When I see people play poker like this, it makes me want to just give up on trying to become good at poker, cause I don't feel like I could ever be that good.
How the hell do you bluff like that with 4 diamonds on the board?
How the hell do you make that call with 4 diamonds on the board?
@ninjajesus81 All comes down to the maths and being able to put your opponent on a hand based on their reputation/image and how they play.
You have to be good at reading hands. Plus having the clock being put on him to make the decision more then likely influenced his decision to call. It was clear that Dia was looking for a reason to fold that hand.....
Some donk?? oh you mean the winner of the last huge torn?? Oh you mean the donk that took a long time and made an awesome call? it wasn't a snap call... I think the real donk is the person that uploaded this and not the players. Good play by both... It was a good call but also a good bluff.
@Kritsos23 pro poker player is someone that makes his income just by playing poker and nothing else.. Not just by playing on TV.. there are tons of players that have never appeared on TV and are pro players..
insta'call ivey is polerized to jacks full or air. i insta'call this because he would check the flop with jacks full and i have blockers to the aces or kings factor... easy call
he even had chips behind! theres no way hes ever jamming for value there
first of all, Ivey needs a queen of diamonds, or maybe a 10 of diamonds to do this. he wouldn't go all in for value with the seven of diamonds. Because of this, his range is super polarized. However, most of the time when players do this they have some sort of flush. Ivey is good at representing big hands on board for everything hit. Because of that, if you're not willing to make a big call ever with a marginal hand, players like Phil Ivey can run you over.
The so called donk your calling won the event the year before. The ppl who call others donks with no idea are another breed of donkey's. They are called Jackass's.
@25Janfranco True. They even say in the video that Dia is the reigning Aussie million champion. Very likely a lot better than all people commenting here.
its a great call cause ivey not really repping much except a boat. And its just unlikely he has jj. Unlikely a queen high flush to hit runner rnner for a flush. and anything else he startd with is now pretty much dead all pocket pairs are no good now. So hes repping very narrow range. I thnk its a good call and a bad bluff since dia hits a lot on that board with the ak out there.
@fliptthescript Ivey is not really repping much on a 4 to a flush and paired board?? That is an ultimate scary board and you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Ivey's hand is polarised and is a great bluff, the call is very suspect with top 2 pair.
Gotta agree that it was a donkish call as if that hand was played 100 times he would come out a loser most of the hands but he made the hero call. Also he didn't bet once with AK. Betting pre flop and on flop would have been the better play if you play this sorta hand 100 pr 1000 times and u won't get bluffed out by air
It's funny to read people's comments here about "what was he representing" all he had to have was a diamond in his hand just any diamond, He could have a set of jacks which would be full house on the flop, he could have turned a full house he could have had a flush on the turn he could have about ANYTHING... an ACE KING was not that great of a hand on the river... people who think he had some read, nah, he just called because he wished it was true and it would hold up.. simple..
On the turn there were 3 diamonds, then the king diamond came on the river. If Dia already had a pair on the turn with a strong diamond he wouldn't hesitate that long to call. Ivey knew this when the fourth diamon came on the river, and shiped it being confident Dia would fold any pair or maybe even a set or a straight if he had to.
i think it's a bit of a random call by Dia, not because i'm lickin Phil's balls, but mainly looking at his hendon mob page, this guy looks like clear dead money.
him, AQ, AJ with a diamond beats him, a set beats him, pocket Jacks beat him, pocket Kings beat him. DONK CALL ALL THE WAY...right or not. Phil just got caught. Thats it. Misplayed hand, donk call that was right. End of story.
Great play and donk call. He was sitting there thinking "I just misplayed my hand"...got married to his cards and couldn't fold 2 pair. DONK call even though it was right. Doesn't matter if it was right, it was a misplayed hand and a donk call. He played it like a typical home game donk who couldn't fold a big hand, who misplayed a big hand preflop, then made a crying call and slammed his cards down like he owned him. It took him long enough to call. Any pocket pair with a diamond beats
I think that if Phil checked the flop, then bet the turn he would have a more convincing story when he shoves. His 3-barrel bluff is totally polarized and heads up you just dont expect to see him holding one of the few hands he'd do that with, imo.
But hey, if I'm Dia, I cant say that Id have the figure it out as well as he did. :)
Reading the comments, there is a lot of disagreement as to whether he should have called or not. I'm with the people that say that was a retarded call. Soooo many ways to lose with only AK, you have to just be a fool to call that....unless you have a sure fire read, of course. but I don't think he had that...but then again, who knows. He also had Ivey's stack covered so not the end for him even if he lost. I would have folded and try to find a better situation.
The thing is - Ivey is only pushing with a BOAT or a bluff here. That's why the diamond isn't worrying for Dia, he has to think of what boat Ivey would have, and the way Ivey bet it makes no sense for a flopped boat, and it's unlikely he turned or rivered the boat unless he has A2. A2 is the only logical hand here with the way Ivey played it.
