it's kitschy so what!? i was thinking the same, now we cant sing like this and it sometimes misses the fun of it. And this is such a poor opera. And we cant sing with the glissando's, from too much to nothing, well the italian is very wrong ahah.
Great voice, a real legend. Please if you have the time take a look at my take on this. It is a great song and I hope I did it justice, /watch?v=BgbDA_GR5EU , thanks.
Such enormous sadness to the end of this magnificent singer- we must never forget and seek out such fear and ignorance and destroy it each time it rears its head- thank you for this- Charles
When I was 5yrs old, I was privileged to listen to two men. Louis Armstrong and Joseph Schmidt. Both have stayed in my heart forever. Both bring tears of joy whenever I hear them.
Now, strange as it might seem, I believe rap star Eminem was influenced by Joseph Schmidt's Lacrima. There are certain nuances in Eminem's "Cleaning Out My Closet" that are so close to Joseph's Lacrima that make me weep when I listen to both of them.
Yes, I believe it was a heart attack and I think he was only forty-two. I didn't know he could have applied for asylum in 1937. If only he'd done that, things might have been different, at least for him if not for the others.
@HallucinationLiz He was, in my opinion (it's always a matter of opinion, isn't it?) overall not better than Caruso. But in some respects he was ! He had an easy high register, sailing up even to a high D. Caruso had other qualities. The empathy and feeling expressed by Caruso in his 1904 (poor...) recording of Una furtiva lagrima has (in my opinion) to this day never been surpassed in this aria. I've uploaded several versions of it.
@tomfroekjaer Nobody I've heard comes close to Caruso on this aria. I think this is a rather bizarre performance of what is supposed to be done in a good, old fashioned 'bel canto' style, to tell you the truth. Playing tonsil hockey near the end of a beautifully constructed aria like this is NOT recommended! Bad taste!
Personally I greatly prefer Joseph Schmidt's voice with its thrilling high notes and almost gymnastic runs and trills, to Richard Tauber's clipped high notes and frequent falsetto.
I heard an interesting comment from my mum recently. I say the two best singers ever to come out of Germany are this man and Richard Tauber. My mum says "Joseph Schmidt is the poor man's Richard Tauber."
@subicbrat That's the problem with your assessment. You're not an Opera fan. This is a serious aria, not an exercise for tonsils. I'm not knocking Schmidt's ability. I'm knocking his poor taste.
His studio recording of course was sung as written without the high B flat ending and sung somewhat differently then this one for the film. He was a fine artist.
Great Voice and great high notes and the greatest Cadenza of any tenor I ever heard. His live La Donna E Mobile has the cadenza at the end that is amazing!
Some liberties were taken but when the voice and musicianship is of this amazing standard, it is allowed. The man died at the hands of the NAZIs over 65 years ago yet he made such an impact that he is still being heard, studied, and loved in the new milenniium.
He passes my personal 'tear test' ..........I can't type coz I'm weeping at the sheer beauty...................................J. Christ help us all in this awful stark world of terrorism & deceit; gimme a mountain, a bunch of grapes, a sweet innocent maiden to represent ALL mankind's potential GOOD within this WONDERFUL world PLUS GREAT TENOR Voices to focus us on where we COULD go IF we all had more beauty in our miserable souls. STOP.
Wow, he looks really bizarre at the end there...as if he's using his tongue to create the trill, which doesn't even seem possible. Obviously whatever he's doing is working...this is a fantastic rendition. Still, it's really weird to watch, especially his tongue, throughout the entire thing. If you're a singer, check that out, you'll be as confused as I am.
@RandomZydeco I am always getting into trouble from my teacher for not keeping my tongue against my bottom teeth to create the space to create the required sound. In this clip and other clips Scmidt does the exact opposite! Also for certain words his diction is awful. e.g. "I miei sospir, confondere" he sings something like "i miei hohir" and other such mistakes. That said it still sounds wonderful.
@IrishTenor1982 Look closer...his tongue stays on his teeth except when he makes consonants such as "l" and "n". He makes these correctly using the tongue, not the jaw. With regard to "I miei sospir" he's minimalizing the "s" and using his tongue almost in a lisping way. Corelli did much the same thing.
@MrPrimotenore I'm afraid i really don't see what you are seeing. While he is certainly in overall control, his tongue seems to move quite independently it would appear. Almost like he remembers, then forgets for an instant and remembers again! He sounds great but it is perhaps the romanian/german school which is producing this effect. Wonderful to hear but not to look at. I never saw Corelli do this.
@IrishTenor1982 That's cool. It's hard to tell from old video where the audio may not be perfectly in sync anyway. The only way to know for sure was to have seen him up close and personal. He may have done something odd with his tongue, as Domingo does, and he has certainly gotten by ok. ;) As for Corelli, I studies with him for a while. I not only saw & heard him do it live, but he demonstrated it in lessons, & have heard it on many recordings. It's not a big loud thing, very subtle.
@IrishTenor1982 That's cool. It's hard to tell from old video where the audio may not be perfectly in sync anyway. The only way to know for sure was to have seen him up close and personal. He may have done something odd with his tongue, as Domingo does, and he has certainly gotten by ok. ;) As for Corelli, I studied with him for a while. I not only saw & heard him do it live, but he demonstrated it in lessons, & have heard it on many recordings. It's not a big loud thing, very subtle.
@RandomZydeco I am always getting into trouble from my teacher for not keeping my tongue against my bottom teeth to create the space to create the required sound. In this clip and other clips Scmidt does the exact opposite! Also for certain words his diction is awful. e.g. "I miei sospir, confondere" he sings something like "i miei hohir" and other such mistakes. That said it still sounds wonderful.
One of the most genius and brilliant singers..victim of the terror of the psychopath Hitler..let us always remember him as we will never remember the psycyopath Hitler(only as an insane killer) . We will always remember Joseph Schmidt as an example how healthy and talented people will be remembered...Joseph you will ever be loved !
CHE PENA QUESTA INTERPRETAZIONE ! VOCE INTERESSANTE MA USATA MALISSIMO, DIZIONE E PRONUNCIA OSCENE, STILE E GUSTO PARI A ZERO. COME SI PUO' ELOGIARE UN CANTANTE DEL GENERE, CHE MOLTO PROBABILMENTE NON SI RENDE NEMMENO CONTO DI QUELLO CHE STA CANTANDO ?
