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  • But isn't the difference between the experience of the science and your experience of a UFO is that science can provide evidence for its claims? Modern science does not reject ideas because it conflicts with the current idea, history can testify to that. I suppose If we wanted to say science is dogmatic the only way we can say that is because it only accepts claims that are supported by evidence and if one does not value evidence one does not value science.

  • very interesting video thanks

  • some really good stuff here

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  • RELAX, WHY DID YOU MAKE THE VIDEO TO SHOW HOW NOBODY IS GOING TO LISTEN BECAUSE OF THE EVIL CHURCH ? GIMME A BREAK, THE CHURCH TAKES HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO ARIVE AT ANSWERS . IF YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY SAY IT.

    GIANFRANCO FRONZI

  • @9493760 ah yes. surely the wisest man types with all caps.

  • @m0ose0909 AS YOU SAY IN YOUR OWN WORDS.. TWMTWAC .

    G. FRONZI. JAN. 1/ 12

  • I wanna find the whole lecture! x\ the link is not working. o.O

  • The title is better than the lecture. The religion of Buddha aside. The actual belief that everyone is divine and their own Buddha was what Buddha taught. The religion built around that belief detracts from the power of the message. There was nothing special about Buddha. He new that. He knew everyone was just as divine as he was. In the world today, if everyone believed that, there would be a lot of peace and harmony. The greedy elite wouldn't want that happening. They need slaves.

  • Please read what the greatest Scientist of all time Einstien told about Buddhism. I think you are not even a dust of his feet.

  • All spiritual groups tap into Buddhism. Catholic Cardinals are sent to Zen Monasteries to study, The Occult members fought like hell to get into Tibet. Elena Blavasky was taught by Buddhist. You don't have to abandon your religion for Buddhism. Buddhism is not a religion, it is a study into the nature of reality. It should compliment your religion. Only Islam has attacked Buddhism, however, even Islam was Modified by contact with Buddhism. See Sufism.

  • Buddhism seems to support science!!!...Christianity seems to be against it...so fuck christianity!

  • @antievil777 of course christianity would not support something that creates instriments to destroy the earth and kill people... thats the root of something much more sinister.

  • !Namaste,

    BerL!N.

  • Then the sign of the son of man will appear in the sky, and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with great power and glory, and ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH SHALL MOURNE, EVEN THOSE WHO HAVE PIERCED HIM!

    Even so, Come Lord Jesus Christ, Come Quickly.

  • @Qrious93 don't hold your breath...dangerous!

  • @Qrious93 Not to sound too much like a conspiracy theorist, I would recommend u do a search on The Blue Bleam Project on youtube.

  • The Skeptic magazine is an incredibly close-minded and dogmatic magazine that pretends to look at paranormal claims seriously but in reality carries an undertone of mocking such experiences as deluded. It's garbage.

  • you poor thing. you must think your smarter than einstein. why dnt you just listen to your own advice and agree, that you know no better than anyone else.

  • you poor thing.

  • @TranshumanCyborg I bet you read The Book by Alan Watts, though. ;)

  • @TranshumanCyborg That might true, seems as if you've been reading about the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Hehe.

    I'm not sure if I believe that consciousness survives death or not, but if it did, certainly the mind-state you have before death would be important as to where your "mind" may go once the body has died.

  • No matter what you guys are saying, when you die you will know the truth and then you will regret , and it will be too late, while you still have time search for the truth, and the truth will set you free.

  • The interesting thing about science or buddhism,in the overall scope of things ,knowing either one of these things changes either one of these things,if there is no heaven no hell no reward no consequence at death,why would it matter what you learn in life if it all for nothing,or is it all for nothing,if reallity is only real because we observe it, what is our consciouss when unobserved,because to know we exsist physically or spiritually,or conscioussly it has to be observed,right!

