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Great video however the music is too loud. It is much louder than the talking. Had to keep turning it up then down. The music is good, just WAY too LOUD.
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I look at these videos from the past, and I still can not fathom why the media and the left are convince that Ron Paul would not make a good president. And it breaks my heart knowing that their votes effect everybody and they can't seem to grasp it. Even republicans have fallen with their belief that Governor Romney is the ticket out of these issues. Sure, he give great speeches and is well groomed but I have seen those previous speeches before... America, don't get hoodwinked. Ron Paul 2012 !!
@strke4ce Because the media is controlled by special interests. Mainly the people destroying our country. Go look up who owns the media and the Federal Reserve. Down the rabbit hole you go!
@Carryon871 They (the media) could not even hide it well. I could care less about special interest groups. It's all about the tax dollars or should I say someone else's money. I don't even know if it is worth it anymore to watch those news organizations, with the exception of Judge Napolitano and Stossel. Oh, but I guess I am being too bias for being right. =)
Let it be understood - There IS authority to wage war against Iraq since congress DID approve it. The people DID approve of us going to war with Iraq. But just like every other liberal and Paul supporter, they changed their minds later. But what commercial intrests did we go to war over? It wasn't oil. So what was it? About Pakistan, we were trying to make an ally. We had no idea they'd side with China and terrorists. This entire video is made out of stupidity.
@TwinSmoke do you even follow politics? or have you ever opened a history book..because based on your statement it doesnt seem so. How can you say Iraq wasnt about oil? When the former CEO of Haliburton was Dick Cheney (vice president) oh what a coincedence..and do some research on Haliburton and KBR and there no bid contracts in Iraq. These foreign wars ALL OF THEM are about corporate interests with a fear-mongering idea of terrorism overlay!
@msullivan85 This just shows your ignorance. We were in Iraq for 10 years and didn't cyphon a single drop of oil. While I'll admit, it would have made gas prices cheaper. And do your RESEARCH. Haliburton got the contract because they were the lowest bidder. It is "coincedence" that they got the contract. Made me laugh though when you asked me if I've ever opened a history book LOL. And I've been following politics for over 15 years closely. Any other questions?
@TwinSmoke actually Haliburton got the contract because they were the only bidder you dumb shit...2nd biggest company of its kind and the biggest didnt get to bid. And who cares who it happened! Hmm Vice President Dick Cheney former Ceo of Haliburton and KBR (directly profits from war) goes to war with Iraq and Afghanistan...If you don't see any coincedence there then fuck off im not wasting my time.
@TwinSmoke HA!! 15 years huh? so you've been following politics for that long and you can't recognize that the system is broken..it doesnt matter anymore republican, democrat, its all the same unless Ron Paul is elected...think of it he's always been called "different" and "radical"..WELL THATS TRUELY NEEDED...true change back to small government. I can't believe you would need a lesson on the Constitution after studying politics that long. Now I understand why you're stupid, been in it too long
@msullivan85 Every one of your posts reeks of adolescence. You constantly sound like a child. However, Paul won't win anything. I've watched every single GoP debate. All I've seen is Paul get boo'd a total of 4 times in 2 different debates. The American people obviously don't want what he has to offer which is why he placed 4th in South Carolina. Paul's fiscal policies are to the right but on every single other issue, he is to the left. You and Paul are both idiots.
@msullivan85 Every one of your posts reeks of adolescence. You constantly sound like a child. However, Paul won't win anything. I've watched every single GoP debate. All I've seen is Paul get boo'd a total of 4 times in 2 different debates. The American people obviously don't want what he has to offer which is why he placed 4th in South Carolina. Paul's fiscal policies are to the right but on every single other issue, he is to the left. You and Paul are both idiots.
@TwinSmoke lol every one of your posts reeks of some old, pathetic, brainwashed, drone whos IQ is obviously below 100, and who is incabable of rational thought. Our government and mainstream media are manipulated you brick. All the signs are there, and yet people are too stupid to think for themselves and just believe everything there told instead of doing research. One day, long time from now when you are forced to live every aspect of your life a certain way, maybe you will wake up.
@msullivan85 Trying to insult my IQ is a defense mechanism. It's what people do when they lose a debate. No worries, I'm used to it. By the way Mr. Ignorant, I don't even watch the news unless it's a debate that's on. There's a debate tonight by the way. I doubt you'll watch that one either. It's very apparant you don't have a CLUE as to what's going on. Or it's just your version of voluntary ignorance.
@TwinSmoke You fucking idiot...look at your previous post...what is the exact thing you did to me first...did you just forget "reeks of adolescense" "child". You have constantly avoided everypoint ive made by by spouting bullshit about how informed we may or may not be (are you a politician?)...anybody who has study even a little bit of history know our government is absolutely corrupt at every level. Thats the point and you don't want to see it
@TwinSmoke I don't care what he left or right on moron and you shouldnt either...we are at a point where if we don't start strictly looking at and following the Constitution and what our founding fathers said about government, we are facing down the road complete authoritarianism. I will take a while but it will be implemented slowly...Mr. political expert over here should at least be able to see the signs and groundwork (NDAA, Patriot Act) (SOPA and PIPA tyring to be passd)
@TwinSmoke also very glad to see you've made such a difference in the 15 years of Study...when somehow, history keeps repeating itself...Next illegal war, IRAN. It stops now.
Ron Paul denies evolution and global warming, as well as contradicts his own libertarian stance by supporting Don't Ask, Don't Tell. I mean, it's okay to have ideological differences such as believing that social support programs such as universal health care are not a good idea, but when you start denying *scientific facts* and start displaying your homophobia, your bid for Presidency is seriously compromised among intellectuals of any stripe.
RP wants to return the US to the gold standard? How about returning to the card system while he's at it? Those new-fangled computers have too much spam anyway.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Put this in perspective, Ron Pauls Prediction of the Crash happened many years later but it did happen Exactly as he said it would using Austrian Economics', Now Ron Paul and Peter Schiff along with all Austrian Economists are predicting Runaway inflation which will happen because it has too, The Fed has expanded the money supply many times over which means every time you double the money supply every dollar loses 50%value (technically) but it takes time to catch up.
@ANTICARBONTAX - You talk about inflation. Are you aware of Germany? There was hyperinflation in 1923. Wheelbarrows of cash etc. OK. A decade later, German policy makers were still worried about inflation, in completely different economic circumstances. Because of 1923, no stimulus. You-know-who came to power in Germany. Massive arms build-up, kick-starting the economy. Right now, the US, with 10% unemployment, is getting like Germany in the 1930s, not 1923. It needs another FDR.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Look im in over my head talking about economic's let's face it. All I know is Ron Paul exactly predicted the crash/how and why before anyone. Krugman gave an option that it "may" crash and that's not good enough, But anyways who will you vote for?
@ANTICARBONTAX - THAT is hilarious! I should've guessed from your name. Here I was, picturing you as tapping away at your computer in the US somewhere. No, I actually think the carbon tax is a step forward. Why are you so against it?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb That's a long and painful debate that I have had hundreds of times over the years with "believers" and ussally ends up with me citing peer reviewed Science and they cite concencus and noone wins really, But the biggest eye opener for me is when I took one look at the Robert Berner GEOCARB models/Temperature after C.R. Scotese graphs (Peer reveiwed) HADCRUT3 satelite/gathered data and CO2 doesn't seem to play the pertual warming(tipping Point) they say it does.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Although there's no debate that yes co2 does correlate with the planets temperature but how much it correlates has become the huge issue, For example from those graphs I linked you will notice that the Ordovician period we had roughly 12-14 times the amount of co2 in the earth atmosphere yet we had an Ice age for millions of years start and finish, the little correlation doesn't end there(medieval warm period ect).
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Veteran meteorologist/astrophysicist Pier Corbyn who has the Highest long range(over a year out sometimes) climate predictions in the world(95%on land 90% worldwide) uses astrophysics and it's study of the sun/sun spots/solar winds ect believes the real planets temperature driver has always been the sun, He predicted to the day the end of the Russian heat wave (sorry Al Gore permafrost Refroze), the Pakistan floods, Highest Prediction rate means he understands climate most
@ANTICARBONTAX - Well, you defer to the experts on economics, so, you're saying that the ANU, Sydney Uni, Melb Uni, Oxford, Cam, Harvard etc - they're all part of some huge conspiracy, when their climate wise guys say climate change is real?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb So she's saying that even thought there has been a huge increase to CO2 mainly due to china/India huge economic expansion in the same 10 year period, the warming has slowed down but wait I thought co2 was the main driver of the planets temperature how can it slow down if co2 is added in huge quantities? Simple answer it can't If CO2 is the main driver.