@J0v41 it was a terrible call in my opinion. can only put ivey on a bluff, and a bluff that doesn't have some greasy diamond. he could have easily been shoving with a small flush
@alexnzxVersion2 Without going into whether this particular call is +EV or not, your comment is fallacious. You should check out Phil Galfond's article on G-Bucks. It is very possible to make a bad call that still wins you the pot. You can win in the short term while still making a call that costs you money in the long term.
amazing call you've got to think aswell is the fact that the ace and king of diamonds come up which means he struggles to put ivey on a hand with a diamond in it, also the easiest hands to bluff are four card straights and four card flushs although still old matey makes a soul read to make the call , personally could never of made it at that stage in a tournament!
@danielvandam I don't think it was, if Ivey had made that call everyone would be saying what a fantastic call it was. Just because it's a less well known player people think it was a donkey call. Bear in mind he's the defending champion. In that situation Ivey either has a monster or nothing, there aren't that many hands that he's losing too against that range. I think it was a good call; it took some heart. Btw, last year I looked at this hand and thought exactly the same as you!
@danielvandam Firstly, he wasn't putting his tournament life on the line. Secondly, these are the late stages of a tournament. If you ever want to win a tournament like this you have to take risks in the late stages. It is an incredibly important pot (big stack if he wins, short if he loses). With the payout structure of a tournament like this you have much more equity playing to win than playing to survive. If it were the early stages then your advice is fairly sound, but at this stage no.
@danielvandam Firstly, he wasn't putting his tournament life on the line. Secondly, these are the late stages of a tournament. If you ever want to win a tournament like this you have to take risks in the late stages. It is an incredibly important pot (big stack if he wins, short if he loses). With the payout structure of a tournament like this you have much more equity playing to win than playing to survive. Also note that Ivey knew this and took the same all in risk, it clearly makes sense
I mean ivey is a trained bluffer. Thats what he does. you can't seriously believe him anything based on his chips. It was good for him just to take the chance. I mean 2.4 to 1.
No, the video description is fine, Ivey had the right read. And lets not give Dia too much credit, he ran the clock down to 3 seconds and then made a snap decision to call. Wouldn't be surprised if he just did eeny meeny miny mo in his head and said oh fuck it I call. Oh and winning a tournament doesn't make you a good player, cases in point, David Williams, Jamie Gold...
"Brilliant handreading" by Ivey? Is that why he assumed his opponent had a hand he could lay down to a big bluff raise? "Ivey owns some donk"? Is that why Ivey got stacked by the "donk"? The "donk" was the reigning champion, not some celebrity gambler who was paid to participate. I would suggest the person who posted this video should look-up the meanings of "owned" and "donk". And maybe do a little research on poker to see why this was a very dumb move for Ivey at that stage of the tourney.
most of you saying "bad call and donk call" are retards...as they said Dia was the reining champion...he must of had a read on Ivey. Most of you guys just suck Phil Ivey off...if the roles were switched all id see is "wow great call by ivey" "sick read ivey best in the world"...just stfu...it was a great play by ivey and i great call by Dia
@kemoblue4u couldn't have put it better myself....honestly though i would not (nor would anyone with some knowledge of poker) have called with 4 diamonds on the board. but i guess it depends on the size of my stack and other factors. overall dia made a great call so all the haters need to stfu
@aramic1989 think for a while donk, Phil raised pre flop and the A,K and J are on the board, Q 10 9 of diamonds are not in the bord, so Phil bets in flop with J 2 2, what could he had? Any J and Q of diamond (QJ off), then in turn it comes the A of diamond, and Ivey bets again, (he wouldnt do that with QJ, only a pair of J with an Ace on board, he probablly would check) , on the river K of diamond so the only hand that could beat you is QJ off with the Q of diamond or floped full house of JJJ22
So to win with QJ off, Ivey would have to bet on turn with the A on board, thats not probablly he would check to control the size of the pot, then QJ its eliminated from rangelist and only rests JJ and Ivey with a floped Full House, that i dont think he would played that agressivly, he would try to trap him or at least give him one free card to complete a flush project or set/full smaller
@bourdinb youre the donk buddy...first of all learn how to write in english. second of all the Q of diamond or floped full house of JJJ22 is definitely not the only hand that could have beaten Dia, any diamond could have beaten him. aside from those two points, your analysis is pretty crappy and doesnt make much sense, i dont even know what youre really trying to get at. oh and also, phil could not have had "any J and Q of diamond seeing as the J of diamonds came on the flop. try again loser.
@aramic1989 think for a while donk, Phil raised pre flop and the A,K and J are on the board, Q 10 9 of diamonds are not in the bord, so Phil bets in flop with J 2 2, what could he had? Any J and Q of diamond (QJ off), then in turn it comes the A of diamond, and Ivey bets again, (he wouldnt do that with QJ, only a pair of J with an Ace on board, he probablly would check) , on the river K of diamond so the only hand that could beat you is QJ off with the Q of diamond or floped full house of JJJ22
@kemoblue4u obviously u have never played poker b4, 99% percent of the time when somebody goes all in in that position and u don't have a diamond or even high diamond at that you have lost. dumb fricking call dont care who makes the call.
it's really hard to say whether it's a bad call or a good call, it really comes down to the quality of the player. if a random donkey instant called it, it would've been a bad call. but since dia seriously considered phil ivey's cards for like 5 mins, i think he deserves respect for this call.
