Why is the graviton assumed to be a neutral bosonic particle???
when according to Randall /Sundrum and string (m) theory its the only truly multi-dimensional closed-ended particle. Why classify its characteristics with the other open-ended strings bound to our (men)brane??? Besides by doing that it eliminates any chance of anti-gravitons and any chance of graviton annihilation!!!....and thats no fun!!!
Since gravity bahaves like electromagnetism and is a result of the deformations and stress in spacetime by massive bodies ideally gravity is easily like radiation now common sense would say find the massive bodies which produce the most distrubances in spactime stars? yes? what kind? Neutron Stars Why? cause out of all compact stars besides Black Holes these stars still have a huge remain of their previous state(main sequence star) and actually gain more energy in momentum in their orbits
@Accisma You wouldn't say "Us are dumb," would you? Of course not. So when you add "earth humans" to it, that doesn't change anything. "Us Earth humans are dumb" is bad grammar.
Gravity (gravitational radiation/gravitons) can be manufactured.
This is why "abductees" dont float around on the space craft like dumb NASA astronauts.
If one can generate the gravitational radiation that produces gravity then they could have gravity anywhere they want (on space crafts, on small moons, small space stations, etc)
Space, time, and all known forces in physics can be manipulated if you have enough technology and knowledge.
The Graviton exists, the Andromedans already proved that a LONG time ago
It comes from gravitational radiation emitted from stars (like our sun) and is the reason why all planets close enough in proximity to a star revolve around that star.
The gravitational pull from the gravitons inside gravitational radiation is what causes planets to orbit our sun. Planets with atmospheres (like Earth) have the ability to regulate these gravitons more effectively then ones without an atmosphere.
@buffboynick If only stars produce gravitons, why are they using a particle accelerator to look for them. Your comments belittle the ingenuity of humans.
if the graviton exists, would we ever run out of them ?..
I mean if its a particle the flows in one direction,, could its source get empty; and also as like electric; what counter force would it naturally have ?
I wonder maybe gravity isnt a main force but rather a side effect, resulting out of quantum mechanics and statistics or some mix of time and light and dimensions..
I dont believe the graviton exists,thats why they cant find it.I believe gravity is just a left over differential energy beetween two compeeting forces,like the magnetic field and the earth spinning.If on a hot summer day a cloud comes along and cools down a pach of sky,the wind blows,energy moves,because of the hot and cold difference.If you heat up glass and trow it into freezing water it will break.that energy witch caused it to break is a differential energy betwenn two forces competiing.
AMAZING NEW THERORY!!!!! I MAY HAVE AN EXPLAINATION!!!!!
The Membrane or the Plain Of Existence that we are now is joined to other parallel universes through black holes. Our neighboring parallel universes have black holes in exactly the same place as the black holes in our universe.. Like a giant suctionstraw at both ends of each parallel universe matter and light is sucked in to feed the expansion and space between parallel universes. Black holes feedDARK ENERGY.lancedavidson(A)rocketmail,com
Fermilab: Making mass leave our universe VIDEO PROOF and creating a new diamention.>an ABBYSS. The missing mass collapses down the space created is a new universe. it has it's own time but speeded up relative to ours. a data transfer laser will be used to send data to this 'diamention' at CERN. Predicted >it will absorb photons and absorb energy.
surely if the graviton existed then it would be in it's own gravity and would disappear almost instantly? think about it, the earth is travelling round the sun at 15,000 miles an hour and is rotating at about 1000 miles an hour, if a graviton could be created then it would simply stand still while we on earth would carry on moving away from it at high speed, this is why we cannot see it, the experiment needs to be done in space out of orbit.
@HebaruSan fair point but surely it would follow it's own path in the expansion of the universe rather than follow the path of the earth if it was in its own gravitational field? just throwing it out there, i know sod all about physics/astro physics etc, just trying to look at it logically.
for a number of reasons, one of being a mistakely lost energy, and the other is, that observing energy loss is energy loss and not a graviton, neither a boson or a imaginarion
Think about throwing a dart in the air. Then stopping time. When you unpause time, how does dart know in what direction and how fast it will go there? I think graviton has also some part in explaining that.
people are so self-centered that they need to believe that there is a god and that they are special. i've got news. the stories people tell about magical mosters in the sky like JESUS and SANTA are just stories. get real people. lets learn to love and how not to fight.
Then what is feelings. Why is it that, in most of us, we have feelings combined with a conscience. A mechanism that tells you what you can't do and what you can do naturally.
Im not Religious but you got to admit that feelings is a construction in some sort in us humans that are there for us to get a perspective of life and this planet, atleast. If not, people wouldn´t fall in love and make babies.
