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  • that's how that guy in iron eagle died! like omg's y'all!

  • Pilot stops the motor while approaching and of course if it is a planned engine fail and again of course pilots make the speed high according to normal approaching procedure !

    For example;Normal approach can be in 70 knots and 200 altitude in this stuation if pilot is having a real engine fail,he cant be that relax and land safely ! So in this kind of planned engine fail happens pilots make a air speed higher and then stop engine :-)

  • mixture is the fuel to air ratio of the engine and it must be adjusted based on different factors to keep the engine running smoothly.

  • Why is it necessary to adjust the mixture on final?

  • @transdrole set mixture to rich on downwind to ensure full power available in case of go around. If you have been flying at alititude you may have leaned the mixture during flight. It's a standard part of pre landing check.

  • @cryptiksouls yea thats why on my checkride the faa guy was slamming the checklist into my head i passes but he told me after it was over checklist checklist checklist. he said he wanted me to us it on base and final but thats a little much to do thats why i go over before i even enter downwind but then go over it again when im in the traffic pattern

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  • Typical. F/mix off.

  • What a dipstick

    

  • @39hd7h7h

    Afinal parece que é coisa de Brasuca...

  • two mistakes. your last one was prop hoizonal.

  • another video filmed with a potato

  • that's not an engine failure !!

  • Regaurdless it looked pretty good landing to me. Happy flying:)

  • well , you put the fuel mixture to zero , so thats why the plane turned off,, thats not engine failure... put it back again ,, and turn the plane on ;)

  • Well, the statistics show that most GA failures are pilot error, and this proves the numbers. You were fortunate to have had that happen while landing. If you were at altitude, you would have been in the shitter, possibly. Nice landing after all said and done. I would have been much more agitated for forgeting something so basic.

  • Very well handled.

  • heard of a before landing checklist?

    nice landing though!

  • Heres a way to look at it, its a way to cut rental cost lol

  • Very nice landing. If that was caused simply by the mixture setting then someone wasn't using their checklist. Memorizing is fine, but the checklist will never forget.

  • total BS. Next time you want to screw around take it up a couple thousand and do it.

  • 0:58 whats that turning

  • @swtrooper11 The engine?

  • @OmsoiTekken yes , why turned in the another direction

  • @swtrooper11 Crosswind.

  • I've seen some coincidences while flying (not)....

  • Attempting to re-start an engine right after it conks out is pretty much a useless exercise. Chances are something happened that will prevent it from starting. Just like automobiles that die when driving. Cranking it accomplishes nothing immediately after stalling.

  • @Garselo well if its at 5000ft over the ocean its worth a try! I think restart checks are part of the engine out procedure if time permits no?

  • other than the engine failing, that was a sick landing, real smooth.

  • Bravo!

  • Lucky

    

  • Should always turn off the engine before landing... saves fuel! :P

  • BRAVO!!

    

  • GUMPFS

  • We all are happy to see you are alive : - )

  • You made it, your buddy made it, the plane made it. What's the big deal? Bet you use your checklist next time. It's lesson learned. Keep flying!!!

  • @oldfart387 Exactly right. Gliders do it all the time. Back in the 1960s at the glider airport in Fremont, California, the super cub tow planes would tow the gliders to altitude and when the gliders detached the tow plane pilot would kill the engine and glide back to the airport. Routine. Saves fuel.

  • I'm confused. Did he leave the engine at full rich and it stalled from lack of air, or was he supposed to go full rich and didn't and it stalled from lack of fuel?

  • the worst time is when u are at the take of and climb then Zzzzzoooppppp enginge out...

    u glide and land safely that was good time for engine failure

  • lucky you weren't on downwind. Checklist checklist checklist. Glad you made it down safely.

  • @fultsp1 late downwind is probably the best place to have an engine failure, but i agree with you

  • who need a engine running on final ?

  • 2nd best possible place to be for the prop to cut out on you. The best, of course, being already on the ground.

