Mabinogi TW - Dorren's Request + Fireball Exp Grind (G9S2)

[iReayna]

TW's Magic casting seems much more sexier than US's. US one is gey. :<

[Twilly159]

You shoulda put atleast one chaincast. :o

[BMJakeu]

Whats the name of that robe?

[ROFLPEDIA]

Pot eater D:

[ooofff122896]

NOOOOOOO! I'm thunder :( will it still work?

[xelvenknight]

nice modd, with the fireball

[Paladinforeverjohn]

Hey is that a lock on your robe inv? And what is your guild called lol its something in English can't really see it x.x

[waternogi]

@Paladinforeverjohn Yeah its a lock, you won't drop it/lose it with it on. Although you need to use a cash item to remove it. The guild is literally "English" lol.

[Paladinforeverjohn]

@waternogi lol thats really funny. Wish I played on TW, then i would join lol. Thanks for the response.

[ooofff122896]

@waternogi Um, sooo i was thinking of soloing this mission with R1 Thunder. O.o (I am looking for crocodile burn, and 111k exp is yum) On Adv Difficulty. Are the ingredients a very common drop?

[ZDavi3]

too bad in the NA server no exp is given for these monsters x.x

[MabiEImination]

What do you think of the capabilities of doing this on hard mode?

[byakuyabou]

This robe give something special? I mean, i see lots of videos people using this robe and in 90% it's broken 'o'

[waternogi]

@byakuyabou

Its a popular robe because its pretty expensive/high class on most servers. Not repairing it is just not wanting it to lose durability from repairs. This applies to most robes since robes don't do anything.

I also like it because of the "slim" look compared to all the other robes. The fancier robes don't look as good in the long term and I always end up going back to this one.

[IHelpNexon]

@waternogi do they have a robe like that for male?

[jimmynloi]

NA Mabinogi Fails. No Nao's from Service and no elixirs

[zekada]

what kinda robe is that?

[soulkiller32]

wow u ppl argue 4 nothing.

[usuckmoron]

lmao i love that

gaining mana while charging fireball

[Sabaku303]

after watchin this for like the 3rd time its like B>fb page 10 now it dosent wanna drop for me after 10runs lol

[CrumpetsDeluxe]

lol will The fireball from Cylinders do well at all i havent heard much about how thouse adv magic skills work

[waternogi]

The damage is decent, but not for this.

It is pretty useful when you want the fireball effect (or any adv magic) but the actual fireball is overkill (i.e rabbie adv, mass of runda rats, shooting over enemy barriers to lure aggro)

The damage depends mainly on the Mana Forming rank, the Crystal rank (which depends on Mana Forming and Fireball rank to make), and then Alchemy mastery rank (I have not actually tested this one).

[waternogi]

As for the actual damage:

Rank 7 Mana Forming, Rank 3 Alchemy Mastery, Rank 4 Crystal, deals 1.2k damage with 8 second cast.

Someone told me R1 of all three is around 2k damage.

I will not be able to get back to you on this for a while as Mana Forming and Alchemy Mastery are both really painful to train.

[drantino]

@waternogi just a little side comment for NA they renamed it to mana crystalization.

[Mulekeep]

Here's to hoping that NA get the awesomely nerfed version of this (0 exp ftw). Some idiots decided to modify the game dlls and gave themselves chaincasting Fireball >_>;

[Daikamaitachi]

It isn't chain casting. Just charge once and fire as if you had five charges.

[ProjectPatLtd]

@Daikamaitachi which is pretty much chaincasting since it counts for 5 charges

[Daikamaitachi]

No. Fireball DLL specifically says:

Compare Charges, 5

If charges are this number, Shoot.

You mod it to say

Compare Charges 1.

If charges are this number or greater, shoot.

[ProjectPatLtd]

@Daikamaitachi it still counts for 5. the DLL doesnt change the games code making different charge values since FB doesnt have that. so its pretty much chaincasting unless you think the modders hack the server and rewrit the game code to make different charge dmgs

[Daikamaitachi]

Chain Casting is the act of charging multiple charges of a spell.

1 Charge Fireball is doing only ONE charge of fireball (25 MP, not 125 as it would be if chainable).

And second you DO rewrite the code or whatever in Skill.DLL.