Not saying its proof, but points towards something is behind it and want's it to continue.
3:30 - So some of the brightest brains in the world are picking up and leaving the US because we've fallen behind in high energy physics, as public education continues to deteriorate, and the most salient battles in that area revolve around getting more creationism taught in schools.
The Superconducting Supercollider would have cost Americans less than about a third of a penny per day over its service life. But why study how the Universe came to be when you can read People magazine, instead?
@hydrojaydog: I'm not certain. I'm sure they do in some places. In Texas, where these things are decided once for the whole state, there was a serious push for teaching "Intelligent Design" along side Evolution. (Proponents pretend that there are "two sides" to this "debate".) Fortunately, sanity prevailed. But it could easily have gone the other way. (Powerful lobbies.) It's all very scary here in the US. Many of our citizens are completely loony. But they have a vote like everyone else.
i live in the usa. there are times when i sit back and wonder how the religious stories were sold to the masses. it must be the though of an afterlife, lol. what a promise, to live forever... it's akin to me saying, "listen bergman, you just keep on being miserable here on earth, and when you die, you will go to this wonderful place where everyone you love will be and where you will enjoy everlasting bliss."
why not try to make a heaven here, where at least we know that it is for sure?
@hydrojaydog: I think that many (most?) people have a fundamental issue with the prospect of ceasing to exist. That's probably the most powerful driver for religion. Then there is the "sports" aspect of it that ties into the old "Us vs Them" thing in our evolution. People gravitate toward "us vs them" thinking. And, of course, there's "this is the way I learned it" crowd. And the stronger version we can call the "You callin' my momma a liar!?" set.
Following up on the last point, for each graviton to have both graviton and anti-graviton properties (so it can be its own anti-particle as the standard model suggests) it seems the graviton must eventually cycle to an opposite phase, but there is no minimum rate at which this has to happen - it could take tens of thousands of years, for example, and this would fit very close in effect to Newtonian gravity at all but cosmological-scaled distances.
For photons being their own anti-particles, the closest analogue I can imagine to a matter-antimatter pair is two photons with opposite phases going in opposite directions, though they do not collide but instead simply pass through each-other - which is the closest all-photon analogue I can think of for an matter/anti-matter particle collision that yields only photons.
What I was trying to say is that the extradimensionality could be reduced to apparatus-enveloping modes of transmission. As the graviton presumably has less energy than the energy of the smallest particle with mass, effective tranmission modes presumably are in waves much greater than an apparatus-enveloping scale. Neutrinos oscillate with a wavelength comparable to Earth's orbit, for example. The point here is to dispense with more arcane concepts of extradimensionality.
No doubt gravitons have tiny hooks, like button hooks, which latch on to the fabric of space making it curve in on itself in opposition to the natural tendency of space to expand under the force of dark energy.
ok stupid question, if Gravitons exist does that mean we could generate them? if so does that mean we could have artificial gravity or for that mater anti gravity?
@dalekStewie I beg you different your question is an excellent one, and yes I think this would be the next step once we see them, we can study them, and then the step would be to isolate them, and as in physics for every Matter there is an Antimatter
e.g. Positron-Electron Nutron-Antinutreno
and when these particles collide they anhilate and evergy is release.
Well, not all particles have their antimatter counterpart. Massless photons do not, (well being exact, the antiparticle for photon is photon). And gravitons, by all we know, should also be antiparticles for themselves.
thanks for the information but are photons really their own antimatter? I thought that photons are not real particle nor not really a wave meaning they are not really a matter just energy so if so the graviton must be also only energy or a sort of matter we have not incountered yet, if it has so much force that acts as the gravity force, this is very interesting I wish to know more about this, maybe one day..
One of Einstein's insights tells us that matter and energy are different forms of same thing (they are interchangeable).
The problem with graviton isn`t really creating it, but detecting it. I heard that graviton-measuring device with weight of 1000 kilotons orbiting a standard neutron star would only detect one graviton / 10 years, when working on 100%.
We already have few gravitational waves detectors on Earth. We only need something to create those waves (like collision of two black holes).
If the LHC does not have enough energy to produce the graviton, I wonder if our government would be willing to resume the Superconducting Super Collider near Dallas TX. I wish it wasn't canceled in 1993. It would have been a 40TeV Collider instead of the 14TeV LHC.
The mass-energy ratio of the universe is proportional to the product of the magnetic and electric field constants of nature. It's constant, it's conserved. There may also be a conservation law of space-time that somehow relates to mass-energy.
that also explains what time is, why relativity is wrong, and what mass is. This theory debunks the existence of the graviton, higgs boson, string theory, any dimension beyond four and the idea that space can be bent.
