The student has an awful voice. It is the run-of-the-mill shrill soprano sound. Just because you can produce a soprano sound, it doesn't mean the voice that comes out is pleasing or pleasant.
My dear commentators: Any one who has sung at the level of Tebaldi is capable of giving advise. Perhaps not the right one for everyone, but when you have made a carrier like her, you have mastered, at least YOUR technique. Nobody is GOD in this art. Nor even Kraus (oops). Every voice has its limitations. The technique is how to deal with them.
first of all - do not speak ill of the dead. may they both rest in peace.
Callas and Tebaldi were completely different in character and style. they were both divas of a very high order.
What i find wonderful is how much both of them loved their art and their profession, and how keen they were to transmit and pass on to the young singers the wisdom and experience they had gathered in life. masterclasses are crucial to an art like opera which is at its best a repository of collective wisdom.
@theinkbrain I totally agree. It's pointless to compare such different singers, and besides, it's much more interesting to read praise or criticism of a singer based on what he or she actually does, NOT on what someone else does.
@theinkbrain Thank you. I've been an admirer of Callas for many years and only recently did I come to realise that Tebaldi is also, in a very different way, a unique artist that I get a lot of pleasure from listening to. They are both great and they both have flaws, just as can be said of other leading divas of the period, for instance Sutherland, Price, Nilsson, Schwarzkopf etc. But I think it's more fair to judge each of them in their own right, not as compared to someone else.
WHO WAS NOT CALLAS...HA,HA..YOU MUST BE JOKEN...LA CALLAS WAS AND WILL BE THE GREATEST IN ALL RELATED WITH OPERA....ALL THE REST ARE APPRENTICES !!!!!
tebaldi has had too many facelifts here and it has done something to her humanity!
or perhaps she was always a witch! i can't recall another great diva being so nasty--or nasty at all--in for a master class, epsecialy knowing--as here--there is a cameral rolling!
see horne, nillsson, callas, schwazkopf, freni, scotto, go out of their way to be "kind" to the young students they know are being asked to sing for the likes of them.
Renata Tebaldi was the one and only disaster of vocal technique in the history of the Opera. There was not another singer who became so succesful with that nightmare of a technique. She was the Madonna of Opera - an endless array of dreadful intonation, lack of any trills or fioritura (cut off the score), all notes above B5 were the same flat scream. Toscanini opened to her the doors of La Scala for her so soon she never learnt how to sing lol
@LohengrinT The poor girl was singing for the greatest technical singer of the 20th century (who wasn't Callas). It's a wonder that the pupil could sing at all.
her timbre and vibrato is just flat out aweful!! She sings opera the way I would sing it :/ but its because ive never had vocal training ... ever... and this girl is in a master class?!?
It is all politics. Opera and classical singing in America alawys has been and there are few to no teachers in the U.S. of the Garcia-Marchesi school of singing which is the only correct school and where all the really great singers came from idealogically or literally. When opera became vogue in the U.S., hacks started crawling out of holes in the walls like termites because becoming an opera singer might be their chance to get on a stage in front of an audience...God help us all!
How does a singer like this end up having a master class with someone like the great Tebaldi???? I've seen a lot of of these clips with singers who sound like total beginners who are having classes with the likes of Tebaldi, more recently with Domingo, Cabballe etc etc! Do they bribe their way in?
This young woman is looking back on this day and is likely thankful for it. If I were to hear her today, she would be a better singer because of the experience. Every classical singer starts here. And, believe it or not, it's not hard to forget this or that technical element when you're nervous.
Just wanting to emphasise that the student is just that a ''student'' with raw talent. .Went shrill due to singing w/o support. Tebaldi itisnt another nice voice, one of the greatest voices in the last century. Be nice.
RT does point out the lack of breath under this instrument. Young singers pay attention! Without this you will get a shrill tone & will NEVER progress.
My impression is the contrary, only from seeing her teaching for a few minutes in her dominant and dismissive way, there is no encouragement for the student to be found but negativity. From my experience, a good teacher doesn't go on talking about what isn't working (this morning), unless he can show the student how to improve on it. Even mocking the student and saying "who are you afraid?!" is some of the those ridiculous things I have seen and experienced many times. Pity
@Joeleole It's a good thing your opinions about the pupil dont matter. If Tebaldi was in front of me...id be too nervous to sing open throat too. The color tone wasnt ugly, it seems shrill because its not open. If your opinion mattered -- I doubt you"d be posting it on youtube baby.
