1. I've dealt with enough holocaust promoters to know that most of them are just plain idiots.
2. The holocaust was never used as a justification for entering WWII. Duh, yeah! More importantly, it was never used as a justification for entering WWII AFTER the war! by either Churchill, De Gaulle or Eisenhower!
3. Why does the video poster continually misrepresent One Third's narrator as the TheAngryCanuck?
4. @ 4:35 One Third of a Holocaust does no such thing. Breathtaking ignorance.
holocaust denier's real motive is that they hate isreal because it proves bible prophecy true. that's why the popular deniers are always homosexual atheists, they arent really atheists though, that's just a front. They just hate god.
Leuchter did not need a permit or anything to do what he did because in the states that he worked in did not require one. His work was confirmed to be exact by Chemist Rudolf, who has since disproved the other Chemist's who try to defame both him and Fred! Fact is, the deaths happened after the war and was a result of allied bombings and such.
the real story is about 1 million people died in the camps due to starvation and disease no surprise there are hundreds of documents supporting this the majority died at the end of the war when supplies where short or cut off mostly in the western camps
@Antioxidantt The number of Jews in Poland on September 1, 1939 amounted to about 3,474,000 people. At its postwar peak, there were 180,000–240,000 Jews in Poland. Polish sources estimates that there are approximately 100,000 Jews in Poland today. So, during a 6 year period, more than 3 000 000 disapeared. Where did they go?
@caporalchef4 Hmm lets see here, most fled before the Germans got there, and on top of that, a lot of Jews were in the Soviet army, wonder why.... Ever wondered why so many people were raped and murdered by the soviets? It took years to to come up with the "Official" figures, and considering a lot died from Soviet hands. Let's not forget that the Soviets committed the acts at Katyn and then blamed it on Germany! How sweet of the oh so innocent commies huh?
@EdwardTheGray LMFAO!! Really?! That's your ''official'' explanation?! HAHA!! The title of this vid truely finds all its relevance, here!! Your hatred of Jews and obvious lack of objectivity deprives you of all credibility whatsoever! You people are not out there for the ''truth'', your sole purpose is to descredit all that is Jewish: Women, children, all of them. I'm not on the Commies side either. Stalin and Hitler, 2 pigs! You're a riot (and an idiot)! LOL!! So long, Dr Geobbels Jr!!
@caporalchef4 HAHAHAHA!!!! Let me enlighten you a little, 3 of my best friends are Jewish (They do not believe it either) My fav actors are the three stooges (Jews) My favorite band is Disturbed (David-lead singer-Jew), so no, I do believe you are wrong sir!
and b4 u kids start saying what about the witnesses..... the majority of witnesses say they never saw anything that indicated a holocaust there are 50,000 taped interviews watch them for your selves
the few that do have fantastical stories all lie when pressed for any information examples: jew soap, floating gas chambers above rail tracts, saying that people are flammable
Enjoy your fantasy and giving billions of dollars to Israel every year Germany does too in guilt money how sweet....
i have no idea who the youtube kid is but its not in the hands of the holocaust deniers to prove anything they are not making the claims
There is not one shred of evidence that the holocaust happened even holocaust expert Hilberg in his 1985 trial admits there are no documents then goes on to explain that it was possible with no plan, orders, or money because the nazi's have magic mind powers........ coming from the #1 holocaust scholar admits there is no evidence
no i am not a denier that these events happened, though i also do not believe in the 6 million number, though since many people were exterminated this point is really irrelevant. my overall concern is its over use, there have been many genocides over mans history, why this is one is so important seems to stem down to the fact that jews were killed.
u always hear hitlar was the worst. really? c'mon he doesn't compare to even stalin. id rather be gased then starve to death. MAO? 77 compared to 6?
@Mi im not sorry to say, but your "historically proven" ( great term btw ) numbers keep dropping every time a independent analyst looks at the numbers and data. no where near the number of people died at Auschwitz as first thought at first we didn't do the math, we just took prisoners estimates. and i am not just pulling this out my ass if you had looked into you would have known that NO 6 million is not a %100 undeniably proven.
@Miracle AND AT WHAT FUCKING NUMBER DO U CONSIDER A GENOCIDE A GENOCIDE?
if you don't know that mao is responsible for millions and millions of his own countrymen deaths, then you are crazier then the people who think the holocaust never happened. and y do we have to call it a holocaust? every other time peoples have been mass murdered its called mass murder or genocide. but if its the jews its a holocaust?
millions have perished in iraq and afgan. no holocaust there? bias?
@peterbaelish3: "if you don't know that mao is responsible for millions and millions of his own countrymen deaths,"
I basically implied that Mao's policies were incompetent and rather negligent, as what happened in the Ukraine 30 years earlier, so yes, his regime was responsible for that.
@MiracleMile90 i disagree i think they were more negligent then just being incompetent. but thats another topic.
like i said i dont deny the holocaust, but it seems people and media place in my opinion to much importance on this event. yes historically it is significant, yes it is somewhat of a unique case. but it is not the only time one peoples have tried to eliminate another. the native american holocaust is never talked about, like it didn't happen. but everyone knows hitler?
@peterbaelish3: Okay, you do have a valid point here: The Native American tragedy also deserves far more research & discussion that what it's gotten currently.
You claim the Holocaust wasn't used to justify the U.S. entering the war? There are hundreds of reports filed in the Library of Congress by Jews/expartisans/Communists/ Etc... on the supposed abuses of the Jews by the Germans in camps. Pearl Harbor was just the icing on the cake but the US was gearing up for war with Germany well before Dec 1941. These reports include the soap myth, lamp shades,pneumatic hammer killings,atom bombs and countless other disproved myths of this hoax. Read up sonny!!
the 1969 book "Myth of the Six Million" by Harvard scholar David Hoggan exposed why the alien dominators employed the "Holocaust" propaganda against the defeated Germans. The main purpose was to camouflage the many mass murders of civilians by the Allies such as Holodomor, Katyn forest, Bromberg, Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne, Royan, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The "Holocaust" propaganda lies were subsequently used to steal Palestine and provide justification for the occupation of Germany.
@ElevenHolesInOne: I'm sorry, but the Ukraine famine was no real genocide, and the Dresden death toll may have been greatly overestimated. And what, pray tell, happened to Royan?
the jews always slander their enemies with hateful lies such as "Holocaust" and "Exodus" to brainwash the next generation of jews into the belief that the other races need to be enslaved to ensure jewish survival. The Civil War-era essay "The Bible View of Slavery" by Rabbi Raphall revealed why the jews always aim to enslave the other races. All of the make-believe jewish patriarchs were written down as slave-owners so that future jews could always claim the religious right to own slaves.
@ElevenHolesInOne: Well, there were some Southern Jews who did try to justify slavery......although many northern ones didn't. It was more of a regional thing than anything else.
This guy's a tool. The holocaust wasn't used to push for war with Germany but it sure as hell was used to justify Israel's wars & genocide against the Palestinians. And everything else they do in the Middle East and the US and Europe and all over the world.
2. You clearly show that you had not watched one third of the holocaust. If you had watched even the first five minutes you would have got the meaning title right
3. Also you claim the Canuck made the movie he took a clip from, thats very misleading
To be honest I'm suprised your vid has any positive votes
I don't know who made that vid but it wasn't the angry Canuck. One third of the holocaust was the movie that clip came from.
Also it wasnt caled that because only 2 mill died, it was because the movie only covered one third of the deaths because it only aimed to debunk three camps. You obviously didn't watch the movie your criticising lol.
Bull shit the word Holocaust isn't a Hebrew word it's not in the Torah. The Zionist elites made up that word along with their identity. The Bible says when the real Israelites are back in their homeland the entire world will be at peace. The people occupying Israel today are not the Biblical Israelites they are converts.
The ignorance of people in this world never ceases to amaze me. "They're making a 9/11 museum thats gonna tell you that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters did it. Doesn't make it so", "The Jews have owned the US government since the 1890s", "Holocaust promoters have no evidence to back up their wild gas chamber/human soap and lampshade claims", and my favorite,"Physical evidence? where are all the bodies?What documents?" (Thank you "kissfan7" for the last one it was hilarious).People are so dumb!
@mindright13 I strongly suggest you do a little research into your own stupidity before you venture down this path. ;) You have zero comprehension of what really happened; let alone the reality you live in.
history should always be treated like a criminal court case, mere words should not prove anything as they wouldn't in a murder trial it should be for starting points, hear both sides find credible evidence such as physical and scientific, once you've received all that you can get come to your most logical conclusion, i do this for every historical, economic, political and scientific debate and this is no exception. and generally those who call people idiots with no argument are themselves so.
@ultradumbass and to prove my point even more this video person here is an ultradumbass. canada didn't enter the war because "we're their bitch." we did it by choice, great britain declared war on september 3 and we didn't declare it until september 10, furthermore we weren't originally planning on fighting ww2 on the same scale as ww1, lyon mackenzie king originally wanted canada to fight a limited economic supply war to britain and only called for mass armies after the loss of dunkirk.
@DrPwN131 A museum proves that. Sorry but Its gonna take more than that. The history we are taught is full of lies. I want to see evidence, not some stupid museum. They're making a 9/11 museum thats gonna tell you that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters did it. Doesnt make it so.
@DrPwN131 I have a few ideas but they are just my ideas. When we get an actual investigation we will find out. What I will say is that it wasn't 19 cave dwellers with box cutters.
@zappa1777 Oh, so you're one of those crackpot conspiracy theorists that believes that the moon landing was staged. Why dont you watch that bullshit mockumentary called Loose Change and live in your fantasy world.
@DrPwN131 Nice. When you dont have anything intelligent to offer you resort to ridicule and insults. 2 planes cant make 3 buildings collapse and 757s dont vanish into thin air when crashing into buildings. Whos living in a fantasy world?