Trust me JWilko75 I would never make such a bold statement without any evidence to back it up. My theory explains Newtons Laws in full detail and offers a classical explanation for the effect of gravity without the use of an ether or other hypothetical substance. Instead my theory offers a complete explantion for the cause and effect of gravity and leaves no questions { as it fully explains all of them }. As of now I am in the process of trying to publish my theory.
I hope you have a lot of patience though, it will be alot of time before its out there, considering patenting my theory, publishing my book. Total time should take most definately less than three years. Trust me you will most definately like what you see, I guarantee it.
- limerence18
- Jakeem Ortiz
P.S. I'm giving myself too much time for just-in-case instances. Total time should actually take at most a year and a half.
@ShallowThoughts I have accomplished so much in my time, In 2011 my theory will be published and as i have claimed will be the start of a Paradigm Shift. You'll see.
@limerence18 really! Oh boy! please do publish your theory! i've been dying to know what is gravity and what causes it and was motivated to spend my life to discover it. please has it been published!? Now what i'm i suppose to do then after i graduate with a degree with mathematics? psh. i should work for you then now! just wow. if your theory is sound. i knew that graviton was shit. does it explain dark matter too? and what dark matter is?
@uut0 A theory is merely an interpretation of how the evnts occur, If even one explntion is not representative of Nature then the theory is bound to fall part, however it takes time to see the flaws and at that more modifications and correct predictions give some theories the illusion that it may be representative of Nature. If you solve for gravity in an algebraic perspective however the cards change, and that's exactly what I did. Next year a paradigm shift is in the making.
A question I have is that even if the gravitational field can be a 2nd-rank tensor, does that really mean that each graviton has to be spin-2, or should a combination of non-spin-2 gravitons coming from various angles create the tensor field at a point.
I'll suppose spin-2 gravitons for the moment. No idea how they made it into the standard model, however.
The simplest thing I can come up with for spin-2 is two counterrotating unitary-magnitude force-vectors, but I'd like to avoid a true zero-sum phase, so I'll assume that when the supposed counterrotating gravity force vectors of a graviiton are opposed (rotated 90 degrees from alighment) they are both still somehow manifested in various absorbtion events.
The graviton is supposedly spin-2 because the gravitational field is a 2nd-order tensor field.
side note: Two linearly-polarized photons apparently can be combined with a 90 degree phase difference to form circularly-polarized light, where the E vector rotates.
Meant to add that the helicities (left or right -handed) of circularly polarized photons are +/-h components of photon spin angular momentum (sqrt 2)h, along the direction of photon motion, though this angular momentum is independent of frequency.
No, I'm not a physicist. It's a hobby. I had a couple of years of physics in college, the same courses as physics majors took. The rest was mostly electrical engineering, I switched majors after my second year of chemical engineering. In EE we studied the Lagrangian (energy balance) for low-energy systems, and quite a lot of electromagnetics.
... Which leads me to suspect that the so-called extradimensionality of lost energy is analogous to an antenna that is too small to work.
The idea I had is to take the gravitational flux rule that is Newton's law of gravity and quantize it in carriers with extremely low energy and thus long wavelength. By averaging over every rotation plane, it's apparent that multiplication of classical gravity by a cosine with a wavelength close to the diameter of Hoag's galaxy explains the ring as a stable structure and why so many younger gaxies apparently have rings. Spin-2 may refer to this E+M plane-orthogonal vector rotation w.r.t. path.
My suggestion is that the anti-graviton is a graviton with a force fector that has rotated 180 degrees to become an antigravity-type force, it replaces the cosmological constant. Photon force vectors rotate proportional to the energy of the photon, so we should expect the gravity force vector to rotate very slowly. Hoag's galaxy gives an idea of the scale. Normally the center of a galaxy is not compact enough to keep the wave from being washed out. Hoag's core is more compact than it appears.
too much theory and speculation. I just hope they stay true to the "science" of experiments and take full heart to what gets discovered and proved instead of wasting more and more time trying to prove something that was completely wrong int he first place (which a lot of people do with the General Theory of Relativity).
So... The General Theory of Relativity is wrong..!?
One has to theorise before experimenting! If we didn't, we would have nothing to look for! Science and theorising predicted the Gluon, and then they looked for it and found it.. If it wasn't predicted, we wouldn't have found it!
Without the theorising part of science, it would be like looking for something, without knowing what to look for!
It's been changed around a lot to suit someones specific needs for a specific theory and so there are several theories of relativity. I just don't agree with a lot of science that is only theory based on other theories.
"Scientists are working hard to arrive at a Quantum THEORY of Gravity, a Universal THEORY that will work everywhere in the Cosmos."
