I aggree with this video, however, it must be noted that these scriptures are translated very differently depending on which translation you are looking at. I have looked at many translations recently, regarding these specific passages, and a few others, and they do not all say the same thing. Some say that the angels were told to "worship" Jesus, others say "bow down to" Jesus, other say "do obesence to," yet others ommit this as well as other parts that make Jesus seem to be Jehovah.
@jamesandchante "Some say that the angels were told to "worship" Jesus"
Which ALL amount to the same thing in the Greek. The Roman Catholic Church for years denied they worship Mary claiming to only do "obeisance" but it didn't wash. The Watch Tower tries to play word games all the time. They like to misquote Col 2:9 as the fullness of "godlike quality" instead of the godhood. But merely twisting the scriptures cannot erase the truth of Christ's full divinity. God bless you sister.
lol, 40,000 denominations of christianity worldwide, each with its own interpretation of words written by carnal minds masquerading as eternal truths. There is no consensus, and indicates that christianity is experiencing its death throes through the fragmentation of the church.
@Blogrich55 you know what the minds is, and you know the relationship between the brain and the mind. You also know that people are carnal creations and that our minds are carnal. Some people think they can define our Creator. People are arrogant and narcissistic in believing that a carnal mind with finite intellect, finite knowledge, and finite vocabularies can define infinite things. How much more arrogant are people who claim they understand matters eternal? - Eernally more!!!!!!
@ReligionlessFAITH "How much more arrogant are people who claim they understand matters eternal?"
This is why presuppositional apologists such as Dr Gordon H Clark take the Bible as their axiom. They deduce everything from that. The Bible is God's revelation of truth to man. If God reveals something, it does NOT require an infinite mind on our part to understand.
The materialistic atheist denies ALL non-material reality. He thinks the mind is nothing more than electrical/chemical processes.
@Blogrich55 Clark forgets that the Creator is well able to make anything He has to say known directly and instantaneously without the need for paper and ink nor clay tablets or stone etchings. A carnal mind taints any eternal truth the moment such truth is revealed to it and distorts it beyond recognition in trying to translate the eternal language with a carnal vocabulary.. When people put carnal words in the mouth of an eternal Creator, the stench of such narcissistic arrogance disgusts me.
@ReligionlessFAITH "Clark forgets that the Creator is well able to make anything He has to say known directly and instantaneously without the need for paper and ink nor clay tablets or stone etchings..."
WOW what a hotbed of emotionalism, false doctrine, and arrogant self-centeredness. YOU disgust ME with your NeoQuaker nonsense. Let's all just sit in a circle singing Kumbaya and wait for the Holy Spirit to shake us and give us the word for today.
@Blogrich55 the arrogance lies with people who ASSUME their intellet superior to that of the Creator. Such people invent clever ways to disguise thier arrogance but the Truth can not be hidden. The truth is that an omnicient Creator knew before he created us how much righteousness He would give us and that we would do exactly what He created us to do. Arrogant people ASSUME carnal inventions can bribe favour from the Creator. Arrogant people resort to insults when their arrogance is exposed.
@Blogrich55 from your previous quote above "The Bible is God's revelation of truth to man. If God reveals something, it does NOT require an infinite mind on our part to understand." You ASSUME the bible is God's revelation. Your arrogance is revealed when you deny a perfect omnicient Creator by accepting religious inventions which deny the Creator's omniscience. Religion defines god. This turns the eternal to the finite. It's arrogant and it's wrong. It's a mockery of eternal TRUTH.
If they were one please translate this for me then... Luke 22:42 "saying: "Father, if you wish, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place." ? Would one not consider the fact that Jesus was God's son, God-Almighty, would he not have bestowed some of his power to his son? Super human power compared to a mere mortal man.
