i hope you do, it would be great to see that the whole us armforces bycott, they took an oath to defend the country the USA but their purpose in afghan is not defending, so what is it....
This is a good sign. When a lost guy at the start of the day comes back home in the evening dont call him a lost guy. Similar condition is being faced by Indian soldiers in illegally occupied Kashmir. During his training a soldier is given an initiative to fight. But when the soldier himself discovers that its not a war but just killing innocent people starving for food & other necessities of life & feels guilty it means hes coming to the right path & getting a peace of mind the actual wealth.
@yahoovisitor Until Tony Blair publicly stated the the killing of ten thousand innocent Iraqi citizens would be a price worth paying, I had never dreamt that a British Prime Minister could be aligned so closely with Adolf Hitler. I was already well aware that politicians had things to hide, but this insane, infantile act of sabre rattling demonstrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that our leaders are completely out of touch with reality. Blair's genocide proposal constituted a war crime.
@clemstevenson I am happy to hear that you finally got the light of distinguishing between true & false & hope that you are not thrown into darkness once again.
@yahoovisitor That happened in 2003, when 53% of the adult UK populous were against the Iraq war. I also hate BP. BP is about greed. In 1982, it was rumoured that the Falklands area was rich in oil, but now we know for sure that oil was the real reason for the battle. The Iraq war was for oil, and it has been said that the Afghanistan conflict relates to gas pipelines.
@clemstevenson Fuel is becoming a hot issue globally. But killing innocent people for it is not justified in any sense, or in any global law. Its time when people like you & me are communicating with one another & we must accept this world as global village. Instead of imposing war on poor countries the global issues must be solved by joint meetings, new advancements in science & mutual trade agreements. US owes billions of $ to Iraq for the crude oil it has consumed but killing doesn't pay it.
@yahoovisitor I suspect, and I must stress that I have strong reasons to suspect, that these energy problems have already been solved. However, I don't know whether the 1979 Los Alamos incident, in particular, is true. But I would suggest that, in a very real financial sense, those answers are entirely inconvenient to the hierarchy. It's the same scenario as the drug companies curing the common cold.
@clemstevenson I appreciate your knowhow. The stage comes when US wants to conquer space & has destroyed billions of $ in trying to design a space missile. China attained that target in 2007. Man's ego to conquer storm of time & space is not letting US sit calm. 9/11 the recent hypocrisy has lots of videos on youtube.com unveiling the actual facts behind this disaster. But my salute to you & your fellow soldiers to have distinguished between true & false & pray for all of you to remain in light
@yahoovisitor I am not, and have never been a soldier. I am a British civilian, but I feel very sorry for those who have been dragged into conflicts, have been told that they were fighting for freedom. This is nothing new. The Christmas Armistice of 1914 was a case that should be remembered. WWI was so utterly pointless that the authorities on either side had to create fearful myths about the opposing armies.
@yahoovisitor There is no way that they can fool me again. And, FYI, the 7-7 attacks on London followed the same principle as 9-11. Confusion tactics were used on 9-11, in the sense that a "tower attack by plane" scenario was being practised at the very same time as the real attack. On 7-7, a private security firm was practising for a terrorist attack on London underground at the very same time as the actual attack. Just thought you'd like to know.
@clemstevenson Thanks for the quick reply. The way US economy stands destroyed & US after the world destruction trying to rebuild its economy but going towards worse destruction & instability is not hidden from anyone. Mid Term elections are scheduled to take place very soon. Let's see how many US citizens are with destruction policies & how many want global peace. Price of property has halved in US with inflation bankruptcy & unemployment making lives harder. Global peace is the only remedy.
@yahoovisitor This problem was known to Ike Eisenhower, all those years ago. He knew that the US economy was too deeply tied-in with military development costs that were spiralling out of control. As financing military ventures does not demand subsequent profitability you end up with deficits running into trillions of dollars. It is claimed that financial records of this deficit were destroyed in the 9-11 Pentagon strike (nine years ago, today).