  • yes, position the prop into the position that is most likely to result in a prop strike

  • @snoopyloopy Im not sure prop position is a concern except to be out of the sight line of the pilot. Just because the engine fails doesnt mean there's an increased risk of prop strike. Nothing was wrong with the gears or structure of the aircraft.

  • @cskog001 so using your logic, he should've left it in the position of 1:17, where it was horizontal and out of sight. but at 1:18, he goes ahead and switches it from horizontal to vertical. at that point, it is definitely in the line of sight and also at a decently increased risk of hitting the ground compared to the previous setting.

  • what airport is this? vashon mun?

  • @levygonz

    no, Levygonz, it is miles away from Seattle..

    Novo Hamburgo - OACI code SSNH, Brazil - South America.

    Just for your curiosity, it has a portuguese name's version of "New Hamburg".

    Thanks for asking me, because I've checked the photos using google, and they are very similar.

  • @adrianogazzo Thanks, dude. I know Novo Hamburgo - I'm Brazilian and my mother was born in Novo Hamburgo

  • @levygonz Now you have surprised me... Good to know.

    Are you living abroad?

  • @adrianogazzo I live In São Paulo, but I expect to visit NH

  • @levygonz Very good, pal. I will travel to NH in a few days. If you go there, go visit the Airclub, at "Canudos".

    Best wishes;

  • @adrianogazzo alright... Well, what plane is that? Looks like a piper or a pilatus...

  • @levygonz

    This an Experimental Homebuilt plane. It has an automotive engine, VW, two-seated, and received the code JC-01. It is very fine and still flying with more than 600 flight hours. The owner and also the builder, João Carlos, is very devoted and serious. In short, the plane is trustable - you only need to remember how to use its checklist..rsrsrs..

  • @adrianogazzo how did you guys build it????

  • what is mixture?

  • @swtrooper11 Hi, Trooper;

    The Mixture system works inside the Carburetor device, which provides an equalizing of air+Gas entrance(mixture) allowing the best option to burn the fuel inside the Enginer's Cylinder deppending on the altitude used. If the air gets into too much, the burning may stop. If the Gas is more than the needed, the engine will lose power.

  • @adrianogazzo Hi , thank u very much , and is this mixture is the same as feather-throttle in the two prop planes?

  • @swtrooper11 No, no, felow! First, let me understand your aim: Do you want to know more about how to pilot an Airplane? There are many things to explain. In that case, I suggest you using Google search... don't take wrong.

    completing your 2nd question:

    The Feather Prop is the possibility of change the Propeller's Blade angle. If the engine stops, and your aircraft has this option, you ought to feather the Propellers of your 'dead engine', in order to reduce the drag effect. Do you like FSX sim?

  • @adrianogazzo man man im like a real pilot , i can drive 737 and many other planes , i used to traing in a real full flight simulator , i know how to flight , but only on jets , but now im intererested in saab 2000 and i dont know how does turboprop works that why i asked. I play with fs2004 because my pc is old and FSX laggs so badly. And you?

  • @swtrooper11 Well... I am a real pilot, inspite the fact I was not flying on the footage this time, only recording. I am also an ATCO. Just for curiosity, I have started flying in FS98 in the end of the 90's... and had my real license in 2003. FS2004 has more advantages than FSX, believe in me. For fun, I have the both on my PC, which runs very well cause I've spent some money on it.

    Be careful about Turboprops, there is no "Mixture" system on them. It'd be useless because is not piston engine

  • @adrianogazzo Oh thanks.

  • PRELANDING CHECKS!

  • lucky boys

  • Remind me never to fly with these guys....

  • "Simulação de pane, foi intencional...olha lei de murphy"

    Ah, você entende de aviação? E que tal da Língua portuguesa e e expressá-la??

    Escute aqui, seu muleque. Agora você se enterrou, jogando terra para cima.