Just to let you all know, when you pronounce Aussie, say it like it is spelled with a pair of z's. Like Ozzie. I'm an Aussie and it is kinda irritating when it is pronounced that way. Oh yes, there is a difference between the South African, New Zealand and Australian accents too.
Donk call for sure. The guy had no clue where he was at in the hand, he had no read. He just thought he had a chance to take out phil ivey so he would call and hope he didnt have a hand.
@mmbbal24 Why the fuck do you talk without actually doing any thought or research? Dia won the Aussie millions who the fuck do you think you are to say he has no clue where he was in the hand?
@Alex94518 the so called donk that uploaded the video wasnt actually wrong. he just never mentioned whether it was a succesful bluff, or an unsuccessful bluff. I wish people would think before they make bold statements!
of all these high IQ teenagers who evolve to be good players with modern technology, I don't think he'll continue with his success in tournaments because when there is no more suckers out there anymore, he will soon become one....
PS: why do you see those famous ones hiding in Poker after dark or high stake poker? Obviously they know they have no chance anymore winning in public...
Ya first ivey represents the jack. Then the turn he represents the ace or flush. tHen the river he saying he has the nuts. Thats just very likely hes floating and bluffing. Thats why dia was the former champion. Ivey is known for bluffing and floating. You have to call him especially on scary boards since he bluffs them so much.
only reason why the guy called was because he was getting 2.5 to 1 AND he had so many chips that he could afford to lose that hand anyway. even the announcers said that.
@nyrocks54 maybe you havent played that much tournament poker, but at that stage of a tournament you have to take big risk to stay in the game. Personally I think he made the right call going all in there.
if ivey put Dia on AK with no diamonds, hes gotta know that a player like Dia will find it too hard to fold that hand so the all-in is neither a good nor bad play imo
Don't think worthy of calling him a donk, as he won the hand and is the defending champ for that tournament. Slow playing is a viable and often used style but it was potentially much more effective and sensible to apply a standard pre-flop raise. Phil Ivey is my favourite player, and I'm sure many other people's too but it came down to him just being unlucky to get called after he played what he had tremendously well. Of course that's open to critique and personal opinion but just my thoughts...
that was an awful awful call. ivey made a bet nobody in the world would or could make...and against a good player (i.e. hellmuth, daniel, matusow, etc) it would have worked. the fact is the guy put 3/4 of his stack out there with a hand that would be the best 10% of the time with that board. i gotta give him credit for making it, but honestly it doesn't make sense.
This is not as hard a laydown and people may think.
Dia puts Ivey on AJ or KJ all the way through that hand
the turn Ivey bets 40k with a scary board this would make alot of sence to bet that with 2 pair and take the pot down now rather then allowing another card. Dia cant put phil on a flush becuase he knows phil wouldn't bet so much to take him off the hand. In my opinion Ivey plays this hand bad trying to bluff when the betting patterns shows that he has at most 2 pair
@Bladen12345 and i think he's right, most people nowadays dont even think about pot odds they'd call when they are a 4:1 underdog with a 4 high flush draw, it's fucking ridiculous lol.
hes says kings full
ShortStackKidd 4 days ago
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ShortStackKidd 4 days ago
Ivey said good call not kings full
yasensoa 4 days ago
@yasensoa No, he said "Kings Full" and then laughed and patted Dia on the shoulder (ie. to say he is just joking).
Rajplayer 3 days ago
Phil said nice call not kings full you idiot reporter
yasensoa 5 days ago
@yasensoa You heard it wrong. He did say kings full.
nioor 4 days ago
@nioor yep the best player in the world just went there....
yasensoa 4 days ago
Ivey sure gave the guy a sweat :))
Markhector114 1 week ago
When I see people play poker like this, it makes me want to just give up on trying to become good at poker, cause I don't feel like I could ever be that good.
How the hell do you bluff like that with 4 diamonds on the board?
How the hell do you make that call with 4 diamonds on the board?
ninjajesus81 1 week ago
@ninjajesus81 All comes down to the maths and being able to put your opponent on a hand based on their reputation/image and how they play.
You have to be good at reading hands. Plus having the clock being put on him to make the decision more then likely influenced his decision to call. It was clear that Dia was looking for a reason to fold that hand.....
PikeyRko 2 days ago
the 1 minute was a mistake...
manditheos 1 week ago
I wouldve played Q9 suited there
Cdub2k 2 weeks ago 3
Some donk?? oh you mean the winner of the last huge torn?? Oh you mean the donk that took a long time and made an awesome call? it wasn't a snap call... I think the real donk is the person that uploaded this and not the players. Good play by both... It was a good call but also a good bluff.