@TheJennywest "If they were one..." They are the same GOD but NOT the same Person. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity teaches that ONE GOD (Deut 6:4) exists as 3 distinct person. The Father is NOT the Son in human form. This nonsense is the heresy of modalism as taught by the Apostolic Pentecostals. Also Jesus was God the Son incarnate. He did His miracles through the Father. He humbled Himself as a man and could say "My Father is greater than I." Now read John 17:5 they SHARED glory before!
LOL! Ok, when Jesus said I am the alpha and the omega. The first and the last, he was referring to the fact that Jehovah resurrected Jesus. Jesus will be resurrecting everyone else, not Jehovah. Therefore Jesus is the first and the last. Wow what a distortion of the scriptures.
John 3:16 says" God so loved the world that he gave his own begotton son, that whoever has faith in him will not perish but have everlasting life" God can't give himself and Jesus is not God. Colossians 1:15-17 says Jesus was made in the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. He was made in God's image but he's not God. Jehovah is God. Read Psalms 83:18"That people may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the most high over all the earth" Read it in your Bible.
Great job blogrich55! Great points about the TWO "firsts & Lasts". Seems the JWs have two of everything: 2 GODs 2 LORDS 2 SAVIORS 2 KING OF KINGS 2 SHEPHERDS 2 ALPHA & OMEGAS, etc. I've asked the same questions of many JWs on YouTube, but they always explain it away...basically, explain the Bible away and what it says. They keep ignoring the TRUTH FOUND IN THE BIBLE. Titus 2:13 OUR GREAT GOD & SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST Isa. 43:11 I am the Lord and there is no other SAVIOR
If Jesus is God why he pray?Why he told the women in John ch#4 to worship father?Why in act 4 Jesus follower pray to god saying Jesus is holyservent?IfGod is only king why Soll and david was select byGod order to lead????to do what his people.If bible say God is only leader, David is a God.David is sepherds the Isreal.Apla and omega reference to evants not to nature of God.
@steveniruthaya I have a question. Maybe you can help me understand how it is that Alpha and Omega are references to events and not Jehovah God's nature ? Alpha and Omega mean First and Last. They are the first and last letters of the Hebrew. Jehovah God is eternal. This statement clearly indicates that there is no beginning or ending. This is referring to His eternal nature. Compare verse 1:8 (Jehovah God), with 22:13(clearly Jesus). They are equal in Their eternal nature.
@steveniruthaya If this were a reference to events and not Jehovah God's nature, then how can you explain Rev 1:8, where (in the New World translation, I might add), Jehovah God says that he is coming ? Do you believe the Jehovah God, The Almighty One will actually physically come.
seaneire says "Jesus is the Father manifested in created flesh hence called the Son."
According to the Bible Jesus was the Word made flesh NOT the Father made flesh. Review my video on John 1:1 where I go into the Greek and show that the word pros in John 1:1b which means toward or face to face with
indicates that the Word is a distinct person from ho theos.
Furthermore in 1:1c the absence of the definite article before theos indicates the Word had the same nature as ho theos in 1:1b.
I aggree with this video, however, it must be noted that these scriptures are translated very differently depending on which translation you are looking at. I have looked at many translations recently, regarding these specific passages, and a few others, and they do not all say the same thing. Some say that the angels were told to "worship" Jesus, others say "bow down to" Jesus, other say "do obesence to," yet others ommit this as well as other parts that make Jesus seem to be Jehovah.
jamesandchante 4 months ago
@jamesandchante "Some say that the angels were told to "worship" Jesus"
Which ALL amount to the same thing in the Greek. The Roman Catholic Church for years denied they worship Mary claiming to only do "obeisance" but it didn't wash. The Watch Tower tries to play word games all the time. They like to misquote Col 2:9 as the fullness of "godlike quality" instead of the godhood. But merely twisting the scriptures cannot erase the truth of Christ's full divinity. God bless you sister.
Blogrich55 4 months ago
@Blogrich55 You are so right. Thank you for helping to expose the lies of the Watchtower to people like me. :)
jamesandchante 4 months ago
@jamesandchante Thank you and God bless!