    Não é por eu ter dito que filmava, que disse que não era piloto, você mostra que não tem maturidade pre-julgando. Ou vai dizer que "não disse" que "foi intencional"(isso significa um FAKE de engine failure) !?

    Quem vc pensa que é para dizer que um erro merece cassação de brevê??

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  • @rodneialquati

    Ah, sei, VOCÊ nunca erra... humm... muito bem. Ou JULGA que foi proposital.. não tem jeito mesmo. 20 anos na aviação profissional, estou vendo mesmas histórias, novos CHT's...

    Façamos o seguinte, "Piloto", busque o significado de crítica, aprenda a assumir a forma TOSCA com a qual se expressa, MELHORE, evolua como pessoa que "pilota", e DEPOIS venha aqui e defina o que é crítica. Eu não refutei crítica alguma, hão houve alguma para tal. Você Cuspiu, sim, e para cima. Adeus

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  • @rodneialquati Prezado Rodnei,

    É cansativo para mim ficar respondendo a este tipo de "Achologia", pois é injusto o fato de você vir até aqui, assistir ao vídeo e cuspir uma falsa-afirmação(não se ofenda, foi o que você, com certa arrogância, FEZ), e eu não posso deixar por isso mesmo...

    Prefiro REPETIR(claro, vc vem fala o que quer, em tom de afirmativa, e nem lê comentários anteriores)

    EU ESTAVA LÁ, VC NÃO. Não foi fake, aconteceu, foi mancada do Piloto (eu estava filmando!!) e resolvi postar!

  • @adrianogazzo

    No fim das contas, muitos estão se atentando para o uso do CHECK-LIST, e a Segurança Operacional que está ganhando. Desculpe-me, novamente, mas você fez um comentário infeliz, fruto, provável, da crença própria de que você já sabe muito. Velho? Velho é quem parou de aprender. Há velhos de 15,25,30, 45 anos, etc. Ser jovem é viver aprendendo. Bom domingo a todos.

  • nice landing even though you were attempting to restart....multitasking nut!

    ~on an unrelated note someone below posted a comment that was one of my favorite aviation quotes and Id like to add my own...

    "its better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air rather than in the air wishing you were on the ground"

  • unfortunately sometimes this is how we pilots learn. I know hell check the mixture every time he enters the pattern till the day he dies now. But other than that, amazing!

  • BUMFFPICHH ;)

  • Simplemente usa la lista de chequeos y hagan un buen CRM

  • You did a great job.

    

  • Excellent piloting! 

  • Mistakes are how us humans learn. Funny how when u are taught something, it is easily forgotten but when u are put in the hot seat, you will never make that mistake again. The best pilots are those who crash landed and live to fly another day

  • Beautiful landing considering the situation

  • Why did you turn the prop to vertical and not leave it at horizontal ?

  • cool video

  • He should have tried to restart in the air. The procedure calls for restart if you can. He didn't. Aviate navigate communicate. He is lucky to be close to the run way. I give him credit for making the runway though. Bottom line good job.

  • @awadbab He did try to restart in the air.....

  • My only criticism here: if you can make the field, don't try to restart the engine. That is simply a distraction to the task at hand. There could've been a wind shear or a gust that would've required your attention. Other than that, you did a great deadstick landing!

  • @SenorSpode And you are totally right, buddy. That was what I told him (my friend who was flying the plane). He also agrees with what you've said.

    thank for your comment.

  • @SenorSpode

    Hey, your words were very nice, thanks. I really do agree with you. The pilot, my friend, was in a bad day - talking about follow simple procedures - as you may noticed.

  • @SenorSpode I agree, my simple creed "aviate, navigate, communicate" a pilots order of operations. 

  • @SenorSpode My thoughts exactly

  • @SenorSpode Or u can tell the PM to make restart procedures while the PF flies. As long as both are pilots....

  • @DreamVikings That is a good option. Personally, I'd just land it, secure the plane and inspect the engine to see why it quit. You can save an engine for a rebuild that way, if it comes to that.