No there has been climate change on earth for the last 4.54 billion years (earth birth) and it's not going to stop tomorrow
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "ANU, Sydney Uni, Melb Uni, Oxford, Cam, Harvard" all 1) get new huge Climate Grants(money), Want to see if I'm lying about a conspiracy Look up NASA sued over changing historical temperature data to show a warming where there was no warming, also got caught here in Aus changing outback temps by our own meteorologists, Why would NASA do that you ask? 6 BILLION a year in new climate grants while shutting down there air and space funding. Simple answer politics and Money.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Just to give you a heads up regardless wether you look into this or not, Piers Corbyn who doesn't believe Co2 is the main driver of the planets temperature who I spoke of earlier (90% prediction long range) has predicted a global cooling trend will now start for the next 24 years so see what happens but don't worry the "Global Warmists" will just turn around and say "global cooling just proves were right" lol Just remember me telling you this, they will spin it for money.
@ANTICARBONTAX - Aarghh. I gotta' add. Have you considered that fossil fuel companies might, just might, have a conspiracy of their own? A massive, coordinated disinformation campaign targeted at people who have a distrust of universities like ANU, Sydney Uni etc?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb They have already started spinning it by changing their term from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" and there already straying from the whole "It's getting so hot" to "OMG look how many disasters are happening" If your in Australia then you know that so far we have gone through the coldest summer of 50 years and again that was predicted by Piers Corbyn over a year ago about the 24 year cooling trend starting now. see what happens mate and how they spin it.
@ANTICARBONTAX - Um, you're not in Victoria or South Australia, I take it (particularly when the bushfires happened)? Or up in North Qld last summer when Yasi happened, or in Europe when they're having more extreme winters or ... OK ... I give up. If you're a conspiracy theorist, I don't think argument is going to get us far. Try to imagine that not everyone who disagrees with you is part of the conspiracy or hates you, and Happy New Year.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb You can just look up Australia over all coldest summer in 50 years. I gave you the peer reviewed science but your simply calling me a conspiracy theorist without looking at it? There whole "global warming theory" Revolves around 30 years of data that's it, they tell people "don't look at anything before that". Plus you did exacly what I said you would, argue "concensus" without looking at the evidence yourself. Einstein stated Science is NEVER done by consensus.
@ANTICARBONTAX - Hey, it is NOT the peer reviewed science. The peer reviewed science is unanimous. People like Andrew Bolt, a convicted liar, argue the contrary. I also argue consensus without looking at the evidence myself, when some people argue that the Earth is the centre of the universe.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Under the current theory of "global Warming" basically CO2 is the main driver of the planets temp, an increase of co2 means a increase of temp always(which is true But co2 is only a mild driver of the planets temp, main is the sun of course) So with 100 years of man adding co2 and co2 being the main driver it should be impossible for Europe to break 100 year cold records and Australia to break 50 year cold summer records because CO2 is only going up not down, make sense?
@ANTICARBONTAX you know that ron paul supports the finding the global warming right? But does not agree with how extreme people make out the case to be. He's words are "we'll you'd be stupid not to think that humanity with 9 billion people on earth haven't played a role in the change of the earth"
That said we basically agree, but don't be so black and white about it.
@trentonx I stated quite clearly that adding co2 will increase the earths temperature that's a scientific fact but as we know from peer reviewed science co2 is only a very small driver of the planets temp, Ron Paul also stated allot of the same scientist's pushing global warming now are the same scientist's that pushed global cooling/ice age 40 years ago. He stated he feels that yes man has played a role but no it's not to the extreme allot are saying.
@ANTICARBONTAX - How come you quote the peer reviewed science, but won't name the journals, or acknowledge that thousands of scientists participate in and endorse the ICCP findings? Good on you for batting so hard for what you believe in, but, with respect, you're being used by the big end of town. As much as scientists have those silly white coats and pocket protectors, they're doing the right thing in standing up against climate change, despite funding and other threats.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb IPCC is funded by governments, governments love taxes. this is very simple, there theory is co2 is the main driver of the planets temp(not the sun but co2) then increasing co2 for the atmosphere means increased planets temps always, under that theory the rate of warming should only increase, Not slow down like it has done. Winters shouldn't be colder than 100years ago nor summers, so you must ask yourself why isn't it happening?
@ANTICARBONTAX - Piers Corbyn. His Wikipedia doesn't look good when it says that he tries to censor publications about him. Where has he published on global warming?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Piers Corbyn doesn't publish that I know of, but he does have the highest long range predictions in the world which means that he can read/understand the climate better than anyone in the world. He also predicted the record breaking euro winters and NY cold snap and at both times he was laughed at until people died but now they listen, The Euro cold records under the"Global warming" theory should be impossible, "If" an increase in co2 means an increase in the planets temp.
@ANTICARBONTAX - OK. If PC doesn't publish, one has to ask why. Why, if everyone people are now listening to him, isn't he getting published? Increases in co2 could mean more extreme temperatures, as in Europe, from the little I know about the subject.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "co2 could mean more extreme temperatures, as in Europe, from the little I know about the subject"
there saying co2 increases the planets temp and is the main driver of the planets temp (Global Warming) , not decreases the temp but increases therefore it's impossible under there own theory to say that cold winters breaking 100 year records is because of co2 that causes heat, you can't have it both ways either co2 increases the planets temp (like they say) or it doesn't.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb I don't like Wikipedia TBH I have found allot of their information wrong over the years, so I really can't trust it.
I mean we had ice ages that lasted millions of years with 14 times the amount of co2 in the earths atmosphere, If you believed in global warming not only would any ice age be impossible the earth should look like mars now.
DO you really believe that co2(gas) heats the planet more than the SUN(GIANT BALL OF FIRE) because that's there theory.Crazy Right?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb History of scientific Consensus= Surgeon general in USA coming out telling everyone that smoking was not only harmless it was good for you and pregnant mothers should smoke FACT, Paid off by tobacco companies and government cigarette taxes. For every Lead in fuel harmful paper there was 10 lead in fuel is harmless papers again big oil and Government 50%tax. Global warming paid for by carbon trading banks, big oil(crush small oil companies) and governments pushing new taxes.
@ANTICARBONTAX - "Exxon to cut funding to climate change denial groups" (Guardian June 08), "Exxon still aids climate sceptics" (The Aus, July 2010), "BP and Shell warned to halt campaign against US climate change bill" (Guard, Aug 09). There's big money in climate change denial - "How can climate change denialism be explained?" ABC, Dec 2011.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Type into Google "NASA sued for changing climate data" and pick any paper or video interview with the scientists suing them for changing data to show a warming where there wasn't one. Ask yourself why NASA would stoop to that level if the information on global warming was correct? Why change data? Is it possible the 6 billion a year in new government "climate science" grants was the reason? ICCP gets huge climate funding as well from governments which love taxes
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb To me global warming is manmade science is just more tobacco or lead in fuel science, they all had "scientific consensus" although they were paid off to protect already in place taxes, Global warming is manmade science imposes a new tax, So what happens when a person produces a full electric cheap car, do you really believe the government will get behind it with billions of tax money at stake if that car is released? Once a billion dollar tax is in place they will protect it
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Let's forget the science for one sec and look up Ken lay and Al gore trying to implement a company trading in sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxide, after this was squashed,Al gore then set his sights on trading in Carbon dioxide and released that horror movie,So now you have a tax that the Un's world bank takes a big chunk of, Plus you have all the banks now making record profits trading in carbon credits while reducing 0%emissions,Surprisingly ABC did a story on this problem
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Since the 1970s, the long-term rate of global warming has been around 0.16C a decade but that slowed in the last 10 years to between 0.05C - 0.13C depending on which of the three major temperature record series are used even though 5%Co2 worldwide(25%manmade)increase in the same 10year period
Vicky Pope, head of climate science advice, said: 'The warming trend has decreased slightly(that's alot). There's still a warming trend but it's not as rapid as it was before
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Robert Berner GEOCARB models/Temperature after C.R. Scotese graphs (Scientific Peer reviewed FACT) HADCRUT3 satellite/gathered data? Are you saying satellite data is a lie as well?
I happy for you to argue me but please don't call peer reviewed science not peer reviewed. Andrew Bolt? I'm linking satellite data/ reviewed data and your linking me to that guy?
Look I get it you have your new faith in"global Warming" based on consensus and that's ok most are until they look
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Now when it does catch up just like the crash caught up to the housing inflation but it took 6 years, Krugman is just doing what all media did when Ron Paul and Peter Schiff Predicted the housing crash in 2002, calling them wrong and it will never happen ect.
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OK, and you, Anticarbontax, were right and I was wrong about the NDAA. The mainstream media completely missed it - "The NDAA's historic assault on American liberty", London Guardian, 2 Jan 2012. I still don't think Obama's that bad, and I want to hear more, but it looks very, very dodgy, particularly that he signed it while everyone else was at their New Year's Eve parties.