@zappa1777 2 planes can easily take down 3 buildings; and the 757s didn't "vanish". Now, one thing that cannot happen; is planting explosives in a building full of people, without anyone having noticed, let alone not making a sound when detonating. Do some research if you wish not to be a brain dead fool. It is you that is living in a fantasy.
@zappa1777 Bush could somehow organize hundreds of thousands if not millions, of people to orchestrate an attack on his own soil; while having explosives planted in a building with thousands of people inside, and no witnesses....and not one person would come forward....yet he could barely win an election without people in Florida having to be recounted and alleged to be fraudulent? You are hilarious!
@zappa1777 Tell you what; I'll do you one better and list the names of Afghanis whom I have listened to tell the stories of not only the hijackers, but also the men who planned the attack, and bin Laden himself, all of whom were known by them. Neamatollah Nojumi was a mujahideen warrior who fought alongside Ahmed Massoud and Mohammed Omar...I'm sure you know who they are hey? ;) Do you know anyone from Afghanistan with first hand experience with these organizations too? ;)
@zappa1777 Kinda hard to charge someone who is dead genius. How about what happened to Ahmed Massoud. What is your opinion on that? Should the US have been skeptical of Gilbaddin Hekmatyar during their involvement with the mujahideen? Why were Afghanis fond of Omar? All of this plays major factors into what happened on 9/11. As an "educated" person who has done his research, surely you should know the answers to this.
@zappa1777 Several people have been. The reason the hijackers are not charged is because they are dead idiot. Unlike you, I do not avoid answering real relevant points. ;) Do take the time to speak to these people. How many Afghanis have you spoken to about what they witnessed first hand? How many Afghani's stories have you heard?
@zappa1777 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid Bin ‘Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, and Mustafa al Hawsawi are among those being charged for their orchestration of the 9/11 attacks. The hijackers themselves have not been charged beacause they are dead moron. What would be the point in charging someone who is dead? Who is Mohammed Omar?
@zappa1777 bin Laden was charged. The same as Hekmatyar, Omar and everyone else as an international terrorist recognized by the United Nations. I would say sending in the Joint Special Operations Command with Special Forces from all of the most powerful western nations after him and killing him would be testimony of this now wouldn't you?
@xFogxofxWarx Was he? Funny that the FBI say they had no evidence linking him to 9/11 and he wasnt wanted for 9/11 on his FBI page. Go take a look. His page is still up.
@zappa1777 Could have something to do with the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigations is a national agency and does not deal with international cases; that is the CIA's job. THE FBI have only listed the connections in which he is known for certain to be involved in. It mentions other suspected attacks on the US. Again, the FBI does not handle international cases; the CIA does.
@zappa1777 FYI, the FBI, like the CIA and all other government agencies does have information which is not given to the public. Just because you see it on their website does not mean they do not have further intel either.
@zappa1777 According to Dale L Watson, the Executive Assistance Director of the Counter Terrorism/Counterintelligence Division of the FBI in his February 6, 2002 report "FBI Testimony about 9/11 terrorists' motives", the FBI has "clear and irrefutable" evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11. The White House also has a report confirming this as well. Thanks to the freedom of information act; all of this information is readily available for you to see.
@zappa1777 Now that I have answered your questions, how about you answer mine? Was the US decision to fund the mujahideen through the Pakistani ISI the appropriate decision, or should they have considered other means of aiding them, based on the concept that Pakistan's involvement would be in direct relation to their own interests; including on Gulbaddin Hekmatyar. Having done the funding through the ISI, should the US have taken responsibility for Hekmatyar and done something about him earlier?
@xFogxofxWarx The US shouldnt fund any one. They have enough issues at home ant their meddling in other peoples business can do no good. How would they like it if the tables were turned.
@zappa1777 Such a statement only shows that you have not researched into these people. Do take the time to educate yourself through the study of those who witnessed it first hand; and then make a valid opinion. The tables have been turned, and the US accepted the help warmly.
@zappa1777 How can you explain the Taliban assassination of Ahmed Massoud, the most favoured Afghan leader; and founder of the Northern Alliance; rival to the Taliban, who held control of Kabul, the capital; at the request of al Qaeda, if it was not them that attacked the WTC? Seeing as Massoud was the one man who was capable of defeating the Taliban/al Qaeda should the US invade, it plays a major important role that he was assassinated two days before the attack.
@zappa1777 and lastly, I asked you how many Afghanis you have spoken with, or at least heard the stories of life under Taliban rule and heard first hand of their experiences with bin Laden/al Qaeda or the men involved in the attacks?
@zappa1777, "Funny that the FBI say they had no evidence linking him to 9/11 and he wasnt wanted for 9/11 on his FBI page", the FBI never claimed they didn't have evidence which linked him to 9/11, they just didn't mention it soley on his Most Wanted Page. FBI has admited multiple times in the report that they link him to 9/11. And by the way, why would it matter to them if they didn't posted something like that on a internet webpage?
@zappa1777 Do explain the US involvement with Gulbaddin Hekmatyar, and how that played a major role in shaping Afghanistan post Soviet invasion. How did this aid in the formation of the Taliban, and when and where did al Qaeda form? What does al Qaeda mean and what was its purpose in the 1980s? What was the predecessor of al Qaeda and who was the leader of it prior to bin Laden? How did the assassination on Ahmed Massoud factor into 9/11?
@zappa1777 as an enlightened and well researched individual, you should be able to explain these details as they pertain to the events in question. Surely you wouldn't just look up the aftermath and one side of how it happened now would you? :D
@zappa1777 Cave dwellers? HA HA HA. Al Qaeda was trained in Afghanistan under Taliban rule. A.) They didn't dwell in caves, they lived in organized infrastructure on bases funded by Taliban, al Qaeda and Pakistani contributions; and they were far from as primitive as you like to think. Prior to 9/11, the Taliban had an Air Force with hundreds of helicopters and MiG 21 fighters....just a little FYI. ;) You really think it would be hard for them to train these guys?
holocaust deniers are such idiots. it's not worth debating them, you'll never change their mind, all the evidence out there they dont wana beleive it? fuck em..move on, they wont change the truth of history, they can yap on youtube thats pretty much all they can do...dont think they can kill 6 million at that time? In Rwanda they killed 800,000 in a disorganized fashion in 100 days, i dont think it would have taken too long fir the Nazis to kill over 6 million...
@TheVenturino123 Holohoax promoters are the ones who never change their minds. Still stuck on the outlandish (and discredited) 6 million figure. I have already changed mine already from a believer to a skeptic. Today in a world of the internet & instant worldwide communication 50% of Americans still believe they found WMD in Iraq! Now imagine the ignorance of people back in the 1940's when this story came out. Supported by government propaganda and the corporate media. It was all lies lies lies.
@TheVenturino123: "In Rwanda they killed 800,000 in a disorganized fashion in 100 days, i dont think it would have taken too long fir the Nazis to kill over 6 million.."
So true. Funny how these people will take propaganda pieces like the supposed 'genocide' in the Ukraine or the claim that 66 million people supposedly died in the Gulags(it was more like 20 mil.) as total facts, yet the most documented genocide in the world is denied by them........
@jfb17042 oh jeez another one of those types.."france and britian declared war on them!"...ok well hitler invaded/conquered czech, austria and poland before they decleared war, so who is really starting something? have you even read hitler's book? he made it clear he would have started war, but he wanted england on his side, but to take france and eastern europe and more...say what you want but what i said is simple fact lol
@TheVenturino123: Yep. Hitler started the war by invading the Czechoslovak Republic and yet Chamberlain actually went out of his way to try to NOT declare war on the Germans. At least Churchill stepped in and did the right thing.
Let's see... how many « holocausts » in the newspapers since the XIXth century? 6 million plus 6 million plus 6 million... How did the Jews manage to be still here?
@AbsentAnyProof And the delusional get thrown into insane asylums while the racist get deservingly ostracized from the rest of society. Which option are you going for?
@AbsentAnyProof Your "argument" is just pure paranoia without any basis in reality. In the US one can freely investigate the Holocaust and even promote (as disgusting as it is) Holocaust Denial, so your claim is absurd on its face. Beyond that such empty-headed anti-semitism just makes you look like a fanatic unable/unwilling to even consider the truth -- e.g. you falally hurt your own argument!
THE AVERAGE ESTIMATE OF TOTAL DEATHS IN WW2, 75MILLION. so why is it that 6million (supposed) jews deaths seem to be the only thing people remember about WW2? the jews have hi jacked the victim badge. and this guy has not done his research. period
@debunkNEGATOR The others who died ARE remembered -- as any visit to any of the thousands of memorials to them or reading any of the thousands of books about them, etc. show. I just watched a Russian movie about the defense of Brest Fortress, for example -- no mention of the Holocaust there, just the bravery of its doomed defenders.
In fact, this notion of Jews somehow hogging all the victimhood is itself a strawman as the basic claim behind it is a fraud -- and clearly anti-semitic.
TALMUD SANHEDRIN 55B AND 54B. jews are allowed to have sex with 3yr and 1 day old girls, and sex with under 9yr boys, the talmud says it is alright, also a jew is allowed to kill, steal from, any gentile (non jew), and its not punishable it is just alright, because the non jew, is an animal in human form,jew is allowed to do what he wishes upon non-jew just the thing that any jew would not want u to know,DONT BELIEVE ME, LOOK IT UP.
So the camps that was found, with suitcases, gold teeth, watches,clothes, shoes, skins, bodies and so on is not true? I have searched the internet about all the concentrationcamps and victims, and I can not believe that all the 1000-and something pages I have found are false...
@nilkri80 hey what are saying? experts who looked into it, say it would take 32yrs to gas 6million people, did u get that? 32 yrs. now work out how many yrs was it from the arrest of jews to the end of war. and 32 yrs , was if the gas chambers were operating 24yrs a day,at max. capacity. work it out, most say the numbers would be like 200,to 300 thousand, NOT 6 MILLION.