KillEveryoneKillPhil 2 weeks ago
"Kings Full..." (with a straight face 5:37)
LOL, gotta love Ivey's sense of humor! :-)
MacBubbles 3 weeks ago
disliked because PhilIveyfan isn't too smart
jiamonx2 3 weeks ago
@Kritsos23 Ps:as long as they are ritch,desperate or for a laugh with friends.
Kritsos23 3 weeks ago
There's no such thing as a "pro poker player" they are all on tv,that's why they are called a "pro".Anybody can play poker nowadays.
Kritsos23 3 weeks ago
@Kritsos23 pro poker player is someone that makes his income just by playing poker and nothing else.. Not just by playing on TV.. there are tons of players that have never appeared on TV and are pro players..
OneOfTheSmurfs 2 weeks ago
Ivey's bet on the flop wasn't convincing. He's shouldn't have gone all-in.
Agnotio 3 weeks ago
retarded commentator
existenceisnonsense 1 month ago
Title: Get out Ivey's arse
bonzilicke 1 month ago
insta'call ivey is polerized to jacks full or air. i insta'call this because he would check the flop with jacks full and i have blockers to the aces or kings factor... easy call
he even had chips behind! theres no way hes ever jamming for value there
bluemillhouse 1 month ago
@enterjcs
first of all, Ivey needs a queen of diamonds, or maybe a 10 of diamonds to do this. he wouldn't go all in for value with the seven of diamonds. Because of this, his range is super polarized. However, most of the time when players do this they have some sort of flush. Ivey is good at representing big hands on board for everything hit. Because of that, if you're not willing to make a big call ever with a marginal hand, players like Phil Ivey can run you over.
pogoman555 1 month ago
He called with the best hand idiots, how is he a donkey. Great call man
jarrad0609 1 month ago
fantastic bluff by phil ivey.. he was unlucky to be called.
sean19922k7 1 month ago
his two paris only beats a bluff
DonSaether 1 month ago
u have to fold that when the 4th diamond comes
jpjames1 1 month ago
If a pro makes this call you all jump on his dick saying it was great call but if a random player makes the call he's a donk.
SouthFamilyDad 1 month ago
check description man
PR3D45C 1 month ago
Pro play by Ivey,stupid call by the donkey
Detheroclol 1 month ago
The so called donk your calling won the event the year before. The ppl who call others donks with no idea are another breed of donkey's. They are called Jackass's.
25Janfranco 1 month ago
@25Janfranco True. They even say in the video that Dia is the reigning Aussie million champion. Very likely a lot better than all people commenting here.
Devilsnightforlife 1 month ago
all in like a boss
Clone56 1 month ago
Donkey call, period.
d4t44 1 month ago
easy call for a good player
J2KingPS 2 months ago
Good call Dia wp
ShallowBayBandit 2 months ago
HORRIBLE CALL, and horrible playing.
runback1983 2 months ago
probably the best call i've ever seen!!
michaelmonahan100 2 months ago
@michaelmonahan100 try antonius vs lack
now thats an unexplained call 10 vs aj
TheBarbahaba 2 months ago
Iggy I hate Ivey but that was a crying call by dia. He should have folded. What a donk call
TheBIGchaPOWski 2 months ago
its a great call cause ivey not really repping much except a boat. And its just unlikely he has jj. Unlikely a queen high flush to hit runner rnner for a flush. and anything else he startd with is now pretty much dead all pocket pairs are no good now. So hes repping very narrow range. I thnk its a good call and a bad bluff since dia hits a lot on that board with the ak out there.
fliptthescript 3 months ago
@fliptthescript Ivey is not really repping much on a 4 to a flush and paired board?? That is an ultimate scary board and you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Ivey's hand is polarised and is a great bluff, the call is very suspect with top 2 pair.
tranquility321 1 month ago
phil ivey followers are dellusional
BurnYourCash 3 months ago
lucky donk call
phil ivey #1
kookoon 4 months ago
i love how the commentator says aussie millions. sssss. its a z sound :P
Jourdydogyella 4 months ago
Phil Ivey is the sickest :D
timoboll777 5 months ago
Gotta agree that it was a donkish call as if that hand was played 100 times he would come out a loser most of the hands but he made the hero call. Also he didn't bet once with AK. Betting pre flop and on flop would have been the better play if you play this sorta hand 100 pr 1000 times and u won't get bluffed out by air
silentsniper125 5 months ago
200k in the pot and he has ivey covered. the all in looked desperate.
lafkdjay 5 months ago
Amazing Call...
jcavaletto708 5 months ago
ivey played it like the best, but i gotta agree this guy made a pro call.
ikweetbeter 5 months ago
It's funny to read people's comments here about "what was he representing" all he had to have was a diamond in his hand just any diamond, He could have a set of jacks which would be full house on the flop, he could have turned a full house he could have had a flush on the turn he could have about ANYTHING... an ACE KING was not that great of a hand on the river... people who think he had some read, nah, he just called because he wished it was true and it would hold up.. simple..
