No snozzle's on the ARFF trucks... that's a shame as they are specifically for getting water in and on the fire coming threw the top (technically the bottom since the plane flipped).
Both pilots were killed. MD 11 does not handle like a DC 10. Pilot induced oscillations are a real problem. The people that dreamed up this conversion and certified it as airworthy should spend the rest of their lives in prison.
Just that crash happened to wrong persons.But they died as they were.Brave and great pilots , just everyone has mistakes but this wasent. R.I.P From Estonia.
@bethpage89 There was probably nothing "visually" unusual about the approach just the rate of decent upon impacting the runway possibly due to windshear that's maybe why they cut it. It was their rate of decent that caused the secondary bounce. RIP all involved.
@Maeousie have some respect for those who lost their lives! what would you like people to write if you were on that aircraft? their families and friends might read these comments, enough said!
apparently on the MD-11's and DC-10's, there is a design flaw in which the aircraft will roll to one side, like in the video, after a hard impact with the runway.
Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect. By Captain A. G. Lamplugh
God bless all our Bothers that pass on to the great Beyond
Most of the comments here are really stupid. Armchair FSX pilots should leave the analysis to actual pilots who fly these machines. Also a bounce recovery on a MD-11 is a whole lot different then a cessna.
I am puzzled but this as well. I wonder if they hit a down draft or wind sheer or may maybe an unusually strong gust at the last minute at their current AoA or could they have entered the wrong landing weight on the MCDU causing the aircraft to touch down harder then expected? My condolences to the families.
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i really hope you guys arent actual pilots because an I.L.S. approach will bring you down to 200 a.g.l. There is no help under that. The whole crash was pilot error. nothing else. the airport was most likely reporting wind shear and the dumbasses didnt take that into account. some poor chinky eyed bastards didnt get their mail because of pilot error. i really hope that i dont fly with you. thankyou, goodnight america
That's a very vague statement. Unless you have a direct headwind (or even a tailwind), you are, to some extent, going to have a crosswind component. Are you suggesting that every pilot should use ILS whenever it is available?
I am an airline pilot working for Tarom and I can tell you that the captain was a little bit unaware of the wind shear...only an incredible quick reaction could save them
if you press the to/ga switch, the only purpose that would be useful for if you were taking off, that's why it's called the takeoff/go around switch! And if you were to bounce twice, pushing the throttles forward would only make the situation worse. Plus, the pilots were doing their best not to crash, nobody in their right mind would purposely push the nose down with the intention of crashing it.
@ie210 In an airport like Tokyo...it is impossible not to have radars installed for windshear and in this situation the airplane must be flown on approach at a little higher speed.I`ve done this situation many times in the simulator, the aircraft wouldn`t have to bounce like this.Anyway...in this case, everyday routine has marked the speed of the pilot`s reaction in a very bad direction.
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Every time I see this sad video it makes me think of how Obama is flying this country into the ground. We're gonna end up just like this plane did. Crash and burn.
Only a redumblican would piss on the graves of two pilots to support their own agenda. Obviously your brother and sister did have a kid that lived because you are living proof. By the way asshole...who created this disaster of a deficit?? Bush!!! Along with the over 4200 GI's he killed for his agenda. Now go give the computer back to your daddy so that adults can have real conversations about the tragic events of the video and not your lack of brain cells.
pklute you must sniff before you flush. Bush didn't create a budget that is $3.7 trillion beyond what we can afford. Compare the budgets shit for brains. Obama's first budget runs a deficit of 4 times the entire deficit created by Bush. You Obama sheep are absolute fucktards looking for a cause. Go save a fucking polar bear you dip shit.
will you people SHUT UP! who cares! This is a sad video about 2 innocent people losing their lives and you and pklute63 decide to talk about nonsense called politics debating over something that has nothing to do with this crash! How insensitive! It's like taking about terrorists at a funeral.
after you become an officer then you get to go to flight school assuming you pass the flight aptitude test and flight medical screening. so yea im sure everyone can do the math. You will be about 27 28 before you even make it to active flight status. God bless this crew whether or not it was there fault and bless there families.
But like I said those are my personal opinions. Let the investigation show the cause. And not to bash anybody but i highly doubt at 23 you can be a navy pilot. I may be a Sgt in the army but i know people in the navy and that to become a naval aviator you must be between 19-26 to even be considered to become a pilot. Then factor in time to get your degree (about 4 years) to even be an officer.
If anything it kinda looks like the pilots may have touched down way to hard and tried to do a go around. Maybe when they touched the plane was damaged or they tried to go to go around power but it takes time for those engines to spool up.