Blogrich55 4 months ago
Very good Video i like the Scriptures u use they make sense
chrisandstaci 9 months ago
@chrisandstaci Thanks and God bless you!
Blogrich55 9 months ago
lol, 40,000 denominations of christianity worldwide, each with its own interpretation of words written by carnal minds masquerading as eternal truths. There is no consensus, and indicates that christianity is experiencing its death throes through the fragmentation of the church.
ReligionlessFAITH 11 months ago
@ReligionlessFAITH "written by carnal minds"
So WHAT is the mind? Is it a non material part of man? Or is it mere electrical chemical action in the human brain?
Blogrich55 11 months ago
@Blogrich55 you know what the minds is, and you know the relationship between the brain and the mind. You also know that people are carnal creations and that our minds are carnal. Some people think they can define our Creator. People are arrogant and narcissistic in believing that a carnal mind with finite intellect, finite knowledge, and finite vocabularies can define infinite things. How much more arrogant are people who claim they understand matters eternal? - Eernally more!!!!!!
ReligionlessFAITH 11 months ago
@ReligionlessFAITH "How much more arrogant are people who claim they understand matters eternal?"
This is why presuppositional apologists such as Dr Gordon H Clark take the Bible as their axiom. They deduce everything from that. The Bible is God's revelation of truth to man. If God reveals something, it does NOT require an infinite mind on our part to understand.
The materialistic atheist denies ALL non-material reality. He thinks the mind is nothing more than electrical/chemical processes.
Blogrich55 11 months ago
@Blogrich55 Clark forgets that the Creator is well able to make anything He has to say known directly and instantaneously without the need for paper and ink nor clay tablets or stone etchings. A carnal mind taints any eternal truth the moment such truth is revealed to it and distorts it beyond recognition in trying to translate the eternal language with a carnal vocabulary.. When people put carnal words in the mouth of an eternal Creator, the stench of such narcissistic arrogance disgusts me.
ReligionlessFAITH 11 months ago
@ReligionlessFAITH "Clark forgets that the Creator is well able to make anything He has to say known directly and instantaneously without the need for paper and ink nor clay tablets or stone etchings..."
WOW what a hotbed of emotionalism, false doctrine, and arrogant self-centeredness. YOU disgust ME with your NeoQuaker nonsense. Let's all just sit in a circle singing Kumbaya and wait for the Holy Spirit to shake us and give us the word for today.
You ASSUME they put words in God's mouth!
Blogrich55 11 months ago
@Blogrich55 the arrogance lies with people who ASSUME their intellet superior to that of the Creator. Such people invent clever ways to disguise thier arrogance but the Truth can not be hidden. The truth is that an omnicient Creator knew before he created us how much righteousness He would give us and that we would do exactly what He created us to do. Arrogant people ASSUME carnal inventions can bribe favour from the Creator. Arrogant people resort to insults when their arrogance is exposed.
ReligionlessFAITH 11 months ago
@ReligionlessFAITH "the arrogance lies with people who ASSUME their intellet superior to that of the Creator."
And this applies to ME how?
Blogrich55 11 months ago
@Blogrich55 from your previous quote above "The Bible is God's revelation of truth to man. If God reveals something, it does NOT require an infinite mind on our part to understand." You ASSUME the bible is God's revelation. Your arrogance is revealed when you deny a perfect omnicient Creator by accepting religious inventions which deny the Creator's omniscience. Religion defines god. This turns the eternal to the finite. It's arrogant and it's wrong. It's a mockery of eternal TRUTH.
ReligionlessFAITH 11 months ago
If they were one please translate this for me then... Luke 22:42 "saying: "Father, if you wish, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place." ? Would one not consider the fact that Jesus was God's son, God-Almighty, would he not have bestowed some of his power to his son? Super human power compared to a mere mortal man.
