Why is it that some people want wrestlers to do moves that they cannot perform safely? It makes little sense. As you get older, your body is worn down. What makes people think that a 30 year old can do the same things that he did when he was 18?
i dont get why everyone thinks that its the wwe that wont allow the moves. ya they dont allow some moves (like pile drivers and chair shots to the head) but its mainly the wrestler that doesnt want to do the move any more because it hurts them or they are to old to do it as safely as they used to.
@RoSs3897 It's not just safety. WWE has an 'image' they need to cultivate for their wrestlers, and they feel that some moves need to be reserved for particular wrestlers.
For instance, Danny Doring tells a story about him and Roadkill during tryouts for the WWE, and they paid an homage to the Hart Foundation by doing the "Hart Attack" tag team finish (a move that hadn't been used in the WWE for over a decade). When they came back to the locker room, the WWE flipped out because of that.
@hehehe88 We all know that, but there is a belief that WWE writers don't watch other Wrestling programs, and are "locked" into the idea. As Doring pointed out, no one had used the Hart Attack in over a decade, yet the WWE flipped out when more modern wrestlers used the move.
It's just their twisted way of thinking over there, and more importantly, why wrestling as an industry is in the state it is now.
@DevilTakeMe: Doring and Roadkill had used it in the old ECW, calling it the Lancaster Lariat of Lust. Haas and Benjamin use it in ROH where the announcers call it "Wrestling's Greatest Finisher."
@JKTube Yep. In this case, the Blockbuster was a move that Buff Bagwell had used, and it's kind of hard to say whether Punk would be asked not to use it.
@DevilTakeMe: Actually, I don't think WWE would have a problem with someone using Buffy the Workrate Slayer's move. Hurricane used it for a time and I remember the announcers calling it the Overcast. In 2001 Bagwell and Helms got into a real life fight at WWE's training center. Helms came out of it without a scratch and Buffy needed medical attention. Then he put on that terrible performance on Raw and Austin and Angle threw him out of the arena. Buh-bye. :P
@JKTube Then again, it -was- WWE-owned WCW at that time, there was some crossover at that time. Circumstances at that juncture were different. The Rock and the Rock Bottom on one hand, Booker T and the Book End on the other. Same move.
@DevilTakeMe: The difference was that WCW tried to turn Booker T. INTO the Rock after Booker T. defeated Jarrett for the first of his five WCW World Heavyweight Championships.
@JKTube Which makes -that- different because he was already using it in WCW, and the WWF paid for those entertainers to come to the WWF with those gimmicks and styles.
@SCARFACE40214 I do want to point out to other people. Remember early to mid 2011? Reports of CM Punk having knee and hip troubles? I wonder what kind of moves could aggravate injuries in those areas. Certainly nothing that results in you landing on your knees or hips from 5+ feet in the air.
@TheSuicidalDragon A few years ago I read in an interview that Punk suffered a skull fracture in a match, when he was applying a neckbreaker. Maybe this is the footage. If that's the case, I totally undestand why he took this move out of his arsenal.
@ZeroNBK That but there was also one he did and it botched pretty bad. I don't think he hurt himself. But I think he realized it was probably too much and not worth it lol
@ZeroNBK Yeah, I don't know if THIS is that footage, but he had someone land on his face after this move and fractured his skull from it. I guess he stopped using the corkscrew blockbuster after. I wouldn't blame him. Hayabusa botched a Shooting Star Press once and broke his neck. He stopped using the move after that...well, until the botched Lionsault that ended his career.
@DarkAero94 i like what he's been doing in wwe right now in a recent match with cena he did the complete shot into the koji clutch like a little ode to christopher daniels i thought it was pretty cool
No wonder he stopped using this move. He fractured his skull and was out of action for 3 months.
Moredread25 2 weeks ago
Why is it that some people want wrestlers to do moves that they cannot perform safely? It makes little sense. As you get older, your body is worn down. What makes people think that a 30 year old can do the same things that he did when he was 18?
delacroixwalrus 3 weeks ago 2
@delacroixwalrus But.......but......like, Pepsi Plunge and shizz man! The WWE is totally holding Punk back! Lulz these friggin WWE noobs!
(A response you'll probably get due to your intelligent comment).
SCARFACE40214 3 weeks ago
@SCARFACE40214 i know right
i dont get why everyone thinks that its the wwe that wont allow the moves. ya they dont allow some moves (like pile drivers and chair shots to the head) but its mainly the wrestler that doesnt want to do the move any more because it hurts them or they are to old to do it as safely as they used to.
RoSs3897 3 weeks ago
@RoSs3897 It's not just safety. WWE has an 'image' they need to cultivate for their wrestlers, and they feel that some moves need to be reserved for particular wrestlers.