@clemstevenson But destroying records doesn't hide the facts just like if I try to destroy my notes of what I've studied I certainly fail in the exams.
@yahoovisitor Firstly, I did say that the destruction of the financial records was a claim, rather than assert it to be a fact. Secondly, I live thousands of miles away, thus I can only quote that the Pentagon images I was shown did not show any wreckage of a plane crash. But these images flashed by me on the TV screen. In actuality, this mysterious missing plane anomaly was picked up by a Frenchman.
@clemstevenson My friend you can very well see the destroyed US economy going from worse to worst with increasing no/rate of taxes thus leading to bankruptcy unemployment devaluation of property & fake inflation being caused daily making lives harder. But now that you have a clear picture of facts you mustn't be misguided any more for so called war actually the worst type of terrorism being exercised on the earth.
@yahoovisitor War can be defined a form of organised terrorism. When the technology of war made it possible to terrorise civilian populations, those responsible for the wars did just that. Crush the will of those who cannot fight back. This cowardly tactic had limited effect in WWI, but, with improved aircraft technology, it was widely employed in later decades.
@clemstevenson I am also trying to convey the same message. USA is at its best to attain space missile technology but hasn't succeeded so far in spite of burning billions of $. Its just trying to rule the world uninterrupted & this ego has brought this situation of destroyed economy with annual deficit in trillions of $,
@yahoovisitor Yes, I am also aware of this. The very fact that the US government is trying to rule the world through space weapons is also damaging the character of the American people. Let me put it another way: whenever there is an international conflict, entire countries are blamed. It's like blaming the whole of Iraq for the misdeeds of the former dictatorship.
@clemstevenson But my friend the stage of blaming is now over as far as I think. As every thing so far declared or made a ground for global destruction (still in process) is just as clear as the new days arising sun. Or the way we can hide our follies in night's darkness may not be so easy in the daylight. Similarly destroying natural resources on the globe in trying to enforce rule is bringing hard times.War or killing innocent persons is not the remedy to justify this destruction by any angle.
@yahoovisitor I wish that there was an amicable, simple, answer to all of the destructive negativity. But what I am seeing implies a readiness to fulfil insane prophecies that could otherwise be avoided. Right at the moment, I am receiving spam emails from a number of people with incompatible, conflicting, negative ideologies. These range from anti-Semitic hate literature, to ultra-racist KKK-style Christian fascists, to a Jewish cleric calling for the wholesale destruction of America.
@clemstevenson Now that facts & figures are before you I don't think & hope that you can be misguided for any global destruction program in the days to come.
@yahoovisitor No, my friend, there is no possibility that I can get dragged into any crazy scheme. I am an individual. Instead, my concern is for those who have been dis-informed/misinformed, are easily led, or even brainwashed. Some people simply want to believe that governments would tell them the truth. But even my 91-year-old mother-in-law, who was a member of the RAF's observer corps in WWII (think this is the correct title), has come to realise that governments are not trustworthy.
@yahoovisitor As I only have 500 characters per posting, I will split this post into two parts. To tell you the truth, I have never been able to function as part of a group, or club. I tend to formulate my own opinions, and/or have other interests beyond that group, or club. A similar thing happened during the days after 9-11. At that time, I had absolutely no info on any inside deception, but felt that the notion of terrorist attacks was too unbelievable for words.
@yahoovisitor Part two: Arguably, on September 11, 2001, the USA had the most powerful air force in the world. My question at that time was where the hell was the U.S. air force on 9-11? Through emails, in the days after 9-11, I got into angry arguments with American citizens. I told them to wake up, and they felt insulted by that. How the hell could a bunch of crazy terrorists fly sub-sonic passenger jets hundreds of miles, without a single challenge from supersonic fighters?
@clemstevenson This is a topic which may take centuries to distinguish between right & wrong. Facts on it have so much been mixed up. You may simply watch the videos on youtube.com & decide whether it was a wise or a barbaric step.