So many arm chair pilots out there. This accident could have been cause by a number of factors, wrong flap settings, engine issues, sudden change in wind to name a few. The closest I have come to flying a commercial jet is flight sim so i dont try and pretend I know everything about jets but i do hold a private pilots license and have a few hours under my belt and have flown in some challenging weather.
agreed with CRFRidaFaLife...I'm a navy pilot, this wasnt wind shear, at least not directly, the pilot made a pilot error, you cant porpois an a/c and then try and dump the nose to recover or you will have a mishap
The direction of the smoke was in the opposite way it landed, look closely. So they landed with the wind. It looked like there may have been a cross wind as well. Windshear may have played a role, but it also looks like the pilot may just had not had enough experience with winds like that. Also it looks like a classic porpoised, so he should have attempted a go around.
Just saw this on tv..........it seems to land way too fast..........I wonder if it accidently landed WITH the wind instead of into it. Apparently the wind was very strong.
Possibly...........hard to believe the ATC's would have made a mistake like that...........windshear is the obvious culprit..........that, and some pilots have complained that the MD-11 is hard to control in high winds.........one said it was like "balancing on a basket ball".
DAMNIT WILSON, I TOLD YOU NOT TO PUT THE FIRECRACKER SHIPMENT NEXT TO THE BOX OF LIGHTERS!
Scitech101 4 months ago
I *knew* I shouldn't have shipped that two-ton box of fishing sinkers by Fed-ex!"
McGrottomaster 4 months ago
見事にひ
AccountTKO 6 months ago
見事にひっくり返った。
gvdfgvdfgvzfx 6 months ago
God damnit so that's why I didn't get my package
Zipito06 7 months ago
tokyoじゃなくてchibaですよー。
tokyo not chiba
qazwsxeedc0852 7 months ago
R.I.P to the Crew of that FedEx MD-11
mainscoop250 7 months ago 2
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the pilot was drunk
IKbenveli 8 months ago
Damn! That plane got some air!
breathetampa 9 months ago
No snozzle's on the ARFF trucks... that's a shame as they are specifically for getting water in and on the fire coming threw the top (technically the bottom since the plane flipped).
mathiastheok 9 months ago
Both pilots were killed. MD 11 does not handle like a DC 10. Pilot induced oscillations are a real problem. The people that dreamed up this conversion and certified it as airworthy should spend the rest of their lives in prison.
menthol5 9 months ago
Just that crash happened to wrong persons.But they died as they were.Brave and great pilots , just everyone has mistakes but this wasent. R.I.P From Estonia.
TheThomasTT 10 months ago
The final seconds of the approach to landing were edited out. Why?
bethpage89 10 months ago
@bethpage89 There was probably nothing "visually" unusual about the approach just the rate of decent upon impacting the runway possibly due to windshear that's maybe why they cut it. It was their rate of decent that caused the secondary bounce. RIP all involved.
BlueLineSpeed 8 months ago
lot more lives would be lost if it was a passenger jet
heywatchme101 11 months ago
@heywatchme101 no shit
kev6848 10 months ago 4
they think that the plane with the fedex sign on it MIGHT have been owned by fedex wow who woulda thought
legomastr1 1 year ago
My sex toys were on this flight.
:-/
Maeousie 1 year ago
@Maeousie have some respect for those who lost their lives! what would you like people to write if you were on that aircraft? their families and friends might read these comments, enough said!
BlueLineSpeed 8 months ago
apparently on the MD-11's and DC-10's, there is a design flaw in which the aircraft will roll to one side, like in the video, after a hard impact with the runway.
itachiuchiha026 1 year ago
@itachiuchiha026 yeah i think it was the back wings were too small right?
XDrifter2 1 year ago
@XDrifter2 back wings? you mean horizontal stabilizer? actually, i dont know the exact cause of the flaw
itachiuchiha026 1 year ago
@itachiuchiha026 of coarse... fox interviewed a veterand pilot and he said something about it being to small
XDrifter2 1 year ago
@XDrifter2 hmm, that is interesting how that could have been missed when they designed the plane...
itachiuchiha026 1 year ago
@itachiuchiha026 thats what i thought
XDrifter2 1 year ago
Hw did he crash?
southwest1998 1 year ago
wen was this????????????????
guzzo4598 1 year ago
rip
polak4lyf 1 year ago
Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect. By Captain A. G. Lamplugh
God bless all our Bothers that pass on to the great Beyond
win288 1 year ago
Most of the comments here are really stupid. Armchair FSX pilots should leave the analysis to actual pilots who fly these machines. Also a bounce recovery on a MD-11 is a whole lot different then a cessna.
