The Tale of Two Holocausts

[02524630N]

And yet, we must not dismiss the works of radicals just because they are not historians...They may be pointing out to what official historians ommit because the academic establishment subjects the necessity to make the truth honestly known to the desires of the political power and their financial masters. The next few decades in the South West of today's USA will be the result of the very American economic forces and its pull over foreign human resources. The reverse of a historical tide.

[demikede1]

To end the post: the VdA seems to lean towards the same racism they claim to be against. VdA wants a separate Hispanic majority land in the Western US from (northern) Cali. to (East) Texas. Their anti-establishment but pro-racialist agenda is similar to the Black Nation of Islam, American Indian movement, some French-Canadian/Quebec separatists, Northern Ireland terror groups, etc. How can they be anti-white racist (Nazis), pro-third world (Arabs) & antisemitic at the same time is beyond me. +

[demikede1]

The Voz de Aztlan claims to speak for immigrants, esp. Latinos, & Latin America was being controlled by imperialist American corporate interests to installed military regimes & cold war aggression (i.e. Pinochet in Chile). VdA calls for complete amnesty for illegal undocumented immigrants being descendants of the same ancient Aztlan empire (the Nahua or Mexica) originated in what is now known as the Four corners region of the western US along with all Mexicans: whether from here or in Mexico .+

[demikede1]

Also the VdA sympathizes with the PLO and its mission statement to denounce Israel as a "racial apartheid" state. The VdA once commented 9/11 doesn't move them the same way the Spanish takeover of Mexico or racial segregation under the US has to Mexican (esp. mestizo, mixed indigenous-European ) peoples. The VdA is hostile towards white people, also racist towards black Americans, endorses radical leftism, some anti-semitsm and dislike non-Latinos who aren't "brown" or of Amerindian descent. +

[nrfrance1]

DEATH TO ZOG

[kslee00310]

actually nazis killed zionists

[steveman03]

nice 8 bit sound efects ya jew



[ExposeZionistCrimes]

The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

As Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University observes, "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was the dreaded security official Rozanski." (N.Y. Review of Books, Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).

[LeseMajeste]

Why not a video about the greatest mass murderer of the 20th Century?

And it's not Hitler, but a Jew by the name of Gengirkh Yagoda, who butchered Russian peasants for Stalin.

[GivenOver]

to comprehend the phony WW2 holocaust claims one must first comprehend the phony biblical "Exodus" story. Judaism exists only because of the many phony atrocity hoaxes that the jewish planners have invented and spread such as The Exodus, Fall of Jerusalem and The Holocaust. Read online the recent LA Times featured article "Doubting The Story Of The Exodus" in which even prestigious jews such as rabbi David Wolpe and professor Ze'ev Herzog admitted that The Exodus story was only a fantasy.

[02524630N]

Other "holocausts" and genocides are being ignored as well. The armenian genocide, p. ej., that was egineered by the young tourks, a cryptojewish organization under the guise of nationalistic turkish reformers.

[TheAntiV]

You care to provide evidence of this "cryptoJewish orgaization" or are you just parroting racist claims?

[02524630N]

I has nothing to do with race or racism. Sorry, I can not help you in your desire and pursuit of feeling offended. I has to do with conspiracies and this is one more episode of a particular cryptojewish organization from Salonika as the record of its members show. The latest episode was Kemal Ataturk himself. There is sufficiente info on the identity of the key players to assert this.

[TheAntiV]

I'm not the one feeling offended. However I can't speak for the people who are.

So this claim of a "crytojewish" organization does sound at least a little bit offensive to you?

[02524630N]

Offensive or not is not the issue. Truth, falsehood, or likelihood is. Look, there are honest italians and there is an italian mafia and the same can be said of other people. You do not want to endore anything and everything a fellow jew or a group of them does.

[TheAntiV]

Fellow Jew? First of all I'm not Jewish, both ethnically or religiously? Second, by assuming that I am Jewish you have already proven my thesis that your wild theories are based on nothing more than ignorance and parroting information you see on the internet.

"there are honest italians and there is an italian mafia and the same can be said of other people. "

True however you ideas of a "crypto Jewish" organization lacks the merit and the evidence of the widely known Italian mafia.

[TheAntiV]

Please, don't pretend you're smart. It's a known fact that when it comes to the scientific method race based conspiracies will always fail.

[02524630N]

I didn't assume it, just guessed it. if you are not jewish you may be a neocon but It doesn't make a bit of a difference what your group of reference is or who you are when it comes to truth, falsehood, or likelihood. Sorry but we, as people, are irrelevant in that respect. Whoever I might be doesn't prove or disporve anything. The internet contains a lot of garbage and a lot of good info. At the end it is a matter of criteria and judgement to separate the chaff from the grain.