  • God damm mixture noob... haha we all make mistakes, anyone who says they don't is simply a douchebag. Fly on boys and girls

  • For god's sake people! Cut the guy some slack. He made a MISTAKE. We. Are. HUMAN! We make mistakes! Yes, of course he was very fortunate that it happened on final, but stop crucifying him for a mistake that we ALL could make! Grow up!

  • @davidgeorge31 Pilots are not Human. I am a Pilot. We don't make Mistakes. When we make mistakes people die.

  • @LafreniereJ Of course it can be dangerous if we make a mistake, but to say "Pilots are not Human" is a profoundly unrealistic, exceptionally childish and NAIVE remark to make, especially when we are currently in a day and age where the potential to make a mistake is more evident than ever before, given the vast changes in aviation that challenge us more daily - AND the support network to ensure we don't make a mistake has HAD to be actioned in recognition that yes, due to HUMAN NATURE, Pilots

  • @LafreniereJ are far more likely to make mistakes that can be dangerous to themselves and other aircraft in more intense airspaces. Flying with you must be very dangerous - you clearly have an outlook on flying that fails to recognise your own limitations and THAT is where mistakes happen. You are extremely naive.

  • @LafreniereJ I understand your thought. Nonetheless, this kind of thought is the result of your reality. Is the full expression of the useless pressure you are taking to yourself while you are saying so.

    I am pilot, not the one who were flying in the footage, I was only using the camera BUT I would never say that. We all make mistakes. There is a proverb in aviation which says we start with two bags. One is full of Lucky while the other is empty of experience...(...)

  • @adrianogazzo Try to fill up the 2nd bag before the 1st one become empty.

  • BEST NOTAM EVER LOL!!!!

  • you now have 1 life left. dumb anus.

  • its pretty clear that you dont use a check list dumbass

  • engines are overrated anyway...

  • Yup - takes all of 5 seconds to do engine failure initial actions. Mixture Rich, Masters On, Mags on, Fuel on.

  • good job!

  • I was taught

    Fly the airplane

    Assess the problem

    Determine the solution

    Do it!

  • you lucky bastard

  • that was still a nice landing regardless.

  • That close to the runway, I don't think i would of bothered trying to restart it. 

  • @RobbieJ1982

    Correct. because it was a small airplane with two onboard thr isnt passenger comfort to think of.

    FOCUS ON FLYING IT AND FORGET ABOUT THE ENGINE

  • @georgetfeghali

    I was taught: Aviate. Navigate. Investigate. Communicate.

    In that situation I don't imagine you'd have time to do anything but fly the plane and maybe tell the tower you lost engine.

  • @RobbieJ1982 well its completely true what you said.

    and just like sokmunkee said, if its the copilot who is restarting the engine, you may go for it.

  • Unless the co-pilot is the one trying to get the engine started I would think focusing on flying the plane to a dead stop would be the smartest plan. Once you knew you could make the field, fiddling with the engine on final could result in a major flare over the threshhold and possible stall. FLY THE PLANE!!!

  • total mixture command

  • Pucker moment...

  • O avião permite.

  • all setup.......all planned.

  • Down - hot - rich - switch - switch

    Nose down, carb heat hot, mixture rich, switch fuel tank, fuel pump switch "on"

  • Good job. You flew the pattern at a safe altitude. Most of the timebuilder CFIs are teaching their students to drag it in so low that they wouldn't make the runway if it quit. I'll use your video as an example for my students.

  • @yusrah55 yessir youre totally right my father (CFI) has taught me to be in a good position to make the runway from downwind, when i see the patterns the instructors at my college are teaching everyone i see them teaching students 1.5 mile finals

  • GUMP ;-)

  • wow fuck you are LUCKY mate.

  • @sparkzulzzz: fire your flight instructor.

  • i laugh at people who think this is fake?? what moron would risk thier aircraft and/or life to fake this failure....pilots are mature unlike you-tubers.great video with a happy ending.