Of course we're trying to find the Quantum Theory of gravity! It'll explain almost everything! And if it just is that you dislike the word "theory", go die... ;)
Yes, all particles have an antiparticle, even bosons! There may actually exist a gravitino and an anti-gravitino too! They are hypothetical sparticles predicted by supersymmetry... ;)
Why is the graviton assumed to be a neutral bosonic particle???
when according to Randall /Sundrum and string (m) theory its the only truly multi-dimensional closed-ended particle. Why classify its characteristics with the other open-ended strings bound to our (men)brane??? Besides by doing that it eliminates any chance of anti-gravitons and any chance of graviton annihilation!!!....and thats no fun!!!
BILLMYK1 3 days ago
Since gravity bahaves like electromagnetism and is a result of the deformations and stress in spacetime by massive bodies ideally gravity is easily like radiation now common sense would say find the massive bodies which produce the most distrubances in spactime stars? yes? what kind? Neutron Stars Why? cause out of all compact stars besides Black Holes these stars still have a huge remain of their previous state(main sequence star) and actually gain more energy in momentum in their orbits
jd55513 1 month ago
I wish the same amount of money used on the bail out was available to put towards the biggest particle accelerator ever.
antipodeandreason 6 months ago 2
but the General theory of Relativity explains gravity not as a "force" but as the curvature in the space-time caused by heavy masses.
iTube4ux 6 months ago
@Accisma You wouldn't say "Us are dumb," would you? Of course not. So when you add "earth humans" to it, that doesn't change anything. "Us Earth humans are dumb" is bad grammar.
IseeRightThrough2you 7 months ago
Gravity (gravitational radiation/gravitons) can be manufactured.
This is why "abductees" dont float around on the space craft like dumb NASA astronauts.
If one can generate the gravitational radiation that produces gravity then they could have gravity anywhere they want (on space crafts, on small moons, small space stations, etc)
Space, time, and all known forces in physics can be manipulated if you have enough technology and knowledge.
Us Earth humans are DUMB. Case Closed.
buffboynick 8 months ago 3
@buffboynick Us Earth humans are DUMB?
First of all, it's "WE earth humans are dumb."
Second of all, speak for yourself!
IseeRightThrough2you 8 months ago 2
@IseeRightThrough2you
as a "whole" we're not where we should be as a species. Some are smart, but as a "mass" we are a destructive and ignorant species.
We need to wake up and demand the governments do their job and stay out of our business
buffboynick 8 months ago
The Graviton exists, the Andromedans already proved that a LONG time ago
It comes from gravitational radiation emitted from stars (like our sun) and is the reason why all planets close enough in proximity to a star revolve around that star.
The gravitational pull from the gravitons inside gravitational radiation is what causes planets to orbit our sun. Planets with atmospheres (like Earth) have the ability to regulate these gravitons more effectively then ones without an atmosphere.
buffboynick 8 months ago 3
@buffboynick If only stars produce gravitons, why are they using a particle accelerator to look for them. Your comments belittle the ingenuity of humans.
lethalsub 8 months ago
LHC lol whats it been now ....how long I forgot that thing was even around probebly because they know its a flop and they just cant edmit it
jomill78 10 months ago
if the graviton exists, would we ever run out of them ?..
I mean if its a particle the flows in one direction,, could its source get empty; and also as like electric; what counter force would it naturally have ?
I wonder maybe gravity isnt a main force but rather a side effect, resulting out of quantum mechanics and statistics or some mix of time and light and dimensions..
qwertasd7 10 months ago
I dont believe the graviton exists,thats why they cant find it.I believe gravity is just a left over differential energy beetween two compeeting forces,like the magnetic field and the earth spinning.If on a hot summer day a cloud comes along and cools down a pach of sky,the wind blows,energy moves,because of the hot and cold difference.If you heat up glass and trow it into freezing water it will break.that energy witch caused it to break is a differential energy betwenn two forces competiing.
affilinet 1 year ago
@limerence18 I really hope that I can have a chance to read your theory, it seems very interesting.
leemanjoo 1 year ago
AMAZING NEW THERORY!!!!! I MAY HAVE AN EXPLAINATION!!!!!