  • Physics and Buddhism converge because they are both speaking accurately about the same Universe - DOH

  • There is nothing more amazing in the universe to discover then one's self

  • Christians always get all the bashing don't they? I am a Christian , you can assume I believe in Dogma, which I don't. one love

  • Very well done, the ending was right on target.

  • The only thing that separates us all is the way in which we live our lives and veiw reality. But we are all connected by the same energy living in the same world... so why must people argue about who's better?

  • I key the term "God" as the energy that fills us all, like... the driving force of life. But not as God to be someone I worship because of their deeds. Lol, I'm buddhist and I don't think it really matters what you believe as long as you can somehow find a way to love all no matter who or what they are. We are all the same.

  • better ideas sites.google.com/site/physicsp­hilosophyscience/

  • it's like any other religion

  • try tellin this shit to a closeminded asshole christian it aint happening

  • @mossberg451 Well its just the way they see the world, so you can't really blame them, just be happy with what you understand, and love them unconditionally. Hopefully one day they'll break past their paradigm and see the possibility of different vantage points! :D

  • @mossberg451

    But who has become the closeminded one.You wish to group chirstians together. And if you listen to his lecture he mentions that people are like that today.

  • @mossberg451

    But who has become the closeminded one.You wish to group chirstians together. And if you listen to his lecture he mentions that people(scienetists) are like that today.

  • @mossberg451 I believe in Christ, and I also know that the information in this video is true.

    Christ and Buddha said many similar things. Christianity has been terribly corrupted by MEN.

  • @Rush6477 Yep. Real christians follow Christ's example of how to live their life. Almost all who call themselves Christian are actually unfortunate sheep who actually believe the deceitful words of St Paul and all the rest that actually created Christianity. They took Christ's life but ADDED all the nonsense about salvation, hell, punishment, guilt, turning Jesus into a supernatural being instead of an enlightened man, etc

  • @mossberg451 Not all Christians are closed minded. Many parts of Divine Truth have been mistranslated or removed from multiple religions in the name of greed, fear, and ego. The opposite of Christ Consciousness and the bane of the human species. "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matt. 22:37-39)

  • @mossberg451 You get the same reaction from a close-minded atheist.

  • @mossberg451 not all christians are closeminded assholes. its not advisable to stereotyping people.

  • @mossberg451 Best comment i've ever read! :D

  • dont u think Christians and other religions are so much closer to SHEEP and being followers than thinkers at any rate?

  • its not only bhuddist,its all religions.they all started when someone experience tru consiousness n become elevated.but these original pure teachings becomes manipulated into socio-political orders n r influence by myths n legends.Even jesus say, 'look into urself,God is in you' indian say Atman is Brahman'.but i agree, science today talk about multi-verse,hidden dimensions,that the physical universe is illusion made by our conscious mind etc..

  • @MrMansson10 before you quote on that-make sure you have done some research. oh well i guess the creationism is more scient than the quantum physic-in your mind.

  • Please explain to me the science of karma, the cycle of suffering and rebirth, Naraka beings, Preta, hungry ghost, Asuras,Devas including Brahmas.

    Tell me the science of why a 4 year old child becomes a monk.

    Buddha suggest that we question these things.

  • Its obvious that all matter is just lesser consciousness.

  • YAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the Westerner Buddhism doesn't sound like Cambodian Buddhism. Cambodian Buddhism is more focusing on the Spiritual way. I like Westerner Buddhism because it is more philosophic way, it helps me becoming a good thinker. When people can think of good things we can project it to the world through our hard labour. Less praying and there should be more thinking to find (a) solution(s) to (a) life problem(s).

  • Ken Wilber covers this very well.

  • wasn't Jesus in a Buddhist monastery? didnt he studied buddhism?

  • @aznqazwsx Where was Jesus when he is growing up? There was a possibility that he was at Indian University (Learning Centre).

  • @aznqazwsx Jesus never left Palestine and Buddhism never entered Palestine during his lifetime, so no. I can't you haven't even read the bible.