@debunkNEGATOR This is just completely wrong. The gas chambers could process hundreds to a thousand at a time while burning the bodies was easier than you think as the bodies themselves provided most of the "fuel". This whole idea is based on taking flawed and conveniently large time estimates and ignoring all the masses of evidence to the contrary. It also ignores how the Nazis themselves listed the dead in totals of 100s of thousands to millions (depending on the document and time period).
@debunkNEGATOR The size of the gas chambers depends greatly on the place and time you select. The largest could do in 2000 at a time, but there were chambers much smaller at other times and places. OTOH, the chambers (and furnaces) at Auschwitz could handle as many as 20,000 a day. So, the answer to your question depends on the place and time.
As for an "independent source" there are PLENTY -- and please don't try to argue that any source that isn't Holo Denial is by definition "bad."
@Ranillon also either way. there was 75-85million killed in WW2, which makes the 6million jews less than 10%, so 90% of killed were christians/muslims/buddahist etc. how did the jews seem to have hi jacked the "victim" badge ? was it a ploy to get the land in palestine.? through the balfour treaty?
@debunkNEGATOR They HAVEN'T "stolen" the "victim badge" -- ALL the dead of WW2 are mourned and remembered (I just visited the WW2 memorial in DC recently, for example). Your argument is inherently fallicious!
@Ranillon well u gogle victims of WW2, its all about jews, jews jews, they get compensation from WW2, at the same time kill palestinians, bunch of hypocrites, but then again they were always that way, thats why GOD cursed them, thats why Moses throw the 10 commandments at them, he rescued them from bondage, the sea opend for them ,and they still worshippd bamphoet, yes evil,so there u go,
@debunkNEGATOR All this sort of response does it reveal you to be a classic anti-semite who will interpret anything that "Jews" (your very definition of the term is warped) do as "evil" regardless of the facts. You just lost any credibility you might have had. Only other anti-semites will give you the time the day. The rest of us (99.9% of the population) will just see you as the morally bankrupt racist your are.
@Ranillon what part of what i said was incorrect.? all i said is there , right in the holy books, and being a jew does NOT MAKE U A SEMITE, u are most probably a european jew. which is not a semite, so stop pretending to be a semite, semites are only about 10% of the world jews.
1) EVERY part was incorrect as it is based on ignorant and hateful racist attitudes
2) "Anti-semite" has a clear and definite definition in the English language. Please look it up.
3) I haven't a drop of Jewish blood in me going back at least ten generations. I say what I say because it is the TRUTH, not because it'll gain me any possible personal benefit. I also don't happen to agree with many Israeli policies, but that doesn't change the reality of the Holocaust!
........maybe i havent studied the subject enough, but i have only stumbled upon one document that states that Hitler ordered the killing of Jews in ww2.......And experts from all over clames that that this document is fake ???? I too agree that we should doubt what is written in the history books about this matter....If we cant question it, then it is probably a lie.......I´m from Denmark, a neighbor to Germany, and ww2 has been a big part of what i have been taught in school.... What a waste .
@HVEMERHESTEN There are a number of direct reports from people who talked with Hitler about it. More importantly, the idea that somehow Hitler was out of the loop is completely daft. He was like the spider in the middle of the web who everyone else ultimately reported to. No one or group would have dared carry out a gigantic operation like the Holocaust without his CONSTANT and ROUTINE approval -- at best attempting so meant a ruined career, at worst being shot!
What a bunch of BS, I watched the documentary in question and he doesn't say that the holocaust was the cause for the US or anyone else to enter WW2. He says that the Holocaust is cited as part of the horrors of WW2 by historians, just like babies in incubators (lie), WMDs(lies), golf of Tonkin (lie). Way to deform things. BTW it wasn't spam bots that thumbed this down, it was people like me that can see through your BS...
If anyone likes the people of the world, is anti-war, pacifist. and do NOT WANT to have these cruel acts, then how the fuck can people get MAD because of people saying less people died? its like people want them to die. Also, please:)look into Holocaust - Zionism - Israel. Look at the world today.
@Etrajbe The reason is that "The Holocaust" is more than just history. It is now constantly invoked as a reason to kill, and invade other countries. Saddam Hussein had to be stopped to prevent another holocaust. Now we are told we must attack Iran to prevent a holocaust. The illegitimate apartheid regime called Israel was created because of this weird wacky horror story about human soap, lampshades made from skin and 6 million killed in gas chambers. The Holocaust is all about protecting Israel.
@jfb17042 You are offering us an old, tired Holocaust Denier strawman. One, HD is only illegal in a few countries and only when offered as a full "historical" theory from scratch -- e.g. a conclusion rather than real history/science which is a long trail of evidence leading to a conclusion. Two, If you want to research and talk about the Holocaust go right ahead. What you can't do in a few countries is offer preset ideological/racist conclusions masquerading as real historical research.
@Ranillon The buzzword "holocaust denier" is the real straw man which says that people who don't believe the entire fantastic story deny the entire event, which they do not. I think you know this though, so your use of the term holocaust denier reveals some dishonesty in your argument. A clever tactic of the holocaust promoters has been to shift the burden of proof to the questioners claiming the dogma know today as "The Holocaust" has been proven (which it has not).
@jfb17042 Are you kidding? The reality of the Holocaust has been proven a thousand times over with mountains of records, first hand witnesses, remaining sites, and so forth. At this point the reality of the Holocaust HAS BEEN PROVEN!!! That means that if you want to argue that those legions of historians, photos, videos, witnesses, etc somehow got it wrong it is up to YOU to prove it -- as is always the requirement of anyone trying to overturn established wisdom. So, drop the faux outrage.
@Ranillon Ok I'll say it again. Nobody denies the holocaust, just that parts of the story have been exaggerated. I cant blame the Jews, after all they were unfairly persecuted and had the perfect opportunity to make up a real whopper. The Axis was defeated and all their leaders dead. Allies nations were in full control of all news and information. It was the Soviets who first strutted into Nuremberg in 1946 and proclaimed millions killed by the Nazi's just like they lied about the Katyn Forest.
@jfb17042 Yes, reducing the Holocaust down to an "exaggeration" IS denying it -- you're just trying to use a trick of the language to make it sound like you aren't. After all, I am sure you aren't suggesting it was "exaggerated" by a few percentage points, but more like 80-90% -- which in practice is to reduce it down to nothing important. The facts quite obviously don't support that and there is no valid logical or historical reason to make such a sick claim, just ideological/racist reasons.
@Ranillon So over 200,000 dead in a Typhus epidemic from being forced into crowded prison camps is unimportant ? I'm not racist, I'm a realist and a skeptic. Even today half of American believe they found WMD in Iraq, 90% believe an invisible man in the sky created the universe in 7 days. Just because many people believe in something doesn't make it true. There is compelling evidence that the gas chamber story is a lie, but it is suppressed by the establishment as sacrilegious pseudoscience.
@jfb17042 The only so-called "compelling" evidence that the gas chambers aren't real come from Neo-Nazi/anti-semite inventions. Any respected historical and scientific group knows they were real because all the evidence shows it -- mountains of German records, the physical evidence, the masses of eye witness accounts. What, are all those thousands and thousands involved lying? A person who doesn't believe in the full Holocaust isn't interested in truth, just his self-serving ideology/racism.
@Ranillon Ask any lawyer, eyewitness testimony can be unreliable. People lie or image things that never happened, are told things by others who have claimed to have seen something. When rumors and lies are backed up by official government policy they take on the semblance of historical reality. As for German records I'm actually surprised there aren't more out there, with the Allies in possession of all Nazi stationery, official stamps and seals they could have fabricated all sorts of evidence.
@jfb17042 You give the typical conspiracy nut reply - lots of evidence against you? Dismiss it all with a wave of the hand as being lies of the "great (jewish) conspiracy". How convenient! As for eye-witnesses, they might get small details wrong, but there is no way they could misremember entire YEARS of their life! Besides, if the evidence of thousands of historians/scientists can't be trusted then how can a few pitiful neo-nazi/anti-semitc sources with clear ideological agendas be trusted?
Pressac was a Zionist mole. He had mountains of something, but it wasn't evidence (it was B.S.) As far as lampshades and soap you had better check with Irene Weisberg Zisblatt, she saw them with her own eyes. LoL! And what about sawing babies in half, shrunken heads and injecting blue dye into eyes and lets not forget evil experiments on twins. Kinda hard to believe right ? Let's just say tens of thousands of Jews died in a Typhus epidemic in the camps. Isn't that bad enough? Why make up lies ?
@jfb17042 It's not illegal to question the Holocaust in the US, so that refutes your argument. The only legitimate basis to question the Holocaust is based on evidence. That is, however, apparently too complicated for you to handle. The deniers have no evidence to back up their BS claims. Just lying punks.
@ExistentialistPeace Holocaust promoters have no evidence to back up their wild gas chamber / human soap and lampshade claims. Just a load of BS from a bunch of lying old Jews.
@jfb17042 Pressac, for example, has a mountain of evidence debunking all of the deniers' claims regarding the gas chambers. As far as the lampshades and soap comments, those were made by the soviets. Th Jews aren't responsible for their shit, as Israel made the USSR look like shit during the cold war. The fact is all denial literature is based on either lies or pure fantasy. That's why it is recognized in the science community as a pseudo-science and a belief for dummies. Like you.
@jfb17042 False. Hitler and his party wanted the Jews exterminated just like you do. Do you actually expect anyone to believe that 6 million Jews simply dissapeared from countries that just happened to be controlled by a nation run by an Anti-semetic party?