RVR60000 1 year ago
it bounches 3 times not 2
birgir94 1 year ago
WTH was that!!!!!!!!!!??????????
jorgemdllin 2 years ago
As it was a cargo plane, maybe some heavy cargo items got loose and the CG was seriously affected.
rva1945 2 years ago
I am puzzled but this as well. I wonder if they hit a down draft or wind sheer or may maybe an unusually strong gust at the last minute at their current AoA or could they have entered the wrong landing weight on the MCDU causing the aircraft to touch down harder then expected? My condolences to the families.
intercepter1 2 years ago
R.I.P.
Dschedsche 2 years ago
Something wrong here...Fed Ex guys don't make simple mistakes like this..
dergrossen 2 years ago 4
Gotta love the youtube experts who have more flying time in heavy aircraft than both of these pilots who were very senior.
Garinb747 2 years ago 61
What? FSX doe not count? LoL
jsb4life 2 years ago
Your comment is just... great, +1 for you, God bless them...
hmizou93100 2 years ago
Condolences to the pilot and their family..
lingsy81 2 years ago 5
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what a tragic day for those who lost their parcels !! that must have sucked. I wonder if fedex refunded every client who had a parcel aboard.
randomvidz94 2 years ago
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i really hope you guys arent actual pilots because an I.L.S. approach will bring you down to 200 a.g.l. There is no help under that. The whole crash was pilot error. nothing else. the airport was most likely reporting wind shear and the dumbasses didnt take that into account. some poor chinky eyed bastards didnt get their mail because of pilot error. i really hope that i dont fly with you. thankyou, goodnight america
bennydagimp66 2 years ago
i do agree with u..but i think it's because of wind shear or downdraft..
adypilot89 2 years ago 2
is it a good idea to do an ils landing when there are crosswinds
leviathan94xxx 2 years ago
That's a very vague statement. Unless you have a direct headwind (or even a tailwind), you are, to some extent, going to have a crosswind component. Are you suggesting that every pilot should use ILS whenever it is available?
mikey0118 2 years ago
I am an airline pilot working for Tarom and I can tell you that the captain was a little bit unaware of the wind shear...only an incredible quick reaction could save them
mirceaneacsu2004 2 years ago
definitely their fault, never ever nose down in a situation like this..hands on the throttles,toga switch and execute an missed approach
mirceaneacsu2004 2 years ago
@mirceaneacsu2004
if you press the to/ga switch, the only purpose that would be useful for if you were taking off, that's why it's called the takeoff/go around switch! And if you were to bounce twice, pushing the throttles forward would only make the situation worse. Plus, the pilots were doing their best not to crash, nobody in their right mind would purposely push the nose down with the intention of crashing it.
ie210 1 year ago
@ie210 In an airport like Tokyo...it is impossible not to have radars installed for windshear and in this situation the airplane must be flown on approach at a little higher speed.I`ve done this situation many times in the simulator, the aircraft wouldn`t have to bounce like this.Anyway...in this case, everyday routine has marked the speed of the pilot`s reaction in a very bad direction.
mirceaneacsu2004 1 year ago
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FedEx blows.. GO DHL!!!!
kissmyfeetnab 2 years ago
You, are a complete faggot.
Joshpilot1234 2 years ago 4
If you had ever flown an aircraft in wind shear you would understand that it wasnt completely the pilot's fault, and that the pilots died.
You selfish inconsiderate twat
MrJonLees 2 years ago 32
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FedEx = Death
airportvictim 2 years ago
+100000!
kissmyfeetnab 2 years ago
why didn't they flare?
trechan 2 years ago
3 bounces... not 2
totoni2000 2 years ago
My package was on this flight : (
panictactics 2 years ago
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A tail strike followed by pilot induced oscillation resulting in a stall
ChugachAviator 2 years ago
Idiot.
panictactics 2 years ago 2
your insult has ruined my day you have such power with words
ChugachAviator 2 years ago
Good on you, geezer.
panictactics 2 years ago
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jetfighter2011 2 years ago
Damn, Air france, Fedex, Turkish, Colgan, and US Airways. It must be a sign
FLIGHTCOMPANY 2 years ago
it looks like it was hit by a down draft
jato127fsxexpert 2 years ago
thats fedex for ya.
doogrisa 2 years ago
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Every time I see this sad video it makes me think of how Obama is flying this country into the ground. We're gonna end up just like this plane did. Crash and burn.
milehigh587 2 years ago
As dumb as you are, how is it possible your brain keeps your heart beating?
pklute63 2 years ago
Typical idiot demoncrat. You love tax and spend and $3.7 trillion deficits don't you. Did your mother have any kids that lived? What a fucktard!