  • @GreyAutumn *I can't believe

  • do you have the rest of this lecture?

  • @lln003 You should be able to find it on his website, its in the info section! Hope that helps! :D

  • However many aspects of a belief system you can make fit into experimental observations, it still remains what it is: useless.

    Your belief system is unable to make accurate predictions, it's never made a machine work and it is entirely subjective. I respect buddhism and physics but I don't try to mash them together to make me feel better. They are for different things, get over yourselves.

  • @jacksawild I'm Buddhist and I totally agree with you. Too many 'spiritual' people are trying to hijack science and make claims beyond what they should be...

  • @GeraldP1983

    umm...excellent lecture and all, but there is absolutely no (i mean really zilch) talk of the correlation between buddhism and physics in this 10 min piece...i suppose i will check out the mp3's of the rest, but you should be aware that at face value the title of this 10 min vid is rather misleading.

  • @Tartersauce101 As yes, its just an introduction brother! :]

  • @Tartersauce101 I would look at the Antimatteradio channel and look for his vids on Atomic Buddhism.

  • And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-10)

  • Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

  • @Zelzeban because you are just dumb enough to have a narrow mind

  • how can i become a Buddist?

  • @adzaone you don't "become" a buddhist (or anything else of the sort).

    But you can ask ppl to call you that if it would make you feel better:))

    Just live the way you want to live and rest assured that you truly are whatever it is that you actually are.

    The effort of "becoming" smth is not part of being that something. It will actually convince you that you are not there yet.

    Is that a good answer? I'm quite unsure myself:))

    hey, try zen buddhism as long as you are in the neighborhood :)

  • @adzaone Look it up, but you dont have to be a buddhist to believe this. Just realize your true self, realize that you are a conscious creator. In order to do this, look up meditation, or, get a batch of good mushrooms and sit in the dark with your eyes closed.

  • l0l@ budney.. mushrooms ftw

  • @Budney420 Why get a batch of good mushrooms ???? why can't we just sit in a cave and make up dreams, exactly, it's all about dreaming.

  • do good do no harm

  • You already are

  • everything yourmind can imagine is real only in another dimension. so be careful what you think..it can develop a problem with ur karma - as old as it sounds: love is the answer

  • is there a field in science that focuses on the effect that the mind has on the world?

  • its called noetic science or intention

  • That is Quantum Physics. In a Quantum Physics experiment called "The Double Slit Experiment" it showed that when molecules were shot through slits, when they were unobserved they behaved like waves, and when observed they had a definite space. Thus proving that reality is only what ones mind perceives.

  • There are many of scientists who do, but whether science has given it a label and job title I'm not sure.. Google it lol!

  • WHAT about hindusim??

  • Yes Hinduism as well!

  • Thank you for posting this and the accompanying links!

    :)

    "The greatest impediment to discovery is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."

  • Of course! Thank you for watching! :)

  • it's awesome.

    :)

  • [cont] discovered, that energy is nothing but vibrations in space-time. It's amazing that they had this concept of space-time at all. Then there's this bit about the congealing qi. We now know that matter is nothing but a sort of condensed energy.

    Could brilliant minds in ancient China really have arrived at such ideas through pure philosophy, pure reason and insight, without the benefit of accelerators and all the rest of it.

  • It is uncanny the way Eastern mystical thought seems to prefigure modern physics. Consider this from the Huainanzi, 139 BC

    "The [Tao] began in the Nebulous Void

    The Nebulous Void produced space-time

    Space-time produced the primordial qu

    A shoreline divided the primordial qi

    That which was pure and bright spread out to form Heaven

    The Heavy and turbid congealed to form Earth."

    Qi is universal energy. It says space-time produced qi. This is just what modern physics has...[to be cont.]

  • just wanted to say hi, i m a buddhist from burma, who is trying to create a discussion group, with members who have knowlege in various areas, such as physics, buddhism(text),buddhism(modern personal interpretations), Christian/Islam/Judaism/Hindu(­religions that accept one God), and free thinkers. Plz reply if interested, thanx.