@yahoovisitor You've hit the nail right on the head. As the 9-11 events occurred in populated areas, the only way to jam the unwanted reports was to insert false testimony. Secondly, it was essential to confiscate all un-doctored videotape evidence from the area around the Pentagon. This means that nobody outside the affected areas can be certain as to whether they were hearing the truth, or whether they were being deceived.
@yahoovisitor Historically, disinformation was widely employed during WWII, on all levels. Indeed, supplying the German army with false intelligence data proved essential for the success of the D-Day landings. As there is a clear precedent for the use false intelligence data, I would suggest that 2001 intelligence reports of an impending terrorist attack on the USA, supplied to no-less-than 17 foreign agencies, might also have been bogus.
@yahoovisitor A few years back, my late brother-in-law (who died in an accident in Portugal) was assigned to a job in Moscow. He was warned not to speak English in the streets of Moscow, in case he was misidentified as being an American. If he was misidentified, he faced the possibility of being beaten up. You can't realistically expect Russians, who speak an entirely different language, to recognise the difference.
@yahoovisitor Other reports from the USA do suggest a very severe recession. Currently, I am not aware of a UK recession of anything like that severity. It is also difficult for me to assess the situation here, given my own circumstances. In my case, the jobs that I am experienced in simply don't exist any more. However, I was able to overcome that impossible hurdle by becoming a carer for my disabled wife.
@yahoovisitor Some time ago, I was given a copy of '911-In Plane Site' (the director's cut), by an ex-American friend who was actually born in California. He, too. was angered by the deceit involved. The video had been available for download on the internet, but the file was of poor resolution. I showed that DVD to another friend, who was deeply angered by the sheer depth of the political deceit. Please note that this DVD was not rated, and could be copied freely.
@yahoovisitor Economics: Believe it-or-not, my personal problem (here in the UK) is the same problem that has locked Cuba into the 1950s. Cuban Marxist political dogma has no place in the 21st century. You see, technology has advanced so much since the fifties that full employment has been rendered impossible. Computerisation has made mincemeat of former skilled jobs. Advanced computer technology has even rendered computer personnel redundant.
@yahoovisitor ...And thereby hangs a tale...In general, political concepts are unable to keep up with scientific and technological advancements. To the US neocons, in particular, advancements in science and technology actually pose a threat to the established order. Their clockwork reasoning is fixed to an obsolete knowledge base that pre-dates Einstein.
@yahoovisitor During the Christmas Armistice of 1914, soldiers from both sides learned that their counterparts were just like them. They had all been told that the opposing soldiers were evil, but many soldiers came to realise that this was a lie. It is said that, following the 1914 armistice, some soldiers actually refused to fight again. In order to perpetuate this insane war, the authorities then stopped such fraternization.
@yahoovisitor The 9-11 business...many anomalies...The first images of the Pentagon showed zero aircraft wreckage on the outside. Yet, miraculously, later Pentagon images showed aircraft wreckage. The star witness to the Pentagon strike claims that the aircraft wings folded up. There's even anomalous helicopter video footage of the twin towers. The helicopter footage was shot whilst looking down on the towers, yet all you can see is the sky.
@yahoovisitor Yes, as a civilian I have my own reasons for questioning authoritarian certainties. But I don't question such certainties out of sheer spite. This isn't a hippie thing. I ask questions, because I have personally witnessed things that do not match with official truths. In the same time frame, through the media, I have been told that such things do not happen.
@yahoovisitor News report quote: "Blair cancels book launch party" Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has cancelled a party to mark the launch of his book
A party to mark the launch of Tony Blair's new book, which would have attracted protests from anti-war campaigners, has been called off.
Guests invited to the event, at the Tate Modern museum in central London, have been told that it has been postponed, said a spokeswoman for the book's publishers Random House.