Très convaincant musicalement et vocalement.Bien sûr un italien fremit d'entendre sa langue ainsi amputée mais Corelli aussi chuintait étrangement parfois et n'avais pas autant de respect pour le style,alors...
@Kanamare: I'm sure you are right about Joseph Schmidt initially being called the German Caruso by his fans. Possible after the 2nd World War he was called the Jewish Caruso to emphazise his origin - and terrible fate - after those horrible years.... For me he is indeed a German Caruso. He had the empathy and the voice to justify it.
A really great voice and it should be observed that Netflix has his movies and there really good, much better than most of this type. The trill at the end of the aria is legendary..
In Germany? No they had camps all over--- in Poland etc. the Swiss yes did little to nothing to save him but the german gov. took away his honored status and banned all his records and films quick enough, the people many loved him.
HE DIED IN A SWISS INTERNMENT CAMP, THE GERMANS HAD CONCENTRATION CAMPS WE ALL KNOW THAT AND THE GERMAN NAZI BASTARDS WHERE THE CAUSE Anyhow of him being in that swiss camp-- if not for the nazi bastards it would never have been or a swiss camp
@tomfroekjaer 'Jewish Caruso', I like that, very apt. It was the 'Jewish' bit and not the 'Caruso' bit that was his downfall. According to my research, he died trying to flee the Nazis. He was trying to get to America and he only made it as far as Switzerland where he died of illness due to his ordeal trying to flee there and his lack of treatment when he got there. I suppose the Swiss authorities where overwhelmed and unprepared and thats why so many Jews died there.
@JomeAt10 Yes, a very sad story, indeed. Yes, he tried to flee the Nazi's being in France and made it to Switzerland where he unfortunaly wasn't cared for properly medically (heart attack). He would have had the opportunity to apply for asylum in the US in 1937 when he was on tour, but he didn't....
@tomfroekjaer He isn't the "Jewish Caruso". He is a great lyrical tenor. His race/religion has nothing to do with it. In my opinion, he does this aria as well as anyone, including Caruso.
@mareckbamf No, absolutely: race and religion has nothing to do with it. But that was what some called him at the time (Jewish Caruso). He performs this aria most beautifully. One of my favorites!
What a tragic life--and what a gorgeous voice! No hurt intended, but here is the classic example of a great gift in a small package. Fortunately we have a number of recordings that exhibit the range of this titan;s art. The only voice, in my opinion, that comes close to Schmnidt among today';s tenors is Juan Diego Florez--though it must be admitted he has not quite "proven himself" outside the genre of opera. Would love to hear him do some of the truly greatEmmerich Kalman..
@MrGinestra : non capisco proprio perché ci sia tutto questo accanimento nei confronti del commento che ho rilasciato un anno fa. Gli Inglesi, i Francesi, i Tedeschi ( tutte BRAVISSIME persone per le quali ho molta stima, s'intende ) in genere si irritano abbastanza facilmente quando gli Italiani commettono errori di pronuncia, perché allora un Italiano non può avere il diritto di dire che la dizione di questo interprete fa pena ? Le piace Schmidt ? Per me 50 tenori cantavano meglio di lui.CIAO.
i tuoi commenti sono sempre fuori luogo, non prendono mai il bersaglio
ma quale dizione? ...semmai difetta la pronuncia perché la dizione è buona (migliora il tuo scarso lessico italiano)
e poi ascolta un vero tenore e non quei cagnacci che ti piacciono tanto, affina il tuo gusto...senti solamente la vocalizzazione sulla cadenza con un trillo che quelle bestie da soma che tu chiami tenori non si immaginavano di fare neanche in sogno
@mongemark : hai ragione confermo, sono un povero cretino ignorante senza buon gusto, grazie mille per avermelo sottolineato, come minimo non dormirò per 50 notti di fila. P.S. : Ma che cosa vuoi che me ne freghi di quello che uno come te può pensare di me ??? Ogni volta che leggo le PUTTANATE che scrivi al mio GRANDISSIMO AMICO " bodiloto " rido ininterrottamente per ore. Una domanda : cosa pensi del BARITONO Bergonzi ??? Tanti carissimi saluti amicone mio. P.S. : Cosa hai mangiato per cena ?
@mongemark : " bodiloto " è uno dei massimi esperti d'opera viventi, i MEASTRI N. NIKOLOV e F. BONISOLLI sono stati due dei più grandi tenori drammatici di sempre e tu sei un ATTACCABRIGHE ; come vedi la realtà è molto più schematica di quanto uno come te possa pensare. CIAO.
attaccabrighe? vengo continuamente provocato dai vostri stupidissimi commenti...per una volta che scrivo io
bodiloto uno dei massimi esperti d'opera viventi ? se puoi indicarmi qualche suo scritto (libro articolo abstract di convegno) sarei felicissimo di leggerlo
...la realtà è molto più schematica di quanto uno come me può pensare...
e che vuol dire? mi spieghi per favore
tenori drammatici quei due? come risultati artistici sicuramente, molto drammatici...
Sarà anche penosa la dizione ma che voce!! Oggi giorno scandiscono tutti molto bene le parole perchè cercano di sopperire al materiale vocale deficitario...
@araldo09sono troppo vecchio e sono ormai sordo e cieco.Per i giudizi sei tu che ti permetti di giudicare me.
Io avevo detto la mia opinione,non ho offeso nessuno.Il mio commento era per il mio amico@31122051...Non mi ricordo di aver parlato con te.
Sei prode,questo fatto mi rende felice.Ti chiedo scusa per il mio italo/spagnolo, scrivere é una cosa,cantare un'altra.Mi fai paura con la tua aria saccente...Mi conosci?Non credo.
Per me IL PIU IMPORTANTE e che i miei amici sono d'accordo con me.
@bodiloto : condivido al 100 % tutto quello che hai scritto carissimo amico. Ti faccio tanti auguri di buon anno, che il 2011 sia per te pieno di gioia, salute e felicità : CIAO !!!
This is recorded in the 30's so the sound cannot be as good as a modern day tenor's consider that when you hear others, just like Caruso in 1910 is not in the sound this is and this was for the movies-- the studio recording he made was in better sound, still this is very good and a great voice surely.
he also sang it in 1937, new york in recital Carneige hall even better then here with a long trill, 9 sec. at the end and his recording studio is as good as any. I also like Tagliavini in his studio recording, amazing but schmidt had also a terrific high C and even D Flat as sung in his movie a song goes around the world. His studio recording of this is sung straighter and he does not sing up at the end. He recorded much in german for the germans who loved him but died in an internment camp.