@KaiserReich98 I wouldn't say they disappeared, many just changed their names and assimilated. Holocaust promoters point to official censuses do show the reduction in numbers Jews. Now what Jew in his right mind would admit to any government agency to being a Jew after what had just happened?
@jfb17042 your such a prick. it happened. what is wrong with you? i wish i could stab you in the face right now. why are you so stupid? go to school! oh wait! your probably too poor to afford school. thats why your so stupid. your so morally retarded. your hav NO proof at all to support your answer. so your wrong. so stop talking. douchebag...
@jfb17042 Actually, substantial evidence exists to back up the gas chambers/human soap and lampshade claims. You can visit concentration camps in Germany that still contain these particular objects. There is however, zero credibility to any of the claims that it didn't happen.
Boy, do I hate idiots who try to have us believe the Holocaust is a lie! But it doesn't work because you know they're people who have grudges against Jews for some reason or other. And the tactics they use are so desperate, pathetic and tiresome that they're almost laughable.
Dubious reasoning and fallacious, Denying the Holocaust is illigal in some countries as general anti-Nazi leglislation. Ironically stupid Holocaust denier/dimminish bullshit actually wastes time and resoarces which could be invested in actual useful historical research on the subject. Logically by your arguement if something is illigal does that give it legitimacy?
Dubious reasoning and fallacious, Denying the Holocaust is illigal in some countries as general anti-Nazi leglislation. Ironically stupid Holocaust denier/dimminish bullshit actually wastes time and resoarces which could be invested in actual useful historical research on the subject. Logically by your arguement if something is illigal does that give it legitimacy?
@superfawful64 a 9/11 truther is someone who ignores facts and anything else that debunks there little fantasy on how 9/11 was an inside job. and they love to take quotes out of content to boost there beliefs, and they will call you an idiot or a shill if you dare disagree with them.
Holocaust is jewish rats LIE. Jews are murderers,liars syphilis on planet Earth subhuman satanic filth . The real holocaust was 147 millions Russian christians,men,women and children's shot to the heads by jew swine communist. Your time is up you jewish RATS no more you BS. The real holocaust was written for you jew swine in our book of life"OBADIAH"you jew swines your time is UP !!!
@jfb17042 "The very fact that the holocaust is illegal to question is reason alone to doubt it."
I hear this argument all the time and it still makes no sense.
The United States has defamation laws, though they are less strict than most. For example, it would be illegal for me to call a school teacher a pedophile without evidence, because it would make it harder for him/her to get a job. Now, just because it's illegal to say "Jane Smith sexually abuses kids", does that make it true?
@kissfan7 I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. I am not accusing the holocaust revisionists of defamation, the defamers are the holocaust promoters. They defame and blackmail the German people.
@jfb17042 You said, "The very fact that the holocaust is illegal to question is reason alone to doubt it." I was pointing out that just because saying X is illegal does not mean X is true. I used defamation as an example.
And no, people who know the Holocaust happened are not defamers. First, it did happen as every sane historian of the period knows. Second, even if it didn't, saying something bad about a government, in this case Nazi Germany, is not defamation under the First Amendment.
@kissfan7 Everyone knows it happened, the camps still exist to this day. What is in question is the gas chamber legend and 6 million dead. Whats wrong with saying Jews were mistreated and expelled from their homes, and many thousands died in the camps from a Typhus epidemic, isn't that bad enough? The exaggerated figures in the millions were a case of the victorious powers piling it on after they won the war.
@jfb17042 The gas chambers aren't in dispute. We know because of documents, physical evidence, intel, and the testimony of former guards and sonderkommandos. Six million is an estimate, but all sane historians put the number at far above five million.
"Whats [sic] wrong with saying Jews were mistreated and expelled[?]"
Because it's neglects to mention the einsatzgruppen massacres, gassings, slave labor, and the deadly conditions in the camps and ghettos they were forced into.
@jfb17042 "many thousands died in the camps from a Typhus epidemic"
But why did they die? If I kidnap a bunch of people; put them in horrible, crowded conditions; experiment on them; and force them to perform slave labor and then they die as a result, wouldn't I be charged with murder?
"The exaggerated figures in the millions were a case of the victorious powers piling it on after they won the war."
First, can you prove this? Second, why did they do it? What other genocides have been faked?
@kissfan7 Of course they were badly treated, but so were many ethnic German civilians during and after the war by the Allies What is the old saying ? The first casualty of war is the truth. Throughout human history the winners write the history books. The winner is always portrayed as righteous, the loser always despicable and evil.
I can't prove the gas chamber stories are fake, You can't prove they are not fake.
You should watch the video by David Cole about Auschwitz, It's on YouTube.
@kissfan7 Physical evidence ? where are all the bodies ? Documents ? not sure what document\s exist that prove millions gassed. BTW I have in my possession an original copy of Lincoln's Gettysburg address. Intel ? Did someone enter a gas chamber and come out alive to tell what happened ? Former guards ? confessions through torture (But we never tortured, we are the good guys right?) Sondercommandos ? Opportunistic Jews who saw their chance to get back at their German captors by making up lies.
@jfb17042 Cont. the Jews, but people who were against Hitler, POWs, and even pure Germans who were deformed. Also, there is way more evidence to back up that it is true, then if it never happened. Would you like it if your family died from someone murdering them, and there was a group of people who thought it was a fake, and thought the murderer should be let go because you were faking/lying about the whole thing? That would be kinda fucked up, right?
1. I've dealt with enough holocaust promoters to know that most of them are just plain idiots.
2. The holocaust was never used as a justification for entering WWII. Duh, yeah! More importantly, it was never used as a justification for entering WWII AFTER the war! by either Churchill, De Gaulle or Eisenhower!
3. Why does the video poster continually misrepresent One Third's narrator as the TheAngryCanuck?
4. @ 4:35 One Third of a Holocaust does no such thing. Breathtaking ignorance.
thespacialone 9 hours ago
holocaust denier's real motive is that they hate isreal because it proves bible prophecy true. that's why the popular deniers are always homosexual atheists, they arent really atheists though, that's just a front. They just hate god.
SupremeAmerican 2 days ago
denying halocaust is a freedom of speech, or if you repeat it then you are a jewish supremeist.
idrismetalcore 3 days ago
Leuchter did not need a permit or anything to do what he did because in the states that he worked in did not require one. His work was confirmed to be exact by Chemist Rudolf, who has since disproved the other Chemist's who try to defame both him and Fred! Fact is, the deaths happened after the war and was a result of allied bombings and such.
EdwardTheGray 5 days ago
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It's fun reading all these arguments underneath composed by people who have no real life!!!
MrFfuckUp 1 week ago
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veritasrex66 1 week ago
the real story is about 1 million people died in the camps due to starvation and disease no surprise there are hundreds of documents supporting this the majority died at the end of the war when supplies where short or cut off mostly in the western camps
Antioxidantt 1 week ago
@Antioxidantt The number of Jews in Poland on September 1, 1939 amounted to about 3,474,000 people. At its postwar peak, there were 180,000–240,000 Jews in Poland. Polish sources estimates that there are approximately 100,000 Jews in Poland today. So, during a 6 year period, more than 3 000 000 disapeared. Where did they go?
caporalchef4 1 week ago
@caporalchef4 Hmm lets see here, most fled before the Germans got there, and on top of that, a lot of Jews were in the Soviet army, wonder why.... Ever wondered why so many people were raped and murdered by the soviets? It took years to to come up with the "Official" figures, and considering a lot died from Soviet hands. Let's not forget that the Soviets committed the acts at Katyn and then blamed it on Germany! How sweet of the oh so innocent commies huh?
EdwardTheGray 5 days ago
@EdwardTheGray LMFAO!! Really?! That's your ''official'' explanation?! HAHA!! The title of this vid truely finds all its relevance, here!! Your hatred of Jews and obvious lack of objectivity deprives you of all credibility whatsoever! You people are not out there for the ''truth'', your sole purpose is to descredit all that is Jewish: Women, children, all of them. I'm not on the Commies side either. Stalin and Hitler, 2 pigs! You're a riot (and an idiot)! LOL!! So long, Dr Geobbels Jr!!
caporalchef4 5 days ago
@caporalchef4 HAHAHAHA!!!! Let me enlighten you a little, 3 of my best friends are Jewish (They do not believe it either) My fav actors are the three stooges (Jews) My favorite band is Disturbed (David-lead singer-Jew), so no, I do believe you are wrong sir!
EdwardTheGray 5 days ago
and b4 u kids start saying what about the witnesses..... the majority of witnesses say they never saw anything that indicated a holocaust there are 50,000 taped interviews watch them for your selves
the few that do have fantastical stories all lie when pressed for any information examples: jew soap, floating gas chambers above rail tracts, saying that people are flammable
Enjoy your fantasy and giving billions of dollars to Israel every year Germany does too in guilt money how sweet....
Antioxidantt 1 week ago
i have no idea who the youtube kid is but its not in the hands of the holocaust deniers to prove anything they are not making the claims
There is not one shred of evidence that the holocaust happened even holocaust expert Hilberg in his 1985 trial admits there are no documents then goes on to explain that it was possible with no plan, orders, or money because the nazi's have magic mind powers........ coming from the #1 holocaust scholar admits there is no evidence
Do u believe in big foot too?
Antioxidantt 1 week ago
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Holocaust of Palestinians is real. Anyone who denies it is an idiot.
Metsada007 1 week ago
Keep swearing shit for brains.
belinda2118 2 weeks ago
Hitler was a piece of shit.Truth.
foxterrier65 3 weeks ago
no i am not a denier that these events happened, though i also do not believe in the 6 million number, though since many people were exterminated this point is really irrelevant. my overall concern is its over use, there have been many genocides over mans history, why this is one is so important seems to stem down to the fact that jews were killed.
u always hear hitlar was the worst. really? c'mon he doesn't compare to even stalin. id rather be gased then starve to death. MAO? 77 compared to 6?
peterbaelish3 3 weeks ago
@peterbaelish3: Mao's policies were awfully unworkable, yes, but there was no genocide.