The Membrane or the Plain Of Existence that we are now is joined to other parallel universes through black holes. Our neighboring parallel universes have black holes in exactly the same place as the black holes in our universe.. Like a giant suctionstraw at both ends of each parallel universe matter and light is sucked in to feed the expansion and space between parallel universes. Black holes feedDARK ENERGY.lancedavidson(A)rocketmail,com
Ihateglenbeck 1 year ago
Fermilab: Making mass leave our universe VIDEO PROOF and creating a new diamention.>an ABBYSS. The missing mass collapses down the space created is a new universe. it has it's own time but speeded up relative to ours. a data transfer laser will be used to send data to this 'diamention' at CERN. Predicted >it will absorb photons and absorb energy.
paul07575031532 1 year ago
surely if the graviton existed then it would be in it's own gravity and would disappear almost instantly? think about it, the earth is travelling round the sun at 15,000 miles an hour and is rotating at about 1000 miles an hour, if a graviton could be created then it would simply stand still while we on earth would carry on moving away from it at high speed, this is why we cannot see it, the experiment needs to be done in space out of orbit.
markzilla6969 1 year ago
@markzilla6969 There's no such thing as "stand still". That was the whole point of relativity.
HebaruSan 1 year ago
@HebaruSan fair point but surely it would follow it's own path in the expansion of the universe rather than follow the path of the earth if it was in its own gravitational field? just throwing it out there, i know sod all about physics/astro physics etc, just trying to look at it logically.
markzilla6969 1 year ago
the ultimate problem is explain the huge variation of masses in quantum mech,
if you can explain this masses,you have the most important part of Theory of everything,Final theory,GUT...,quantum mech.
Rogertbs 1 year ago
Missing Gravitons = Dark Energy/Matter
jcap623 1 year ago
why can't you say that if energy appears to disappear that a graviton has been observed and therefore exist
McBeefsupreme 1 year ago
@McBeefsupreme
for a number of reasons, one of being a mistakely lost energy, and the other is, that observing energy loss is energy loss and not a graviton, neither a boson or a imaginarion
haistapaska20 1 year ago
Seems rather convoluted and expensive. I'm gonna laugh if they can't find higgs.
BLEOS33 1 year ago
Think about throwing a dart in the air. Then stopping time. When you unpause time, how does dart know in what direction and how fast it will go there? I think graviton has also some part in explaining that.
TehRasia 1 year ago
@TehRasia How would the stopping of time affect the force that has already happened.
BLEOS33 1 year ago
I thought that simply the PRESSENCE of matter creates gravity.
leahcimrac 1 year ago
@leahcimrac me thinks people wanna know why there's a presence.
BLEOS33 1 year ago
Had a spooky ending, like something bad was going to happen.
gaynorglowellxsingh 1 year ago
I liked it but it had a spooky ending. Like something could go wrong.
gaynorglowellxsingh 1 year ago
sbergman is right.
creationism is ridiculous.
people are so self-centered that they need to believe that there is a god and that they are special. i've got news. the stories people tell about magical mosters in the sky like JESUS and SANTA are just stories. get real people. lets learn to love and how not to fight.
hydrojaydog 2 years ago
Then what is feelings. Why is it that, in most of us, we have feelings combined with a conscience. A mechanism that tells you what you can't do and what you can do naturally.
Im not Religious but you got to admit that feelings is a construction in some sort in us humans that are there for us to get a perspective of life and this planet, atleast. If not, people wouldn´t fall in love and make babies.
Not saying its proof, but points towards something is behind it and want's it to continue.
nils4545 1 year ago
3:30 - So some of the brightest brains in the world are picking up and leaving the US because we've fallen behind in high energy physics, as public education continues to deteriorate, and the most salient battles in that area revolve around getting more creationism taught in schools.
The Superconducting Supercollider would have cost Americans less than about a third of a penny per day over its service life. But why study how the Universe came to be when you can read People magazine, instead?
sbergman27 2 years ago
they don't really teach creationism, do they?
hydrojaydog 2 years ago
@hydrojaydog: I'm not certain. I'm sure they do in some places. In Texas, where these things are decided once for the whole state, there was a serious push for teaching "Intelligent Design" along side Evolution. (Proponents pretend that there are "two sides" to this "debate".) Fortunately, sanity prevailed. But it could easily have gone the other way. (Powerful lobbies.) It's all very scary here in the US. Many of our citizens are completely loony. But they have a vote like everyone else.
sbergman27 2 years ago
i live in the usa. there are times when i sit back and wonder how the religious stories were sold to the masses. it must be the though of an afterlife, lol. what a promise, to live forever... it's akin to me saying, "listen bergman, you just keep on being miserable here on earth, and when you die, you will go to this wonderful place where everyone you love will be and where you will enjoy everlasting bliss."
why not try to make a heaven here, where at least we know that it is for sure?
hydrojaydog 2 years ago
@hydrojaydog: I think that many (most?) people have a fundamental issue with the prospect of ceasing to exist. That's probably the most powerful driver for religion. Then there is the "sports" aspect of it that ties into the old "Us vs Them" thing in our evolution. People gravitate toward "us vs them" thinking. And, of course, there's "this is the way I learned it" crowd. And the stronger version we can call the "You callin' my momma a liar!?" set.