@yahoovisitor When you look ever more deeply into this dreadful affair, you dig out more-and-more people who have a vested interest in ensuring that war is perpetuated. In other words, there are people in this world who have to keep on inventing reasons for totally pointless wars. This creates a market for bullets, machine guns, hand grenades, warplanes, landmines, and so-on. I would, therefore, suggest that this is not one conspiracy, but a multitude of self-interest group conspiracies.
i hope you do, it would be great to see that the whole us armforces bycott, they took an oath to defend the country the USA but their purpose in afghan is not defending, so what is it....
25ultramarine 1 year ago
This is a good sign. When a lost guy at the start of the day comes back home in the evening dont call him a lost guy. Similar condition is being faced by Indian soldiers in illegally occupied Kashmir. During his training a soldier is given an initiative to fight. But when the soldier himself discovers that its not a war but just killing innocent people starving for food & other necessities of life & feels guilty it means hes coming to the right path & getting a peace of mind the actual wealth.
yahoovisitor 2 years ago
@yahoovisitor Until Tony Blair publicly stated the the killing of ten thousand innocent Iraqi citizens would be a price worth paying, I had never dreamt that a British Prime Minister could be aligned so closely with Adolf Hitler. I was already well aware that politicians had things to hide, but this insane, infantile act of sabre rattling demonstrated, beyond any reasonable doubt, that our leaders are completely out of touch with reality. Blair's genocide proposal constituted a war crime.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson I am happy to hear that you finally got the light of distinguishing between true & false & hope that you are not thrown into darkness once again.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor That happened in 2003, when 53% of the adult UK populous were against the Iraq war. I also hate BP. BP is about greed. In 1982, it was rumoured that the Falklands area was rich in oil, but now we know for sure that oil was the real reason for the battle. The Iraq war was for oil, and it has been said that the Afghanistan conflict relates to gas pipelines.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson Fuel is becoming a hot issue globally. But killing innocent people for it is not justified in any sense, or in any global law. Its time when people like you & me are communicating with one another & we must accept this world as global village. Instead of imposing war on poor countries the global issues must be solved by joint meetings, new advancements in science & mutual trade agreements. US owes billions of $ to Iraq for the crude oil it has consumed but killing doesn't pay it.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor I suspect, and I must stress that I have strong reasons to suspect, that these energy problems have already been solved. However, I don't know whether the 1979 Los Alamos incident, in particular, is true. But I would suggest that, in a very real financial sense, those answers are entirely inconvenient to the hierarchy. It's the same scenario as the drug companies curing the common cold.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson I appreciate your knowhow. The stage comes when US wants to conquer space & has destroyed billions of $ in trying to design a space missile. China attained that target in 2007. Man's ego to conquer storm of time & space is not letting US sit calm. 9/11 the recent hypocrisy has lots of videos on youtube.com unveiling the actual facts behind this disaster. But my salute to you & your fellow soldiers to have distinguished between true & false & pray for all of you to remain in light
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor I am not, and have never been a soldier. I am a British civilian, but I feel very sorry for those who have been dragged into conflicts, have been told that they were fighting for freedom. This is nothing new. The Christmas Armistice of 1914 was a case that should be remembered. WWI was so utterly pointless that the authorities on either side had to create fearful myths about the opposing armies.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson Thank God you've seen the facts with your own eyes & have accepted them. You may not be misguided again on the topic.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor There is no way that they can fool me again. And, FYI, the 7-7 attacks on London followed the same principle as 9-11. Confusion tactics were used on 9-11, in the sense that a "tower attack by plane" scenario was being practised at the very same time as the real attack. On 7-7, a private security firm was practising for a terrorist attack on London underground at the very same time as the actual attack. Just thought you'd like to know.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson Thanks for the quick reply. The way US economy stands destroyed & US after the world destruction trying to rebuild its economy but going towards worse destruction & instability is not hidden from anyone. Mid Term elections are scheduled to take place very soon. Let's see how many US citizens are with destruction policies & how many want global peace. Price of property has halved in US with inflation bankruptcy & unemployment making lives harder. Global peace is the only remedy.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor This problem was known to Ike Eisenhower, all those years ago. He knew that the US economy was too deeply tied-in with military development costs that were spiralling out of control. As financing military ventures does not demand subsequent profitability you end up with deficits running into trillions of dollars. It is claimed that financial records of this deficit were destroyed in the 9-11 Pentagon strike (nine years ago, today).