TheJennywest 11 months ago
@TheJennywest "If they were one..." They are the same GOD but NOT the same Person. The doctrine of the Holy Trinity teaches that ONE GOD (Deut 6:4) exists as 3 distinct person. The Father is NOT the Son in human form. This nonsense is the heresy of modalism as taught by the Apostolic Pentecostals. Also Jesus was God the Son incarnate. He did His miracles through the Father. He humbled Himself as a man and could say "My Father is greater than I." Now read John 17:5 they SHARED glory before!
Blogrich55 11 months ago
@Blogrich55 ... LMAO... You keep telling yourself that. The trinity is a pagan teaching.
TheJennywest 11 months ago
LOL! Ok, when Jesus said I am the alpha and the omega. The first and the last, he was referring to the fact that Jehovah resurrected Jesus. Jesus will be resurrecting everyone else, not Jehovah. Therefore Jesus is the first and the last. Wow what a distortion of the scriptures.
TheJennywest 11 months ago
@TheJennywest "when Jesus said I am the alpha and the omega. The first and the last, he was referring to the fact that Jehovah resurrected Jesus..."
HOW does THAT even follow logically? Compare Rev 2:23 with Jeremiah 17:10
Blogrich55 11 months ago
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John 3:16 says" God so loved the world that he gave his own begotton son, that whoever has faith in him will not perish but have everlasting life" God can't give himself and Jesus is not God. Colossians 1:15-17 says Jesus was made in the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. He was made in God's image but he's not God. Jehovah is God. Read Psalms 83:18"That people may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the most high over all the earth" Read it in your Bible.
frankieandrewsophias 2 years ago
laffy4christ 2 years ago
Great comment brother. Praise the Lord God you are finally in He who is Truth. God bless you:D
Blogrich55 2 years ago
If Jesus is God why he pray?Why he told the women in John ch#4 to worship father?Why in act 4 Jesus follower pray to god saying Jesus is holyservent?IfGod is only king why Soll and david was select byGod order to lead????to do what his people.If bible say God is only leader, David is a God.David is sepherds the Isreal.Apla and omega reference to evants not to nature of God.
steveniruthaya 2 years ago
@steveniruthaya I have a question. Maybe you can help me understand how it is that Alpha and Omega are references to events and not Jehovah God's nature ? Alpha and Omega mean First and Last. They are the first and last letters of the Hebrew. Jehovah God is eternal. This statement clearly indicates that there is no beginning or ending. This is referring to His eternal nature. Compare verse 1:8 (Jehovah God), with 22:13(clearly Jesus). They are equal in Their eternal nature.
nucreationjc 1 year ago
@steveniruthaya If this were a reference to events and not Jehovah God's nature, then how can you explain Rev 1:8, where (in the New World translation, I might add), Jehovah God says that he is coming ? Do you believe the Jehovah God, The Almighty One will actually physically come.
nucreationjc 1 year ago
@nucreationjc Great point! God bless you!
Blogrich55 1 year ago
Hope it helps those beginning to learn about the Watchtower. Glad you like it Bill!
Blogrich55 3 years ago
Your gun is SMOKIN'!!! I love this series partner. You hit em' dead center! Yah bless you.
valambiguous 3 years ago
Glad you like it Val. Yah bless you too!
Blogrich55 3 years ago
Fantastick video. Keep doing great work for our great God and Savior, JESUS CHRIST.
sincitypreacher 3 years ago
Thanks for the encouraging words brother! The Spanish versions are being worked on now. God bless!
Blogrich55 3 years ago
You missing holy spirit.....Hahaha
steveniruthaya 2 years ago
seaneire says "Jesus is the Father manifested in created flesh hence called the Son."
According to the Bible Jesus was the Word made flesh NOT the Father made flesh. Review my video on John 1:1 where I go into the Greek and show that the word pros in John 1:1b which means toward or face to face with
indicates that the Word is a distinct person from ho theos.
Furthermore in 1:1c the absence of the definite article before theos indicates the Word had the same nature as ho theos in 1:1b.
Blogrich55 3 years ago
Jesus is the Father manifested in created flesh hence called the Son.
seaneire 3 years ago