@idigvivaldi If you were to sing for Ms Tebaldi and were to sing as badly as this woman did, I would humbly suggest you get off the stage and stop wasting hers and everyone's time...
@idigvivaldi If you were to sing for Ms Tebaldi and were to sing as badly as this woman did, I would humbly suggest you get off the stage and stop wasting hers and everyone else's time... baby.
@Joeleole I dont sing, just fifty cent and 2pac in the shower. Maybe thats why I can identify a coloratura soprano, going shrill in front of one of the worlds greatest lyric sopranos of the last century. Sad isn't it?
@joeleole Either you are a fallen star w/no functional knowledge of vocal pedagogy or mean spirited fan with no knowledge. Or worse are a teacher w/o lacks the heart, passion and temperament to help nurture and refine raw , young talent? i will see you in hell -- you and your little eggrolls.
I didn't say that one was a bad technician. I was just saying that I preferred Callas. In fact, you supported exactly what I said with your third sentence. I think you misunderstood my comment. I love both Callas and Tebaldi and hold them in the highest regard as technicians artists (which is basically what I said). Again, I am sorry if there has been a misunderstanding: I am in agreement that they are both great artists.
does exist only this small piece of her masterclasses? i want to see more, how she worked with the pupils!! and i hope there were better ones, because this girl is just ridiculous!how did she manage to enter the conservatiore?! this in a masterclass!! it's a wonder that renata didn't escape after the first note!
Poor girl was nervous... it's impossible to have such a small and bumpy voice without suffering from major nerves. (I wouldn't blame her if she was nervous... after all, she was singing for Tebaldi).
La Tebaldi seems and looks like Lucille Ball authoritative Mame.Renata still looked beautiful around 70, this is from 1992 around, one notice she was a woman of strong temper.She teaches well to the pupil
The student has an awful voice. It is the run-of-the-mill shrill soprano sound. Just because you can produce a soprano sound, it doesn't mean the voice that comes out is pleasing or pleasant.
calaftheeast 1 month ago
My dear commentators: Any one who has sung at the level of Tebaldi is capable of giving advise. Perhaps not the right one for everyone, but when you have made a carrier like her, you have mastered, at least YOUR technique. Nobody is GOD in this art. Nor even Kraus (oops). Every voice has its limitations. The technique is how to deal with them.
pepeelsordo 3 months ago
first of all - do not speak ill of the dead. may they both rest in peace.
Callas and Tebaldi were completely different in character and style. they were both divas of a very high order.
What i find wonderful is how much both of them loved their art and their profession, and how keen they were to transmit and pass on to the young singers the wisdom and experience they had gathered in life. masterclasses are crucial to an art like opera which is at its best a repository of collective wisdom.
theinkbrain 3 months ago
@theinkbrain I totally agree. It's pointless to compare such different singers, and besides, it's much more interesting to read praise or criticism of a singer based on what he or she actually does, NOT on what someone else does.
AnnaBariacchis 3 months ago
@AnnaBariacchis
Thank you!
It is good to hear a sane voice - I mean yours - amongst so much madness.
theinkbrain 3 months ago
@theinkbrain Thank you. I've been an admirer of Callas for many years and only recently did I come to realise that Tebaldi is also, in a very different way, a unique artist that I get a lot of pleasure from listening to. They are both great and they both have flaws, just as can be said of other leading divas of the period, for instance Sutherland, Price, Nilsson, Schwarzkopf etc. But I think it's more fair to judge each of them in their own right, not as compared to someone else.
MadonnaImperia 3 months ago
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her advice should be, "choose another career"
skitzo429 4 months ago
WHO WAS NOT CALLAS...HA,HA..YOU MUST BE JOKEN...LA CALLAS WAS AND WILL BE THE GREATEST IN ALL RELATED WITH OPERA....ALL THE REST ARE APPRENTICES !!!!!
simisimi9 5 months ago 17
HAHA...TEBALDI SHOULD HAVE TAKEN LESSONS....GIVING THEM ??? HAHA,HA
simisimi9 5 months ago 18
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She wasn't being nasty or a bitch. That girl needed help!! She was being straight with her and constructively blunt!!!