  • Yes, count me in. My background is in Western philosophy but I also have a deep affinity with Buddhist and Taoist thought. I am also familiar with, and interested in, the findings of modern physics and in exciting research going on in parapsycology laboratories. I'll say no more for now.

  • I too interested in Buddhism,quantum physic,and anything related to the betterment of humanity.How can I get in touch with you?

  • thank you all is connected to one.

  • I love this guys voice.

  • UFO's? Naturally we must take every experience into account, but if something can be discredited on its own basis, or in relation to known scientific studies - then why should we waste our breath with untestable hypothesis and speculation?

    On the flipside of this coin, any human being regardless of profession should be aware of judgmental preferences. To not fall into the dogma of discrediting anything out of hand, but keep an open mind that is not so open that the brain falls out.

  • good point

  • The matrix is older than you know.. lol

  • DMT ------ look it up!

  • People its right brain and left peoples way of interpeting how to find god.

  • Physics and Buddhism converges because the discoveries made by the buddhist monk and yogis by meditating is just repeated by the scientists using technologies. Its just two ways of finding the ultimate truth and buddhism is far more ahead of science. Science are accepting NOW what buddhist monks and yogis said 2500 years ago.

  • Exactly druktube thats what I find so interesting about Buddhism is the fact that it seemingly unites with science while most other major religions goes against it. Evolution, the big bang theory, atoms, and more could all be traced to Buddhist thought. Also the revolutionary belief of the original Buddha who said that all men and women were created equal, this coming from a country with a highly organized class system is just amazing. Thats just one example of many of course.

  • youll also find it in hinduism....after all sidhdharth gautam was born in india....and hinduism was followed all over india at that time.

  • @druktube exactly. I know its 2 years ago but it rings true.

  • why is it when we talk about history of philosphy or physcology we only start from aristotle,plato etc etc...when there is older history recorded of these things dating back thousands of years before these so called fathers of physcology ever was born.The methodolgy maybe different but there still leading to the same thing thats were they converge.one looks in & one looks out then they end up finding each other.the dog still chasing his tail.

  • what you are talking about, explain it to me plz

    thx a lot

  • i was just saying that all these so called fathers of philosohy & physcology learn from the ancient egyption/kemet & most of these modern day scholars acting like plato, aristotle etc etc..where the begginers of all of this knowledge...& i was responding to the video about how i feel that budhism & science do converge they have different methods of breaking things down but still end up in the same place

  • ok tell my more, you can write down something longer, so send me personal message

    thx

  • it is stated here that buddhism relies on the higher authority of "the buddha". this is only partially true. the teachings of buddhism are not infallible. shakyamuni buddha himself said that empirical evidence is the highest authority, above that of his own teachings. this gives a buddhist teacher only as much authority as, let's say, a teacher of physics. both are able to tell their students when what they think is truth may be flawed, but discoveries of the student can trump the teachers words

  • where on youtube is there a Buddhist forum and how can I get in on that.

  • I'm 3/4 through this video and I still can't hear the convergence between Buddhism and Physics.

    Rosanella

    :-)

  • They may not converge from your point of you.

    They do converge from others point of view.

    While everything seems separated, divergence will exist.

    In fact everything is still united, so there is not point for divergence.

  • buddhas knowledge n wisdom is such he talked ab universe , he knew ab planets n there rotaion , galaxies n galaxies , uncountablw suns etc , he preached to his attendant monk , u can find in suthras , then again buddhism is not ab knowledge , its salvation from sufering, what buddha said was cycle of rebirth exist , by developing wisdom , one stop coming into being , no exisnce , no sufering, simple yet profound , he has shown the way step by step how to do it

  • You made NO point whatsoever!! Buddhism's connection to science is through what the buddha discovered as a result of deep contemplation which results in WISDOM. All the knowledge in the universe can be tapped through insight and so the methodology is certainly different but the results (asa far as knowledge about existience) are the same. Albert Einstein (who you quoted) was a know supporter of Buddhism and was quoted as such several times...