Linkabombs take a look of the Ferruccio Tagliavini version of "una furtiva lacrima". I think there is no " the one" but the a lot of versions , all quite different but always beautifull with all those diferent and incredivle voices . (Sorry about my spanglish !!)
Wow! What wonderful recording. The candenza is incredible, and the most perfect trill I have ever heard from a male voice. He was 4 feet 9 inches tall, so a stage career wasn't very feasible, but what a great talent.
No es bueno , es BUENAZO !! Tambien me parece qe no se le entiende mucho . No debe hablar italiano. Pero ademas no termina asi el aria. Termina con amor y esta gravacion termina con una especie de "no quiero"
This is what I love about Youtube. For weeks, I've been consumed with the opera videos. Had never heard of Schmidt. What a voice, what a marvelous rendering of a great, romantic aria. He probably had no trouble finding a date after this performance. Wonderful stuff.
Voce perfettamente appoggiata sul fiato, sicuramente un canto da "manuale" .. l'unico appunto sulla dizione, e sulla qualità del timbro vocale... orribile pronuncia nonchè un timbro di scarsa qualità che sfiora lo sgradevole, sostenuto però da una tecnica perfetta. Se oggi i giovani acquisissero una tecnica così sopraffina, beh ce ne sarebbero tanti di Pavarotti, di Kraus, di Schipa, di Gigli..
Lo so perchè faccio lezione con lui e conosco tanti amici cantanti che lo hanno conosciuto e potrebbero garantire la qualità del suo lavoro.. oltre ad essere un grande teorico musicale è stato un discepolo di Vincenzo D'Alessandro nel '66 ed ha avuto la fortuna di ascoltare dal vivo Beniamino Gigli, Joan Sutherland, Maria Callas e tanti altri tra i più grandi. Comunque se vuoi più informazioni dammi un tuo contatto e ci sentiamo al di fuori di qui :)
L'atteggiamento fisico è ottimo,bocca e lingua comprese!Sospir è solo pronunciato male, ma non è un gran problema rispetto all' ottima esecuzione.
La pronuncia dell' Italiano ancora oggi ,nonostante i grandi mezzi tecnologici a disposizione per approfondirne lo studio,e più di ieri è un problema anche per cantanti non di origine straniera........
Sorry for my english.Schmidt just pronounce not correct "sospir";but his singing is very good,and without mistake in the attitude of mouth or tongue.ciao
I doubt that you guys would have survived as artists in Schmidt's day because people were not looking for textbook perfection, but real artistry. Namely, someone that could make you understand the emotions of the characters. Its a shame that today's generation (especially the American Academy) so focused on turning out perfect textbook examples & not people who give themselves over to the practice of making great art. We as musicians look 4 perfection-but we must make real living breathing art.
@blackmaestro: that is SO true. Technique sung without the soul of the artist is absolutely NOTHING. I love these old masters, not for their technical abilities, but for their ability to BE the role they are singing. Joseph Schmidt, Gigli, Bjoerling and not least the almost illiterate Neapolitan, Enrico Caruso.
We assassinated 6 million Jews in order to end up bringing in 20 million Muslims!
We burnt in Auschwitz the culture, intelligence and power to create.Instead We opened its doors to 20 million Muslims.We exchanged culture with fanaticism,the capacity to create with the will to destroy,the wisdom with the superstition.
We have exchanged the Jews who even under the worst possible conditions have always looked for a better peaceful world, for the suicide bomber.
Fortis,yes, you are right to some point, but I think you simplified it a bit and expressed yourself in a wrong way.1st of all, "We" didnt assassinate 6 million Jews, Nazi did.You and me have nothing to do with it, as well as huge majority of Europe at the time.The idea of genocide against Jews was conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Nazis and collaborators in the countries which were under Nazi occupation.Unfortunately, holocaust was inevitable due to the complex european history factors
How tragic that this wonderful singer was lost to us through the evil of the NAZI regime. He demonstrates a wonderful use of the style of singing being taught in Germany and some middle European countries at the time. Quite different from the Italian mask resonance style but still beautiful when used by a master like Schmidt. BRAVO!!!
When a singer is first learning the coach will focus or place the resonance of the voice to where it sounds the best. Today coaches tend not to impose a specific focus but let the singer find the most comfortable focus compatible with good production.
The German schools tended to produce singers whose focus was deeper in their throats while in Italy they focussed heavily on head tones. The two examples are Tauber (Germanic), Pavarotti/Bocelli (Italic). Cont'd on next box.
Singers like Bjoerling and Wunderlich showed that a balance could be achieved which used the best of both styles and produce a more lovely less stylised sound. That is not a criticism of those focussed in a particular style, just an analysis.
The throaty style produced voices that did not deteriorate but lacked that frisson of the head tone. The Italic, mask focus is by far more exciting with more brilliant high notes but is less forgiving.
Sorry but that is not completely correct. After fleeing from Germany he got ill and was interned as "illegal refugee" in Switzerland. He claimed to have heavy pains in the chest but the Swiss personnel declined an examination. Two days later he died.
Just as tragic that he died due to maltreatment/lack of medical treatment in harsh conditions while interned in a Swiss labour camp. He escaped the German Nazis, but not the Swiss
He is singing in a language he probably did not speak or understand. Listen to some of Domingo's singing in languages he can actually speak like English and German and you will understand the problem of singing in alien languages.
it's kitschy so what!? i was thinking the same, now we cant sing like this and it sometimes misses the fun of it. And this is such a poor opera. And we cant sing with the glissando's, from too much to nothing, well the italian is very wrong ahah.
joaopedro12 1 month ago
ho na nuovo tenor favorito!
AugustusOctavianus8 1 month ago
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Great voice, a real legend. Please if you have the time take a look at my take on this. It is a great song and I hope I did it justice, /watch?v=BgbDA_GR5EU , thanks.
topboy006 1 month ago
he sings like a beatiful bird:)))
zsuzsamold 2 months ago
he a sweetheart:))
zsuzsamold 2 months ago
Love him, love this aria =w=
LovelessRitsukaAoyag 2 months ago
13 Leute die von Gesang nichts verstehen!
Tenorliebe 4 months ago
er singt es am besten wunderbar love
MrGamestar007 4 months ago
I've listened several tenors' version. This is one of the best I think.
seasidefoto 5 months ago
Schmidt was known as the Pocket Caruso for his stature and more compact singing
fatherman73 5 months ago
Such enormous sadness to the end of this magnificent singer- we must never forget and seek out such fear and ignorance and destroy it each time it rears its head- thank you for this- Charles
malcolmcberry 5 months ago
It is impotant to apreciate the time when this style of singing was in vogue.