aeaw10 10 months ago
tebaldi has had too many facelifts here and it has done something to her humanity!
or perhaps she was always a witch! i can't recall another great diva being so nasty--or nasty at all--in for a master class, epsecialy knowing--as here--there is a cameral rolling!
see horne, nillsson, callas, schwazkopf, freni, scotto, go out of their way to be "kind" to the young students they know are being asked to sing for the likes of them.
mmbriggs 1 year ago 13
@mmbriggs
Renata Tebaldi was the one and only disaster of vocal technique in the history of the Opera. There was not another singer who became so succesful with that nightmare of a technique. She was the Madonna of Opera - an endless array of dreadful intonation, lack of any trills or fioritura (cut off the score), all notes above B5 were the same flat scream. Toscanini opened to her the doors of La Scala for her so soon she never learnt how to sing lol
LohengrinT 9 months ago 10
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@LohengrinT The poor girl was singing for the greatest technical singer of the 20th century (who wasn't Callas). It's a wonder that the pupil could sing at all.
foratti 6 months ago
@LohengrinT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU....HOW CAN SHE CALLED A SINGER?????
simisimi9 5 months ago
her timbre and vibrato is just flat out aweful!! She sings opera the way I would sing it :/ but its because ive never had vocal training ... ever... and this girl is in a master class?!?
ademonprotectsher 1 year ago 4
Grandmommy! I wonder if Katerina has watched this?
gavinfarkas 1 year ago
@WiseMonkey888 you knew her personally did you?
Joeleole 1 year ago
Elle a du boulot la petite dame...l
tetrazzini 1 year ago
It is all politics. Opera and classical singing in America alawys has been and there are few to no teachers in the U.S. of the Garcia-Marchesi school of singing which is the only correct school and where all the really great singers came from idealogically or literally. When opera became vogue in the U.S., hacks started crawling out of holes in the walls like termites because becoming an opera singer might be their chance to get on a stage in front of an audience...God help us all!
Lauritz1 1 year ago 2
How did this girl end up getting this master's time?
vocalpianist 1 year ago
@vocalpianist how indeed!
rodriguezjo 1 year ago
How does a singer like this end up having a master class with someone like the great Tebaldi???? I've seen a lot of of these clips with singers who sound like total beginners who are having classes with the likes of Tebaldi, more recently with Domingo, Cabballe etc etc! Do they bribe their way in?
Baritorio 1 year ago
This young woman is looking back on this day and is likely thankful for it. If I were to hear her today, she would be a better singer because of the experience. Every classical singer starts here. And, believe it or not, it's not hard to forget this or that technical element when you're nervous.
salphonso 1 year ago
Just wanting to emphasise that the student is just that a ''student'' with raw talent. .Went shrill due to singing w/o support. Tebaldi itisnt another nice voice, one of the greatest voices in the last century. Be nice.
idigvivaldi 1 year ago
haha that is a BAD soprano
skitzo429 1 year ago
"Why are you afraid? What for? Something doesn't work in your stomach today? Eh? Are you tired?" lol
ElliePearl 2 years ago
you are all so mean, not everyone is as perfect as I am ;-)
gadella1985 2 years ago
god this girl is really horrifying! I realised that she's trying to sing 'Dove sono' not before 1:08...
Poor maestra...
chepurociel620 2 years ago
Renata Tebaldi i mean
gharusa 2 years ago
she had a face lift and a nose job!!!!
gharusa 2 years ago
Was there any selection before hand?
zizeus 2 years ago
Oh...my...O_O
CatalinaDM56 2 years ago
¡¡¡Renata!!!she was so elegant.
Schollistico 2 years ago
RT does point out the lack of breath under this instrument. Young singers pay attention! Without this you will get a shrill tone & will NEVER progress.
Lovelytenor1 2 years ago 2
This shrill little voice is typical of what music schools turn out these days.
Operaddict 2 years ago
this aria was SO inappropiate for the singer!!!!!!!!!!!
tigerpirate71 2 years ago
Sorry for Maestra,she got a Female duck in her MasterClass
BeniaminoGigli1985 2 years ago
Mon Dieu, c'est quoi cette voix ???? C'est Foster-Jenkins à la maternelle ??????
mariasarda 2 years ago 4
such a bright soubrette.....only so much of that stuff i can handle
Operaandchant90 2 years ago 2
LMFAO!!!
gibraltarrr 2 years ago 2
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DanRobSo 3 years ago
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Very sad anecdote, from where did you got it?