I read this but all it states is how wrong Paul (repeated a few times) is about Runaway Inflation because it hasn't happened "yet", He also explains that there has been Inflation in the same article, Ron Paul was correct about the Inflation but it just hasn't sky rocketed yet, I noticed he mentioned Peter Schiff in the same article, Peter Schiff and Ron Paul both Predicted the crash years before Krugman and that's why Krugman is mad.
@ANTICARBONTAX - No, fact is, Krugman predicted the US could crash, back in 1999, in his book on depression economics. Hey, the B52s predicted a "market crash" back in 1990. Doesn't mean they're experts like Krugman is- search on You Tube for "B52s", "Channel Z" and look at 2:44.
where he praised quantitative easing which as we all know now had bad effects to the economy long term= quick boost then crash just like the fed.
"The simple fact is that we have a global excess supply of savings, which is doing terrible things to workers. The reasonable thing is to do something about it; it’s deeply unreasonable, and deeply irresponsible, to invent reasons not to act because you’re clinging to simplistic slogans."
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb After reading "Conscience of a liberal" by Krugman I'm sorry I have changed my mind about him he is not a good economist at all, "Quantitative Easing" is basically the Fed creating huge amounts of money out of thin air and then buying up what they can but it also means massively expanding the money supply which mean eventual hyperinflation/devaluation which is what Ron Paul/Austrian economists predict,Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is either silly or told to say it.
@ANTICARBONTAX - Sorry, Ron Paul/Austrians predict eventual hyperinflation/devaluation. It ain't necessarily so. Ron Paul and Peter Schiff's prediction of runaway inflation has not happened yet, describe the conditions they specified, being satisfied. Therefore they are wrong. If your model is found to not match the facts, you need a new model, methinks. No?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "US could crash" Isn't good enough considering he gave no detail like Ron Paul did into exactly why it did, just saying "hay this could happen" compared to Ron Pauls "this will happen and here's exactly why it will happen" It's like a mechanic saying "your car may crash it may not" compared to "your car will crash and it's because your brakes have been cut" Who would you trust in the future? Plus Krugman thought Quantitative Easing was a good idea lol he was wrong big time.
OK, I watched your video for 3m 14s, and then it got hard to hear the voices over the music. Ron Paul really does seem to have integrity, and he predicted the housing bubble would pop. Full credit for that. But what does he propose? Small government? When you've got an alternative, Big Brother government already there, on Wall St? If I can ask you to read Krugman's newest piece (just for 3m 14s at least!) - "Nobody Understands Debt". Go on. You know you want to. He writes really well.
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I'm RACIST for criticizing Obama, a TERRORIST because I'm against the Bush wars, ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Israel unconditionally, a TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution, a TRUTHER for asking unanswered questions, a TRAITOR for whistle-blowing on my corrupt government artocites, a CONSPIRACY THEORIST for presenting documented facts, a TROLL for uploading news, videos, and quotes, and ANTI-AMERICAN for supporting a Constitutionalist like Dr. Ron Paul.
@LordWellington15 - Reagan turned the US from the world's biggest creditor nation, into the world's biggest debtor nation. WAY TO GO, RONNIE! And Ron Paul would do the same? And you're saying that's a good thing?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Are you saying that big government is a good thing? Are you saying that a few people in Washington should control the lives of all Americans?
@LordWellington15 - When Wall St crashed the US and world economy in 1929, and FDR stepped up to the plate and created the welfare state to feed people them jobs, yes big govt was a good thing. When the Nazis started WW2, and the US Govt led the fight back, yes big govt was a good thing. When Hurricane Katrina hit, big govt WOULD have been a good thing, rather than Brad Pitt and his friends having to save New Orleans. Now, to stop Wall St, big govt is needed again.
The people who fear Ron Paul; the ones who are slandering his name are the same people who run things in this country. They slander him because he represents a following more informed than them. Ron Paul doesn't like corrupt criminals sending our kids to war "preemptively." This is not a losing political argument. People are not this stupid anymore. War persists as a result of our own delusion that it needs to. We teach children to share with one another, yet we live in perpetual war.
america is doing everything wrong the world now see's it as an enemy. you cant can't change the world by force, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
america is doing everything wrong the world now see's it as an enemy. you cant can't change the world by force, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
The lack of diversity in candidates means there are a lot of passionate Ron Paul supporters. But I don't understand why many social liberals support him:
He's right about US foreign policy: It is morally and financially bankrupt. It is intrusive or even imperialistic. And morality aside it's simply too expensive.
His views on social freedoms (abortion, drugs, etc) are spot on.
But his inegalitarian socio-economic views are horrendous.
He's a libertarian, but he's not a social liberal.
@SHITCREEKSURVIVOR Oh thank god some one who has evidence and is not just sprowting properganda please post the clip of Ron saying anything that would back that up I can't seem to find any with any of the other Ron Paul haters.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "New York Times" thats your source? Your kidding right? That's basically the banker daily ofcourse they think he's extreme because he is trying to stop them from fucking people like you over by holding them accountable for there actions.
@ANTICARBONTAX - The Times still publishes Paul Krugman. He tries to hold the bankers and the GOP accountable, he tries to hold Obama accountable, and he tries to hold Ron Paul accountable. Ron Paul is not the answer. Elisabeth Warren from Mass. could do a lot more than him. She's not a racist, and she's really smart. Good on you for hanging crap on greedy bankers, though.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "The Times still publishes Paul Krugman. He tries to hold the bankers and the GOP accountable, he tries to hold Obama accountable, and he tries to hold Ron Paul accountable"
Paul Krugman of the banker daily tries to hold Ron Paul accountable for what exactly? Warning everyone the housing bubble was going to colapse years before? or Warning everyone that you can't just bail out banker pieces of shit that caused the crash in the first place? He tried so hard to warn everyone
@ANTICARBONTAX - I think I generally agree with your assessment of bankers. Krugman tries to hold Paul accountable for not knowing basis economics, and yet claiming he does.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1)It's not a campain video its old c-span footage proving he predicted exactly what was going to happen many years before it did and I urge you to at least watch the video so you can understand my side please because if someone predicted exactly whats going to happen economically then he understands economics better than all people who didn't see it comming and that's just a fact. 2)Sorry Murdoch owns the NY Post not Times my bad.
@ANTICARBONTAX - No worries. Murdoch is doing bad things, so, if you're hanging crap on those things, more power to ya! I don't doubt that Mr Paul predicted financial catastrophe, but I gotta' say many people did. It's just that Mr Bush, and yes, the people now working for Mr Obama and doing NOTHING about the Securities Exchange Commission making dodgy fraud settlement deals with Citigroup (see Matt Tiabbi at Rolling Stone), refused to hear it. You deserve better than Ron Paul.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Ron Paul did more than anyone ever did, maybe you should go back and watch "The amazingly accurate predictions of Ron Paul..listen 'till the end and you'll be shocked!" video and then lets talk about holding Ron Paul Accountable my friend
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Obama could have vetoed TARP (Banker Bailouts) but didn't thus supporting it. The debt level is the biggest problem in the US economy and if you think otherwise then you're a fool that will go down with the ship because very soon the US wont be able to even pay the Interest on the Chinese Loan which will mean a DEFAULT which means the US dollar won't be World reserve currency, which means US dollar then will massively plug to nothing, it's basic economics.
@ANTICARBONTAX - Krugman argues that, in the real world, govt will bail out the banks. The real problem is that the govt did not also bail out mortage holders, and stop the shadow banks from getting into that bad place in the first place. Jobs, not debt, is the biggest problem in the US economy. The markets know that. They react when Mr Obama looks at addressing jobs. They don't react when he mistakenly looked at debt. He's finally realising that, and is about to focus on jobs.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Rupert Murdoch Seems to be your favorite source and it's completely obvious that he doesn't want Ron Paul to be President judging from every lying piece of shit media outlet he owns bashes Ron Paul, Do you really want to get your information from someone who allowed/protected his media outlet to hack the phone of a dead school girl and make the police think shes still alive just to get an ongoing story happening?
@ANTICARBONTAX - I'm quoting the NY Times and you say Murdoch is my favourite source? Murdoch is not my favourite source. You're aware that Murdoch doesn't own the NY Times?
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb BTW It was Rupert Murdoch's outlet that called Ron Paul pessimist for these predictions just like they called "Peter Schiff" a pessimist and "gloom and doom" forcaster (laughing at him) for backing Ron Pauls Statements with his own prediction of the housing bubble/crash years before it happened, along with "bailing out the banks was bad idea that would do nothing but futher the problem" So you need to be careful who you believe, "Fool me once" situtation here
@ANTICARBONTAX - Good on Ron Paul for making those predictions. Not so good on Ron Paul for the racist things he's said, and for not knowing economics, when he has enormous power.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb From Slate? Give me a break! Why not just ask the DoD if they like RON PAUL proposed cessation of military global intervention? RON PAUL's message, liberty, freedom, and fiscal responsibility is NOT extreme, nor are his positions on anything else!