You cannot deny the beautifiul voice, breath control andintonation.
He was very unfortunate, nay tragic, dying in a camp in Switzerland of ?pneumonia. Brought on by the apalling treatment by the nazis.
seandoc1948 5 months ago
FABULOUS ENDING. My God.
andrewdysontenor 5 months ago
Gran voz, eterna melodía. Gracias por compartir, JAVIER
salvatoriedad 5 months ago
wow
scaloish 7 months ago
the pianist.. LOL! not really a pianist.. i think.. hahaha! ^^
MusicalTenor23 7 months ago
When I was 5yrs old, I was privileged to listen to two men. Louis Armstrong and Joseph Schmidt. Both have stayed in my heart forever. Both bring tears of joy whenever I hear them.
Now, strange as it might seem, I believe rap star Eminem was influenced by Joseph Schmidt's Lacrima. There are certain nuances in Eminem's "Cleaning Out My Closet" that are so close to Joseph's Lacrima that make me weep when I listen to both of them.
Please do not mock.
againrocky 7 months ago
He is good, but to say that he is better than Jussi Björning is a little step tooooo far in my opinion. But he is rly good, yes.
prinsenavislandet1 7 months ago
what an atrocious italian accent. it's very unacceptable from a first class singer to chew the words and spit them out...
aryankhah 8 months ago
Yes, I believe it was a heart attack and I think he was only forty-two. I didn't know he could have applied for asylum in 1937. If only he'd done that, things might have been different, at least for him if not for the others.
JomeAt10 8 months ago
Great tenor. Pity his career was so abruptly brought to an end. What a tragic loss!
JomeAt10 8 months ago
Purely Magnificent. In awe at his control of pitch with passion of emotion that makes you feel the story!.
420billion 9 months ago
Love his voice and his technique. Personally, I think he was a lot better than Caruso.
HallucinationLiz 9 months ago
@HallucinationLiz He was, in my opinion (it's always a matter of opinion, isn't it?) overall not better than Caruso. But in some respects he was ! He had an easy high register, sailing up even to a high D. Caruso had other qualities. The empathy and feeling expressed by Caruso in his 1904 (poor...) recording of Una furtiva lagrima has (in my opinion) to this day never been surpassed in this aria. I've uploaded several versions of it.
tomfroekjaer 8 months ago
@tomfroekjaer Nobody I've heard comes close to Caruso on this aria. I think this is a rather bizarre performance of what is supposed to be done in a good, old fashioned 'bel canto' style, to tell you the truth. Playing tonsil hockey near the end of a beautifully constructed aria like this is NOT recommended! Bad taste!
wiseroldfart 8 months ago
@wiseroldfart No, of course I also think that no one has ever matched Caruso's 1904 recording. But these are other circumstances. It's a film....
I still like his voice, though.
tomfroekjaer 8 months ago
@wiseroldfart I wish you had such a "bad taste" as Joseph Schmidt. In your writing,..you have it in any case.
wetering777 1 month ago
@wetering777 Yeah, I know. That's why Schmidt was so much more popular than Caruso and Bjorling.
You obviously don't know tackiness from brilliance.
wiseroldfart 1 month ago
Personally I greatly prefer Joseph Schmidt's voice with its thrilling high notes and almost gymnastic runs and trills, to Richard Tauber's clipped high notes and frequent falsetto.
gregnz2006 9 months ago
I heard an interesting comment from my mum recently. I say the two best singers ever to come out of Germany are this man and Richard Tauber. My mum says "Joseph Schmidt is the poor man's Richard Tauber."
martythetickler 10 months ago
How anyone could dislike this even if you are not an opera fan such as myself is insane. Pure beauty...
subicbrat 10 months ago
@subicbrat That's the problem with your assessment. You're not an Opera fan. This is a serious aria, not an exercise for tonsils. I'm not knocking Schmidt's ability. I'm knocking his poor taste.
wiseroldfart 1 month ago
His studio recording of course was sung as written without the high B flat ending and sung somewhat differently then this one for the film. He was a fine artist.
SHICOFF1 10 months ago
Great Voice and great high notes and the greatest Cadenza of any tenor I ever heard. His live La Donna E Mobile has the cadenza at the end that is amazing!
SHICOFF1 10 months ago
peccato molto bella tranne il finale...
gaspamagik94 11 months ago
God bless him
TheBroadway135 11 months ago
Dios lo bendiga,god bless him.
TheBroadway135 11 months ago
Some liberties were taken but when the voice and musicianship is of this amazing standard, it is allowed. The man died at the hands of the NAZIs over 65 years ago yet he made such an impact that he is still being heard, studied, and loved in the new milenniium.
donaldrose 11 months ago
@donaldrose: actually he did not die at the hands of the (German at least...) NAZIs. He died in Switzerland due to lack of medical care.
tomfroekjaer 11 months ago
Very impressive. Amazing range, buttery soft tone. A Caruso "type" indeed. Am I mistaken or does he resemble (facially) Harry Houdini?
1HiMimi 11 months ago
non chiedo, chiedOOOOOOOOOOOOO !! loooooooll i like it!!!
ilkertenor 1 year ago
He passes my personal 'tear test' ..........I can't type coz I'm weeping at the sheer beauty...................................J. Christ help us all in this awful stark world of terrorism & deceit; gimme a mountain, a bunch of grapes, a sweet innocent maiden to represent ALL mankind's potential GOOD within this WONDERFUL world PLUS GREAT TENOR Voices to focus us on where we COULD go IF we all had more beauty in our miserable souls. STOP.
biggerthanacadillac 1 year ago 4
I think listening him is a humble and respectful way to keep alive his memory, and make a statement against all dictatoric regimes.
oznob64 1 year ago 35
@oznob64 You do know that he wasn't killed though, right..? Then why misuse his nice music against dictatoric regimes?
Freiheitskaempfer15 5 months ago
@Freiheitskaempfer15
Well, it's obvious you never experienced dictatorship.