67steinip 5 months ago
This is brilliant poker hand.
TwistedMetal32 5 months ago 4
But what was he representing on the flop turn and river it was unlikely that he would bet the flush on all three streets
garuccio123 6 months ago
this video is pure flame bait with the title and then phil ivey getting owned.
endlives1 6 months ago
On the turn there were 3 diamonds, then the king diamond came on the river. If Dia already had a pair on the turn with a strong diamond he wouldn't hesitate that long to call. Ivey knew this when the fourth diamon came on the river, and shiped it being confident Dia would fold any pair or maybe even a set or a straight if he had to.
CoLLecToR91 6 months ago
fucking good call
michimichimichimichi 6 months ago
Ivey :D :D: D xD xD xD
ricsihawk 6 months ago
Ivey's range is crushing him here,but the donk made the hero call. At least 80%+ of the time, he'll lose to ivey in that spot.
undef1 6 months ago
i think it's a bit of a random call by Dia, not because i'm lickin Phil's balls, but mainly looking at his hendon mob page, this guy looks like clear dead money.
fabio05cannavaro 6 months ago
ivey only man alive with bigger ballz than me
HaRaKiRix33 7 months ago
Haha the creeper at 1:52
tarzaniac9 7 months ago
Never bluff all in
chazsinohui 7 months ago
him, AQ, AJ with a diamond beats him, a set beats him, pocket Jacks beat him, pocket Kings beat him. DONK CALL ALL THE WAY...right or not. Phil just got caught. Thats it. Misplayed hand, donk call that was right. End of story.
Bigbriansc 7 months ago
Great play and donk call. He was sitting there thinking "I just misplayed my hand"...got married to his cards and couldn't fold 2 pair. DONK call even though it was right. Doesn't matter if it was right, it was a misplayed hand and a donk call. He played it like a typical home game donk who couldn't fold a big hand, who misplayed a big hand preflop, then made a crying call and slammed his cards down like he owned him. It took him long enough to call. Any pocket pair with a diamond beats
Bigbriansc 7 months ago
In what way did Phil Ivey own anyone in this hand?
JetboyOZ 7 months ago
The way to beat guys like Ivey is to just let them bluff off their chips.
rfwelsh 7 months ago
I think that if Phil checked the flop, then bet the turn he would have a more convincing story when he shoves. His 3-barrel bluff is totally polarized and heads up you just dont expect to see him holding one of the few hands he'd do that with, imo.
But hey, if I'm Dia, I cant say that Id have the figure it out as well as he did. :)
andrehanderson 7 months ago
BEST CALL EVER.
emanuelhxcx 7 months ago
Reading the comments, there is a lot of disagreement as to whether he should have called or not. I'm with the people that say that was a retarded call. Soooo many ways to lose with only AK, you have to just be a fool to call that....unless you have a sure fire read, of course. but I don't think he had that...but then again, who knows. He also had Ivey's stack covered so not the end for him even if he lost. I would have folded and try to find a better situation.
musashi06 7 months ago
Ivey noob
zzzgdap 7 months ago
the guy with ace king should of never let it get to the river...all in on the turn.
TheSLAPS101 7 months ago
The thing is - Ivey is only pushing with a BOAT or a bluff here. That's why the diamond isn't worrying for Dia, he has to think of what boat Ivey would have, and the way Ivey bet it makes no sense for a flopped boat, and it's unlikely he turned or rivered the boat unless he has A2. A2 is the only logical hand here with the way Ivey played it.
R088O 8 months ago
i wouldnt blame ivey there you have nearly more then 50% of your chips in the pot you have to take a stabb at it. "go big or go home" philosophy
Kino483 8 months ago
that was a great call. i think that the title should be rename.
J0v41 8 months ago 8
@J0v41 it was a terrible call in my opinion. can only put ivey on a bluff, and a bluff that doesn't have some greasy diamond. he could have easily been shoving with a small flush
mitchsmullet 2 weeks ago
@J0v41 its a great bluff and a good call
crackz123 1 week ago
@J0v41 thats very easy to say but if he is wrong and Ivey happens to have him beat wed be saying dia is a donk for making that call
yasensoa 5 days ago
i would easy fold, 2 pairs in a board like this it's uncallabble i think execpt if u put ur opponent on a stone cold bluff :)
tomrom83 8 months ago
Some people on YouTube are retarded saying "bad call". Any call that wins you a pot is a good call, thats common sence.
alexnzxVersion2 8 months ago
@alexnzxVersion2 Without going into whether this particular call is +EV or not, your comment is fallacious. You should check out Phil Galfond's article on G-Bucks. It is very possible to make a bad call that still wins you the pot. You can win in the short term while still making a call that costs you money in the long term.