Truth is not always pleasant. So people deny.
sbergman27 2 years ago
@hydrojaydog: One other point about immortality. It's the only thing that scares me more than ceasing to exist:
"""
Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon. -Susan Ertz, Anger in the Sky
"""
Think about it. We should be careful what we wish for...
sbergman27 2 years ago
@sbergman27 i wouldn't care about being immortal if things weren't boring.
BLEOS33 1 year ago
@hydrojaydog I completely agree 100%
- Jakeem Ortiz
limerence18 1 year ago
Following up on the last point, for each graviton to have both graviton and anti-graviton properties (so it can be its own anti-particle as the standard model suggests) it seems the graviton must eventually cycle to an opposite phase, but there is no minimum rate at which this has to happen - it could take tens of thousands of years, for example, and this would fit very close in effect to Newtonian gravity at all but cosmological-scaled distances.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
For photons being their own anti-particles, the closest analogue I can imagine to a matter-antimatter pair is two photons with opposite phases going in opposite directions, though they do not collide but instead simply pass through each-other - which is the closest all-photon analogue I can think of for an matter/anti-matter particle collision that yields only photons.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
the video effects are so epic.
cassandra5322 2 years ago
Wow!
mrqsilveira 2 years ago
What I was trying to say is that the extradimensionality could be reduced to apparatus-enveloping modes of transmission. As the graviton presumably has less energy than the energy of the smallest particle with mass, effective tranmission modes presumably are in waves much greater than an apparatus-enveloping scale. Neutrinos oscillate with a wavelength comparable to Earth's orbit, for example. The point here is to dispense with more arcane concepts of extradimensionality.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
If you have an energy mode large enough to cover the entire LHC apparatus uniformly then it will probably register as lost energy.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
Wow, this was just getting good...where's the rest?
shanating 2 years ago
No doubt gravitons have tiny hooks, like button hooks, which latch on to the fabric of space making it curve in on itself in opposition to the natural tendency of space to expand under the force of dark energy.
urbanverificationist 2 years ago
ok stupid question, if Gravitons exist does that mean we could generate them? if so does that mean we could have artificial gravity or for that mater anti gravity?
dalekStewie 2 years ago
@dalekStewie I beg you different your question is an excellent one, and yes I think this would be the next step once we see them, we can study them, and then the step would be to isolate them, and as in physics for every Matter there is an Antimatter
e.g. Positron-Electron Nutron-Antinutreno
and when these particles collide they anhilate and evergy is release.
So yes, to your question
it is far fetched, but very possible.
Grtz,
T.
tusharip 2 years ago
Well, not all particles have their antimatter counterpart. Massless photons do not, (well being exact, the antiparticle for photon is photon). And gravitons, by all we know, should also be antiparticles for themselves.
noclipus5 2 years ago
@noclipus5
thanks for the information but are photons really their own antimatter? I thought that photons are not real particle nor not really a wave meaning they are not really a matter just energy so if so the graviton must be also only energy or a sort of matter we have not incountered yet, if it has so much force that acts as the gravity force, this is very interesting I wish to know more about this, maybe one day..
tusharip 2 years ago
One of Einstein's insights tells us that matter and energy are different forms of same thing (they are interchangeable).
The problem with graviton isn`t really creating it, but detecting it. I heard that graviton-measuring device with weight of 1000 kilotons orbiting a standard neutron star would only detect one graviton / 10 years, when working on 100%.
We already have few gravitational waves detectors on Earth. We only need something to create those waves (like collision of two black holes).
noclipus5 2 years ago
We already have both of these things.
trivmoc 2 years ago
If the LHC does not have enough energy to produce the graviton, I wonder if our government would be willing to resume the Superconducting Super Collider near Dallas TX. I wish it wasn't canceled in 1993. It would have been a 40TeV Collider instead of the 14TeV LHC.
quarx303 2 years ago 2
40 TeV !!!! Thats SOME amount of energy!!!!
yamjayamjabulba 2 years ago
Maybe at a quantum level but in reality its just 6.4x10-6 J
jackofwack 2 years ago
oooooo yeah ...everything is texas is bigger? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
sidewaysfcs0718 2 years ago
What will happen if LHC does not have enough energy to produce graviton?
Would they say graviton is not real or start to build a new one with much more energy?
Did they estimated the energy required for creation of graviton?
In my opinion the clues are everywhere with in our universe you just need to know what applies to what.
sonnydey 2 years ago
E=MC^2
M=E/C^2
C^2=E/M
C=(E/M)^(1/2)
C=(μ0 ε0)^(-1/2)
C^2=(μ0 ε0)^-1
E/M=(μ0 ε0)^-1
And finally...