Dondinin 3 years ago
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My impression is the contrary, only from seeing her teaching for a few minutes in her dominant and dismissive way, there is no encouragement for the student to be found but negativity. From my experience, a good teacher doesn't go on talking about what isn't working (this morning), unless he can show the student how to improve on it. Even mocking the student and saying "who are you afraid?!" is some of the those ridiculous things I have seen and experienced many times. Pity
Pollione88 2 years ago
I think I would've cried if I was in her master class...
mattro1000 3 years ago
it was good for a girl to take a masterclass, then she would know how she could improve.
sopranoms 3 years ago
HAHA... ok, Tebaldi or no Tebaldi-- there is no excuse for sounding that bad. xD LOL.
maryjivinjane 3 years ago 4
Tebaldi said it right there at 33: "Come on, you are afraid."
Brava!
phantom4087 3 years ago 4
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Wow...she's really bad...crap even....
Joeleole 3 years ago 8
@Joeleole It's a good thing your opinions about the pupil dont matter. If Tebaldi was in front of me...id be too nervous to sing open throat too. The color tone wasnt ugly, it seems shrill because its not open. If your opinion mattered -- I doubt you"d be posting it on youtube baby.
idigvivaldi 1 year ago
@idigvivaldi If you were to sing for Ms Tebaldi and were to sing as badly as this woman did, I would humbly suggest you get off the stage and stop wasting hers and everyone's time...
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@idigvivaldi If you were to sing for Ms Tebaldi and were to sing as badly as this woman did, I would humbly suggest you get off the stage and stop wasting hers and everyone else's time... baby.
Joeleole 1 year ago
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@Joeleole I dont sing, just fifty cent and 2pac in the shower. Maybe thats why I can identify a coloratura soprano, going shrill in front of one of the worlds greatest lyric sopranos of the last century. Sad isn't it?
idigvivaldi 1 year ago
@joeleole Either you are a fallen star w/no functional knowledge of vocal pedagogy or mean spirited fan with no knowledge. Or worse are a teacher w/o lacks the heart, passion and temperament to help nurture and refine raw , young talent? i will see you in hell -- you and your little eggrolls.
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The poor girl was singing for the greatest technical singer of the 20th century (who wasn't Callas). It's a wonder that the pupil could sing at all.
phantom4087 3 years ago 6
hahaha! You don't know shit! THEY WERE BOTH GREAT TECHNICIANS! What an idiot you are...
operaman901 3 years ago
I didn't say that one was a bad technician. I was just saying that I preferred Callas. In fact, you supported exactly what I said with your third sentence. I think you misunderstood my comment. I love both Callas and Tebaldi and hold them in the highest regard as technicians artists (which is basically what I said). Again, I am sorry if there has been a misunderstanding: I am in agreement that they are both great artists.
phantom4087 3 years ago
does exist only this small piece of her masterclasses? i want to see more, how she worked with the pupils!! and i hope there were better ones, because this girl is just ridiculous!how did she manage to enter the conservatiore?! this in a masterclass!! it's a wonder that renata didn't escape after the first note!
zafireh 3 years ago 4
Can anyone translate this masterclass into english please-such a great fan of Tebaldi
dancetaeyerdaddy 3 years ago
Tebaldi si so amazing. A little humming bird has more voice than this poor girl. Maybe she was really nervous
gransasso101 3 years ago 4
nervousness! with tebaldi
nlsnbebang 3 years ago 2
this is the first time I'm watching Tebaldi coaching. beautiful, thanks for uploading
Orfeus80 3 years ago
Poor girl was nervous... it's impossible to have such a small and bumpy voice without suffering from major nerves. (I wouldn't blame her if she was nervous... after all, she was singing for Tebaldi).
VivaMariaCallas 3 years ago 4
La Tebaldi seems and looks like Lucille Ball authoritative Mame.Renata still looked beautiful around 70, this is from 1992 around, one notice she was a woman of strong temper.She teaches well to the pupil
fleville 3 years ago
Lucille Ball? How silly.
Andante735 3 years ago
Gosh what class these older singers had. What must have Tebaldi tought when she was given this poor girl to work with.
mrrk 3 years ago 2