If the sleepy-Beauty-don't wake-up-IT will be too let-This seem maybe as a joke-but all those gudjets -Survillians-cameras devices are not a jokes.

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  • we the people is such a joke, american democracy is such a joke, the federal reserve system is such a joke, all of the beloved traditions that made a once proud nation great have been turned into the republic from hell, as the gloss and glitter fade and the true monstruosity comes to light, wake the fuck up people and dont be fooled by the jesuit assassins that control the illuminati bastards and their elite secret societies, take back your country with a little knowledge, not disinformation

  • @flyinghotwing USA wants a bio on every north american even those that do not travel, somewhere down the line they wish to have you in their system they wish to know who is living on the other side of the border, don't know about the mark of the beast i do know that USA feels we want their jobs & by their land, they are confused as people & as those that govern them, if we allow our defense/ministers/parliament to be devoured by Pent a Gone/ US politicians then we as citizens have lost our Govt

  • @Strewyou citizens have long lost their government, the hoax of democracy is hypocricy, since circa 1900, the puppets placed in presidents shoes pull the strings of the bankster puppetmasters,guided by the golden rule of profit, for war and genocide and more corporate money, to hold up the international rotchshilds thru morgan and rockefeller flunkies, all the way to the present puppets that pledge change but change of the very worst version of the NWO

  • @flyinghotwing civilians of the world, non-Govt people, join forces against agents that get your way in regards to freedom of movement, Human communication, interaction by having an open market. if human interaction has been monopolized due to defense related projects around the world to keep people in poor conditions, it makes no sense. why the ones in power would chose to lose out on volume of people free to move around on the planet, subjected by anyone in our Governments - rebel & retaliate

  • RFID CHIP IS MARK OF THE BEAST

  • its not just a card you dimwit, connect all the other dots with your obama puppet and see where kissinger is taking this country w the whole host of other one world theives

  • ggggg

  • So far, so good. I've not been forced to carry a national ID card, and I have no RFID chip implanted in any part of my body. Y2K all over again... *sigh*

  • i beleive plenty of revenue can be earned from other forms of tax other than the income tax. lets go back to tarrifs and capital gins tax and do away w/ personal property taxes. sound money backed by commodities rather than a system of credit backed by the income tax. tie the hands of federal gov. and give it back to "we the people".

  • I don't have to prove to ANY OF them ASSHOLES that I am who the fuck I say I am! If they have any problem knowing who the fuck I am, then why is it so easy to figure out who I am if I'm late paying my taxes?! EXCUSE ME BUT YOU ASSHOLES WORK FOR THE PEOPLE! DO YOU REMEMBER THAT!?

  • No. The government (Federal Govt.) has only 3 ways of financing its projects and funding its branches. 1.) U.S. Treasury Securities, 2.) Federal Income Tax, 3.) Print more Fiat Money. Property taxes go to State & Local/Municipal governments. State & Local/Municipal governments do not fund & budget for the branches of the military - those are managed by the Federal Government.

  • The problem with taxes is not that we must pay them... We simply must - else our Government will not be able to fund national (and international) projects. The problem is what the government does with the tax revenue it collects from us. Don't hate the money, hate the product that you get (or don't get) in return. Taxes are the ambulances that transport us to the hospital, the police who protect us, and the firemen who rescue us - among many other non-municipal things, of course!

  • local property taxes pay for those things, not the federal income tax. the corporate tax (which is illegal) collected is enough to pay for the national military.

  • Watch the movie & you'll find that the only thing the Federal Income tax pays for is the interest on the huge loan we owe for the fiat currency the Federal Reserve prints out of thin air & "lends" us. Vote 4 RON PAUL in Nov 08! He officially stepped down but there's a HUGE movement to write him in via ABSENTEE BALLOT. He plans to shut down the Federal Reserve & abolish Fed Income Tax. campaignforlibertyDOTcom critcalmassnowDOTbiz

    March on DC 7/12/08! revolutionmarchDOTcom freedomtour08DOTcom

  • Why are most economists Libertarian?

  • What statistic suggests they are? I'm rather conservative, and favor Laissez-faire, but I'm not at all "on track" with neo-conservatism which is a more accurate description of modern day American conservatism. I'm a financial analyst, which goes hand in hand with economics. My fellow comrades are extremely diverse in their political & socioeconomic views. Most of my comrades do feel that libertarian methodologies won't achieve libertarian results, as do I.