  • The way I see it, if the engine stalls on final approach, just focus on getting the plane on the ground. If you need to call a tow to get the plane off the runway, that's better than having crashed because you were trying to get it started back up.

  • my flight instructor pulled the mixture on downwind in our c152 and started smiling.. Told me this would prepare me for a real engine failure in the future.. was so freaking scary.. then he told another aircraft we ll hold short of the intersecting runway.. i had to go much slower and lower than id have liked jst to be able to hold short.. :P

  • fake

  • @beergut111 You're wrong, buddy. Grow up.

  • @adrianogazzo i am grown, and flown for the airlines for 30 years and this is fake.

  • @beergut111 You are old, which is a bit different. The time has been passed through your body's cells. To judge things only based on your age, without knowing the facts shows you had not wiseness added in your life. Sorry, but your suspicious mind that is really fake.

  • @adrianogazzo a piston engine dont just quit like that from too lean of mixture. You woulda had plenty of warning of an impending engine failure. This is wonderfly but very stupid dangerous staged clip.

    your apology is accepted.

  • @beergut111 Now I understood you more. You didn't read the comments before yours. This is NOT an ordinary Aeronautical Piston Engine. It is NOT a Lycomming, Continental, and so on. This mixture system works differently, sorry again, I am tired to retype everything.

    But I've liked you, mister, you also know how to keep the level. Thanks.

  • @beergut111 Actually, I had an engine failure almost identical to this, except that thankfully I was already on the ground and had just exited the runway. There was no roughness, it just puttered out as soon as I advanced the throttle to keep my speed up around the turn. I had left the mixture at cruise. It was a DA20-C1 with a Continental IO-240B3B. The newer fuel injected engines can run extremely smooth even very lean-of-peak.

  • Well, @ least the were on final and almost on the ground.

  • @TommyPlane14 Thanks Tommy, you're damm right!! People without knowing the facts try to play jokes with this engine failure, I am tired and sick of explain over&over again.

    Thanks for your support.

  • A good reason why to fly a tight pattern. Thank God that this didn't happen upwind or crosswind.

  • @chipjumper Chip, you are saying a very good thing, NEVER think you will have your engine working fine all the time. That why safety procedures are made of.

  • YOU DID GOOD, both you, and your friend are on the ground and well!!!

  • @wc4dblues Thanks, pal!

  • Thank God you were on final before this turned ugly!

  • @Physicspilot yeah, you've got it.

  • @adrianogazzo I have done this once in my life, never forgot again. Things happen

  • Landing with minor problems, thats okay and was a good landing.

    With a diesel engine you need not to enrich your fuel waste.

    Bad engine design has probably caused your malfunction.

    Sticking on unprofessional engine adjustments are common and not

    needet. That was not your fault.

  • @DieterMe Thank for your sensible way to communicate yor thoughts.

    Cheers

  • NOT buying it guys.. In my many years of flying I have never seen an engine go from running to dead in ~1000' from a bad mixture setting. It would usually run very poorly for thousands of feet decent before starving, not all at once like yours did.

    Nice for bullshitting the novices here but an epic fail for us old pros mate.

  • @texNoz Hi, Captain.

    Look, I've got your point and according to your knowledge, you're right. Nevertheless, your Knowledge here is not complete for you to "close" this subject. Let me explain to you a few things. This engine is a non-aeronautical one. It's an adaptation from V.W. Bettle's( "Fusca" on Brazil) no-radiator engine. Because of it, the "Mixture System" spoken here is not as similar as Lycoming, Continental, etc. In short, there is no bullshitting here, fella.

  • @adrianogazzo

    A simple trip across the US will subject your engine to approx 4,000' deviation in pressure altitude. According to you, a perfectly running VW in Los Angeles would be on the side of the road dead before it got out of the valley. A perfectly tuned VW in Denver would be dead before it got to Dallas. These are several thousand feet.. not 1000... THERE IS NO ENGINE MIXTURE THAT WILL GO FROM RUNNING SMOOTHLY TO DEAD IN 1000 FEET OF ALTITUDE! I don't care what motor you're running.