milehigh587 2 years ago
Only a redumblican would piss on the graves of two pilots to support their own agenda. Obviously your brother and sister did have a kid that lived because you are living proof. By the way asshole...who created this disaster of a deficit?? Bush!!! Along with the over 4200 GI's he killed for his agenda. Now go give the computer back to your daddy so that adults can have real conversations about the tragic events of the video and not your lack of brain cells.
pklute63 2 years ago
pklute you must sniff before you flush. Bush didn't create a budget that is $3.7 trillion beyond what we can afford. Compare the budgets shit for brains. Obama's first budget runs a deficit of 4 times the entire deficit created by Bush. You Obama sheep are absolute fucktards looking for a cause. Go save a fucking polar bear you dip shit.
milehigh587 2 years ago
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why whould you sniff befor you flush dumb ass just flush only fags sniff there own shit
994302003 2 years ago
@milehigh587
will you people SHUT UP! who cares! This is a sad video about 2 innocent people losing their lives and you and pklute63 decide to talk about nonsense called politics debating over something that has nothing to do with this crash! How insensitive! It's like taking about terrorists at a funeral.
ie210 1 year ago
horrible...
porkypker27 2 years ago
after you become an officer then you get to go to flight school assuming you pass the flight aptitude test and flight medical screening. so yea im sure everyone can do the math. You will be about 27 28 before you even make it to active flight status. God bless this crew whether or not it was there fault and bless there families.
trooper1822 2 years ago
God bless you trooper1822
cubes887 2 years ago
But like I said those are my personal opinions. Let the investigation show the cause. And not to bash anybody but i highly doubt at 23 you can be a navy pilot. I may be a Sgt in the army but i know people in the navy and that to become a naval aviator you must be between 19-26 to even be considered to become a pilot. Then factor in time to get your degree (about 4 years) to even be an officer.
trooper1822 2 years ago
If anything it kinda looks like the pilots may have touched down way to hard and tried to do a go around. Maybe when they touched the plane was damaged or they tried to go to go around power but it takes time for those engines to spool up.
trooper1822 2 years ago
So many arm chair pilots out there. This accident could have been cause by a number of factors, wrong flap settings, engine issues, sudden change in wind to name a few. The closest I have come to flying a commercial jet is flight sim so i dont try and pretend I know everything about jets but i do hold a private pilots license and have a few hours under my belt and have flown in some challenging weather.
trooper1822 2 years ago
agreed with CRFRidaFaLife...I'm a navy pilot, this wasnt wind shear, at least not directly, the pilot made a pilot error, you cant porpois an a/c and then try and dump the nose to recover or you will have a mishap
navycrewboy 2 years ago
very sad r.i.p. to all thoses who lost there lifes
AircraftBoy08 2 years ago
The direction of the smoke was in the opposite way it landed, look closely. So they landed with the wind. It looked like there may have been a cross wind as well. Windshear may have played a role, but it also looks like the pilot may just had not had enough experience with winds like that. Also it looks like a classic porpoised, so he should have attempted a go around.
PaintballRules18 2 years ago
this is the 8th plane crash this year. theres two many going down!!!!!!!!!!
dag0620 2 years ago 2
yea i was studing to be a pilot but i stopped now after all of these crashes
ramal90421 2 years ago
pussy.
CRFRidaFaLife 2 years ago 2
damn! no wonder my package is taking so long to get here! hahaha
kaymanclark 2 years ago
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do u guys like have so much dirt on your balls that u can't seem to get rid of?
cerrutiboy 2 years ago
you jackass's..go back and watch barney since your too uneducated to speak from any area of expertise on aviation dousche bag
ericbrom 2 years ago
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it wasn't landing, it was taking off.
DiegoVazquezMiranda 2 years ago
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it was landing noob
HBSfromMsia 2 years ago
Just saw this on tv..........it seems to land way too fast..........I wonder if it accidently landed WITH the wind instead of into it. Apparently the wind was very strong.
stegaflaps 2 years ago
you can tell it didnt because of the direction of the smoke after i crashes...
172drvr 2 years ago 2
The Air Traffic Controllers pick which runways are in use based upon the winds.....so they would have been landing into the wind....Wind shear?
trickless 2 years ago
Possibly...........hard to believe the ATC's would have made a mistake like that...........windshear is the obvious culprit..........that, and some pilots have complained that the MD-11 is hard to control in high winds.........one said it was like "balancing on a basket ball".
stegaflaps 2 years ago
Yeah. And now we have seen how it looks like. Wind shear the most probable reason to justify this incident.
Sad that people have lost their lives in just seconds. We sympathise with the aggrieved families.
condor786 2 years ago