And I'm sorry to say, but the 6 million number has pretty much been proven as historical.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
@Mi im not sorry to say, but your "historically proven" ( great term btw ) numbers keep dropping every time a independent analyst looks at the numbers and data. no where near the number of people died at Auschwitz as first thought at first we didn't do the math, we just took prisoners estimates. and i am not just pulling this out my ass if you had looked into you would have known that NO 6 million is not a %100 undeniably proven.
peterbaelish3 3 weeks ago
@peterbaelish3: Estimates do vary somewhat slightly, from 5.3-6.2 million or thereabouts. But that gives no credence to Holocaust deniers.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
@Miracle AND AT WHAT FUCKING NUMBER DO U CONSIDER A GENOCIDE A GENOCIDE?
if you don't know that mao is responsible for millions and millions of his own countrymen deaths, then you are crazier then the people who think the holocaust never happened. and y do we have to call it a holocaust? every other time peoples have been mass murdered its called mass murder or genocide. but if its the jews its a holocaust?
millions have perished in iraq and afgan. no holocaust there? bias?
peterbaelish3 3 weeks ago
@peterbaelish3: "if you don't know that mao is responsible for millions and millions of his own countrymen deaths,"
I basically implied that Mao's policies were incompetent and rather negligent, as what happened in the Ukraine 30 years earlier, so yes, his regime was responsible for that.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
@MiracleMile90 i disagree i think they were more negligent then just being incompetent. but thats another topic.
like i said i dont deny the holocaust, but it seems people and media place in my opinion to much importance on this event. yes historically it is significant, yes it is somewhat of a unique case. but it is not the only time one peoples have tried to eliminate another. the native american holocaust is never talked about, like it didn't happen. but everyone knows hitler?
peterbaelish3 3 weeks ago
@peterbaelish3: Okay, you do have a valid point here: The Native American tragedy also deserves far more research & discussion that what it's gotten currently.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
@peterbaelish3: "every other time peoples have been mass murdered its called mass murder or genocide. but if its the jews its a holocaust?"
The Armenians had suffered one too, in WWI. The Nazis also killed Poles and Romani as well.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
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Show us the gas chambers.
TheWhiteEuropeans 3 weeks ago
You claim the Holocaust wasn't used to justify the U.S. entering the war? There are hundreds of reports filed in the Library of Congress by Jews/expartisans/Communists/ Etc... on the supposed abuses of the Jews by the Germans in camps. Pearl Harbor was just the icing on the cake but the US was gearing up for war with Germany well before Dec 1941. These reports include the soap myth, lamp shades,pneumatic hammer killings,atom bombs and countless other disproved myths of this hoax. Read up sonny!!
stlskin 3 weeks ago
the 1969 book "Myth of the Six Million" by Harvard scholar David Hoggan exposed why the alien dominators employed the "Holocaust" propaganda against the defeated Germans. The main purpose was to camouflage the many mass murders of civilians by the Allies such as Holodomor, Katyn forest, Bromberg, Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne, Royan, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The "Holocaust" propaganda lies were subsequently used to steal Palestine and provide justification for the occupation of Germany.
ElevenHolesInOne 4 weeks ago
@ElevenHolesInOne: I'm sorry, but the Ukraine famine was no real genocide, and the Dresden death toll may have been greatly overestimated. And what, pray tell, happened to Royan?
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
the jews always slander their enemies with hateful lies such as "Holocaust" and "Exodus" to brainwash the next generation of jews into the belief that the other races need to be enslaved to ensure jewish survival. The Civil War-era essay "The Bible View of Slavery" by Rabbi Raphall revealed why the jews always aim to enslave the other races. All of the make-believe jewish patriarchs were written down as slave-owners so that future jews could always claim the religious right to own slaves.
ElevenHolesInOne 2 weeks ago
@ElevenHolesInOne: Well, there were some Southern Jews who did try to justify slavery......although many northern ones didn't. It was more of a regional thing than anything else.
MiracleMile90 2 weeks ago
This guy's a tool. The holocaust wasn't used to push for war with Germany but it sure as hell was used to justify Israel's wars & genocide against the Palestinians. And everything else they do in the Middle East and the US and Europe and all over the world.
FantasticBob7000 4 weeks ago
LOL Votebote?
1. Bro your vid is not only insulting
2. You clearly show that you had not watched one third of the holocaust. If you had watched even the first five minutes you would have got the meaning title right
3. Also you claim the Canuck made the movie he took a clip from, thats very misleading
To be honest I'm suprised your vid has any positive votes
utubedetective72 1 month ago
LOL!!! Are you trolling bro?
I don't know who made that vid but it wasn't the angry Canuck. One third of the holocaust was the movie that clip came from.
Also it wasnt caled that because only 2 mill died, it was because the movie only covered one third of the deaths because it only aimed to debunk three camps. You obviously didn't watch the movie your criticising lol.
utubedetective72 1 month ago
Just to put something straight after watching every one of his video which aren't blocked or banned for me.
He never ever states that the holocaust was the reason given for the US entering the war with Germany.
It was a retrospective justification.
Psywar invented the seed that grew into the holocaust towards the end of the war in the denazification of Germany.
Pearl Harbour was the reason the US entered the war with Japan, not Germany.
cabadejo 1 month ago
I have watched all the AngryCanuck's videos on his website. Just discovered who he is from this. Thanks.
He is a hero.
Well argued evidence.
This video gives no evidence. His site gives hours of material that do.
cabadejo 1 month ago
lmao that's the guy who went on to troll the beer-brewing community on YouTube. Haha. Angry Canuck.
Wishchrono 1 month ago
holohoax
614streets 1 month ago
Bull shit the word Holocaust isn't a Hebrew word it's not in the Torah. The Zionist elites made up that word along with their identity. The Bible says when the real Israelites are back in their homeland the entire world will be at peace. The people occupying Israel today are not the Biblical Israelites they are converts.
megalon07 1 month ago
The ignorance of people in this world never ceases to amaze me. "They're making a 9/11 museum thats gonna tell you that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters did it. Doesn't make it so", "The Jews have owned the US government since the 1890s", "Holocaust promoters have no evidence to back up their wild gas chamber/human soap and lampshade claims", and my favorite,"Physical evidence? where are all the bodies?What documents?" (Thank you "kissfan7" for the last one it was hilarious).People are so dumb!
mindright13 2 months ago 7
@mindright13 I strongly suggest you do a little research into your own stupidity before you venture down this path. ;) You have zero comprehension of what really happened; let alone the reality you live in.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@mindright13 You have no evidence that the holocaust was real, that 9/11 wasn't by Jews, look at both ways son
mastercheff1216 2 weeks ago
@mastercheff1216 you don't have any evidence except for a couple of people saying they heard explosives etc rubbish
greg91ification 1 week ago
@mindright13 You're a jerk !
merionuk 2 weeks ago
history should always be treated like a criminal court case, mere words should not prove anything as they wouldn't in a murder trial it should be for starting points, hear both sides find credible evidence such as physical and scientific, once you've received all that you can get come to your most logical conclusion, i do this for every historical, economic, political and scientific debate and this is no exception. and generally those who call people idiots with no argument are themselves so.
ultradumbass 2 months ago
@ultradumbass and to prove my point even more this video person here is an ultradumbass. canada didn't enter the war because "we're their bitch." we did it by choice, great britain declared war on september 3 and we didn't declare it until september 10, furthermore we weren't originally planning on fighting ww2 on the same scale as ww1, lyon mackenzie king originally wanted canada to fight a limited economic supply war to britain and only called for mass armies after the loss of dunkirk.
ultradumbass 2 months ago
A museum in DC? What does that prove?
zappa1777 2 months ago
@zappa1777 that the holocaust happened, jackass.
DrPwN131 2 months ago 3
@DrPwN131 A museum proves that. Sorry but Its gonna take more than that. The history we are taught is full of lies. I want to see evidence, not some stupid museum. They're making a 9/11 museum thats gonna tell you that 19 cave dwellers with box cutters did it. Doesnt make it so.
zappa1777 2 months ago
@zappa1777 so then, who do you think attacked us on 9/11?
DrPwN131 2 months ago
@DrPwN131 I have a few ideas but they are just my ideas. When we get an actual investigation we will find out. What I will say is that it wasn't 19 cave dwellers with box cutters.
zappa1777 2 months ago
@zappa1777 Oh, so you're one of those crackpot conspiracy theorists that believes that the moon landing was staged. Why dont you watch that bullshit mockumentary called Loose Change and live in your fantasy world.
DrPwN131 2 months ago
@DrPwN131 Nice. When you dont have anything intelligent to offer you resort to ridicule and insults. 2 planes cant make 3 buildings collapse and 757s dont vanish into thin air when crashing into buildings. Whos living in a fantasy world?
zappa1777 2 months ago
@zappa1777 2 planes can easily take down 3 buildings; and the 757s didn't "vanish". Now, one thing that cannot happen; is planting explosives in a building full of people, without anyone having noticed, let alone not making a sound when detonating. Do some research if you wish not to be a brain dead fool. It is you that is living in a fantasy.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx 2 planes can take down 3 buildings? Your a funny guy!
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Bush could somehow organize hundreds of thousands if not millions, of people to orchestrate an attack on his own soil; while having explosives planted in a building with thousands of people inside, and no witnesses....and not one person would come forward....yet he could barely win an election without people in Florida having to be recounted and alleged to be fraudulent? You are hilarious!
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx Did I say that Bush did it?
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 ...was it the Jews too? :O Ha ha
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx Oh now I said it was the Jews? Your an idiot. Do some research. Then come and give me shit. In that order.