GaeasBlessing 1 month ago
lol , phil ivey owned ? more like ate shit , since preflop
sadsson 8 months ago
uncallabble!
ptikouillon 8 months ago
He played that hand terribly. He was supposed to re raise pre flop. Then when he hit that ace on the Turn he should have re popped Phils turn bet.
but what do I know??? He's the defending Aussie Million Champ. I'm just a Goat Herder from Montana
Cdub2k 8 months ago
He doesn't OWN him... The other player calls and wins!?!??! Stupid discription......
11998888 9 months ago 15
@11998888 Yes,it would be better a title like"Great call on an huge bluff"!!!
papuz93 1 month ago
amazing call you've got to think aswell is the fact that the ace and king of diamonds come up which means he struggles to put ivey on a hand with a diamond in it, also the easiest hands to bluff are four card straights and four card flushs although still old matey makes a soul read to make the call , personally could never of made it at that stage in a tournament!
bludiwin 9 months ago
What a retarded call
danielvandam 9 months ago
@danielvandam I don't think it was, if Ivey had made that call everyone would be saying what a fantastic call it was. Just because it's a less well known player people think it was a donkey call. Bear in mind he's the defending champion. In that situation Ivey either has a monster or nothing, there aren't that many hands that he's losing too against that range. I think it was a good call; it took some heart. Btw, last year I looked at this hand and thought exactly the same as you!
toby0cooper 9 months ago
@toby0cooper he simply cant put his tournament life on the line like this, it makes no sense
danielvandam 9 months ago
@danielvandam Firstly, he wasn't putting his tournament life on the line. Secondly, these are the late stages of a tournament. If you ever want to win a tournament like this you have to take risks in the late stages. It is an incredibly important pot (big stack if he wins, short if he loses). With the payout structure of a tournament like this you have much more equity playing to win than playing to survive. If it were the early stages then your advice is fairly sound, but at this stage no.
toby0cooper 9 months ago
@danielvandam Firstly, he wasn't putting his tournament life on the line. Secondly, these are the late stages of a tournament. If you ever want to win a tournament like this you have to take risks in the late stages. It is an incredibly important pot (big stack if he wins, short if he loses). With the payout structure of a tournament like this you have much more equity playing to win than playing to survive. Also note that Ivey knew this and took the same all in risk, it clearly makes sense
toby0cooper 9 months ago
@toby0cooper BS, that was a donky call. He just couldn't lay the hand down.
accord21 8 months ago
@danielvandam If he wants to not just make the money but actually win the tournament he absolutely needs to take such risks.
kuja900 8 months ago
Ivey makes me think of durrr a little bit
djsinya 9 months ago 2
and btw im specifically not going to play at full tilt so i dont have to lose all my chips to ivey
b112895 9 months ago
I mean ivey is a trained bluffer. Thats what he does. you can't seriously believe him anything based on his chips. It was good for him just to take the chance. I mean 2.4 to 1.
b112895 9 months ago
Trust me, if the guy didn't countdown on clock, he would've folded.
n1pod 9 months ago 12
Wow Dia is awesome I would have folded and Ivey would have beaten me. Wow nice job Dia.
therightstuff90731 9 months ago in playlist nnnnnn
the stupid thought he had 3 pair
arcanblades 9 months ago
It was a good bluff and great call.. Fuck u niggers who say different
smack9923 9 months ago
I like the commentators reaction. Like that's not suppose to happen
thatguywithnothing 9 months ago
Anger amongst the crowd
thatguywithnothing 9 months ago
impossible call, i'd fold it instantly with 4 diamonds out there.
but I'm just a fish.
eIzzuqpuzzle 10 months ago
@eIzzuqpuzzle me too bro :/ i wish i got better at bluffin and catchin my opponents' bluffs
gojuryu3 9 months ago
"Kings full!"
Andrei1103gi 10 months ago
No, the video description is fine, Ivey had the right read. And lets not give Dia too much credit, he ran the clock down to 3 seconds and then made a snap decision to call. Wouldn't be surprised if he just did eeny meeny miny mo in his head and said oh fuck it I call. Oh and winning a tournament doesn't make you a good player, cases in point, David Williams, Jamie Gold...
DonkasaurusNZ 10 months ago
That dia guy took so long making a call they went to commercial, came back
ALLhailBRITANNIA714 11 months ago
Nice call by Dia. W don't care he has only two pair with 4 diamonds on the board. He took the pot, and that's what is important.
MrPasympa 11 months ago
have to say that phil ivey still played the best in this hand
KoreanStyleGaming 11 months ago
"Brilliant handreading" by Ivey? Is that why he assumed his opponent had a hand he could lay down to a big bluff raise? "Ivey owns some donk"? Is that why Ivey got stacked by the "donk"? The "donk" was the reigning champion, not some celebrity gambler who was paid to participate. I would suggest the person who posted this video should look-up the meanings of "owned" and "donk". And maybe do a little research on poker to see why this was a very dumb move for Ivey at that stage of the tourney.
FatFred2U 1 year ago 12
@FatFred2U well said... u saved me writing out my comment! u covered everything I was gonna say! obviously whoever posted this does not have a clue!