[TheAntiV]

So just because I don't agree with your obvious unscientific view of history, that automatically makes me a Jew or a neo-con? Now it's clear you're using an extremist ideology because in your mind I'm either one of those two things or I agree with you. If it's irrelevant then how come you can't help but guess I'm either one of those two things? I'm sorry but it sounds like you're not being honest with yourself.

[02524630N]

Please, stick to the argumental line. It doesn't matter who we are. We may guess for the prupose of anticipating an answer only. Also, there is enough elements in your videoteque to assess you politically. It is not my view of history -again- it is what has been found out by those who studied the period.

[02524630N]

I forgot. What is the extremist ideology I am "using"? Can you label it or describe in terms recognizable by someone with a political education?

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

The holocaust is a HOAX, watch onethirdoftheholocaust, also visit holohoax101com.

Jewish communists murdered tens of millions Christians, also 5 million german pow's were turned into slaves by the allies after ww2. And then there is also all the deaths from both ww1 and ww2, and we can study whose interests both those wars were fought for

[TheAntiV]

EZC, we've already been over this. There's nothing in any of those links that I haven't already refuted. That's why I've been able to debunk all the claims you've been able to bring to the table at other blogs. Stalin hated Jews and communism had nothing to do with Judaism. Only ultra-nationalist leaders claim that their was a link in order to increase their power by exploiting fear.

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

So that is why he married jews and even created a homeland for jews? Anyone can google judaism communism and see the lists of names. Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich Jewish chief mass murderer for Stalin

"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."- Winston Churchill

[TheAntiV]

You mean that dumb in the middle of no where? Between 1936 and 1940, during the Great Purge, Yezhovshchina and in particular after the rapprochement with Nazi Germany, Stalin had largely eliminated Jews from top level party, government, diplomatic, security and military positions in the Soviet Union. fter dismissing Maxim Litvinov as Foreign Minister in 1939, Stalin immediately directed incoming Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov to "purge the ministry of Jews".

[TheAntiV]

According to historian Iakov Etinger, many Soviet state purges of the 1930s were antisemitic in nature, and a more intense antisemitic policy developed toward the end of World War II, Stalin in 1946 allegedly said privately that "every Jew is a potential spy."

Nice fake Winston Churchill quote. Is that all the so-called master race has to offer?

[ExposeZionistCrimes]

Because the jews were the communist party members. They were only a small % of the population, yet they filled the ranks of communism. Communist purges are due to them being paranoid that the lower rank of communist will overthrow them, so they purge the people inside the party, and install new ones. I give you an actual quote, that was in a newspaper, that you can find plenty of scans online of, and you give me an "alleged" quote. That about sums up all your claims.

[TheAntiV]

According to the 1922 party census, there were 19,564 Jewish members of the Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total. Of the 417 Communists who constituted the ruling circles of the Soviet Union in the mid-1920s a mere 27, or just 6%, were ethnic Jews.

[02524630N]

I never said anything regarding any race based conspiracy. However, it is known that within certain groups, ethnicity is a element of cohesion be that, the asian-american mafia or the social network of Madoff. At this level, no deep sicentific investigation is called for but a more basic observation of the current policial and judicial record. Yes, history is made by secret societies like the masons or the carbonaries. Apparently they are not always secret enough in that respect.

[TheAntiV]

First of all Madoff's scam has nothing to do with ethnicity or religion. You're assuming that it does because it follows past negative stereotypes and associations which is a highly UNSCIENTIFIC assessment that lacks merit.

[02524630N]

A lot of his victims as well as his colaborators were a certain social kind of jew. This is not stereotype and the New York Times along with a lot of media has published it.

[TheAntiV]

No you're assuming that that has something to do with it and that is wrong. Who the hell cares if they were Jewish. If the scandal is no way related to what their ethnic background or religious preferences it simple doesn't matter. In fact it doesn't even deserve to be mentioned.

[TheAntiV]

02524630N, thinking you know how the world works just because you did a little "research" over the internet doesn't mean you have a "political education." Unless now professors are teaching their students that there is a secret Jewish conspiracy controlling the world I'd highly doubt what you are saying will be supported by any reasonable person with an education in politics.

[02524630N]

In case you didn't know it, History is a discipline with an established scientific method and conditions. Profesional and academic historians study a certain period by contrasting documents and testimonies as well as organizing inferences and hypothesis. Political pressure, journalistic slopiness, nationalistic outcries, etc... tend to deny or oppose either data or historians conclusions and most often both.

[demikede1]

@02524630N Correct. The vid's author is the Voz de Aztlan, the Mexican-American movement calls for the end of US rule and reconquest of the Southwestern parts of the country for either Mexicans or Latinos whose presence predates the treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo of 1848 when the US acquired formerly Spanish or Mexican land. The VdA compare themselves to Palestinians, as well the world's "colonized" peoples under European rulers in the last 500 years, esp. indigenous Mexicans or US-born Chicanos .+