For instance, Danny Doring tells a story about him and Roadkill during tryouts for the WWE, and they paid an homage to the Hart Foundation by doing the "Hart Attack" tag team finish (a move that hadn't been used in the WWE for over a decade). When they came back to the locker room, the WWE flipped out because of that.
DevilTakeMe 3 weeks ago
@DevilTakeMe i was going to touch on that but i didnt was in a hurry so i didnt.
RoSs3897 3 weeks ago
@DevilTakeMe No one has seen the true Hart Attack, in ages, and I doubt that the Hart Foundation is coming back, even spiritually.
Tradition is one thing, but they've made worse decisions in the guise of "entertainment".
hehehe88 3 weeks ago
@hehehe88 We all know that, but there is a belief that WWE writers don't watch other Wrestling programs, and are "locked" into the idea. As Doring pointed out, no one had used the Hart Attack in over a decade, yet the WWE flipped out when more modern wrestlers used the move.
It's just their twisted way of thinking over there, and more importantly, why wrestling as an industry is in the state it is now.
DevilTakeMe 3 weeks ago
@DevilTakeMe They really do need a grand exodus to pull their collective head out of there asses.
hehehe88 3 weeks ago
@DevilTakeMe: Doring and Roadkill had used it in the old ECW, calling it the Lancaster Lariat of Lust. Haas and Benjamin use it in ROH where the announcers call it "Wrestling's Greatest Finisher."
JKTube 3 weeks ago
@JKTube Yep. In this case, the Blockbuster was a move that Buff Bagwell had used, and it's kind of hard to say whether Punk would be asked not to use it.
DevilTakeMe 3 weeks ago
@DevilTakeMe: Actually, I don't think WWE would have a problem with someone using Buffy the Workrate Slayer's move. Hurricane used it for a time and I remember the announcers calling it the Overcast. In 2001 Bagwell and Helms got into a real life fight at WWE's training center. Helms came out of it without a scratch and Buffy needed medical attention. Then he put on that terrible performance on Raw and Austin and Angle threw him out of the arena. Buh-bye. :P
JKTube 3 weeks ago
@JKTube Then again, it -was- WWE-owned WCW at that time, there was some crossover at that time. Circumstances at that juncture were different. The Rock and the Rock Bottom on one hand, Booker T and the Book End on the other. Same move.
DevilTakeMe 3 weeks ago
@DevilTakeMe: The difference was that WCW tried to turn Booker T. INTO the Rock after Booker T. defeated Jarrett for the first of his five WCW World Heavyweight Championships.
JKTube 3 weeks ago
@JKTube Which makes -that- different because he was already using it in WCW, and the WWF paid for those entertainers to come to the WWF with those gimmicks and styles.
DevilTakeMe 3 weeks ago
@SCARFACE40214 I do want to point out to other people. Remember early to mid 2011? Reports of CM Punk having knee and hip troubles? I wonder what kind of moves could aggravate injuries in those areas. Certainly nothing that results in you landing on your knees or hips from 5+ feet in the air.
delacroixwalrus 3 weeks ago
@TheSuicidalDragon A few years ago I read in an interview that Punk suffered a skull fracture in a match, when he was applying a neckbreaker. Maybe this is the footage. If that's the case, I totally undestand why he took this move out of his arsenal.
ZeroNBK 3 weeks ago
@ZeroNBK That but there was also one he did and it botched pretty bad. I don't think he hurt himself. But I think he realized it was probably too much and not worth it lol
Drjklv2 3 weeks ago
@ZeroNBK Yeah, I don't know if THIS is that footage, but he had someone land on his face after this move and fractured his skull from it. I guess he stopped using the corkscrew blockbuster after. I wouldn't blame him. Hayabusa botched a Shooting Star Press once and broke his neck. He stopped using the move after that...well, until the botched Lionsault that ended his career.
lucheloco420 3 weeks ago
The skull fracture occurred in a match against Reckless Youth, about a month after this one, if memory serves me correctly.
TheSuicidalDragon 3 weeks ago
I'm actually not a fan of this particular clip. Hero lands right on Punk's face, and it looks damn painful.
ThunderFilez 3 weeks ago
@ThunderFilez I believe that fractured Punk's skull.
MVPoftheIWC 3 weeks ago
Punk should start using his Indy or ECW moves more
DarkAero94 3 weeks ago 2
@DarkAero94 i like what he's been doing in wwe right now in a recent match with cena he did the complete shot into the koji clutch like a little ode to christopher daniels i thought it was pretty cool
MsJesusgod 3 weeks ago