@FreeinTX ... Um, no connection between Slate and the DoD. Try responding to the points raised in the article, if you actually want to have a debate, rather than just SHOUTING in BIG CAPITAL LETTERS. Paul is extremist, and you'll find that too if you bother to look.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb RON PAUL is not an extremist. You can't get 24 YEARS in congress as an extremist. You can't get to be the ranking member of the banking subcommittee as an extremist, and you certainly wouldn't have been able to accurately predict the collapse of the housing market and the default swap scam.
Extremism is the NDAA and the TSA (backed by the US Army) with their hands down our pants at the Superbowl! THAT is extremism! RON PAUL IS AGAINST EXTREMISTS!
@FreeinTX - Look at what the GOP and the Democrats have done to the US economy, from within the US presidency and Congress. Extremists are in power now, and Ron Paul is part of that system. There are good guys within Congress, and Mr Obama negotiated the anti-nuke treaty with the Russians, and it looks like he might be changing to save jobs rather than worry about debt. If you get an expert economist, like Paul Krugman, to look at Ron Paul's economics, you'll see that RP is extremist.
Well link where Paul Krugman told the people that the economic crash was coming before Ron Paul did, If he's such an expert then you should have no problem producing an article in 2001 or before with that fact. Obama is the worst president in US history, He has passed LAW that states anyone can be killed if he feels like it(NDAA bill), Expanded the wars with one hand while receiving the Noble Peace Prize lol.
@ANTICARBONTAX - Hi. You can't link on YouTube, but Google "That Hissing Sound is Krugman" August 8, 2005. I'm not defending Mr Obama, I think he's in the pocket of Wall St, and he should be out of Afghanistan, let alone getting out of Iraq sooner, but he has done some good things. I don't know about the NDAA bill, but a few more specifics would be good before you make a claim like that. Cheers.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "Hi. You can't link on YouTube, but Google "That Hissing Sound is Krugman" August 8, 2005" Well that is a good article but I'm Sorry to tell you that Paul predicted it in september 6th 2001 so that means Krugman jumped on the Ron Paul Bandwagon 4 years later abd I assume people told Krugman this fact after the article so naturally he has a vendetta for being shown up by Ron Paul. Sorry but this Proves Krugman is only a shadow of Ron Pauls economic understanding.
@ANTICARBONTAX - Thanks for the acknowledgement, and it looks like you win, in terms of Ron Paul predicting a crash before Krugman. But back in 1999, Krugman published "The return of depression economics", saying that depression was still possible. I still question whether Krugman, a Nobel Prize-winning academic who thrice weekly takes on every hostile economist, and wins, has a poorer understanding of economics than Mr Paul. But hey, this isn't "my superhero v your superhero".
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb I'm not saying Krugman isn't a great economist (he is actually after I just read the article you linked) I'm simply saying for Ron Paul (not an economist) to understand exactly what was going to happen so perfectly just by studying the history of the fed bubble cycles just like Krugman does, so it seems, that the article shows that Krugman and Ron Paul have very similar views on economics and the Fed's involvement. I'm actually surprised you don't like Ron Paul more.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Not to take anything away from Krugman but after Obama got the "Nobel Peace Prize" while expanding the wars gives me absolutely no faith in the Nobel prize. Seems you can just buy one these days, sad really. Ron Paul understands economics better than any politician I have ever seen and he has numerous correct economic predictions to back that up.If Ron Paul can come to the same exact conclusion as Krugman but 4 years before, doesn't that make you think wow he does understand
@ANTICARBONTAX - Thanks for reading the Krugman piece. Can I suggest one more piece, which sets out his criticism of Mr Paul? (There are many.) It's "G.O.P. Monetary Madness" Dec 15, 2011. He shows that Mr Paul has often been wrong on economics, his specialty. Mr Obama got the Nobel a bit early, because, I think, the Committee wanted to help him against Washington hawks, and maybe pressure him to do the right thing (and his nuke peace treaty with Russia probably helped). You can't just buy one.
All I know is there's a million dead in Iraq mostly kids and that was over WMD's that didn't exist, The war with Afghanistan was to find Osama but we all know it wasn't there main priority and that's hundreds of thousands dead there mostly kids again, Does that sound like something a Nobel Peace Prize should be? That's my opinion
@ANTICARBONTAX - Spot on. But Obama HAS got the US out of Iraq (although he should probably tax Halliburton and the rest, to help the Iraqiis rebuild economically). Hey, if Ron Paul is not going to attack Iran, he's the best Republican candidate - Good luck in Iowa.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb You know I took the time to read your linked articles so I think it's only fair you watch my link, I know you don't want to be proved wrong but I think sometimes we need to, so it can open our eyes. What Ron Paul predicted took 4 more years before Krugman could understand.
"I don't know about the NDAA bill" not many do because the media barely talked about it but it's the most dangerous law that ever existed.
Mr Obama is doing what he always did adding to the debt.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Ron Paul was a Doctor at the time he lent his name to that paper and as you can understand if you have ever met a doctor they work incredibly long hours even more if your delivering babies because sometimes labour can go for days and he can't leave her, so the fact you think someone can actually write a newsletter on doctors hours is ridiculous, Secondly Ron Paul Voted for Dr Martin Luther King Day in 1979 which is the exact opposite a Racist would do. Newt Voted against it
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 - RON PAUL is NOT "part of the system." The "system" calls him Dr. NO! for a reason!
2- The anti-nuke treaty did NOTHING to make the world safer, in fact just the opposite. Both the US and Russia have enough nukes to destroy the planet, that hasn't changed.
3- Paul Krugman failed to see the coming collapse, as the award winning economist Dr. RON PAUL did. And Krugman is a TOTAL IDIOT on his view that only government can spend money to save us.
@FreeinTX - RP is a Member of US House Reps. Sounds like part of system to me, but I can concede he's against it. See Doonesbury, 28 Jan 2012. The anti-nuke actually did limit a whole lot of nukes, although it's true that the US and Russia still have far too many nukes. As for Krugman, he wrote "The Return of Depression Economics" back in 1999. Spending money is how govts got out of the Great Depression. Your using CAPITAL LETTERS and abusing Krugman doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 - Extremism is bailing out BANKSTERS with over $30 TRILLION and demanding more, waging undeclared wars with several countries on the other side of the planet while we are in the midst of the greatest depression ever, and passing the NDAA, which legalized MILITARY on the streets of America to enforce laws, and allowing them to abduct, torture, and even kill Americans without charges being filed, or trails being held. THAT is extremism!
Doonesbury. January 28 2012.
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@Aelius79 so your basically saying a person with a religious belief isn't fit for office. Well Fuck You.
MattsPolitics1 2 weeks ago
I look at these videos from the past, and I still can not fathom why the media and the left are convince that Ron Paul would not make a good president. And it breaks my heart knowing that their votes effect everybody and they can't seem to grasp it. Even republicans have fallen with their belief that Governor Romney is the ticket out of these issues. Sure, he give great speeches and is well groomed but I have seen those previous speeches before... America, don't get hoodwinked. Ron Paul 2012 !!
strke4ce 2 weeks ago
@strke4ce Because the media is controlled by special interests. Mainly the people destroying our country. Go look up who owns the media and the Federal Reserve. Down the rabbit hole you go!
Carryon871 1 week ago
@Carryon871 They (the media) could not even hide it well. I could care less about special interest groups. It's all about the tax dollars or should I say someone else's money. I don't even know if it is worth it anymore to watch those news organizations, with the exception of Judge Napolitano and Stossel. Oh, but I guess I am being too bias for being right. =)
strke4ce 1 week ago
Let it be understood - There IS authority to wage war against Iraq since congress DID approve it. The people DID approve of us going to war with Iraq. But just like every other liberal and Paul supporter, they changed their minds later. But what commercial intrests did we go to war over? It wasn't oil. So what was it? About Pakistan, we were trying to make an ally. We had no idea they'd side with China and terrorists. This entire video is made out of stupidity.
TwinSmoke 2 weeks ago
@TwinSmoke do you even follow politics? or have you ever opened a history book..because based on your statement it doesnt seem so. How can you say Iraq wasnt about oil? When the former CEO of Haliburton was Dick Cheney (vice president) oh what a coincedence..and do some research on Haliburton and KBR and there no bid contracts in Iraq. These foreign wars ALL OF THEM are about corporate interests with a fear-mongering idea of terrorism overlay!
msullivan85 4 days ago
@msullivan85 This just shows your ignorance. We were in Iraq for 10 years and didn't cyphon a single drop of oil. While I'll admit, it would have made gas prices cheaper. And do your RESEARCH. Haliburton got the contract because they were the lowest bidder. It is "coincedence" that they got the contract. Made me laugh though when you asked me if I've ever opened a history book LOL. And I've been following politics for over 15 years closely. Any other questions?