  • @texNoz We are almost understanding each other. Do you see? I am not the one who tunned that engine, I am only a friend of the owner, HE told me that the "FAKE mixture system" (do you get now?) is has been made only to let the air increase inside the carb in order to shut down the engine quick, on the ground of course. Now, I hope, you'll believe in me when I say: The Fake mix leaner was badly closed (by his mistake), as soon as he put the throtle in Idle to land, the engine turned off.

  • @adrianogazzo I really appreciate any thumbs for working but honestly, I was there, I cannot say anything for make anyone agree or not, the truth is: During the short final approach to land, the pilot (I was recording the land beside him) reduce the engine trust and it shut down, believe you or not. Take my respect for you, I am a serious man, Private pilot and also ATC, don't tell me I want to fool someone, I mean it. Regards.

  • @adrianogazzo I had an engine failure on base leg into a grass strip in Savanah, GA. It was probably icing but after that I never reduced power until I could make the airport if the engine quit. anyone who thinks this was faked is a moron.

  • @SewaneeTennessee

    HAHA how about carb heat??

    I think it's faked and I'm far from a moron. You re-read everything I've posted here and then make this statement again.. I'm going to rig an airplane and disprove this video once and for all. While I'm having a very hard time finding a vw or 1/2 vw engine, however, for mixture's sake, it won't make any difference. They are all the same being horizontal opposed, etc.. etc.. Even the ignition timing is probably very similar or the same.

  • @adrianogazzo

    You're pilot snuffed the engine by going lean on approach.. This is no new trick mate. It's just new that someone puts it on Youtube to as an "Engine Failure".

    Again I say.. Great for all the novices out there who have no clue, but you have no chance of convincing us folks in the know. I had a hangar full of engineers giving you a thumbs up on the trickery... For what that's worth..

    You can bullshit most of the people most of the time, but you'll never bullshit me mate.. XD

  • @texNoz Go smell yourself elsewhere. We can't bullshit you because you ARE bullshit. Now go lay in the yard and do what you do best: stink to High Heaven.

  • @SenorSpode

    And the dude even admitted it, if you were smart enough to read above. But you're not are ya Scroat? Because you don't appreciate my presentation you go off on a tirade spewing absolute garbage about a topic you know nothing about.

    Tell ya what Chode.. Next time I'm home in Port Angeles, we'll run up in an airplane and give it a go exactly as here on this video. When I'm right, which I will be, you can post a tribute video to the great American/Canadian/Australian.. ME..

  • Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Any landing that the plane can be used again is a great landing.

  • @Weefles You are very very right!! Thanks for your comment

  • @Weefles Any landing we can "walk away" from the plane is a crash landing. Any landing that the plane can be used again is a normal landing. A smooth or precise or short landing (when it's necessary) IS a great landing.

  • @Faucon551237 I'm sorry but ur wrong, that isn't how the saying goes

  • @WowyourecoolNOT2340 I'm wrong for you because it's depend on the opinion of people.

  • @Weefles oh i have never heard that before! {sarcasm}

  • @Weefles shut up

  • well handled

  • @youngestpilotinGa thanks

  • is this in brazil(or portugal, whichever you prefer)? i think i hear some portugese?

  • @DragracingX This fact happened in Brasil, yes, you've heard some portuguese's dialogue

  • @adrianogazzo nice nice im from brazil myself so i kinda recognized it

  • @DragracingX Cool! So do I. It happened in Novo Hamburgo Airclub

  • @adrianogazzo haha yea it is :P where about is that?

  • @DragracingX

    Brazilians speak Portuguese.

  • @Sting3733 what is this comment about again? i do know brazilians speak Portuguese.. so do people from Portugal. the dialect is just different

  • funny