Zizek at Marxism 2010

[scarletghoul]

haha. zizek pwns that silly trot

[ThewildRageofGordon]

Zizke dosn't want to know that he is a Megalomaniac, so he invents the idol Hegel. Zizek never has encountered Hegel, he needs only an external mask or persona to disseminate himself in the absence of his own Super Ego knowledge.

However, again, we should notice that the space "under our nose" (think the purloined letter of Poe/and of Lacan:)haha)

[JayPhilosopher]

Please use a tripod, the camera shake is disturbing. Zizek is hard enough to understand because of his accent and often disconnected style of speaking.

[EyesOnPower]

@JayPhilosopher A thousand apologies, JP. Leave your address and I'll send you a refund.

[sirpickles]

@EyesOnPower hahahahaha, this is funny. Made you look foolish Jay.

[mattyisagod]

@EyesOnPower Nobody likes a smartarse

[TeiviTeivi]

@EyesOnPower leave YOUR address and JayPhilosopher will send you a brand new tripod.

[KillYourFriends100]

What the youth of today needs to embrace is revolutionary Marxism and Kautskyism. This new wave of youthful radicalism is eccentric and inspirational. Finally, we have a generation that does not promote the irrational ideologies of capitalism, fascism and imperialism. Finally we have a generation that advocates equality, democracy and liberty!

[Morgoth318]

Marxist students will never ever represent the working class as the marxist students always brand the working class racists and fascist. There opposition to the working class EDL proves this.

Why is it that middle class students forget there revolution when they get they high paid often goverment jobs?

Im not trying to insult marxists but this is the case and I want an honist answer.

[mouthofyoureye]

@Morgoth318 the EDL doesn't represent the working class, it represents white xenophobes and racists. we know for a fact (from the published membership lists and voting info) that the BNP have a huge base in the middle class. and the EDL itself is anti-working class because it attacks OTHER WORKERS. the SWP isn't made up of middle class students it's made up of trade unionists and students that will become trade unionists. Socialism IS the politics of class if nothing else.

[Redjavaad]

@Morgoth318 I grew up on an estate and I can tell you there's nothing working class about fascist groups like EDL and BNP. When the BNP list was leaked there were more doctors and lawyers than builders and plumbers.  They had a bigger membership list for Surrey than the West midlands. When the EDL came to Bradford it was working class whites and Asians that smashed them. It is a lie, passed off as "common sense" by daily mail readers, that racists/fascists tend to be working class.

[Redjavaad]

@Morgoth318 I grew up on an estate and I can tell you there's nothing working class about fascist groups like EDL and BNP. When the BNP list was leaked there were more doctors and lawyers than builders and plumbers. They had a bigger membership list for Surrey than the West midlands. When the EDL came to Bradford it was working class whites and Asians that smashed them. It is a lie, passed off as "common sense" by daily mail readers, that racists/fascists tend to be working class.

[TheEphos]

@Morgoth318 The EDL attacking occupy demonstrators in Newcastle and being anti-trade union makes them the bankers friend in my book and therefore a scab organisation.

[AndrewMann552]

The next great revolutionary wave might combine Marxism or socialism with shades of Bakuninist theory.

[deciothomas]

@mtklaric so how do you classify it? "shit-happens-all-the-time" system?

[bubzification]

@alewisuk well I can see sparticist league rhetoric will really win with such awe inspiringly poor analysis- we don't support waged labour in the society we want to see, hierarchy or the structure of decision making- the processes we have in the party are exactly that, the most unified way to run a revolutionary party, not a society. Your analysis appears more to do with one upmaship than anything genuine.

[mtklaric]

do these people ever talk about real economics instead od marxist theory?!

[Audiocodes]

@mtklaric Slavoj Zizek is talking about the crisis of capitalism today, specifically referring to countries in Latin America and events in Greece. Try listening sometimes, instead of making a preconceived comment that doesn't address any of the points made in the talk.

[mtklaric]

@Audiocodes if you knew anything about economics you would never call this present global economic system a capitalit system....listen what ron paul has to say about it so much more concrete and precise than these charlatanic phiolosophers

watch?v=ticytEUvVhQ

[Audiocodes]

@mtklaric If you believe that the present global system is not capitalist then clearly it is you who knows nothing about economics.

[mtklaric]

@Audiocodes I see you didnt watch the video I put in my last response...

[Audiocodes]

@mtklaric I did and the "corporatism" that Ron Paul talks about is capitalism. The "free market" referred to is utopian nonsense dreamt up by capitalist apologists. If you believe you can have an unfettered, free market that these right wing libertarians talk about, then have a read of The conditions of the Working Class in England by Frederick Engels to see the results, or visit one of many countries today where you will see poverty, hunger, death and disease on a massive scale.

[HTCEVOSONGS]

@Audiocodes Ron Paul is not an Anti-Capitalist. Ron Paul is a petite-Bourgeois populist reactionary. I would rather have hitler in power than Ron Paul. That is how fucked up he is.

[TheEphos]

@HTCEVOSONGS Going a bit too far on the Hitler front, but I agree with you that Paul is a petite-Bourgeois populist reactionary.

[beat4battle]

I have the whole talk up at vimeo[dot]com/13142973

[kalleklar1]

Strange that Zizek agreed to speak at this meeting hosted by a bourgeoisie party. During the 2010 conference not a single real radical thought was expressed by any WSP speaker. They are a opportunistic labour-like party with a radical rhetoric that only serves to delude the working class, to pacify any real radical development.

[ahuj89]

@kalleklar1 If weirdo concilliatory faux-marxist parties want to foot the bill for talks why not let them (provided they don't hog too much time)

[bubzification]

Ultra leftist crap. You give no examples and probably don't even have an analysis yourself, hence the polemic. Try to direct your anger towards the system instead of the SWP, it's much healthier..

[alewisuk]

@bubzification It is a bit OTT but the SWP/SP etc are certainly part of the problem, even if they're well intended.

[bubzification]

@alewisuk How exactly are the SWP part of the problem and what would you suggest as an alternative?

[alewisuk]

@bubzification Because it replicates bourgeois ideology, albeit with revolutionary rhetoric. The bourgeois fundamentals aren't really challenged: Hierachy, the structure of decision making, maximising surplus value, the existence of wage labour etc. All this is broadly accepted. What the SWP offer is an alternative type of exploiting society. Consiously or not, it doesn't really matter. The alternative is workers defining their own struggles and goals and working towards them.

[ButherLi55ett]

@kalleklar1 And you think Zizek is somehow apart from all this garbage? Do me a favour. Zizek is up to his neck in the lefty swamp.