TwinSmoke 4 days ago
@TwinSmoke actually Haliburton got the contract because they were the only bidder you dumb shit...2nd biggest company of its kind and the biggest didnt get to bid. And who cares who it happened! Hmm Vice President Dick Cheney former Ceo of Haliburton and KBR (directly profits from war) goes to war with Iraq and Afghanistan...If you don't see any coincedence there then fuck off im not wasting my time.
msullivan85 4 days ago
@TwinSmoke HA!! 15 years huh? so you've been following politics for that long and you can't recognize that the system is broken..it doesnt matter anymore republican, democrat, its all the same unless Ron Paul is elected...think of it he's always been called "different" and "radical"..WELL THATS TRUELY NEEDED...true change back to small government. I can't believe you would need a lesson on the Constitution after studying politics that long. Now I understand why you're stupid, been in it too long
msullivan85 4 days ago
@msullivan85 Every one of your posts reeks of adolescence. You constantly sound like a child. However, Paul won't win anything. I've watched every single GoP debate. All I've seen is Paul get boo'd a total of 4 times in 2 different debates. The American people obviously don't want what he has to offer which is why he placed 4th in South Carolina. Paul's fiscal policies are to the right but on every single other issue, he is to the left. You and Paul are both idiots.
TwinSmoke 4 days ago
@msullivan85 Every one of your posts reeks of adolescence. You constantly sound like a child. However, Paul won't win anything. I've watched every single GoP debate. All I've seen is Paul get boo'd a total of 4 times in 2 different debates. The American people obviously don't want what he has to offer which is why he placed 4th in South Carolina. Paul's fiscal policies are to the right but on every single other issue, he is to the left. You and Paul are both idiots.
TwinSmoke 4 days ago
@TwinSmoke lol every one of your posts reeks of some old, pathetic, brainwashed, drone whos IQ is obviously below 100, and who is incabable of rational thought. Our government and mainstream media are manipulated you brick. All the signs are there, and yet people are too stupid to think for themselves and just believe everything there told instead of doing research. One day, long time from now when you are forced to live every aspect of your life a certain way, maybe you will wake up.
msullivan85 3 days ago
@msullivan85 Trying to insult my IQ is a defense mechanism. It's what people do when they lose a debate. No worries, I'm used to it. By the way Mr. Ignorant, I don't even watch the news unless it's a debate that's on. There's a debate tonight by the way. I doubt you'll watch that one either. It's very apparant you don't have a CLUE as to what's going on. Or it's just your version of voluntary ignorance.
TwinSmoke 3 days ago
@TwinSmoke You fucking idiot...look at your previous post...what is the exact thing you did to me first...did you just forget "reeks of adolescense" "child". You have constantly avoided everypoint ive made by by spouting bullshit about how informed we may or may not be (are you a politician?)...anybody who has study even a little bit of history know our government is absolutely corrupt at every level. Thats the point and you don't want to see it
msullivan85 3 days ago
@TwinSmoke you are used to having people tell you your IQ is less than 100? maybe you should listen to them...
msullivan85 3 days ago
@msullivan85 ROFL. Let's not get into IQ's because I'll just make you look dumb.
TwinSmoke 3 days ago
@TwinSmoke I don't care what he left or right on moron and you shouldnt either...we are at a point where if we don't start strictly looking at and following the Constitution and what our founding fathers said about government, we are facing down the road complete authoritarianism. I will take a while but it will be implemented slowly...Mr. political expert over here should at least be able to see the signs and groundwork (NDAA, Patriot Act) (SOPA and PIPA tyring to be passd)
msullivan85 3 days ago
@TwinSmoke also very glad to see you've made such a difference in the 15 years of Study...when somehow, history keeps repeating itself...Next illegal war, IRAN. It stops now.
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mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
RP wants to return the US to the gold standard? How about returning to the card system while he's at it? Those new-fangled computers have too much spam anyway.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Put this in perspective, Ron Pauls Prediction of the Crash happened many years later but it did happen Exactly as he said it would using Austrian Economics', Now Ron Paul and Peter Schiff along with all Austrian Economists are predicting Runaway inflation which will happen because it has too, The Fed has expanded the money supply many times over which means every time you double the money supply every dollar loses 50%value (technically) but it takes time to catch up.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - You talk about inflation. Are you aware of Germany? There was hyperinflation in 1923. Wheelbarrows of cash etc. OK. A decade later, German policy makers were still worried about inflation, in completely different economic circumstances. Because of 1923, no stimulus. You-know-who came to power in Germany. Massive arms build-up, kick-starting the economy. Right now, the US, with 10% unemployment, is getting like Germany in the 1930s, not 1923. It needs another FDR.
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ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Look im in over my head talking about economic's let's face it. All I know is Ron Paul exactly predicted the crash/how and why before anyone. Krugman gave an option that it "may" crash and that's not good enough, But anyways who will you vote for?
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Well, I'm from Australia, so I won't! Must be some big smiles where you are right now "Ron Paul’s Long Game" - Slate.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb haha fair enough but Im Australian too lol. Can we agree that Gillard sucks?
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - THAT is hilarious! I should've guessed from your name. Here I was, picturing you as tapping away at your computer in the US somewhere. No, I actually think the carbon tax is a step forward. Why are you so against it?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb That's a long and painful debate that I have had hundreds of times over the years with "believers" and ussally ends up with me citing peer reviewed Science and they cite concencus and noone wins really, But the biggest eye opener for me is when I took one look at the Robert Berner GEOCARB models/Temperature after C.R. Scotese graphs (Peer reveiwed) HADCRUT3 satelite/gathered data and CO2 doesn't seem to play the pertual warming(tipping Point) they say it does.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Although there's no debate that yes co2 does correlate with the planets temperature but how much it correlates has become the huge issue, For example from those graphs I linked you will notice that the Ordovician period we had roughly 12-14 times the amount of co2 in the earth atmosphere yet we had an Ice age for millions of years start and finish, the little correlation doesn't end there(medieval warm period ect).
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Veteran meteorologist/astrophysicist Pier Corbyn who has the Highest long range(over a year out sometimes) climate predictions in the world(95%on land 90% worldwide) uses astrophysics and it's study of the sun/sun spots/solar winds ect believes the real planets temperature driver has always been the sun, He predicted to the day the end of the Russian heat wave (sorry Al Gore permafrost Refroze), the Pakistan floods, Highest Prediction rate means he understands climate most
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Well, you defer to the experts on economics, so, you're saying that the ANU, Sydney Uni, Melb Uni, Oxford, Cam, Harvard etc - they're all part of some huge conspiracy, when their climate wise guys say climate change is real?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb So she's saying that even thought there has been a huge increase to CO2 mainly due to china/India huge economic expansion in the same 10 year period, the warming has slowed down but wait I thought co2 was the main driver of the planets temperature how can it slow down if co2 is added in huge quantities? Simple answer it can't If CO2 is the main driver.
No there has been climate change on earth for the last 4.54 billion years (earth birth) and it's not going to stop tomorrow
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "ANU, Sydney Uni, Melb Uni, Oxford, Cam, Harvard" all 1) get new huge Climate Grants(money), Want to see if I'm lying about a conspiracy Look up NASA sued over changing historical temperature data to show a warming where there was no warming, also got caught here in Aus changing outback temps by our own meteorologists, Why would NASA do that you ask? 6 BILLION a year in new climate grants while shutting down there air and space funding. Simple answer politics and Money.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Just to give you a heads up regardless wether you look into this or not, Piers Corbyn who doesn't believe Co2 is the main driver of the planets temperature who I spoke of earlier (90% prediction long range) has predicted a global cooling trend will now start for the next 24 years so see what happens but don't worry the "Global Warmists" will just turn around and say "global cooling just proves were right" lol Just remember me telling you this, they will spin it for money.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Aarghh. I gotta' add. Have you considered that fossil fuel companies might, just might, have a conspiracy of their own? A massive, coordinated disinformation campaign targeted at people who have a distrust of universities like ANU, Sydney Uni etc?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb They have already started spinning it by changing their term from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change" and there already straying from the whole "It's getting so hot" to "OMG look how many disasters are happening" If your in Australia then you know that so far we have gone through the coldest summer of 50 years and again that was predicted by Piers Corbyn over a year ago about the 24 year cooling trend starting now. see what happens mate and how they spin it.