M/E = μ0 ε0
The mass-energy ratio of the universe is proportional to the product of the magnetic and electric field constants of nature. It's constant, it's conserved. There may also be a conservation law of space-time that somehow relates to mass-energy.
55t1 2 years ago
There is no Graviton
I have found out the true cause of gravity,
that also explains what time is, why relativity is wrong, and what mass is. This theory debunks the existence of the graviton, higgs boson, string theory, any dimension beyond four and the idea that space can be bent.
- limerence18
limerence18 2 years ago
Such a big statement with no reference or explanation to back it up.
Please, Spare us.
JWilko75 2 years ago
Trust me JWilko75 I would never make such a bold statement without any evidence to back it up. My theory explains Newtons Laws in full detail and offers a classical explanation for the effect of gravity without the use of an ether or other hypothetical substance. Instead my theory offers a complete explantion for the cause and effect of gravity and leaves no questions { as it fully explains all of them }. As of now I am in the process of trying to publish my theory.
- limerence18
limerence18 2 years ago
Well I look forward to reading it.
JWilko75
JWilko75 2 years ago
Thanks JWilko75
I hope you have a lot of patience though, it will be alot of time before its out there, considering patenting my theory, publishing my book. Total time should take most definately less than three years. Trust me you will most definately like what you see, I guarantee it.
- limerence18
- Jakeem Ortiz
P.S. I'm giving myself too much time for just-in-case instances. Total time should actually take at most a year and a half.
limerence18 2 years ago
I really hope there is no mention of God or Jesus in your theory.
Cheers
JWilko75 2 years ago 15
i hope there is mention of God or Guru Gobind Singh Ji, dick
OldaurGold 2 years ago
@JWilko75
wait, did you say "Goditon"?
northbeachfilms 1 year ago
@JWilko75 That books already been published, about 2000 years ago. Made no sense.
edy52285 7 months ago
so is this going to be 1 of the greatest scientists on the world???
so maybe v r da ones who saw this scientist when he was nt special!!!!!
i hope u suceed , every1 shud be given a chance of speaking his/her opinion....
yamjayamjabulba 2 years ago
To yamjayamjabulba:
Perhaps, we shall soon see for ourselves
Thanks!
- limerence18
limerence18 2 years ago
@limerence18 It's been 7 months, bud. What are you doing now, praying? X-)
ShallowThoughts 1 year ago
@ShallowThoughts I have accomplished so much in my time, In 2011 my theory will be published and as i have claimed will be the start of a Paradigm Shift. You'll see.
- Jakeem Ortiz
limerence18 1 year ago
@limerence18 Nope. I really won't. And through no fault or deficiency of my own, either.
ShallowThoughts 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@limerence18 You should probably read "The Alternative-Science Respectability Checklist" before trying to publish:
tinyurl . com /cdchq8 (remove spaces)
sbergman27 1 year ago
@limerence18
just tell us now. we don't want to wait for no stinkin' paper.
northbeachfilms 1 year ago
@northbeachfilms I have to get credit for it, so I cant just tell you.
- Jakeem Ortiz
limerence18 1 year ago
Forman6 1 year ago
@limerence18 i got a theory that they wont find a graviton which i probably cant explain in the 378 characters i got left
uut0 1 year ago
@uut0 A theory is merely an interpretation of how the evnts occur, If even one explntion is not representative of Nature then the theory is bound to fall part, however it takes time to see the flaws and at that more modifications and correct predictions give some theories the illusion that it may be representative of Nature. If you solve for gravity in an algebraic perspective however the cards change, and that's exactly what I did. Next year a paradigm shift is in the making.
- Jakeem Ortiz
limerence18 1 year ago
@limerence18 true, unfortunately i aint a good enough mathematician to do so.
uut0 1 year ago
@limerence18 What are your credentials?
TickTockTall 1 year ago
@limerence18 While youre at it, can you explain to us the truth of the Mary Celeste, Kurt Cobains death, Area51 and who actually shot JFK? :-I
zenovara 1 year ago
the basics of his theory exists on Wiki...
freetothinkify 2 years ago
Yea I noticed you deleted the other comment. I guess you realized the internet didn't exist at the time. It's okay, we all make silly mistakes.
But scientists being paranoid, well, it depends. The gov't gives us reason to be paranoid if you ask me.
opiates 2 years ago
Oh Wiki now there's a credible source.... NOT!
JWilko75 2 years ago
no, I was just saying it exists. I didn't mean anything else.
freetothinkify 2 years ago
Supposedly Tesla came up with a Unified Theory, but the feds took his work and made it classified. Go figure.
opiates 2 years ago
Where can this information be found?