LorentzElena32 3 months ago
@LorentzElena32 But you have? When and where was that?
Freiheitskaempfer15 3 months ago
What we would have missed if he would have stayed the synagoge cantor as planned. And how much that dammed fu... Nazis stole from us.
HIKless 1 year ago 2
Wow, he looks really bizarre at the end there...as if he's using his tongue to create the trill, which doesn't even seem possible. Obviously whatever he's doing is working...this is a fantastic rendition. Still, it's really weird to watch, especially his tongue, throughout the entire thing. If you're a singer, check that out, you'll be as confused as I am.
RandomZydeco 1 year ago
@RandomZydeco I am always getting into trouble from my teacher for not keeping my tongue against my bottom teeth to create the space to create the required sound. In this clip and other clips Scmidt does the exact opposite! Also for certain words his diction is awful. e.g. "I miei sospir, confondere" he sings something like "i miei hohir" and other such mistakes. That said it still sounds wonderful.
IrishTenor1982 1 year ago
@IrishTenor1982 Look closer...his tongue stays on his teeth except when he makes consonants such as "l" and "n". He makes these correctly using the tongue, not the jaw. With regard to "I miei sospir" he's minimalizing the "s" and using his tongue almost in a lisping way. Corelli did much the same thing.
MrPrimotenore 1 year ago
@MrPrimotenore I'm afraid i really don't see what you are seeing. While he is certainly in overall control, his tongue seems to move quite independently it would appear. Almost like he remembers, then forgets for an instant and remembers again! He sounds great but it is perhaps the romanian/german school which is producing this effect. Wonderful to hear but not to look at. I never saw Corelli do this.
IrishTenor1982 1 year ago
@IrishTenor1982 That's cool. It's hard to tell from old video where the audio may not be perfectly in sync anyway. The only way to know for sure was to have seen him up close and personal. He may have done something odd with his tongue, as Domingo does, and he has certainly gotten by ok. ;) As for Corelli, I studies with him for a while. I not only saw & heard him do it live, but he demonstrated it in lessons, & have heard it on many recordings. It's not a big loud thing, very subtle.
MrPrimotenore 1 year ago
@IrishTenor1982 That's cool. It's hard to tell from old video where the audio may not be perfectly in sync anyway. The only way to know for sure was to have seen him up close and personal. He may have done something odd with his tongue, as Domingo does, and he has certainly gotten by ok. ;) As for Corelli, I studied with him for a while. I not only saw & heard him do it live, but he demonstrated it in lessons, & have heard it on many recordings. It's not a big loud thing, very subtle.
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@RandomZydeco I am always getting into trouble from my teacher for not keeping my tongue against my bottom teeth to create the space to create the required sound. In this clip and other clips Scmidt does the exact opposite! Also for certain words his diction is awful. e.g. "I miei sospir, confondere" he sings something like "i miei hohir" and other such mistakes. That said it still sounds wonderful.
IrishTenor1982 1 year ago
what a great renor. Died young in Switzerland escaping from the nazis.
albertdiner 1 year ago
Goosebumps....
BIGBASS1992 1 year ago 2
One of the most genius and brilliant singers..victim of the terror of the psychopath Hitler..let us always remember him as we will never remember the psycyopath Hitler(only as an insane killer) . We will always remember Joseph Schmidt as an example how healthy and talented people will be remembered...Joseph you will ever be loved !
PeterdeHoo 1 year ago 2
CHE PENA QUESTA INTERPRETAZIONE ! VOCE INTERESSANTE MA USATA MALISSIMO, DIZIONE E PRONUNCIA OSCENE, STILE E GUSTO PARI A ZERO. COME SI PUO' ELOGIARE UN CANTANTE DEL GENERE, CHE MOLTO PROBABILMENTE NON SI RENDE NEMMENO CONTO DI QUELLO CHE STA CANTANDO ?
31122051 1 year ago
Dice cualquier cosa
alvarogm86 1 year ago
Sehr bewegend, mir ist auch wichtig, dass ein Künstler in der Musik lebt und nicht nur ein Textbuch runtersprudelt.
RlCARDA 1 year ago
bella voce ma il resto ?
bodiloto 1 year ago
the whole cadenza oh my gosh!!!!!!!!!!!
g4thz 1 year ago
Très convaincant musicalement et vocalement.Bien sûr un italien fremit d'entendre sa langue ainsi amputée mais Corelli aussi chuintait étrangement parfois et n'avais pas autant de respect pour le style,alors...
abracadabranque 1 year ago
I defy any tenor of today to do this! Thank yu for posting this treasure.
Manxypop 1 year ago
Dio mio,che magnifica voce!
zelora1 1 year ago
Fantastic singing - what voice, technique and musicality - weird Italian pronunciation notwithstanding. Great, great singer!
troppofiato 1 year ago
Signor Schidt aveva un bel voce MA, la sua pronuncia d'italiana era terribile,seconda me.
joelweisberg 1 year ago
@joelweisberg Terribile come quella che usi tu..
araldo09 1 year ago
what did he have against the letters N and M?
wattever333 1 year ago
La dizione è scarsa ma la voce è magnifica.
natolibero63 1 year ago
@Kanamare: I'm sure you are right about Joseph Schmidt initially being called the German Caruso by his fans. Possible after the 2nd World War he was called the Jewish Caruso to emphazise his origin - and terrible fate - after those horrible years.... For me he is indeed a German Caruso. He had the empathy and the voice to justify it.
tomfroekjaer 1 year ago
@Kanamare: I guess some people was called him the German Caruso, others the Jewish Caruso and some even "Pocket Caruso" (because of his small size.
tomfroekjaer 1 year ago
He's origins was jewish, but he was born in Romania, village " Davideni " !
He was named also the Jewish Caruso !
TenorBarbilian 1 year ago 2
incredible
keepinitlive1 1 year ago
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?maginficent? I'm italian and I can't understand most of his words! He destroyed the beautiful italian melodic language.