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 I have done more research than you can dream of doing. I choose not to take you seriously because you are clearly retarded.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx Oh good. Then you can list all the terrorists who have been charged with these crimes. Right?
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Tell you what; I'll do you one better and list the names of Afghanis whom I have listened to tell the stories of not only the hijackers, but also the men who planned the attack, and bin Laden himself, all of whom were known by them. Neamatollah Nojumi was a mujahideen warrior who fought alongside Ahmed Massoud and Mohammed Omar...I'm sure you know who they are hey? ;) Do you know anyone from Afghanistan with first hand experience with these organizations too? ;)
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx Who has been charged? When evidence is found criminals are charged. Who has been charged?
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Kinda hard to charge someone who is dead genius. How about what happened to Ahmed Massoud. What is your opinion on that? Should the US have been skeptical of Gilbaddin Hekmatyar during their involvement with the mujahideen? Why were Afghanis fond of Omar? All of this plays major factors into what happened on 9/11. As an "educated" person who has done his research, surely you should know the answers to this.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx You first. Who has been charged?
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Several people have been. The reason the hijackers are not charged is because they are dead idiot. Unlike you, I do not avoid answering real relevant points. ;) Do take the time to speak to these people. How many Afghanis have you spoken to about what they witnessed first hand? How many Afghani's stories have you heard?
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx You cant answer my question because nobody has been charged. If Im wrong please enlighten me. Who has been charged. Names please!
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid Bin ‘Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, and Mustafa al Hawsawi are among those being charged for their orchestration of the 9/11 attacks. The hijackers themselves have not been charged beacause they are dead moron. What would be the point in charging someone who is dead? Who is Mohammed Omar?
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx Ok progress. Ill look into that. Thanks. So why wasnt Bin Laden charged?
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 bin Laden was charged. The same as Hekmatyar, Omar and everyone else as an international terrorist recognized by the United Nations. I would say sending in the Joint Special Operations Command with Special Forces from all of the most powerful western nations after him and killing him would be testimony of this now wouldn't you?
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx Was he? Funny that the FBI say they had no evidence linking him to 9/11 and he wasnt wanted for 9/11 on his FBI page. Go take a look. His page is still up.
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Could have something to do with the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigations is a national agency and does not deal with international cases; that is the CIA's job. THE FBI have only listed the connections in which he is known for certain to be involved in. It mentions other suspected attacks on the US. Again, the FBI does not handle international cases; the CIA does.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@zappa1777 FYI, the FBI, like the CIA and all other government agencies does have information which is not given to the public. Just because you see it on their website does not mean they do not have further intel either.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@zappa1777 According to Dale L Watson, the Executive Assistance Director of the Counter Terrorism/Counterintelligence Division of the FBI in his February 6, 2002 report "FBI Testimony about 9/11 terrorists' motives", the FBI has "clear and irrefutable" evidence linking bin Laden to 9/11. The White House also has a report confirming this as well. Thanks to the freedom of information act; all of this information is readily available for you to see.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Now that I have answered your questions, how about you answer mine? Was the US decision to fund the mujahideen through the Pakistani ISI the appropriate decision, or should they have considered other means of aiding them, based on the concept that Pakistan's involvement would be in direct relation to their own interests; including on Gulbaddin Hekmatyar. Having done the funding through the ISI, should the US have taken responsibility for Hekmatyar and done something about him earlier?
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@xFogxofxWarx The US shouldnt fund any one. They have enough issues at home ant their meddling in other peoples business can do no good. How would they like it if the tables were turned.
zappa1777 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Such a statement only shows that you have not researched into these people. Do take the time to educate yourself through the study of those who witnessed it first hand; and then make a valid opinion. The tables have been turned, and the US accepted the help warmly.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@zappa1777 How can you explain the Taliban assassination of Ahmed Massoud, the most favoured Afghan leader; and founder of the Northern Alliance; rival to the Taliban, who held control of Kabul, the capital; at the request of al Qaeda, if it was not them that attacked the WTC? Seeing as Massoud was the one man who was capable of defeating the Taliban/al Qaeda should the US invade, it plays a major important role that he was assassinated two days before the attack.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@zappa1777 and lastly, I asked you how many Afghanis you have spoken with, or at least heard the stories of life under Taliban rule and heard first hand of their experiences with bin Laden/al Qaeda or the men involved in the attacks?
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
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@zappa1777, "Funny that the FBI say they had no evidence linking him to 9/11 and he wasnt wanted for 9/11 on his FBI page", the FBI never claimed they didn't have evidence which linked him to 9/11, they just didn't mention it soley on his Most Wanted Page. FBI has admited multiple times in the report that they link him to 9/11. And by the way, why would it matter to them if they didn't posted something like that on a internet webpage?
AstroWaldo 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Do explain the US involvement with Gulbaddin Hekmatyar, and how that played a major role in shaping Afghanistan post Soviet invasion. How did this aid in the formation of the Taliban, and when and where did al Qaeda form? What does al Qaeda mean and what was its purpose in the 1980s? What was the predecessor of al Qaeda and who was the leader of it prior to bin Laden? How did the assassination on Ahmed Massoud factor into 9/11?
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@zappa1777 as an enlightened and well researched individual, you should be able to explain these details as they pertain to the events in question. Surely you wouldn't just look up the aftermath and one side of how it happened now would you? :D
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
@zappa1777 Cave dwellers? HA HA HA. Al Qaeda was trained in Afghanistan under Taliban rule. A.) They didn't dwell in caves, they lived in organized infrastructure on bases funded by Taliban, al Qaeda and Pakistani contributions; and they were far from as primitive as you like to think. Prior to 9/11, the Taliban had an Air Force with hundreds of helicopters and MiG 21 fighters....just a little FYI. ;) You really think it would be hard for them to train these guys?
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago 2
holocaust deniers are such idiots. it's not worth debating them, you'll never change their mind, all the evidence out there they dont wana beleive it? fuck em..move on, they wont change the truth of history, they can yap on youtube thats pretty much all they can do...dont think they can kill 6 million at that time? In Rwanda they killed 800,000 in a disorganized fashion in 100 days, i dont think it would have taken too long fir the Nazis to kill over 6 million...
TheVenturino123 2 months ago
@TheVenturino123 Holohoax promoters are the ones who never change their minds. Still stuck on the outlandish (and discredited) 6 million figure. I have already changed mine already from a believer to a skeptic. Today in a world of the internet & instant worldwide communication 50% of Americans still believe they found WMD in Iraq! Now imagine the ignorance of people back in the 1940's when this story came out. Supported by government propaganda and the corporate media. It was all lies lies lies.
jfb17042 2 months ago
@TheVenturino123: "In Rwanda they killed 800,000 in a disorganized fashion in 100 days, i dont think it would have taken too long fir the Nazis to kill over 6 million.."
So true. Funny how these people will take propaganda pieces like the supposed 'genocide' in the Ukraine or the claim that 66 million people supposedly died in the Gulags(it was more like 20 mil.) as total facts, yet the most documented genocide in the world is denied by them........
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
.....I mean, seriously, don't their shenanigans remind you of Orwellian Newspeak? Y'know, black is white, and all that?
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
If their liberators had not started the war they would have ALL survived.
jfb17042 2 months ago
@jfb17042 oh jeez another one of those types.."france and britian declared war on them!"...ok well hitler invaded/conquered czech, austria and poland before they decleared war, so who is really starting something? have you even read hitler's book? he made it clear he would have started war, but he wanted england on his side, but to take france and eastern europe and more...say what you want but what i said is simple fact lol
TheVenturino123 2 months ago
@TheVenturino123: Yep. Hitler started the war by invading the Czechoslovak Republic and yet Chamberlain actually went out of his way to try to NOT declare war on the Germans. At least Churchill stepped in and did the right thing.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
Let's see... how many « holocausts » in the newspapers since the XIXth century? 6 million plus 6 million plus 6 million... How did the Jews manage to be still here?
Radumo 2 months ago
@AbsentAnyProof And the delusional get thrown into insane asylums while the racist get deservingly ostracized from the rest of society. Which option are you going for?
Ranillon 2 months ago
@AbsentAnyProof Your "argument" is just pure paranoia without any basis in reality. In the US one can freely investigate the Holocaust and even promote (as disgusting as it is) Holocaust Denial, so your claim is absurd on its face. Beyond that such empty-headed anti-semitism just makes you look like a fanatic unable/unwilling to even consider the truth -- e.g. you falally hurt your own argument!
Ranillon 2 months ago
THE AVERAGE ESTIMATE OF TOTAL DEATHS IN WW2, 75MILLION. so why is it that 6million (supposed) jews deaths seem to be the only thing people remember about WW2? the jews have hi jacked the victim badge. and this guy has not done his research. period
debunkNEGATOR 3 months ago
@debunkNEGATOR The others who died ARE remembered -- as any visit to any of the thousands of memorials to them or reading any of the thousands of books about them, etc. show. I just watched a Russian movie about the defense of Brest Fortress, for example -- no mention of the Holocaust there, just the bravery of its doomed defenders.
In fact, this notion of Jews somehow hogging all the victimhood is itself a strawman as the basic claim behind it is a fraud -- and clearly anti-semitic.