When casting an unmodded fireball the game says "Okay he's doing this skill. What are the guidelines for this skill? Do not fire until 5 charges. 25 MP Per charge. Must have Fire Wand."

Modded fireball is "Fire whenever. 25 MP per charge. You need a Fire Wand."

[xxxSaskue26]

daika chaincasting only works for bolts not adv magics

[Daikamaitachi]

I know this, and I never said Chain casting worked for ADV magic.

[Daikamaitachi]

Remember, mods work on ANYTHING client sided. As long as the game requires to look at YOUR client for how things are supposed to run, you can change it to however. Now some things are server sided, hence why you can't pull out a cross bow and hit something 3000 distance away (No SoG talk). It's also why if this user wanted to, she could change her robe to Cichol's. Why? Because the game has to look at her dlls for what it's supposed to look like. However everyone else sees her normally.

[drantino]

@Mulekeep its not chain cast it lets thim use it at one charge

[drantino]

in a lower version of this you can get 400+100 exp per kill and its basicly a small golem at that point somone in another vid did it and they where useing golem summon skill to get ever set of golems in 1 shoot. the person was doing it so fast it would probly be faster then yours.

[waternogi]

Yeah, it can be faster using a golem for lower, but averaging 4 seconds per set takes a lot of focus (or 3 seconds if comparing with ideal-case fireball rate).

Alternatively, self rock-throw + windmill works too.

I find fireball to be the more relaxing method for grinding though.

[drantino]

@waternogi with the golem thing its more OMG OMG OMG cind of thing but ya the Fball is a good way to.

[waternogi]

Actually to correct myself, I just realized 400+100exp is the reduced rate, which makes my previous estimates above more exaggerated lol.

[drantino]

@waternogi o wow no kidden there.(lawl instant replay on both ends)

[waternogi]

Yep lol.

[drantino]

@waternogi i just realized some people use ceo for TH traning even know its extramly deadly it would also be a good place, well training skills in general i gess.

[waternogi]

I guess it a good place, but the combat power of the golems there is pretty low compared to the danger lol.

On the other hand, most shadow mission monsters have ridiculously high combat power even though they're really weak.

[drantino]

@waternogi ya ive noticed that most of the vids of the shadow missions are cinda week no matter what difficulty your doing because i hit reletively the same dmg as most of the other people minus the fact that my total is close to 400.

[TagUtoAsia]

This you're elf?

[waternogi]

Human.

[Trickybomb]

This is 100+ levels of epic-uber-meganess.

/grindsfireballto1

[coolkid1331]

off topic but what robe is that

[waternogi]

Halloween witch robe.

[Gentrone]

Do you think a high rank of thunder will work here?

[waternogi]

They have PD so it's less effective and dangerous.

Its not impossible, but the exp rate will be slower because of the counter-measures you have to take:

- use protective walls, will need a lot

- or windmill after casting every thunder.

- or pet mount aggro cancel

- etc

[Gentrone]

Well thanks for your answer. Then I'll consider it before putting myself in such a dangerous situation xD.

If fireball is more suitable here, where do you think thunder would work for the same amount of experience?

I ask this because I have ranked thunder and err well it doesn't feel good that your most powerful spell doesn't work for gaining large amounts of exp. lol

And by the time G9 comes out I don't think my fireball will be rank 5+

[waternogi]

You can try the other poles of the same mission, the other monsters don't PD.

As for the same amount of experience, nothing will really match up to it. This is the reason that the exp for this was nerfed twice, once to 2/3 original exp and a second time to 0 exp.

[gamaxbb]

are u chaincasting fireball O_O?

[waternogi]

Nope, I just editted the out the rest of the casts. Its still 5 casts, but the pheonix wand makes each cast faster.

[gamaxbb]

wow hehe nice editing barely could tell u editted it :D 5/5 btw

[gangstanaruto3]

cool! and nice inventory! XD i should set mines up like how you organized it lol

[omfgalexgotmoves]

r1 falcon with r1 fireball with r1 semi god and my lvl 30 str ego fire wand good for this?

[RightsOfDeath]

I dont think any of that matters except for the fireball rank o_O

[Duntime]

Lies Show us a video

[Geico5550]

Im curious, does it really matter what rank your trying to do this in? (i noticed you included Adv rank at top)

[waternogi]

Well, the best exp is at adv rank. Lower ranks give less exp and highest difficulty golems can't be killed with a non-crit fireball.