  • whoiga,

    "I'm tired of seeing people who just don't like paying taxes"

    Invest in blindfolds, motherfucker! =)

  • You obviously didn't see it. The Federal Bank is privately owned and they have produced money the fiat as you say that isn't back by anything it is paper. Monopoly money. They have admitted this fraud time and time again and you are either too dumb to understand or too deaf to listen. Yes you pay taxes but pay real taxes not fake ones that you don't have to pay but if you don't you will get prosecuted under no evidence of your wrong doing. Wake up child you are being scammed.

  • It's independent, but not private.

    As for taxes, go read the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution that you're walking all over:

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

    Sure, nobody "enjoys" taxes, but they're no scam. They're somewhat of a price for citizenship, no matter what country you're living in.

  • That part you just quoted wasn't ratified, but was enforced. THAT'S the issue here.

  • No, it was ratified. If you thoroughly research it, you will find that the claims of the ratification being illegitimate aren't at all true, and are based on silly nitpickings.

  • duh we have 2 pay taxs but not Fed. tax just state taxes says it right in that Amendment

  • No, it doesn't. Read the amendment. Besides, you shouldn't be worried about paying taxes, rather about how they are being spent, and whether or not Adam Smith's 4 Maxims of a Good Tax Policy are adhered to.

  • i guess thats true... but im taking the Amendment literal word for word

  • No, you don't seem to be. You seem to be distorting the "without apportionment among the several States" and "without regard to any census or enumeration" statements to mean something outside of their literal meaning.

  • we got the same shit in germany overhere... they use the 9/11-fake for creating a system of total controlling and observating of all people, even worse than in the ex-socialist-part of germany...they even accept cia-agends kidnapping innocent people without any evidences and putting them into illegal prisons all around in europe...

  • this film is a real sleep killer!

  • the card would make no difference to the current situation huh? well how about this....I don't use credit cards. I use cash and cash only for this very reason. (no debit cards either) I have zero debt and I would prefer to keep my financial matters out of the hands of the government. Now does it make a difference?  Your drivers license is your ID card. Why do you need a "national" ID card? You are going to be giving up your freedom and your liberty and you don't even see it.

  • Well, if you keep your money in the bank, even a commercial bank, it is still the government's responsibility, as your deposits are backed by the FDIC and your bank is regulated by the Federal Reserve central bank.

    America has some problems but we're not on the brink of fascism just yet. We have to believe it's repairable - else we'll be "letting" it slip away. World problems fall on the shoulders of "people", not political systems and economics. Good people are what is needed.

  • President a puppet,Bildergergs run everything(rockafellers)

  • This guys voice is ridculously gay, not effective at all, shoulda hired James Earl Jones

  • YUP

  • If you want to take back America, check out -- FreeStateProject*org --

  • A national ID card wouldn't bother me at all, since driver's licenses serve this purpose already.

  • "A national ID card wouldn't bother me at all, since driver's licenses serve this purpose already." --

    Another example of how if you turn up the heat little by little, the frog won't jump out of the cooking pot.

    Drivers licences are STATE ID cards. They aren't put into a national database and aren't used for national ID purposes like the Real ID will. They also don't have a finger print or retinal scan like the Real ID will.

  • Is it bad that the government will know who you are? Why do you care if they have an easy way to match your physical person to the person on file? I wouldn't care if they would have my fingerprint, iris, retina, etc. information either, since these are simply more ways to identify me. And do you really think that the state governments are more righteous than the national one?

  • "And do you really think that the state governments are more righteous than the national one?" --

    No, both use force (coercion) to get what they want. But the national gov't is further removed from the people, and more powerful (ceteris paribus, more powerful always means more corrupt).

    I assume you would also be for the gov't implanting an RFID chip in your body so they could track your movements??

    Why does gov't need to know who you are?

  • No, I wouldn't be for obligatory implants, especially ones that track movement, because this is an invasion of privacy. National ID cards, on the other hand, simply verify your identity. This information isn't an invasion of privacy because it is how people can identify you. Thus, retina scans, etc. are no different than pictures of one's face.

    The government, as well as businesses, need to be able to identify you so that they can link the physical person to the person on file. Need I repeat?

  • Government is control. Government only identifies people to control them. This is just another extension of government control

    Control is the opposite of liberty

  • "No, I wouldn't be for obligatory implants... because this is an invasion of privacy" --

    Why not? Using your logic, if you're not doing anything wrong, why not let big brother do whatever it wants. You trust the gov't apparently (even though you wouldn't trust an individual...which is funny since the gov't is simply a bunch of individuals).

    Why don't you Google secret laptops lost and come back and tell me you trust the gov't to have all your personal info in one big databse.

  • "The government, as well as businesses, need to be able to identify you so that they can link the physical person to the person on file."

    Why do you need to be linked to a "file" and why the HELL does a government need a file on the average citizen?