JWilko75 2 years ago
Look it up, you'll find it everywhere. I don't know if it's true or not, but I wouldn't be surprised.
opiates 2 years ago
probably/
albertaforalbertans 2 years ago
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freetothinkify 2 years ago
A question I have is that even if the gravitational field can be a 2nd-rank tensor, does that really mean that each graviton has to be spin-2, or should a combination of non-spin-2 gravitons coming from various angles create the tensor field at a point.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
No idea why the graviton couldn't be spin-1 or spin-0.
A spin-0 graviton might have the gravity force vector merely oscillating along a single plane, to produce the needed wave property, as it propagates.
The vector-sum of the photon's E and M vectors rotates in space in a way that I'll suppose for now matches the spin-1 property of the photon.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
I'll suppose spin-2 gravitons for the moment. No idea how they made it into the standard model, however.
The simplest thing I can come up with for spin-2 is two counterrotating unitary-magnitude force-vectors, but I'd like to avoid a true zero-sum phase, so I'll assume that when the supposed counterrotating gravity force vectors of a graviiton are opposed (rotated 90 degrees from alighment) they are both still somehow manifested in various absorbtion events.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
The graviton is supposedly spin-2 because the gravitational field is a 2nd-order tensor field.
side note: Two linearly-polarized photons apparently can be combined with a 90 degree phase difference to form circularly-polarized light, where the E vector rotates.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
Meant to add that the helicities (left or right -handed) of circularly polarized photons are +/-h components of photon spin angular momentum (sqrt 2)h, along the direction of photon motion, though this angular momentum is independent of frequency.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
You really seem to know your physics. Very impressive. Are you a physicist?
opiates 2 years ago
@opiates:
No, I'm not a physicist. It's a hobby. I had a couple of years of physics in college, the same courses as physics majors took. The rest was mostly electrical engineering, I switched majors after my second year of chemical engineering. In EE we studied the Lagrangian (energy balance) for low-energy systems, and quite a lot of electromagnetics.
... Which leads me to suspect that the so-called extradimensionality of lost energy is analogous to an antenna that is too small to work.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
BIG BANG> OH Please...
CCARema1 2 years ago
The idea I had is to take the gravitational flux rule that is Newton's law of gravity and quantize it in carriers with extremely low energy and thus long wavelength. By averaging over every rotation plane, it's apparent that multiplication of classical gravity by a cosine with a wavelength close to the diameter of Hoag's galaxy explains the ring as a stable structure and why so many younger gaxies apparently have rings. Spin-2 may refer to this E+M plane-orthogonal vector rotation w.r.t. path.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
My suggestion is that the anti-graviton is a graviton with a force fector that has rotated 180 degrees to become an antigravity-type force, it replaces the cosmological constant. Photon force vectors rotate proportional to the energy of the photon, so we should expect the gravity force vector to rotate very slowly. Hoag's galaxy gives an idea of the scale. Normally the center of a galaxy is not compact enough to keep the wave from being washed out. Hoag's core is more compact than it appears.
CACBCCCU 2 years ago
too much theory and speculation. I just hope they stay true to the "science" of experiments and take full heart to what gets discovered and proved instead of wasting more and more time trying to prove something that was completely wrong int he first place (which a lot of people do with the General Theory of Relativity).
Nice vid - thanks!
wonderlandink 2 years ago
So... The General Theory of Relativity is wrong..!?
One has to theorise before experimenting! If we didn't, we would have nothing to look for! Science and theorising predicted the Gluon, and then they looked for it and found it.. If it wasn't predicted, we wouldn't have found it!
Without the theorising part of science, it would be like looking for something, without knowing what to look for!
Thymonico 2 years ago
It's been changed around a lot to suit someones specific needs for a specific theory and so there are several theories of relativity. I just don't agree with a lot of science that is only theory based on other theories.
"Scientists are working hard to arrive at a Quantum THEORY of Gravity, a Universal THEORY that will work everywhere in the Cosmos."
wonderlandink 2 years ago
Of course we're trying to find the Quantum Theory of gravity! It'll explain almost everything! And if it just is that you dislike the word "theory", go die... ;)
Thymonico 2 years ago
EPIC! I have so much respect for these scientists.
9Charnel 2 years ago 2
Excellent.Can't wait to see what the LHC turns up!
Adamart3 3 years ago 2
If exists an graviton.Exists an antigraviton too?
kinderteller 3 years ago
Yes, all particles have an antiparticle, even bosons! There may actually exist a gravitino and an anti-gravitino too! They are hypothetical sparticles predicted by supersymmetry... ;)
Thymonico 2 years ago
I hope in a way we don't find the graviton. It would be like the coyote catching the road runner.
antiparticlesteve 3 years ago