KingsARuler 1 year ago
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KingsARuler 1 year ago
Absolutely magnificent. What a sad story of his life. And what an ending!
maestro2be 1 year ago
Bravo...
ishkaprielian 1 year ago
Bravo Maestro Schmidt!!
robertdoyle1975 1 year ago 2
Look back 6 mos ago to german opera singer post singing yours is my heart alone and see i said HE DIED IN A SWISS INTERNMENT CAMP.
halavey 2 years ago
A really great voice and it should be observed that Netflix has his movies and there really good, much better than most of this type. The trill at the end of the aria is legendary..
gaytenor 2 years ago 2
In Germany? No they had camps all over--- in Poland etc. the Swiss yes did little to nothing to save him but the german gov. took away his honored status and banned all his records and films quick enough, the people many loved him.
halavey 2 years ago
HE DIED IN A SWISS INTERNMENT CAMP, THE GERMANS HAD CONCENTRATION CAMPS WE ALL KNOW THAT AND THE GERMAN NAZI BASTARDS WHERE THE CAUSE Anyhow of him being in that swiss camp-- if not for the nazi bastards it would never have been or a swiss camp
halavey 2 years ago
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gaytenor 2 years ago
Beautiful voice and singer.
halavey 2 years ago
The "Jewish Caruso" - an absolutely divine voice. Thanks for sharing this beauty.
tomfroekjaer 2 years ago 16
@tomfroekjaer 'Jewish Caruso', I like that, very apt. It was the 'Jewish' bit and not the 'Caruso' bit that was his downfall. According to my research, he died trying to flee the Nazis. He was trying to get to America and he only made it as far as Switzerland where he died of illness due to his ordeal trying to flee there and his lack of treatment when he got there. I suppose the Swiss authorities where overwhelmed and unprepared and thats why so many Jews died there.
JomeAt10 8 months ago
@JomeAt10 Yes, a very sad story, indeed. Yes, he tried to flee the Nazi's being in France and made it to Switzerland where he unfortunaly wasn't cared for properly medically (heart attack). He would have had the opportunity to apply for asylum in the US in 1937 when he was on tour, but he didn't....
tomfroekjaer 8 months ago
@tomfroekjaer He isn't the "Jewish Caruso". He is a great lyrical tenor. His race/religion has nothing to do with it. In my opinion, he does this aria as well as anyone, including Caruso.
mareckbamf 5 months ago
@mareckbamf No, absolutely: race and religion has nothing to do with it. But that was what some called him at the time (Jewish Caruso). He performs this aria most beautifully. One of my favorites!
tomfroekjaer 5 months ago
What a tragic life--and what a gorgeous voice! No hurt intended, but here is the classic example of a great gift in a small package. Fortunately we have a number of recordings that exhibit the range of this titan;s art. The only voice, in my opinion, that comes close to Schmnidt among today';s tenors is Juan Diego Florez--though it must be admitted he has not quite "proven himself" outside the genre of opera. Would love to hear him do some of the truly greatEmmerich Kalman..
jrtrmish 2 years ago
HE WAS ONLY FOUR FOOT TEN BUT ALL VOICE!
halavey 2 years ago
Una dizione più penosa credo che sia impossibile trovarla.
31122051 2 years ago
lol
Pawelp 2 years ago
@Pawelp Vorrei sentire la tua dizione in tedesco.
MrGinestra 10 months ago
@MrGinestra : non capisco proprio perché ci sia tutto questo accanimento nei confronti del commento che ho rilasciato un anno fa. Gli Inglesi, i Francesi, i Tedeschi ( tutte BRAVISSIME persone per le quali ho molta stima, s'intende ) in genere si irritano abbastanza facilmente quando gli Italiani commettono errori di pronuncia, perché allora un Italiano non può avere il diritto di dire che la dizione di questo interprete fa pena ? Le piace Schmidt ? Per me 50 tenori cantavano meglio di lui.CIAO.
31122051 10 months ago
@31122051 In effetti, l'importante è...non irritarsi e non accanirsi!
Ci capisco ben poco di canto, sicuramente meno di lei ma il timbro è piacevole e l'interpretazione sentita. Così almeno mi pare...
MrGinestra 10 months ago
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robertocresca 2 years ago
@robertocresca Ma pensa a studiare.. e impara da questo Grande tenore,invece di sputare sentenze..
araldo09 1 year ago
@araldo09 Fleta,Marconi,De Lucia,Caruso,Masini,Merli,Lauri-Volpi,Gigli,Schipa...ascolta non perdi il tuo tempo ...Ciao
bodiloto 1 year ago
@31122051
i tuoi commenti sono sempre fuori luogo, non prendono mai il bersaglio
ma quale dizione? ...semmai difetta la pronuncia perché la dizione è buona (migliora il tuo scarso lessico italiano)
e poi ascolta un vero tenore e non quei cagnacci che ti piacciono tanto, affina il tuo gusto...senti solamente la vocalizzazione sulla cadenza con un trillo che quelle bestie da soma che tu chiami tenori non si immaginavano di fare neanche in sogno
mongemark 1 year ago
@mongemark : hai ragione confermo, sono un povero cretino ignorante senza buon gusto, grazie mille per avermelo sottolineato, come minimo non dormirò per 50 notti di fila. P.S. : Ma che cosa vuoi che me ne freghi di quello che uno come te può pensare di me ??? Ogni volta che leggo le PUTTANATE che scrivi al mio GRANDISSIMO AMICO " bodiloto " rido ininterrottamente per ore. Una domanda : cosa pensi del BARITONO Bergonzi ??? Tanti carissimi saluti amicone mio. P.S. : Cosa hai mangiato per cena ?
31122051 1 year ago
@31122051
io non scrivo mai a bodiloto è il contrario e da un po' non gli rispondo per nulla
quanto a Schmidt è un gran cantante e non è come i cagnacci che piacciono a te:
ovvero nikolov e bonisolli, però al contrario di te non dico parolacce...quindi oltre ad avere cattivo gusto sei anche maleducato
mongemark 1 year ago
@mongemark : " bodiloto " è uno dei massimi esperti d'opera viventi, i MEASTRI N. NIKOLOV e F. BONISOLLI sono stati due dei più grandi tenori drammatici di sempre e tu sei un ATTACCABRIGHE ; come vedi la realtà è molto più schematica di quanto uno come te possa pensare. CIAO.
31122051 1 year ago
@31122051
attaccabrighe? vengo continuamente provocato dai vostri stupidissimi commenti...per una volta che scrivo io
bodiloto uno dei massimi esperti d'opera viventi ? se puoi indicarmi qualche suo scritto (libro articolo abstract di convegno) sarei felicissimo di leggerlo
...la realtà è molto più schematica di quanto uno come me può pensare...
e che vuol dire? mi spieghi per favore
tenori drammatici quei due? come risultati artistici sicuramente, molto drammatici...
mongemark 1 year ago
@mongemark : BLA BLA BLA.