Deisegaz 1 year ago
most of you saying "bad call and donk call" are retards...as they said Dia was the reining champion...he must of had a read on Ivey. Most of you guys just suck Phil Ivey off...if the roles were switched all id see is "wow great call by ivey" "sick read ivey best in the world"...just stfu...it was a great play by ivey and i great call by Dia
kemoblue4u 1 year ago 33
@kemoblue4u
agreed
TheSazbak 1 year ago
@kemoblue4u couldn't have put it better myself....honestly though i would not (nor would anyone with some knowledge of poker) have called with 4 diamonds on the board. but i guess it depends on the size of my stack and other factors. overall dia made a great call so all the haters need to stfu
aramic1989 11 months ago
@aramic1989 its not an impossible call against ivey. but i was shocked he made it
BoomItsElls 11 months ago
@aramic1989 think for a while donk, Phil raised pre flop and the A,K and J are on the board, Q 10 9 of diamonds are not in the bord, so Phil bets in flop with J 2 2, what could he had? Any J and Q of diamond (QJ off), then in turn it comes the A of diamond, and Ivey bets again, (he wouldnt do that with QJ, only a pair of J with an Ace on board, he probablly would check) , on the river K of diamond so the only hand that could beat you is QJ off with the Q of diamond or floped full house of JJJ22
bourdinb 11 months ago
@aramic1989
So to win with QJ off, Ivey would have to bet on turn with the A on board, thats not probablly he would check to control the size of the pot, then QJ its eliminated from rangelist and only rests JJ and Ivey with a floped Full House, that i dont think he would played that agressivly, he would try to trap him or at least give him one free card to complete a flush project or set/full smaller
bourdinb 11 months ago
@bourdinb phil ivey doesnt play like u pretend sir!! If u really think ure so good, quit ur job now and move in las vegas !!
badscrew21 10 months ago
@bourdinb youre the donk buddy...first of all learn how to write in english. second of all the Q of diamond or floped full house of JJJ22 is definitely not the only hand that could have beaten Dia, any diamond could have beaten him. aside from those two points, your analysis is pretty crappy and doesnt make much sense, i dont even know what youre really trying to get at. oh and also, phil could not have had "any J and Q of diamond seeing as the J of diamonds came on the flop. try again loser.
aramic1989 11 months ago
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@aramic1989 think for a while donk, Phil raised pre flop and the A,K and J are on the board, Q 10 9 of diamonds are not in the bord, so Phil bets in flop with J 2 2, what could he had? Any J and Q of diamond (QJ off), then in turn it comes the A of diamond, and Ivey bets again, (he wouldnt do that with QJ, only a pair of J with an Ace on board, he probablly would check) , on the river K of diamond so the only hand that could beat you is QJ off with the Q of diamond or floped full house of JJJ22
bourdinb 11 months ago
@kemoblue4u obviously u have never played poker b4, 99% percent of the time when somebody goes all in in that position and u don't have a diamond or even high diamond at that you have lost. dumb fricking call dont care who makes the call.
errolrob 6 months ago
that was the WORST call i've ever seen. great play by Ivey
shroey20 1 year ago
AK coulnd not call look at board flush board so obvious he made a super call but vs ivey u cant call alalin just on pair of Ace or king
123serg123 1 year ago
Dia called because it's phil ivey, if it was some random donkey maniac like duhamel he'd fold that lol.
dh144498 1 year ago
it's really hard to say whether it's a bad call or a good call, it really comes down to the quality of the player. if a random donkey instant called it, it would've been a bad call. but since dia seriously considered phil ivey's cards for like 5 mins, i think he deserves respect for this call.
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mauriciorua21 1 year ago
Scary.............great play from ivey, great call
skisunshine 1 year ago
Scary.............great play
skisunshine 1 year ago
donk call
tonyosi 1 year ago
@tonyosi most definitely but he had the stack to take a risk.
jebussaves1 1 year ago
"kings full" lmao
Sulfarose 1 year ago
impresionante all-in e impresionante call!!
tutorialesdepoker 1 year ago
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tutorialesdepoker 1 year ago
if dia did this ivey everyone would be saying
omg what a great call by ivey!!!
ColdHearted 1 year ago 4
Fuck hatters donk played great...That's one scary flop.
mhtsos12 1 year ago
Just to let you all know, when you pronounce Aussie, say it like it is spelled with a pair of z's. Like Ozzie. I'm an Aussie and it is kinda irritating when it is pronounced that way. Oh yes, there is a difference between the South African, New Zealand and Australian accents too.