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson But destroying records doesn't hide the facts just like if I try to destroy my notes of what I've studied I certainly fail in the exams.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Firstly, I did say that the destruction of the financial records was a claim, rather than assert it to be a fact. Secondly, I live thousands of miles away, thus I can only quote that the Pentagon images I was shown did not show any wreckage of a plane crash. But these images flashed by me on the TV screen. In actuality, this mysterious missing plane anomaly was picked up by a Frenchman.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson My friend you can very well see the destroyed US economy going from worse to worst with increasing no/rate of taxes thus leading to bankruptcy unemployment devaluation of property & fake inflation being caused daily making lives harder. But now that you have a clear picture of facts you mustn't be misguided any more for so called war actually the worst type of terrorism being exercised on the earth.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor War can be defined a form of organised terrorism. When the technology of war made it possible to terrorise civilian populations, those responsible for the wars did just that. Crush the will of those who cannot fight back. This cowardly tactic had limited effect in WWI, but, with improved aircraft technology, it was widely employed in later decades.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson I am also trying to convey the same message. USA is at its best to attain space missile technology but hasn't succeeded so far in spite of burning billions of $. Its just trying to rule the world uninterrupted & this ego has brought this situation of destroyed economy with annual deficit in trillions of $,
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Yes, I am also aware of this. The very fact that the US government is trying to rule the world through space weapons is also damaging the character of the American people. Let me put it another way: whenever there is an international conflict, entire countries are blamed. It's like blaming the whole of Iraq for the misdeeds of the former dictatorship.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson But my friend the stage of blaming is now over as far as I think. As every thing so far declared or made a ground for global destruction (still in process) is just as clear as the new days arising sun. Or the way we can hide our follies in night's darkness may not be so easy in the daylight. Similarly destroying natural resources on the globe in trying to enforce rule is bringing hard times.War or killing innocent persons is not the remedy to justify this destruction by any angle.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor I wish that there was an amicable, simple, answer to all of the destructive negativity. But what I am seeing implies a readiness to fulfil insane prophecies that could otherwise be avoided. Right at the moment, I am receiving spam emails from a number of people with incompatible, conflicting, negative ideologies. These range from anti-Semitic hate literature, to ultra-racist KKK-style Christian fascists, to a Jewish cleric calling for the wholesale destruction of America.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson Now that facts & figures are before you I don't think & hope that you can be misguided for any global destruction program in the days to come.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor No, my friend, there is no possibility that I can get dragged into any crazy scheme. I am an individual. Instead, my concern is for those who have been dis-informed/misinformed, are easily led, or even brainwashed. Some people simply want to believe that governments would tell them the truth. But even my 91-year-old mother-in-law, who was a member of the RAF's observer corps in WWII (think this is the correct title), has come to realise that governments are not trustworthy.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor As I only have 500 characters per posting, I will split this post into two parts. To tell you the truth, I have never been able to function as part of a group, or club. I tend to formulate my own opinions, and/or have other interests beyond that group, or club. A similar thing happened during the days after 9-11. At that time, I had absolutely no info on any inside deception, but felt that the notion of terrorist attacks was too unbelievable for words.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Part two: Arguably, on September 11, 2001, the USA had the most powerful air force in the world. My question at that time was where the hell was the U.S. air force on 9-11? Through emails, in the days after 9-11, I got into angry arguments with American citizens. I told them to wake up, and they felt insulted by that. How the hell could a bunch of crazy terrorists fly sub-sonic passenger jets hundreds of miles, without a single challenge from supersonic fighters?