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TALMUD SANHEDRIN 55B AND 54B. jews are allowed to have sex with 3yr and 1 day old girls, and sex with under 9yr boys, the talmud says it is alright, also a jew is allowed to kill, steal from, any gentile (non jew), and its not punishable it is just alright, because the non jew, is an animal in human form,jew is allowed to do what he wishes upon non-jew just the thing that any jew would not want u to know,DONT BELIEVE ME, LOOK IT UP.
debunkNEGATOR 3 months ago
So the camps that was found, with suitcases, gold teeth, watches,clothes, shoes, skins, bodies and so on is not true? I have searched the internet about all the concentrationcamps and victims, and I can not believe that all the 1000-and something pages I have found are false...
nilkri80 3 months ago
@nilkri80 hey what are saying? experts who looked into it, say it would take 32yrs to gas 6million people, did u get that? 32 yrs. now work out how many yrs was it from the arrest of jews to the end of war. and 32 yrs , was if the gas chambers were operating 24yrs a day,at max. capacity. work it out, most say the numbers would be like 200,to 300 thousand, NOT 6 MILLION.
debunkNEGATOR 3 months ago
@debunkNEGATOR This is just completely wrong. The gas chambers could process hundreds to a thousand at a time while burning the bodies was easier than you think as the bodies themselves provided most of the "fuel". This whole idea is based on taking flawed and conveniently large time estimates and ignoring all the masses of evidence to the contrary. It also ignores how the Nazis themselves listed the dead in totals of 100s of thousands to millions (depending on the document and time period).
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@Ranillon ooh, can u please tell me the size of gas chambers, mind make sure that the info. is independent, it has to be that. thanx
debunkNEGATOR 2 months ago
@debunkNEGATOR The size of the gas chambers depends greatly on the place and time you select. The largest could do in 2000 at a time, but there were chambers much smaller at other times and places. OTOH, the chambers (and furnaces) at Auschwitz could handle as many as 20,000 a day. So, the answer to your question depends on the place and time.
As for an "independent source" there are PLENTY -- and please don't try to argue that any source that isn't Holo Denial is by definition "bad."
Ranillon 2 months ago
@Ranillon The sad thing is, some people will believe anything.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
@Ranillon also either way. there was 75-85million killed in WW2, which makes the 6million jews less than 10%, so 90% of killed were christians/muslims/buddahist etc. how did the jews seem to have hi jacked the "victim" badge ? was it a ploy to get the land in palestine.? through the balfour treaty?
debunkNEGATOR 2 months ago
@debunkNEGATOR They HAVEN'T "stolen" the "victim badge" -- ALL the dead of WW2 are mourned and remembered (I just visited the WW2 memorial in DC recently, for example). Your argument is inherently fallicious!
Ranillon 2 months ago
@Ranillon well u gogle victims of WW2, its all about jews, jews jews, they get compensation from WW2, at the same time kill palestinians, bunch of hypocrites, but then again they were always that way, thats why GOD cursed them, thats why Moses throw the 10 commandments at them, he rescued them from bondage, the sea opend for them ,and they still worshippd bamphoet, yes evil,so there u go,
debunkNEGATOR 2 months ago
@debunkNEGATOR All this sort of response does it reveal you to be a classic anti-semite who will interpret anything that "Jews" (your very definition of the term is warped) do as "evil" regardless of the facts. You just lost any credibility you might have had. Only other anti-semites will give you the time the day. The rest of us (99.9% of the population) will just see you as the morally bankrupt racist your are.
Ranillon 2 months ago
@Ranillon what part of what i said was incorrect.? all i said is there , right in the holy books, and being a jew does NOT MAKE U A SEMITE, u are most probably a european jew. which is not a semite, so stop pretending to be a semite, semites are only about 10% of the world jews.
debunkNEGATOR 2 months ago
@debunkNEGATOR
1) EVERY part was incorrect as it is based on ignorant and hateful racist attitudes
2) "Anti-semite" has a clear and definite definition in the English language. Please look it up.
3) I haven't a drop of Jewish blood in me going back at least ten generations. I say what I say because it is the TRUTH, not because it'll gain me any possible personal benefit. I also don't happen to agree with many Israeli policies, but that doesn't change the reality of the Holocaust!
Ranillon 2 months ago
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@debunkNEGATOR: "well u gogle victims of WW2, its all about jews, jews jews, they get compensation from WW2," Some Romani and Poles died too.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
@debunkNEGATOR: Sure, 85 mill. died in WW2. But you know something? We didn't start the war, the Germans and the Japanese did.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
........maybe i havent studied the subject enough, but i have only stumbled upon one document that states that Hitler ordered the killing of Jews in ww2.......And experts from all over clames that that this document is fake ???? I too agree that we should doubt what is written in the history books about this matter....If we cant question it, then it is probably a lie.......I´m from Denmark, a neighbor to Germany, and ww2 has been a big part of what i have been taught in school.... What a waste .
HVEMERHESTEN 3 months ago
@HVEMERHESTEN There are a number of direct reports from people who talked with Hitler about it. More importantly, the idea that somehow Hitler was out of the loop is completely daft. He was like the spider in the middle of the web who everyone else ultimately reported to. No one or group would have dared carry out a gigantic operation like the Holocaust without his CONSTANT and ROUTINE approval -- at best attempting so meant a ruined career, at worst being shot!
Ranillon 2 months ago in playlist Liked
What a bunch of BS, I watched the documentary in question and he doesn't say that the holocaust was the cause for the US or anyone else to enter WW2. He says that the Holocaust is cited as part of the horrors of WW2 by historians, just like babies in incubators (lie), WMDs(lies), golf of Tonkin (lie). Way to deform things. BTW it wasn't spam bots that thumbed this down, it was people like me that can see through your BS...
manniman82 3 months ago 5
@manniman82 evidently you cannot see through all the BS. ;)
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jfb17042 3 months ago
If anyone likes the people of the world, is anti-war, pacifist. and do NOT WANT to have these cruel acts, then how the fuck can people get MAD because of people saying less people died? its like people want them to die. Also, please:)look into Holocaust - Zionism - Israel. Look at the world today.
Etrajbe 3 months ago
@Etrajbe The reason is that "The Holocaust" is more than just history. It is now constantly invoked as a reason to kill, and invade other countries. Saddam Hussein had to be stopped to prevent another holocaust. Now we are told we must attack Iran to prevent a holocaust. The illegitimate apartheid regime called Israel was created because of this weird wacky horror story about human soap, lampshades made from skin and 6 million killed in gas chambers. The Holocaust is all about protecting Israel.
jfb17042 3 months ago
@jfb17042 I know that :)
Etrajbe 3 months ago
@jfb17042 While the only holocaust as of no is the prosecution of Islam..
Etrajbe 3 months ago
what a dumbass the gas chambers were fake not the fucking holocaust. HOW COULD YOU BE SUCH AN IDIOT AND SAY IT DIDNT HAPPPEN YOU DICK!!!!!!!!
MultiGodfather 3 months ago
@jfb17042 You are offering us an old, tired Holocaust Denier strawman. One, HD is only illegal in a few countries and only when offered as a full "historical" theory from scratch -- e.g. a conclusion rather than real history/science which is a long trail of evidence leading to a conclusion. Two, If you want to research and talk about the Holocaust go right ahead. What you can't do in a few countries is offer preset ideological/racist conclusions masquerading as real historical research.
Ranillon 3 months ago
@Ranillon The buzzword "holocaust denier" is the real straw man which says that people who don't believe the entire fantastic story deny the entire event, which they do not. I think you know this though, so your use of the term holocaust denier reveals some dishonesty in your argument. A clever tactic of the holocaust promoters has been to shift the burden of proof to the questioners claiming the dogma know today as "The Holocaust" has been proven (which it has not).
jfb17042 3 months ago
@jfb17042 Are you kidding? The reality of the Holocaust has been proven a thousand times over with mountains of records, first hand witnesses, remaining sites, and so forth. At this point the reality of the Holocaust HAS BEEN PROVEN!!! That means that if you want to argue that those legions of historians, photos, videos, witnesses, etc somehow got it wrong it is up to YOU to prove it -- as is always the requirement of anyone trying to overturn established wisdom. So, drop the faux outrage.
Ranillon 3 months ago
@Ranillon Ok I'll say it again. Nobody denies the holocaust, just that parts of the story have been exaggerated. I cant blame the Jews, after all they were unfairly persecuted and had the perfect opportunity to make up a real whopper. The Axis was defeated and all their leaders dead. Allies nations were in full control of all news and information. It was the Soviets who first strutted into Nuremberg in 1946 and proclaimed millions killed by the Nazi's just like they lied about the Katyn Forest.
jfb17042 3 months ago
@jfb17042 Yes, reducing the Holocaust down to an "exaggeration" IS denying it -- you're just trying to use a trick of the language to make it sound like you aren't. After all, I am sure you aren't suggesting it was "exaggerated" by a few percentage points, but more like 80-90% -- which in practice is to reduce it down to nothing important. The facts quite obviously don't support that and there is no valid logical or historical reason to make such a sick claim, just ideological/racist reasons.
Ranillon 3 months ago
@Ranillon So over 200,000 dead in a Typhus epidemic from being forced into crowded prison camps is unimportant ? I'm not racist, I'm a realist and a skeptic. Even today half of American believe they found WMD in Iraq, 90% believe an invisible man in the sky created the universe in 7 days. Just because many people believe in something doesn't make it true. There is compelling evidence that the gas chamber story is a lie, but it is suppressed by the establishment as sacrilegious pseudoscience.
jfb17042 3 months ago
@jfb17042 The only so-called "compelling" evidence that the gas chambers aren't real come from Neo-Nazi/anti-semite inventions. Any respected historical and scientific group knows they were real because all the evidence shows it -- mountains of German records, the physical evidence, the masses of eye witness accounts. What, are all those thousands and thousands involved lying? A person who doesn't believe in the full Holocaust isn't interested in truth, just his self-serving ideology/racism.
Ranillon 3 months ago
@Ranillon Ask any lawyer, eyewitness testimony can be unreliable. People lie or image things that never happened, are told things by others who have claimed to have seen something. When rumors and lies are backed up by official government policy they take on the semblance of historical reality. As for German records I'm actually surprised there aren't more out there, with the Allies in possession of all Nazi stationery, official stamps and seals they could have fabricated all sorts of evidence.
jfb17042 3 months ago
@jfb17042 You give the typical conspiracy nut reply - lots of evidence against you? Dismiss it all with a wave of the hand as being lies of the "great (jewish) conspiracy". How convenient! As for eye-witnesses, they might get small details wrong, but there is no way they could misremember entire YEARS of their life! Besides, if the evidence of thousands of historians/scientists can't be trusted then how can a few pitiful neo-nazi/anti-semitc sources with clear ideological agendas be trusted?