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yutomic23 1 year ago
@jessie11982
quote.."ivey owns some donk" Maybe u should read more into it.
didgiboi 1 year ago
@philliveyfan
What an idiot...!!!
didgiboi 1 year ago
Donk call for sure. The guy had no clue where he was at in the hand, he had no read. He just thought he had a chance to take out phil ivey so he would call and hope he didnt have a hand.
mmbbal24 1 year ago
@mmbbal24 You're exactly right, which makes it a GOOD call. He could afford it, so why not?
rovert40 1 year ago
@mmbbal24 Why the fuck do you talk without actually doing any thought or research? Dia won the Aussie millions who the fuck do you think you are to say he has no clue where he was in the hand?
swordfish712 10 months ago
That's not a donk that's Jamil Dia and he is a very successful pro, the thing is Ivey is just really that good.
cmeloni81 1 year ago
ahahha phillveyfan you dumb fuck
aybaybayyy69 1 year ago
I think this is the worst ive seen Ivey play a hand........and its somehow still better than i play my best ones
SHELFSIDEYID1882 1 year ago
The donk that uploaded this didn't even watch the full video. AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAX LOL LOL LOL LOL. Ivey lost the hand!!!!!!!!!
Alex94518 1 year ago 4
@Alex94518 the so called donk that uploaded the video wasnt actually wrong. he just never mentioned whether it was a succesful bluff, or an unsuccessful bluff. I wish people would think before they make bold statements!
jessie11982 1 year ago
of all these high IQ teenagers who evolve to be good players with modern technology, I don't think he'll continue with his success in tournaments because when there is no more suckers out there anymore, he will soon become one....
PS: why do you see those famous ones hiding in Poker after dark or high stake poker? Obviously they know they have no chance anymore winning in public...
Bossiiiii 1 year ago
Ya first ivey represents the jack. Then the turn he represents the ace or flush. tHen the river he saying he has the nuts. Thats just very likely hes floating and bluffing. Thats why dia was the former champion. Ivey is known for bluffing and floating. You have to call him especially on scary boards since he bluffs them so much.
fliptthescript 1 year ago
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markeithmm89 1 year ago
it's not bluff he lost it was just bad playing
DeniskaFromRussia 1 year ago
Scary board indeed!
Th4rk 1 year ago
philiveyfan,,,, you do realise that he lost this hand dont you
Dazza781 1 year ago
only reason why the guy called was because he was getting 2.5 to 1 AND he had so many chips that he could afford to lose that hand anyway. even the announcers said that.
dh144498 1 year ago
haha donkivey
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PokerStashers 1 year ago
Not reraising ivey was a massive mistake.
Struckgold 1 year ago
@Struckgold in this hand? and then won the max? wtf r u talking about?
lawnmowerman7 1 year ago
Owns some donk? He lost... What the hell are you talking about?
Showmeyourtitties 1 year ago
a good bluff made at the wrong player
ivey made a mistake not knowing that dia was capable of this call
nyrocks54 1 year ago
@nyrocks54 maybe you havent played that much tournament poker, but at that stage of a tournament you have to take big risk to stay in the game. Personally I think he made the right call going all in there.
Nartakh 1 year ago
@Nartakh im not hatin on ivey but i mean ivey has good stack huge bluff against i guy whos liable to call
nyrocks54 1 year ago
if ivey put Dia on AK with no diamonds, hes gotta know that a player like Dia will find it too hard to fold that hand so the all-in is neither a good nor bad play imo
19amerika 1 year ago
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mrblink1823 1 year ago
@mrblink1823 the nuts? yeah, he'd have the nuts, other than aces, kings, jacks, deuces, jack deuce, king deuce, or ace deuce. very observant.
LilFootBallboy67 1 year ago
Don't think worthy of calling him a donk, as he won the hand and is the defending champ for that tournament. Slow playing is a viable and often used style but it was potentially much more effective and sensible to apply a standard pre-flop raise. Phil Ivey is my favourite player, and I'm sure many other people's too but it came down to him just being unlucky to get called after he played what he had tremendously well. Of course that's open to critique and personal opinion but just my thoughts...
Salamipoo 1 year ago
that was an awful awful call. ivey made a bet nobody in the world would or could make...and against a good player (i.e. hellmuth, daniel, matusow, etc) it would have worked. the fact is the guy put 3/4 of his stack out there with a hand that would be the best 10% of the time with that board. i gotta give him credit for making it, but honestly it doesn't make sense.
thewisconsinboy 1 year ago
This is not as hard a laydown and people may think.
Dia puts Ivey on AJ or KJ all the way through that hand
the turn Ivey bets 40k with a scary board this would make alot of sence to bet that with 2 pair and take the pot down now rather then allowing another card. Dia cant put phil on a flush becuase he knows phil wouldn't bet so much to take him off the hand. In my opinion Ivey plays this hand bad trying to bluff when the betting patterns shows that he has at most 2 pair
SwereBox 2 years ago
Why put your whole stack on the line to call Ivey? Don't get the call myself.
lollerz16 2 years ago
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ebolaking1 2 years ago
"Poker becomes less mathematical and more psychological".
- Phil Ivey
Bladen12345 2 years ago 60
@Bladen12345 and i think he's right, most people nowadays dont even think about pot odds they'd call when they are a 4:1 underdog with a 4 high flush draw, it's fucking ridiculous lol.
dh144498 1 year ago