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@clemstevenson This is a topic which may take centuries to distinguish between right & wrong. Facts on it have so much been mixed up. You may simply watch the videos on youtube.com & decide whether it was a wise or a barbaric step.
yahoovisitor 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor You've hit the nail right on the head. As the 9-11 events occurred in populated areas, the only way to jam the unwanted reports was to insert false testimony. Secondly, it was essential to confiscate all un-doctored videotape evidence from the area around the Pentagon. This means that nobody outside the affected areas can be certain as to whether they were hearing the truth, or whether they were being deceived.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Historically, disinformation was widely employed during WWII, on all levels. Indeed, supplying the German army with false intelligence data proved essential for the success of the D-Day landings. As there is a clear precedent for the use false intelligence data, I would suggest that 2001 intelligence reports of an impending terrorist attack on the USA, supplied to no-less-than 17 foreign agencies, might also have been bogus.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor A few years back, my late brother-in-law (who died in an accident in Portugal) was assigned to a job in Moscow. He was warned not to speak English in the streets of Moscow, in case he was misidentified as being an American. If he was misidentified, he faced the possibility of being beaten up. You can't realistically expect Russians, who speak an entirely different language, to recognise the difference.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Other reports from the USA do suggest a very severe recession. Currently, I am not aware of a UK recession of anything like that severity. It is also difficult for me to assess the situation here, given my own circumstances. In my case, the jobs that I am experienced in simply don't exist any more. However, I was able to overcome that impossible hurdle by becoming a carer for my disabled wife.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Some time ago, I was given a copy of '911-In Plane Site' (the director's cut), by an ex-American friend who was actually born in California. He, too. was angered by the deceit involved. The video had been available for download on the internet, but the file was of poor resolution. I showed that DVD to another friend, who was deeply angered by the sheer depth of the political deceit. Please note that this DVD was not rated, and could be copied freely.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Economics: Believe it-or-not, my personal problem (here in the UK) is the same problem that has locked Cuba into the 1950s. Cuban Marxist political dogma has no place in the 21st century. You see, technology has advanced so much since the fifties that full employment has been rendered impossible. Computerisation has made mincemeat of former skilled jobs. Advanced computer technology has even rendered computer personnel redundant.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor ...And thereby hangs a tale...In general, political concepts are unable to keep up with scientific and technological advancements. To the US neocons, in particular, advancements in science and technology actually pose a threat to the established order. Their clockwork reasoning is fixed to an obsolete knowledge base that pre-dates Einstein.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor During the Christmas Armistice of 1914, soldiers from both sides learned that their counterparts were just like them. They had all been told that the opposing soldiers were evil, but many soldiers came to realise that this was a lie. It is said that, following the 1914 armistice, some soldiers actually refused to fight again. In order to perpetuate this insane war, the authorities then stopped such fraternization.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor The 9-11 business...many anomalies...The first images of the Pentagon showed zero aircraft wreckage on the outside. Yet, miraculously, later Pentagon images showed aircraft wreckage. The star witness to the Pentagon strike claims that the aircraft wings folded up. There's even anomalous helicopter video footage of the twin towers. The helicopter footage was shot whilst looking down on the towers, yet all you can see is the sky.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor Yes, as a civilian I have my own reasons for questioning authoritarian certainties. But I don't question such certainties out of sheer spite. This isn't a hippie thing. I ask questions, because I have personally witnessed things that do not match with official truths. In the same time frame, through the media, I have been told that such things do not happen.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor News report quote: "Blair cancels book launch party" Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has cancelled a party to mark the launch of his book
A party to mark the launch of Tony Blair's new book, which would have attracted protests from anti-war campaigners, has been called off.
Guests invited to the event, at the Tate Modern museum in central London, have been told that it has been postponed, said a spokeswoman for the book's publishers Random House.
clemstevenson 1 year ago
@yahoovisitor When you look ever more deeply into this dreadful affair, you dig out more-and-more people who have a vested interest in ensuring that war is perpetuated. In other words, there are people in this world who have to keep on inventing reasons for totally pointless wars. This creates a market for bullets, machine guns, hand grenades, warplanes, landmines, and so-on. I would, therefore, suggest that this is not one conspiracy, but a multitude of self-interest group conspiracies.
clemstevenson 1 year ago