Ranillon 3 months ago
@Ranillon: "What you can't do in a few countries is offer preset ideological/racist conclusions masquerading as real historical research."
Exactly so.
MiracleMile90 3 weeks ago
Holocaust justifying the war - not excuse for ENTERING you imbecile. Making nazis look mega evil, thus making the war just. Turn on your brain.
qyxzz 4 months ago
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Pressac was a Zionist mole. He had mountains of something, but it wasn't evidence (it was B.S.) As far as lampshades and soap you had better check with Irene Weisberg Zisblatt, she saw them with her own eyes. LoL! And what about sawing babies in half, shrunken heads and injecting blue dye into eyes and lets not forget evil experiments on twins. Kinda hard to believe right ? Let's just say tens of thousands of Jews died in a Typhus epidemic in the camps. Isn't that bad enough? Why make up lies ?
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jfb17042 4 months ago 2
THE DUMB MOTHER FUCKER FROM CANADA CAN'T EVEN SPELL "RESEARCH." LET ALONE DO ANY.
siannarino 4 months ago
@jfb17042 It's not illegal to question the Holocaust in the US, so that refutes your argument. The only legitimate basis to question the Holocaust is based on evidence. That is, however, apparently too complicated for you to handle. The deniers have no evidence to back up their BS claims. Just lying punks.
ExistentialistPeace 4 months ago
@ExistentialistPeace Holocaust promoters have no evidence to back up their wild gas chamber / human soap and lampshade claims. Just a load of BS from a bunch of lying old Jews.
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@jfb17042 Pressac, for example, has a mountain of evidence debunking all of the deniers' claims regarding the gas chambers. As far as the lampshades and soap comments, those were made by the soviets. Th Jews aren't responsible for their shit, as Israel made the USSR look like shit during the cold war. The fact is all denial literature is based on either lies or pure fantasy. That's why it is recognized in the science community as a pseudo-science and a belief for dummies. Like you.
ExistentialistPeace 4 months ago
@jfb17042 False. Hitler and his party wanted the Jews exterminated just like you do. Do you actually expect anyone to believe that 6 million Jews simply dissapeared from countries that just happened to be controlled by a nation run by an Anti-semetic party?
KaiserReich98 2 months ago
@KaiserReich98 I wouldn't say they disappeared, many just changed their names and assimilated. Holocaust promoters point to official censuses do show the reduction in numbers Jews. Now what Jew in his right mind would admit to any government agency to being a Jew after what had just happened?
jfb17042 2 months ago
@jfb17042 They would admit it to the government that just liberated them, the one that was going to give them THEIR OWN nation.
KaiserReich98 2 months ago
@jfb17042 your such a prick. it happened. what is wrong with you? i wish i could stab you in the face right now. why are you so stupid? go to school! oh wait! your probably too poor to afford school. thats why your so stupid. your so morally retarded. your hav NO proof at all to support your answer. so your wrong. so stop talking. douchebag...
auggiej1 1 month ago
@jfb17042 Actually, substantial evidence exists to back up the gas chambers/human soap and lampshade claims. You can visit concentration camps in Germany that still contain these particular objects. There is however, zero credibility to any of the claims that it didn't happen.
xFogxofxWarx 1 month ago
Boy, do I hate idiots who try to have us believe the Holocaust is a lie! But it doesn't work because you know they're people who have grudges against Jews for some reason or other. And the tactics they use are so desperate, pathetic and tiresome that they're almost laughable.
Goodiesfanful 4 months ago
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@jfb17042 actually quite a few do.
Dubious reasoning and fallacious, Denying the Holocaust is illigal in some countries as general anti-Nazi leglislation. Ironically stupid Holocaust denier/dimminish bullshit actually wastes time and resoarces which could be invested in actual useful historical research on the subject. Logically by your arguement if something is illigal does that give it legitimacy?
angrydead 4 months ago
@jfb17042 Actually quite a few do.
Dubious reasoning and fallacious, Denying the Holocaust is illigal in some countries as general anti-Nazi leglislation. Ironically stupid Holocaust denier/dimminish bullshit actually wastes time and resoarces which could be invested in actual useful historical research on the subject. Logically by your arguement if something is illigal does that give it legitimacy?
angrydead 4 months ago
@superfawful64 sorry i really thought you were a confused child, I don't always see my typos thanks for pointing it out.
TheAlexJonesCult 4 months ago
@superfawful64 a 9/11 truther is someone who ignores facts and anything else that debunks there little fantasy on how 9/11 was an inside job. and they love to take quotes out of content to boost there beliefs, and they will call you an idiot or a shill if you dare disagree with them.
TheAlexJonesCult 4 months ago
lol 9/11 truhers are similar to the holocaust deniers.
TheAlexJonesCult 4 months ago
Holocaust - It never happened.
jamestherandomer 4 months ago
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@jamestherandomer Dude. . .you're mother should have swallowed that load. What a moron you must be.
ski2exs 4 months ago
Holocaust is jewish rats LIE. Jews are murderers,liars syphilis on planet Earth subhuman satanic filth . The real holocaust was 147 millions Russian christians,men,women and children's shot to the heads by jew swine communist. Your time is up you jewish RATS no more you BS. The real holocaust was written for you jew swine in our book of life"OBADIAH"you jew swines your time is UP !!!
Richtar244 4 months ago
@Richtar244 you're a charming fellow arnt you?
angrydead 4 months ago
Two kinds of FOOLS those who deny the existence of GOD and those who deny the holocaust. GOD Will Judge!!!!
loverofgod71 4 months ago
@loverofgod71 Matthew 5:22
kissfan7 4 months ago
@jfb17042 "The very fact that the holocaust is illegal to question is reason alone to doubt it."
I hear this argument all the time and it still makes no sense.
The United States has defamation laws, though they are less strict than most. For example, it would be illegal for me to call a school teacher a pedophile without evidence, because it would make it harder for him/her to get a job. Now, just because it's illegal to say "Jane Smith sexually abuses kids", does that make it true?
kissfan7 4 months ago
@kissfan7 I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. I am not accusing the holocaust revisionists of defamation, the defamers are the holocaust promoters. They defame and blackmail the German people.
jfb17042 4 months ago
@jfb17042 You said, "The very fact that the holocaust is illegal to question is reason alone to doubt it." I was pointing out that just because saying X is illegal does not mean X is true. I used defamation as an example.
And no, people who know the Holocaust happened are not defamers. First, it did happen as every sane historian of the period knows. Second, even if it didn't, saying something bad about a government, in this case Nazi Germany, is not defamation under the First Amendment.
kissfan7 4 months ago
@kissfan7 Everyone knows it happened, the camps still exist to this day. What is in question is the gas chamber legend and 6 million dead. Whats wrong with saying Jews were mistreated and expelled from their homes, and many thousands died in the camps from a Typhus epidemic, isn't that bad enough? The exaggerated figures in the millions were a case of the victorious powers piling it on after they won the war.
jfb17042 4 months ago
@jfb17042 The gas chambers aren't in dispute. We know because of documents, physical evidence, intel, and the testimony of former guards and sonderkommandos. Six million is an estimate, but all sane historians put the number at far above five million.
"Whats [sic] wrong with saying Jews were mistreated and expelled[?]"
Because it's neglects to mention the einsatzgruppen massacres, gassings, slave labor, and the deadly conditions in the camps and ghettos they were forced into.
kissfan7 4 months ago
@jfb17042 "many thousands died in the camps from a Typhus epidemic"
But why did they die? If I kidnap a bunch of people; put them in horrible, crowded conditions; experiment on them; and force them to perform slave labor and then they die as a result, wouldn't I be charged with murder?
"The exaggerated figures in the millions were a case of the victorious powers piling it on after they won the war."
First, can you prove this? Second, why did they do it? What other genocides have been faked?
kissfan7 4 months ago
@kissfan7 Of course they were badly treated, but so were many ethnic German civilians during and after the war by the Allies What is the old saying ? The first casualty of war is the truth. Throughout human history the winners write the history books. The winner is always portrayed as righteous, the loser always despicable and evil.
I can't prove the gas chamber stories are fake, You can't prove they are not fake.
You should watch the video by David Cole about Auschwitz, It's on YouTube.
jfb17042 4 months ago
@jfb17042 Holocaust Denier...what a moron...indeed what a racist.
sugarhitman 4 months ago
@sugarhitman Na, just more like a diminisher. Zionists are the racists.
jacknjennb 4 months ago
@jacknjennb ROFL. . . hilarious. . .'diminishing'. . . .is that kind of like a denialist's dick?
Fucking riot man!!
ski2exs 4 months ago
@kissfan7 Physical evidence ? where are all the bodies ? Documents ? not sure what document\s exist that prove millions gassed. BTW I have in my possession an original copy of Lincoln's Gettysburg address. Intel ? Did someone enter a gas chamber and come out alive to tell what happened ? Former guards ? confessions through torture (But we never tortured, we are the good guys right?) Sondercommandos ? Opportunistic Jews who saw their chance to get back at their German captors by making up lies.
jfb17042 4 months ago
@jfb17042 Cont. the Jews, but people who were against Hitler, POWs, and even pure Germans who were deformed. Also, there is way more evidence to back up that it is true, then if it never happened. Would you like it if your family died from someone murdering them, and there was a group of people who thought it was a fake, and thought the murderer should be let go because you were faking/lying about the whole thing? That would be kinda fucked up, right?
kidluvsu64 4 months ago