  • i never read that einstein ever converted to buddhism. in his private letters he wrote that all religion was bad childish fairytale. he didn't seem to make an exception for buddhism and its supernatural karmic retribution and reincarnation

  • "The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism" Albert Einstein

  • u know there are einstein quotes that christians use to justify their position as well. again, there is no evidence that einstein became a buddhist, which he would have if he thought buddhism was all that. also, it must be mentioned that the majority of the buddhism practiced around the world today is riddled with plenty of werid dogma (reincarnation etc) - einstein was a brilliant man without a doubt but he was NOT a specialist in buddhism.

  • Really? I would appreciate it if you could reply an Einstein christian quote to me. I have never implied that Einstein was a buddhist. I agree with you, in a lot of places buddhism has been plagued with superstitious nonsense, but this has been done by unenlightened dimwits. One thing I can assure you, practicing buddhism can aid anybody improve its mental and physical health. Regarding Julia Sweeney,

    buddhism is better if you read the teachings from

  • "i would appreciate it if you could reply an Einstein christian quote to me"

    i've not saved whatever the crazy christians were quoting -- sorry! but i've seen plenty of them on youtube. :(

  • If buddhism doesn't ring with your logic, then staying away from it is a good thing to do. Anyway, the book that I recommended you is really good, and i'm not trying to convert you. In that book I found a lot of things that made a lot of sense to me. Take care.

  • i appreciate that -- u know, i find the bible pretty ridiculous for the most part, but there are some parts of it which are absolutely beautiful and profound as well - so i dare say i will find something agreeable about buddhism too -- the world culture has largely been shaped by religion for thousands of years, so i don't deny some interest in studying religion - which actually makes the *superstitious* buddhism more *interesting* in many ways for me.

  • for me all religious books, should, at most, be used as a reference material from time to time, but not to be followed exclusively and *religiously* :-)

    take care!

  • julia sweeney who became an atheists describes how she first considered buddhism when she first renounced catholicism -- but as she travelled all over asia studying buddhism, she became more and more disillusioned because it had its own dogma and weird superstition that was no better than catholicism. eg/ when a child was born with a terrible disease they thought that the child had done soething terrible in previous life. so in the end she ran away from it all and became an atheist.

  • buddha himself, and don't let anybody confuse you with dogma and customs. If you care to learn a little bit about buddhism, I recommend you the book "what the buddha taught" by Walpola Rahula, this is a reliable source.

  • i know there are some buddhists who claim that buddhism as being practiced is NOT true buddhism - sounds familiar?

    that's what most christians say and most muslims say, whenever you criticize their religion. coincidence?

    for my money it seems best just to stay away from any organized religions. nothing good comes from "organized spiritualism" -- even if the idea was good for starters, it always gets caught up in power struggle/politics and shit happens.

  • "that's what most christians say and most muslims say, whenever you criticize their religion. coincidence?"

    The diference is that christianity and islam are beliefs systems that are already based upon supernatural assumptions, buddhism started off as a purely naturalistic philosophy, and later received influence from local folk religions were it spread to. If you take out the supernatural from christianity and islam, they die.... not so with buddhism.

  • yeah -- actually if you take the supernatural out of buddhism, u wil find it no longer a *religion* but a *philosophy* (as u point out) and as such u will find it becoming markedly less popular.

    i'm speaking strictly of buddhism the religion -- and it needs to be criticized just as rigorously as any other religions. also, many buddhists that i met actually think that karmic retribution and reincarnation are NOT supernatural concepts but scientific concepts!! hm....