31122051 1 year ago
Sarà anche penosa la dizione ma che voce!! Oggi giorno scandiscono tutti molto bene le parole perchè cercano di sopperire al materiale vocale deficitario...
dulcamara74 1 year ago
@31122051 Che commento inutile.. senti come usa la voce..
araldo09 1 year ago
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bodiloto 1 year ago
@bodiloto Ma di dove sei?? Come ti permetti di giudicare la dizione italiana quando tu scrivi in un italo/spagnolo appena sufficiente..
araldo09 1 year ago
@araldo09sono troppo vecchio e sono ormai sordo e cieco.Per i giudizi sei tu che ti permetti di giudicare me.
Io avevo detto la mia opinione,non ho offeso nessuno.Il mio commento era per il mio amico@31122051...Non mi ricordo di aver parlato con te.
Sei prode,questo fatto mi rende felice.Ti chiedo scusa per il mio italo/spagnolo, scrivere é una cosa,cantare un'altra.Mi fai paura con la tua aria saccente...Mi conosci?Non credo.
Per me IL PIU IMPORTANTE e che i miei amici sono d'accordo con me.
bodiloto 1 year ago
@31122051 parole sante Amico mio!
E poi dove e La dolcezza?La tristezza?La bellezza nel suono italiano?La morbidezza?Lo stile ITALIANO?
INESISTENTI?Ciao carissimo!
bodiloto 1 year ago
@bodiloto : condivido al 100 % tutto quello che hai scritto carissimo amico. Ti faccio tanti auguri di buon anno, che il 2011 sia per te pieno di gioia, salute e felicità : CIAO !!!
31122051 1 year ago
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MrGinestra 10 months ago
This is recorded in the 30's so the sound cannot be as good as a modern day tenor's consider that when you hear others, just like Caruso in 1910 is not in the sound this is and this was for the movies-- the studio recording he made was in better sound, still this is very good and a great voice surely.
halavey 2 years ago
he also sang it in 1937, new york in recital Carneige hall even better then here with a long trill, 9 sec. at the end and his recording studio is as good as any. I also like Tagliavini in his studio recording, amazing but schmidt had also a terrific high C and even D Flat as sung in his movie a song goes around the world. His studio recording of this is sung straighter and he does not sing up at the end. He recorded much in german for the germans who loved him but died in an internment camp.
halavey 2 years ago 2
Re :" He recorded much in german for the germans who loved him but died in an internment camp".
A SWISS Internment camp. Your comment gives the impression that he died in Germany.
Baskerville22 2 years ago
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jmocic4ever 2 years ago
Linkabombs take a look of the Ferruccio Tagliavini version of "una furtiva lacrima". I think there is no " the one" but the a lot of versions , all quite different but always beautifull with all those diferent and incredivle voices . (Sorry about my spanglish !!)
astrolabius2 2 years ago
Wow! What wonderful recording. The candenza is incredible, and the most perfect trill I have ever heard from a male voice. He was 4 feet 9 inches tall, so a stage career wasn't very feasible, but what a great talent.
Shahrdad 2 years ago 2
He played in many films
jhelberg17 2 years ago
The best performace of this aria is made by Alfredo Kraus I guess, but this is also very nice.
Grigory79 2 years ago
those chicks wanna ride the schmidt train...
brewchugger 2 years ago 2
wow !!! when was that ?
Cosifantuttee 2 years ago
My goodness......this is....amazing. His cadenza at the end is so agile. His placement is perfect. WHY HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF HIM!!??
happyactor6 2 years ago
Wonderful performance.
Great voice.
kotasierota 2 years ago
No es bueno , es BUENAZO !! Tambien me parece qe no se le entiende mucho . No debe hablar italiano. Pero ademas no termina asi el aria. Termina con amor y esta gravacion termina con una especie de "no quiero"
astrolabius2 2 years ago
Me gusta mucho la forma de terminar el aria. Es muy original nunca lo había oído así.
bizarroburlesque 2 years ago
if I could give 100 stars I would!
nevskixx 2 years ago 2
trooo beau jadore!!
yasso3006 2 years ago 2
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yasso3006 2 years ago
This is what I love about Youtube. For weeks, I've been consumed with the opera videos. Had never heard of Schmidt. What a voice, what a marvelous rendering of a great, romantic aria. He probably had no trouble finding a date after this performance. Wonderful stuff.
jd1906sf 2 years ago 2
totaly agree
linkabombs 2 years ago
It's difficult to imagine singing more beautiful then this!
skatesindreams 2 years ago
No me gusta... parece que le estan apretando los huevos todo el tiempo.
A las chicas del video tampoco les gusta... es todo una actuacion. =)
Valantur 2 years ago 2
jajajajjajajajajajjaajaja q weno estuvo eso de la apretacion xD !!
eduardoslash 2 years ago
mucho mejor es la version original de jose carreras o pavarotti, no le pone mucho tono a su voz, no se entiende mucho
windennis90 2 years ago
Quite honestly! Awesome!
mayflash67 2 years ago
Joseph Schmidt is a natural! If second world war would not have came - He would have been much more appreciated.
maxhansendk 2 years ago
Voce perfettamente appoggiata sul fiato, sicuramente un canto da "manuale" .. l'unico appunto sulla dizione, e sulla qualità del timbro vocale... orribile pronuncia nonchè un timbro di scarsa qualità che sfiora lo sgradevole, sostenuto però da una tecnica perfetta. Se oggi i giovani acquisissero una tecnica così sopraffina, beh ce ne sarebbero tanti di Pavarotti, di Kraus, di Schipa, di Gigli..
Turee85 2 years ago
sono da cordo ma dove stano I maestri che conoscono la vecchia scuola di bel canto?
kingcorelli 2 years ago
Certo che ci sono!, un nome? Michael Aspinall .. se vuoi ti faccio avere il numero
Turee85 2 years ago
Si grazie turee85. come lo sai che bravo?
kingcorelli 2 years ago
Lo so perchè faccio lezione con lui e conosco tanti amici cantanti che lo hanno conosciuto e potrebbero garantire la qualità del suo lavoro.. oltre ad essere un grande teorico musicale è stato un discepolo di Vincenzo D'Alessandro nel '66 ed ha avuto la fortuna di ascoltare dal vivo Beniamino Gigli, Joan Sutherland, Maria Callas e tanti altri tra i più grandi. Comunque se vuoi più informazioni dammi un tuo contatto e ci sentiamo al di fuori di qui :)
Turee85 2 years ago
In my opinion Joseph Smidt had a very
beautiful and full voice. It is very old school
singing a la Gigli, Caruso.