    And when do businesses supposedly need to "know who I am?" I conduct my business just fine without a national ID card.

    Remember, government is the opposite of liberty. More gov't = less liberty, less gov't = more liberty

  • The government needs files for average citizens because each citizen has obligations: they must obey laws... and pay taxes. And businesses need to identify you for financial transactions, to make sure that the physical person in front of them is the person who owns the money. Do you oppose showing your driver's license to verify a check? And if you think that less government means more liberty, then are you an anarchist? Then you can kill everybody without breaking a single law.

  • interesting argument about the fingerprints and retinal scans being like taking pictures.. just one thing tho.. if you are linked to a file, and you are identified everywhere you go by purchase: buy gas, food, etc.. then you are being tracked right? i mean, right now pictures are ok.. but at what point can the saturation of public space with interlinked cameras follow your face as you move through the city? just some thoughts.

  • When you purchase things with your credit or debit card, someone already knows exactly where you are. Since cash will still be around and you won't need the card all purchases, the addition of a national ID card would make no difference to the current situation.

  • why do you think they are destroying the dollar?

    They want a cashless system so they can own us.

    I refuse to show anyone my papers as in Nazi Germany.

  • You won't have to show anyone your papers. The chip in your arm will take care of that.

  • somebody assasinate Bush plz

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM NEOCON'S!

  • Lets say we didn't have to pay income taxes... it would probably cost thousands of dollars for a loaf of bread. Inflation would get so high the dollar would have no value. However, our taxes need to be put to better use. That is a reason to fight.

  • The documentary explains how not a single CENT of our income tax pays for ANY services we thought they did. Every penny simply pays the interest on loans that our government has from the Federal Reserve, which is not 'Federal' at all, but private banks.

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA!

  • The national ID card comment...Most countries require you to carry some form of ID. The way they tied it to Nazi's...

    It's like saying, "What if you found out your bakery served lemonaide, just like Nazi Germany?"

  • I think what they ment was that we are clearly heading there. No freedom, being monitor every inch of the way. National ID would have all your information. And the tracting devices that will be inserted into you and your kids. If that's not slavery, I don't know what is...

  • That's my point. Just b/c we happen to share some things in common with the Nazi's, whether it's having to carry ID or having bakeries serve lemonaide, does not mean we're also becoming like them.

    I don't agree with tracking devices, but how do you tie that in with slavery?

  • Shinjo82. You may agree with this, but the problem is that there was a document published almost 200 years ago called the CONSTIUTION that does disagree with this. Sorry your opinion loses to this sacred document!

  • Hmm...I don't remember the constitution saying anything specifically about ID cards. Can you explain a bit further?

  • " I don't remember the constitution saying anything specifically about ID cards." --

    Something doesn't have to be mentioned in the Constitution to be unconstitutional.

    IN FACT, if it ISN'T mentioned in the Constitution, it IS unconstitutional for the feds to do it, because they're only allowed to do what the Constitution SPECIFICALLY allows. The bill of rights simply REITERATES SOME of the things that gov't can't f*** with

  • Anyone who has ever taken a macroeconomics course will understand how fiscal and monetary policies work. The Central bank isn't free to print money. Germany (after WW1) and Argentina tried to do that; they both went into hyperinflation. They control the money supply to prevent recessions and booms. The government does the same thing through fiscal policy (government spending and/or taxes).

  • "Anyone who has ever taken a macroeconomics course will understand how fiscal and monetary policies work. The Central bank isn't free to print money." --

    Yes, they are. There is no check on how much they print. When there is deficit spending, the deficit must be made up by printing more money, either now or in the future. And yes, it leads to inflation (which is simply an alternate and more destructive way to tax)

  • I think the big think people have to worry about is the gov't taking away guns. After that, we ARE helpless.

  • GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!

  • I'll NEVER see America's freedom burn down to fascism, and NEVER will!

    LONG LIVE LIBERTY!

  • visit www pumpitout com /september0806 html for full version. BYOP (bring your own punctuation =P)

    were gonna see a lot of anti-propaganda on this one..

  • visit www pumpitout com and /september0806.html for full version.

    were gonna see a lot of anti-propaganda on this one...

  • These are not liberals, they are the same wingnut anti-governement groups who bombed the federal buiding in Kansas City.

    Dig around on these websites, and you quickly find out these guys are anti-semetic lunatics, who rant about freemasons and "the Jews own the Federal Reserve".

  • Have you seen the full video? And if so, how can you be so ignorant?

  • We are in the End Times. By 2008, we will be forced to get The Mark of the Beast. Repent and be ready.

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