[Geico5550]

oh no, im about to enter hardmode T.T

[waternogi]

You can go into the lower levels for non-mainstream missions like these.

[Geico5550]

srsly? O.O YES :D

(btw, ty for your quick responses :3)

[KiaranimeIchi]

wow is ur rank fireball is rank 1? Over here in us :/

we r still in g7 not fair D: but anyways wat is this place o.o i know its near tara?

[waternogi]

Yeah, this place is Taillteann from g9. Its north of Emain and west of Dugald Aisle.

[Konyoshi]

Where exactly did you get the phoenix firewand, anyways?

[waternogi]

Most of the magic NPC's will sell them when they are released.

[DimJim86]

Is that why u only have to charge twice to fire a fireball? cuz usually u need 5 times. is there like chain cast with advanced magic?

[BobYoMeowMeow]

LOL NO >_>

The phoenix fire wand has speed cast upgrades. Reduces Casting time by 40%. So it'll only take 16 seconds to charge a fireball. Waternogi just removes parts where he's charging the fireball again

[brian10940]

omg havent played mabinogi in sooo long my character sucks though like level six or something xD if you can can you help me?

[Falmosta]

Were the golems boss to your character or lower?

[waternogi]

Boss.

[Falmosta]

Awesome that would make getting the fireball master title easier.

[Falmosta]

The bad part is Ceo golems are Awful to me o-o

[cobiwanskill]

How much does this x50000% mp booster cost? O_O

[lightwing5000]

what kind of grapics card u using!?

[BobYoMeowMeow]

water, why fireball and not thunder?

[waternogi]

High rank thunder has long delay before the bolts. They will PD and likely massacre you before your thunder strikes them.

Plus thunder won't hit all of them when they're split pretty far.

[Dragon501dm]

Man, this is pretty godly. The music is great and so is the video. You should make more videos, cause your so pro. :P

[ScorpiaProduction]

One question, What are mana elixers and how do i get them?

[waternogi]

Elixers are daily items that replace those recovery potions. They give a 50000% recovery increase for mana/life/stamina depending on which kind.

Mana elixer lasts for 5 minutes, but will last 1/5 as long if you have mana shield on.

[Zaros105]

Are you chain casting, or is it a higher charging speed that i cant see all the charges?

[waternogi]

I edited some of the video because it was just all casting. A real full cast is shown in the beginning.

[Jiuhin]

Wow that's crazy getting lots of exp in a single hour. =D.

[TWShadowfox32]

Hahaha! You actually did make a video about it!

Man... I wish I had fireball, but I need to work on Ice spear still, and refine (if anyone gets me ores).

Nice video, Water. =3

[fruitnogi]

How much HP have those golems?

[waternogi]

1800.

[Goldeneagle010]

Nice quality o.o

[shidera2]

Nice video, Water. I saw some videos like these on nico, and I was wondering what they were about, lol.

By the way, if you don't mind me asking, what were you wearing in the video, and why does your robe have that small icon in the corner?

[waternogi]

It's one of the Christmas premium newbie clothes for elves.

The icon locks equipment to your account, kind of like anti-theft if your account gets hacked, or if you don't want to accidentally lose it.

Lock seals are sold at general store NPC's.

[WesternSakura]

That actually sounds useful, but how much are they, and do they actually prevent you from dropping the items like holy water does? or do they just keep you from manually unequipping them?

[waternogi]

3k each. I'm not sure about dropping, you can unequip them, but they cannot be traded away, sold to the NPC, burned in fire, or destroyed in any way. (Of course I haven't actually tested these things lol).

The effect lasts for a very long time, no message about wearing out after a month, so I wouldn't use it on stuff I want to put on pets or get rid of.

[WesternSakura]

Ooo~ one more question, are they only for equipment or can you lock other stuff, cause that sounds like it would be useful for not dropping gold bags onto dungeon alters.

[waternogi]

Equipment only unfortunately.

[williamwzl]

Oh man ima lock every single thing thats worth over 100k to me. I got hacked once already that lock wouldve helped soooo well.

[RyuOhisama]

Where can I go to find info on the new wands?

It's not on the dumb NA wiki. D:

[waternogi]

Pretty much all magic NPCs will sell them.

[pohkaila]

lol thats some crazy pot... awesome video~