There is something with his tongue though.
It is not staying relaxed. This is incorrect.
He sings someting else instead of ''SOSPIR''I miei SOSPIR''.
''Confondere i mieci co' suoi SOSPIR''.
Anybody know what he is singing instead of ''SOSPIR'' ?
ali1082 2 years ago
L'atteggiamento fisico è ottimo,bocca e lingua comprese!Sospir è solo pronunciato male, ma non è un gran problema rispetto all' ottima esecuzione.
La pronuncia dell' Italiano ancora oggi ,nonostante i grandi mezzi tecnologici a disposizione per approfondirne lo studio,e più di ieri è un problema anche per cantanti non di origine straniera........
elfomusic62 2 years ago
I don't understand Italian unfortunately.
I did the Google translation.
The tongue thing Schmidt is doing, is not correct. I won't discuss this with you.
ali1082 2 years ago
Sorry for my english.Schmidt just pronounce not correct "sospir";but his singing is very good,and without mistake in the attitude of mouth or tongue.ciao
elfomusic62 2 years ago
I doubt that you guys would have survived as artists in Schmidt's day because people were not looking for textbook perfection, but real artistry. Namely, someone that could make you understand the emotions of the characters. Its a shame that today's generation (especially the American Academy) so focused on turning out perfect textbook examples & not people who give themselves over to the practice of making great art. We as musicians look 4 perfection-but we must make real living breathing art.
blackmaestro 2 years ago 17
@blackmaestro: that is SO true. Technique sung without the soul of the artist is absolutely NOTHING. I love these old masters, not for their technical abilities, but for their ability to BE the role they are singing. Joseph Schmidt, Gigli, Bjoerling and not least the almost illiterate Neapolitan, Enrico Caruso.
tomfroekjaer 1 year ago 4
@blackmaestro well said
misbreadfruit 1 year ago
Are you great singer as well, if you can criticize perfect technic of Mr. Schmid.
ThommyssChatz 2 years ago
it sounds like solpir... i don't know?
eugenelohks 2 years ago
BRAVO!
FilippoBass 2 years ago
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We assassinated 6 million Jews in order to end up bringing in 20 million Muslims!
We burnt in Auschwitz the culture, intelligence and power to create.Instead We opened its doors to 20 million Muslims.We exchanged culture with fanaticism,the capacity to create with the will to destroy,the wisdom with the superstition.
We have exchanged the Jews who even under the worst possible conditions have always looked for a better peaceful world, for the suicide bomber.
fortis1978 2 years ago
Fortis,yes, you are right to some point, but I think you simplified it a bit and expressed yourself in a wrong way.1st of all, "We" didnt assassinate 6 million Jews, Nazi did.You and me have nothing to do with it, as well as huge majority of Europe at the time.The idea of genocide against Jews was conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Nazis and collaborators in the countries which were under Nazi occupation.Unfortunately, holocaust was inevitable due to the complex european history factors
markovican 2 years ago 2
This is wonderful. I'm listening to this five times in a row.
Neosillogium 2 years ago 6
How tragic that this wonderful singer was lost to us through the evil of the NAZI regime. He demonstrates a wonderful use of the style of singing being taught in Germany and some middle European countries at the time. Quite different from the Italian mask resonance style but still beautiful when used by a master like Schmidt. BRAVO!!!
donaldrose 2 years ago 21
Could you elaborate a bit on what was characteristic of the German style of singing?
Thank you.
semprelibra 2 years ago
When a singer is first learning the coach will focus or place the resonance of the voice to where it sounds the best. Today coaches tend not to impose a specific focus but let the singer find the most comfortable focus compatible with good production.
The German schools tended to produce singers whose focus was deeper in their throats while in Italy they focussed heavily on head tones. The two examples are Tauber (Germanic), Pavarotti/Bocelli (Italic). Cont'd on next box.
donaldrose 2 years ago 6
Singers like Bjoerling and Wunderlich showed that a balance could be achieved which used the best of both styles and produce a more lovely less stylised sound. That is not a criticism of those focussed in a particular style, just an analysis.
The throaty style produced voices that did not deteriorate but lacked that frisson of the head tone. The Italic, mask focus is by far more exciting with more brilliant high notes but is less forgiving.
Does that help?
donaldrose 2 years ago 8
Yes, your explanation is very edifying. Thanks so much donald for taking the time to answer my query.
semprelibra 2 years ago
Sorry but that is not completely correct. After fleeing from Germany he got ill and was interned as "illegal refugee" in Switzerland. He claimed to have heavy pains in the chest but the Swiss personnel declined an examination. Two days later he died.
Siopus 2 years ago
@donaldrose
Just as tragic that he died due to maltreatment/lack of medical treatment in harsh conditions while interned in a Swiss labour camp. He escaped the German Nazis, but not the Swiss
vanzofaust 1 year ago
Vabbè chiaramente alla fine le donne nel pubblico se l'è fatte tutte in camerino XD
woffolo 2 years ago
La dizione fa veramente pena, ma vocalmente è splendido.
31122051 2 years ago
Beautiful trill, no doubt.
Shame about his pronunciation, or lack thereof.
Nice suit.
Nicrhind 2 years ago
He is singing in a language he probably did not speak or understand. Listen to some of Domingo's singing in languages he can actually speak like English and German and you will understand the problem of singing in alien languages.
donaldrose 2 years ago
lol, what a trill!
flaze3 2 years ago
Yes the swiss and yes it was horrible but his voice lives.
pearlmuth3 2 years ago
Outstanding! What a lost for the world such singer did only live 38 years in that cruel time.
georgia2b 2 years ago
This is the same song that Jake Fratelli Sings in the Goonies after feeding Sloth. What a classic.
Bobbybobby85 2 years ago
wow!!! brilliant voice...great video!
fantasopera 2 years ago 2
he is the uncle of my grandmother. no joke.
i am so proud !
tototamuz 2 years ago
What a voice.
bluefish990 3 years ago
i am very sorry to hear this excellent voice only today not before. nazizm is the biggest crime ever. rest in peace joseph...
cagatay212 3 years ago 6