Regards Mate
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Um, you're not in Victoria or South Australia, I take it (particularly when the bushfires happened)? Or up in North Qld last summer when Yasi happened, or in Europe when they're having more extreme winters or ... OK ... I give up. If you're a conspiracy theorist, I don't think argument is going to get us far. Try to imagine that not everyone who disagrees with you is part of the conspiracy or hates you, and Happy New Year.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb You can just look up Australia over all coldest summer in 50 years. I gave you the peer reviewed science but your simply calling me a conspiracy theorist without looking at it? There whole "global warming theory" Revolves around 30 years of data that's it, they tell people "don't look at anything before that". Plus you did exacly what I said you would, argue "concensus" without looking at the evidence yourself. Einstein stated Science is NEVER done by consensus.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Hey, it is NOT the peer reviewed science. The peer reviewed science is unanimous. People like Andrew Bolt, a convicted liar, argue the contrary. I also argue consensus without looking at the evidence myself, when some people argue that the Earth is the centre of the universe.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
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mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Under the current theory of "global Warming" basically CO2 is the main driver of the planets temp, an increase of co2 means a increase of temp always(which is true But co2 is only a mild driver of the planets temp, main is the sun of course) So with 100 years of man adding co2 and co2 being the main driver it should be impossible for Europe to break 100 year cold records and Australia to break 50 year cold summer records because CO2 is only going up not down, make sense?
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX you know that ron paul supports the finding the global warming right? But does not agree with how extreme people make out the case to be. He's words are "we'll you'd be stupid not to think that humanity with 9 billion people on earth haven't played a role in the change of the earth"
That said we basically agree, but don't be so black and white about it.
trentonx 3 weeks ago
@trentonx I stated quite clearly that adding co2 will increase the earths temperature that's a scientific fact but as we know from peer reviewed science co2 is only a very small driver of the planets temp, Ron Paul also stated allot of the same scientist's pushing global warming now are the same scientist's that pushed global cooling/ice age 40 years ago. He stated he feels that yes man has played a role but no it's not to the extreme allot are saying.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - How come you quote the peer reviewed science, but won't name the journals, or acknowledge that thousands of scientists participate in and endorse the ICCP findings? Good on you for batting so hard for what you believe in, but, with respect, you're being used by the big end of town. As much as scientists have those silly white coats and pocket protectors, they're doing the right thing in standing up against climate change, despite funding and other threats.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb GEOCARB III: A REVISED MODEL OF ATMOSPHERIC CO2 OVER
PHANEROZOIC TIME
ROBERT A. BERNER and ZAVARETH KOTHAVALA
Department of Geology and Geophysics, Yale University,
New Haven, Connecticut 06520-8109
all you had to do was google it.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb IPCC is funded by governments, governments love taxes. this is very simple, there theory is co2 is the main driver of the planets temp(not the sun but co2) then increasing co2 for the atmosphere means increased planets temps always, under that theory the rate of warming should only increase, Not slow down like it has done. Winters shouldn't be colder than 100years ago nor summers, so you must ask yourself why isn't it happening?
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Piers Corbyn. His Wikipedia doesn't look good when it says that he tries to censor publications about him. Where has he published on global warming?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Piers Corbyn doesn't publish that I know of, but he does have the highest long range predictions in the world which means that he can read/understand the climate better than anyone in the world. He also predicted the record breaking euro winters and NY cold snap and at both times he was laughed at until people died but now they listen, The Euro cold records under the"Global warming" theory should be impossible, "If" an increase in co2 means an increase in the planets temp.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - OK. If PC doesn't publish, one has to ask why. Why, if everyone people are now listening to him, isn't he getting published? Increases in co2 could mean more extreme temperatures, as in Europe, from the little I know about the subject.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "co2 could mean more extreme temperatures, as in Europe, from the little I know about the subject"
there saying co2 increases the planets temp and is the main driver of the planets temp (Global Warming) , not decreases the temp but increases therefore it's impossible under there own theory to say that cold winters breaking 100 year records is because of co2 that causes heat, you can't have it both ways either co2 increases the planets temp (like they say) or it doesn't.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb I don't like Wikipedia TBH I have found allot of their information wrong over the years, so I really can't trust it.
I mean we had ice ages that lasted millions of years with 14 times the amount of co2 in the earths atmosphere, If you believed in global warming not only would any ice age be impossible the earth should look like mars now.
DO you really believe that co2(gas) heats the planet more than the SUN(GIANT BALL OF FIRE) because that's there theory.Crazy Right?
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb History of scientific Consensus= Surgeon general in USA coming out telling everyone that smoking was not only harmless it was good for you and pregnant mothers should smoke FACT, Paid off by tobacco companies and government cigarette taxes. For every Lead in fuel harmful paper there was 10 lead in fuel is harmless papers again big oil and Government 50%tax. Global warming paid for by carbon trading banks, big oil(crush small oil companies) and governments pushing new taxes.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - "Exxon to cut funding to climate change denial groups" (Guardian June 08), "Exxon still aids climate sceptics" (The Aus, July 2010), "BP and Shell warned to halt campaign against US climate change bill" (Guard, Aug 09). There's big money in climate change denial - "How can climate change denialism be explained?" ABC, Dec 2011.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Type into Google "NASA sued for changing climate data" and pick any paper or video interview with the scientists suing them for changing data to show a warming where there wasn't one. Ask yourself why NASA would stoop to that level if the information on global warming was correct? Why change data? Is it possible the 6 billion a year in new government "climate science" grants was the reason? ICCP gets huge climate funding as well from governments which love taxes
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb To me global warming is manmade science is just more tobacco or lead in fuel science, they all had "scientific consensus" although they were paid off to protect already in place taxes, Global warming is manmade science imposes a new tax, So what happens when a person produces a full electric cheap car, do you really believe the government will get behind it with billions of tax money at stake if that car is released? Once a billion dollar tax is in place they will protect it
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Let's forget the science for one sec and look up Ken lay and Al gore trying to implement a company trading in sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxide, after this was squashed,Al gore then set his sights on trading in Carbon dioxide and released that horror movie,So now you have a tax that the Un's world bank takes a big chunk of, Plus you have all the banks now making record profits trading in carbon credits while reducing 0%emissions,Surprisingly ABC did a story on this problem
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Since the 1970s, the long-term rate of global warming has been around 0.16C a decade but that slowed in the last 10 years to between 0.05C - 0.13C depending on which of the three major temperature record series are used even though 5%Co2 worldwide(25%manmade)increase in the same 10year period
Vicky Pope, head of climate science advice, said: 'The warming trend has decreased slightly(that's alot). There's still a warming trend but it's not as rapid as it was before
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Robert Berner GEOCARB models/Temperature after C.R. Scotese graphs (Scientific Peer reviewed FACT) HADCRUT3 satellite/gathered data? Are you saying satellite data is a lie as well?
I happy for you to argue me but please don't call peer reviewed science not peer reviewed. Andrew Bolt? I'm linking satellite data/ reviewed data and your linking me to that guy?
Look I get it you have your new faith in"global Warming" based on consensus and that's ok most are until they look
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Which science (peer reviewed) journals?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Now when it does catch up just like the crash caught up to the housing inflation but it took 6 years, Krugman is just doing what all media did when Ron Paul and Peter Schiff Predicted the housing crash in 2002, calling them wrong and it will never happen ect.
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"And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.", Choose RON PAUL! Australia Votes for RON PAUL
pixel00706 3 weeks ago
OK, and you, Anticarbontax, were right and I was wrong about the NDAA. The mainstream media completely missed it - "The NDAA's historic assault on American liberty", London Guardian, 2 Jan 2012. I still don't think Obama's that bad, and I want to hear more, but it looks very, very dodgy, particularly that he signed it while everyone else was at their New Year's Eve parties.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "G.O.P. Monetary Madness" Dec 15, 2011"
I read this but all it states is how wrong Paul (repeated a few times) is about Runaway Inflation because it hasn't happened "yet", He also explains that there has been Inflation in the same article, Ron Paul was correct about the Inflation but it just hasn't sky rocketed yet, I noticed he mentioned Peter Schiff in the same article, Peter Schiff and Ron Paul both Predicted the crash years before Krugman and that's why Krugman is mad.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - No, fact is, Krugman predicted the US could crash, back in 1999, in his book on depression economics. Hey, the B52s predicted a "market crash" back in 1990. Doesn't mean they're experts like Krugman is- search on You Tube for "B52s", "Channel Z" and look at 2:44.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Read Krugmans "Conscience of a liberal"
where he praised quantitative easing which as we all know now had bad effects to the economy long term= quick boost then crash just like the fed.
"The simple fact is that we have a global excess supply of savings, which is doing terrible things to workers. The reasonable thing is to do something about it; it’s deeply unreasonable, and deeply irresponsible, to invent reasons not to act because you’re clinging to simplistic slogans."
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb After reading "Conscience of a liberal" by Krugman I'm sorry I have changed my mind about him he is not a good economist at all, "Quantitative Easing" is basically the Fed creating huge amounts of money out of thin air and then buying up what they can but it also means massively expanding the money supply which mean eventual hyperinflation/devaluation which is what Ron Paul/Austrian economists predict,Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is either silly or told to say it.
ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Sorry, Ron Paul/Austrians predict eventual hyperinflation/devaluation. It ain't necessarily so. Ron Paul and Peter Schiff's prediction of runaway inflation has not happened yet, describe the conditions they specified, being satisfied. Therefore they are wrong. If your model is found to not match the facts, you need a new model, methinks. No?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "US could crash" Isn't good enough considering he gave no detail like Ron Paul did into exactly why it did, just saying "hay this could happen" compared to Ron Pauls "this will happen and here's exactly why it will happen" It's like a mechanic saying "your car may crash it may not" compared to "your car will crash and it's because your brakes have been cut" Who would you trust in the future? Plus Krugman thought Quantitative Easing was a good idea lol he was wrong big time.
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ANTICARBONTAX 3 weeks ago
Maybe Mr Paul doesn't have as much integrity as I thought he did - search "And you, sir, are no libertarian", at the ABC Australia site.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
Let's get this video to over a million views.
Distribute/resend it everywhere you can/facebook/twitter/forums etc/ no matter where you are from.
RP 2012! IOWA tomorrow.!!!
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OK, I watched your video for 3m 14s, and then it got hard to hear the voices over the music. Ron Paul really does seem to have integrity, and he predicted the housing bubble would pop. Full credit for that. But what does he propose? Small government? When you've got an alternative, Big Brother government already there, on Wall St? If I can ask you to read Krugman's newest piece (just for 3m 14s at least!) - "Nobody Understands Debt". Go on. You know you want to. He writes really well.
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mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb - And I like Paul's non-aggression to Iran. Great stuff. Really courageous, when there's all these chicken-hawk war-mongers.
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And "anticarbontax". Why are you "anticarbontax"? If it prices CO2 pollution, and helps save the planet, isn't that a good thing?
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I'm RACIST for criticizing Obama, a TERRORIST because I'm against the Bush wars, ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Israel unconditionally, a TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution, a TRUTHER for asking unanswered questions, a TRAITOR for whistle-blowing on my corrupt government artocites, a CONSPIRACY THEORIST for presenting documented facts, a TROLL for uploading news, videos, and quotes, and ANTI-AMERICAN for supporting a Constitutionalist like Dr. Ron Paul.
RON PAUL 2012!
blackadder2012 4 weeks ago
RuPaul 2012
jhdillingerjr 1 month ago
punt lover
karezza6 1 month ago
767 people should be deported to north korea.
steffen3443 1 month ago
How did he not win!?! I didn't even hear about him! It was all Obama.
serclfs 1 month ago
Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul; Two of the greatest American politicians ever.
LordWellington15 1 month ago
@LordWellington15 - Reagan turned the US from the world's biggest creditor nation, into the world's biggest debtor nation. WAY TO GO, RONNIE! And Ron Paul would do the same? And you're saying that's a good thing?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 month ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Are you saying that big government is a good thing? Are you saying that a few people in Washington should control the lives of all Americans?
LordWellington15 1 month ago
@LordWellington15 - When Wall St crashed the US and world economy in 1929, and FDR stepped up to the plate and created the welfare state to feed people them jobs, yes big govt was a good thing. When the Nazis started WW2, and the US Govt led the fight back, yes big govt was a good thing. When Hurricane Katrina hit, big govt WOULD have been a good thing, rather than Brad Pitt and his friends having to save New Orleans. Now, to stop Wall St, big govt is needed again.
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this is fucked that you're playing music, (that by the way sucks) while Ron is talking....grrr
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highwatersband 1 month ago
Paul's going to win.....he's going to f***ing win!!!! Epiphany...
brock12003 1 month ago
@brock12003 ... or drugs.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 month ago
punt lover
karezza6 1 month ago
@karezza6 yeah, I love boating too !
BudFactorE 1 month ago
@BudFactorE
punt lover
karezza6 1 month ago
@karezza6 yes a punt, (a small boat or watercraft) it's fun to go boating :)
BudFactorE 1 month ago
punt lover
karezza6 1 month ago
This is a great man, the rest of the politicians should be ashamed of themselves
Sourcecode01 1 month ago 9
The people who fear Ron Paul; the ones who are slandering his name are the same people who run things in this country. They slander him because he represents a following more informed than them. Ron Paul doesn't like corrupt criminals sending our kids to war "preemptively." This is not a losing political argument. People are not this stupid anymore. War persists as a result of our own delusion that it needs to. We teach children to share with one another, yet we live in perpetual war.
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america is doing everything wrong the world now see's it as an enemy. you cant can't change the world by force, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
R4NDYS4V4GE 1 month ago
america is doing everything wrong the world now see's it as an enemy. you cant can't change the world by force, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
R4NDYS4V4GE 1 month ago
Ron Paul would be a fantastic leader for the people. An someone I would be proud to call my president. too bad am british.
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54321abcdxyz 1 month ago
Should have used the song "Don't tread on me" by Metallica.
94Cioppa 1 month ago
Ron Paul seems the only man able to run the states.
fascinatingvideos 1 month ago
@fascinatingvideos RON PAUL is the only Presidential candidate that understands that the President isn't supposed to "run the states."
FreeinTX 1 month ago
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The lack of diversity in candidates means there are a lot of passionate Ron Paul supporters. But I don't understand why many social liberals support him:
He's right about US foreign policy: It is morally and financially bankrupt. It is intrusive or even imperialistic. And morality aside it's simply too expensive.
His views on social freedoms (abortion, drugs, etc) are spot on.
But his inegalitarian socio-economic views are horrendous.
He's a libertarian, but he's not a social liberal.
TheCasualObservers 1 month ago
Ron Paul isn't racist, homophobic or an anti Semite. He just doesn't like blacks, gays or Jews. He's a creep.
SHITCREEKSURVIVOR 1 month ago
@SHITCREEKSURVIVOR Oh thank god some one who has evidence and is not just sprowting properganda please post the clip of Ron saying anything that would back that up I can't seem to find any with any of the other Ron Paul haters.
harding10B 1 month ago
@harding10B - stuff like this, you mean? - Google "Paul Disowns Extremists’ Views but Doesn’t Disavow the Support" (NY Times, Dec 26, 2011).
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 month ago
@SHITCREEKSURVIVOR Fuck Off Troll
ANTICARBONTAX 1 month ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Google "Ron Paul and Extremism: Discover It Again, for the First Time", Slate, Dec 26, 2011
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 month ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "New York Times" thats your source? Your kidding right? That's basically the banker daily ofcourse they think he's extreme because he is trying to stop them from fucking people like you over by holding them accountable for there actions.
ANTICARBONTAX 1 month ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - The Times still publishes Paul Krugman. He tries to hold the bankers and the GOP accountable, he tries to hold Obama accountable, and he tries to hold Ron Paul accountable. Ron Paul is not the answer. Elisabeth Warren from Mass. could do a lot more than him. She's not a racist, and she's really smart. Good on you for hanging crap on greedy bankers, though.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 month ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "The Times still publishes Paul Krugman. He tries to hold the bankers and the GOP accountable, he tries to hold Obama accountable, and he tries to hold Ron Paul accountable"
Paul Krugman of the banker daily tries to hold Ron Paul accountable for what exactly? Warning everyone the housing bubble was going to colapse years before? or Warning everyone that you can't just bail out banker pieces of shit that caused the crash in the first place? He tried so hard to warn everyone
ANTICARBONTAX 1 month ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - I think I generally agree with your assessment of bankers. Krugman tries to hold Paul accountable for not knowing basis economics, and yet claiming he does.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1)It's not a campain video its old c-span footage proving he predicted exactly what was going to happen many years before it did and I urge you to at least watch the video so you can understand my side please because if someone predicted exactly whats going to happen economically then he understands economics better than all people who didn't see it comming and that's just a fact. 2)Sorry Murdoch owns the NY Post not Times my bad.
ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - No worries. Murdoch is doing bad things, so, if you're hanging crap on those things, more power to ya! I don't doubt that Mr Paul predicted financial catastrophe, but I gotta' say many people did. It's just that Mr Bush, and yes, the people now working for Mr Obama and doing NOTHING about the Securities Exchange Commission making dodgy fraud settlement deals with Citigroup (see Matt Tiabbi at Rolling Stone), refused to hear it. You deserve better than Ron Paul.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Ron Paul did more than anyone ever did, maybe you should go back and watch "The amazingly accurate predictions of Ron Paul..listen 'till the end and you'll be shocked!" video and then lets talk about holding Ron Paul Accountable my friend
ANTICARBONTAX 1 month ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - You haven't even responded to Krugman's criticism of RP, and you're asking me to watch an RP campaign video?
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Obama could have vetoed TARP (Banker Bailouts) but didn't thus supporting it. The debt level is the biggest problem in the US economy and if you think otherwise then you're a fool that will go down with the ship because very soon the US wont be able to even pay the Interest on the Chinese Loan which will mean a DEFAULT which means the US dollar won't be World reserve currency, which means US dollar then will massively plug to nothing, it's basic economics.
ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Krugman argues that, in the real world, govt will bail out the banks. The real problem is that the govt did not also bail out mortage holders, and stop the shadow banks from getting into that bad place in the first place. Jobs, not debt, is the biggest problem in the US economy. The markets know that. They react when Mr Obama looks at addressing jobs. They don't react when he mistakenly looked at debt. He's finally realising that, and is about to focus on jobs.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Rupert Murdoch Seems to be your favorite source and it's completely obvious that he doesn't want Ron Paul to be President judging from every lying piece of shit media outlet he owns bashes Ron Paul, Do you really want to get your information from someone who allowed/protected his media outlet to hack the phone of a dead school girl and make the police think shes still alive just to get an ongoing story happening?
ANTICARBONTAX 1 month ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - I'm quoting the NY Times and you say Murdoch is my favourite source? Murdoch is not my favourite source. You're aware that Murdoch doesn't own the NY Times?
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ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb BTW It was Rupert Murdoch's outlet that called Ron Paul pessimist for these predictions just like they called "Peter Schiff" a pessimist and "gloom and doom" forcaster (laughing at him) for backing Ron Pauls Statements with his own prediction of the housing bubble/crash years before it happened, along with "bailing out the banks was bad idea that would do nothing but futher the problem" So you need to be careful who you believe, "Fool me once" situtation here
ANTICARBONTAX 1 month ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Good on Ron Paul for making those predictions. Not so good on Ron Paul for the racist things he's said, and for not knowing economics, when he has enormous power.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb From Slate? Give me a break! Why not just ask the DoD if they like RON PAUL proposed cessation of military global intervention? RON PAUL's message, liberty, freedom, and fiscal responsibility is NOT extreme, nor are his positions on anything else!
FreeinTX 1 month ago
@FreeinTX ... Um, no connection between Slate and the DoD. Try responding to the points raised in the article, if you actually want to have a debate, rather than just SHOUTING in BIG CAPITAL LETTERS. Paul is extremist, and you'll find that too if you bother to look.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 month ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb RON PAUL is not an extremist. You can't get 24 YEARS in congress as an extremist. You can't get to be the ranking member of the banking subcommittee as an extremist, and you certainly wouldn't have been able to accurately predict the collapse of the housing market and the default swap scam.
Extremism is the NDAA and the TSA (backed by the US Army) with their hands down our pants at the Superbowl! THAT is extremism! RON PAUL IS AGAINST EXTREMISTS!
FreeinTX 1 month ago
@FreeinTX - Look at what the GOP and the Democrats have done to the US economy, from within the US presidency and Congress. Extremists are in power now, and Ron Paul is part of that system. There are good guys within Congress, and Mr Obama negotiated the anti-nuke treaty with the Russians, and it looks like he might be changing to save jobs rather than worry about debt. If you get an expert economist, like Paul Krugman, to look at Ron Paul's economics, you'll see that RP is extremist.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "If you get an expert economist, like Paul Krugman"
Well link where Paul Krugman told the people that the economic crash was coming before Ron Paul did, If he's such an expert then you should have no problem producing an article in 2001 or before with that fact. Obama is the worst president in US history, He has passed LAW that states anyone can be killed if he feels like it(NDAA bill), Expanded the wars with one hand while receiving the Noble Peace Prize lol.
ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Hi. You can't link on YouTube, but Google "That Hissing Sound is Krugman" August 8, 2005. I'm not defending Mr Obama, I think he's in the pocket of Wall St, and he should be out of Afghanistan, let alone getting out of Iraq sooner, but he has done some good things. I don't know about the NDAA bill, but a few more specifics would be good before you make a claim like that. Cheers.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "Hi. You can't link on YouTube, but Google "That Hissing Sound is Krugman" August 8, 2005" Well that is a good article but I'm Sorry to tell you that Paul predicted it in september 6th 2001 so that means Krugman jumped on the Ron Paul Bandwagon 4 years later abd I assume people told Krugman this fact after the article so naturally he has a vendetta for being shown up by Ron Paul. Sorry but this Proves Krugman is only a shadow of Ron Pauls economic understanding.
ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Thanks for the acknowledgement, and it looks like you win, in terms of Ron Paul predicting a crash before Krugman. But back in 1999, Krugman published "The return of depression economics", saying that depression was still possible. I still question whether Krugman, a Nobel Prize-winning academic who thrice weekly takes on every hostile economist, and wins, has a poorer understanding of economics than Mr Paul. But hey, this isn't "my superhero v your superhero".
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb I'm not saying Krugman isn't a great economist (he is actually after I just read the article you linked) I'm simply saying for Ron Paul (not an economist) to understand exactly what was going to happen so perfectly just by studying the history of the fed bubble cycles just like Krugman does, so it seems, that the article shows that Krugman and Ron Paul have very similar views on economics and the Fed's involvement. I'm actually surprised you don't like Ron Paul more.
ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Not to take anything away from Krugman but after Obama got the "Nobel Peace Prize" while expanding the wars gives me absolutely no faith in the Nobel prize. Seems you can just buy one these days, sad really. Ron Paul understands economics better than any politician I have ever seen and he has numerous correct economic predictions to back that up.If Ron Paul can come to the same exact conclusion as Krugman but 4 years before, doesn't that make you think wow he does understand
ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@ANTICARBONTAX - Thanks for reading the Krugman piece. Can I suggest one more piece, which sets out his criticism of Mr Paul? (There are many.) It's "G.O.P. Monetary Madness" Dec 15, 2011. He shows that Mr Paul has often been wrong on economics, his specialty. Mr Obama got the Nobel a bit early, because, I think, the Committee wanted to help him against Washington hawks, and maybe pressure him to do the right thing (and his nuke peace treaty with Russia probably helped). You can't just buy one.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "You can't just buy one"
All I know is there's a million dead in Iraq mostly kids and that was over WMD's that didn't exist, The war with Afghanistan was to find Osama but we all know it wasn't there main priority and that's hundreds of thousands dead there mostly kids again, Does that sound like something a Nobel Peace Prize should be? That's my opinion
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@ANTICARBONTAX - Spot on. But Obama HAS got the US out of Iraq (although he should probably tax Halliburton and the rest, to help the Iraqiis rebuild economically). Hey, if Ron Paul is not going to attack Iran, he's the best Republican candidate - Good luck in Iowa.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 3 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb You know I took the time to read your linked articles so I think it's only fair you watch my link, I know you don't want to be proved wrong but I think sometimes we need to, so it can open our eyes. What Ron Paul predicted took 4 more years before Krugman could understand.
"I don't know about the NDAA bill" not many do because the media barely talked about it but it's the most dangerous law that ever existed.
Mr Obama is doing what he always did adding to the debt.
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mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb "I don't know about the NDAA bill, but a few more specifics would be good before you make a claim like that. Cheers."
I can make that claim because I understand it, I suggest you just research it.
"The Amazingly Accurate Predictions of Ron Paul" watch it please, after you find out Krugman isn't as good as Ron Paul on economic's, let me know
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@mtflesruoytsacdaorb Ron Paul was a Doctor at the time he lent his name to that paper and as you can understand if you have ever met a doctor they work incredibly long hours even more if your delivering babies because sometimes labour can go for days and he can't leave her, so the fact you think someone can actually write a newsletter on doctors hours is ridiculous, Secondly Ron Paul Voted for Dr Martin Luther King Day in 1979 which is the exact opposite a Racist would do. Newt Voted against it
ANTICARBONTAX 4 weeks ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb 1 - RON PAUL is NOT "part of the system." The "system" calls him Dr. NO! for a reason!
2- The anti-nuke treaty did NOTHING to make the world safer, in fact just the opposite. Both the US and Russia have enough nukes to destroy the planet, that hasn't changed.
3- Paul Krugman failed to see the coming collapse, as the award winning economist Dr. RON PAUL did. And Krugman is a TOTAL IDIOT on his view that only government can spend money to save us.
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@FreeinTX - RP is a Member of US House Reps. Sounds like part of system to me, but I can concede he's against it. See Doonesbury, 28 Jan 2012. The anti-nuke actually did limit a whole lot of nukes, although it's true that the US and Russia still have far too many nukes. As for Krugman, he wrote "The Return of Depression Economics" back in 1999. Spending money is how govts got out of the Great Depression. Your using CAPITAL LETTERS and abusing Krugman doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
mtflesruoytsacdaorb 2 days ago
@mtflesruoytsacdaorb 4 - Extremism is bailing out BANKSTERS with over $30 TRILLION and demanding more, waging undeclared wars with several countries on the other side of the planet while we are in the midst of the greatest depression ever, and passing the NDAA, which legalized MILITARY on the streets of America to enforce laws, and allowing them to abduct, torture, and even kill Americans without charges being filed, or trails being held. THAT is extremism!
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@FreeinTX To be fair we aren't in the worst depression ever but everything else is spot on.
warhorseforever 2 weeks ago