  • It doesn't matter to me if you call it a religion or a philosophy, in ancient times people didn't really diferentiate between the 2. All I care is that people understand that the superstitious aspect was not taught by Gautama Buddha, he argued against reincarnation and karmic retribution. According to Gautama there is no soul to be reincarnated, all that remains after we die is our influence, how we influence the world is what the buddha called "karma", not any kind of retribution.

  • well it matters to me if people think karmic retribution (not karma) and reincarnation is "scientific"

    and if one keeps defending buddhism itself without differentiating the philosophy of it with how it's actually practiced as a religion, then it's extremely misguided and makes those religious people think that they are right in believing in reincarnation.

  • That's what I'm saying, it doesn't matter if you call it a religion or a philosophy, what matters is, is the worldview defensible? I believe that my form of buddhism is defensible, and I would agree with you attacking the ones that aren't...

  • well there's a distinction btw religion and philosophy, but let's not get into it now -

    so long as u agree that superstition is bad, and should be criticized and uprooted wherever it's found. :)

    cheers

  • The distinction between superstition and philosophy is a modern one, western one, but details aside, I think we've reached a point where we both agree. :) cheers!

  • "the distinction between superstition and philosophy is a modern one, western one"

    very strongly disagree with this statement.

    cheers!

    :)

  • damn! I meant to write: "religion and philosophy" not "superstition and philosophy"... sorry about that...

  • still disagree -- though it sounds less ridiculous now :)

    btw, when i was making a distinction between buddhism the philosophy and buddhism the religion, i did not mean to imply that other religions lacked any philosophy -- indeed, we can discuss the philosophies of any given religion or set of belief systems.

    philosophy and religion are not mutually exclusive. did not mean to give the impression that i thought they were.

    ciao!

  • There is a modern distinction between religion and philosophy, I'm not disputing that, it would be irresponsible of me... but historically it's undeniable that in asia the distinction was not made until the opening up to western ideas.

  • Anyway, I don't think there is much else on what we disagree, so unles you have anyother objections, I shall thank you for the very interesting discussion. :) see ya

  • i have less problem with those who take the superstitions out of buddhism, but still, the philosophy of buddhism does not thrill me.

    there are other valid ways to approach physics/science.

    thanks for your efforts though, and if u could bang some sense into most buddhists who are superstitious, that would be appreciated :)

  • Read the book "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" for more elaborations on connections between Physics and Eastern Religions. Most significant similarities in thoughts of Eastern philosophies and Science are in Quantum Physics. Erwin Schrodinger who gave Schrodinger wave equation is believed to have read Vedanta(Upanishads). Robert Oppenheimer, the man behind N-bomb read Gita and learnt Sanskrit in 1933. Eastern faiths don't cross swords with Science ever.

  • coolness

  • That was excellent. Are there more?

    I was hoping he would say more about buddhism and astrophysics - looking for inspiration for my dissertation!

  • Hey thanks for commment. There arn't any more videos with the audio but you can download the rest of his lecture from the website I linked up in the info section! Hope you enjoy! :D

  • Cheers!

  • I love this guy.

  • This is good stuff. I will have to check out is other lectures as well.

  • Sweet! Very interesting talk. I've made videos like this one, too. I'll look up more from Alan Wallace.

  • religion wearing a new mask

  • Religion evolving...

  • Roberto, agreed! :D

  • Everett are you willing to entertain the idea that there at least might be some parallel?

  • Ah, I love youtube. =) Through it I have discovered Alan Watts, others, and now Wallace. Thank you =)

  • how do you get these videos onto your channel Gerald?

  • I'm using the latest mac, and iMovie. It takes a while to upload but they come out really nice :)

  • OK, Thanks.

  • I was wondering that, too. The flow of the images is much superior to the windows movie maker which I use.

  • Thank you for this and thank you for introducing me to Alan Wallace---I think my summer reading list is about to get a little bit longer.

  • Yes of course, no problem! I hope you can get around to all your reading, summers a great time to catch up! :)

  • Thanks for this. Wallace is always a treat.

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