Creepy but not surprising from a cult member who worships as "the ideal indiividual" someone who was a petty thief, a wife beater, a sociopath, a drug addicted rum besotted schitzophrenic, who's mind has been twisted by veneral disease.
Scientologists are just COWARDS. Their only way to defend their cult is through fear and intimidation of others. I call that PATHETIC and really just the lowest of the low of human behaviour.
We can only hope that Darth Tardly isn't actively trying to harass some poor dude named Paul in Wilhemina, Oregon right now.
It would be funny--imagine some guy who isn't even aware of the Anonyous v. Scilon activism going on receiving weird mail from that strange little boy praising LRH and cursing Anonymous--but, as Delany says, it is more creepy than humourous.
It also serves to prove Anon is right: Scientology screws people's heads up. Badly.
Hey, where did ChristianlySkeptical's comments go? Seems they've all been pulled. That ain't shattering suppression. That ain't confronting the SPs.
I love the smell of tech being squirreled in the morning. Smells like...
The true legacy of LRH and his "Tech": Fraud, dishonesty, greed, and sniveling cowardice. The man died insane, on drugs and on the run from the law. The cult he unleashed on the world will die similarly, perhaps not quietly, but indeed, without sorrow.
Delaney: too bad you got caught in the headlights of CS's insanity, apparently her (self-disclosed) psych intervention and therapy is taking a while to work.
Thanks for your contribution to the cause, even if you do talk too much lol :)
WOW, Interesting comm cycle, ChristianlySkeptical calls "ME' a troll (by PM naturally) and skitters away. Yet no one has answered the original question ....
What, about this specific video
(Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal) could be construed as "hate speech"
ANYBODY ?
Darthtrayal said if your going to make an assertion/accusation (such as hate speech) then you better have the facts to back it up and I agree with him.......
You want to get in contact with Scientologists on your channel, right?
How come there is not a single Scientologist, who has commented on your channel yet?
Seems like even Scientologists think you are batshit insane and don't want to have anything to do with you or your "professional" social work.
In the eye of Scientologists, you are nothing than an aberrated person full of nasty engrams, who should be either raised on the tone scale or disposed of quietly and without sorrow.
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Because at this point they don't give enough of a shite. That's ok. Either way the effort was made and if and when I walk away with a book, if you all kill one another it won't come back to haunt me and on the day of the next death under strange circumstances like Mario Majorski, the right people willa) ask the right questions of ALL SIDES, b) buy the book, and c) enrich me.
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I believe the reckless actions taken by both sides will end badly. The potential exists for this to become, as a result of ratcheted up pressure, far bigger than Waco or Jonestown.
If it does, then on your heads be it too, where it belongs.
So your particular brand of "social justice" is all about you getting rich. You don't give a rat's ass about anybody or anything but yourself you lying piece of crud. All this is a farce for attention.
You would probably walk over the corpse of a dead maori tribesman for a quarter, you transparent fuck.
Repeating something is hate speech? Are you serious?
What about his (Delanys) post is hate speech ?
Can you tell us what is hateful about it without the misdirect of "repeating/mirroring " or insulting anyone who questions your self appointed authority?
Everything you say is some kind of misdirection or insult.
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If you bothered to watch my videos as well, you would easily come to realize that CD's extremism goes beyond reason. I quite comprehend people's "concers" (being diplomatic here - people should try it.. it avoids Jonestowns!).
I'm sick of CrazyDelaney posting things or sending emails which invoke Godwin's so often it makes me grind my teeth. This is not acceptable, and it becomes more so when it is repeated so often by mirrors as to become hateful speech.
Thank you for proving my point. You cannot even begin to offer one specific example of why this specific video ( Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal ) is hate speech.
I have not heard him invoke Goodwin's (Law) here. Why can't you address what he actually says ......
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Watch my videos you stupid _____ (insert appropriate epithet here).
I won't keep pointing you to the water if you aren't going to drink. His video sparked a very long flurry of email exchange which revealed his belief that Scientologists must be stopped, like "Neo-Nazis," at any and all costs.
He is too _____! (again insert whatever pleases you "clueless _____ " (hope all speak 'anon' or come from a culture as offensive to fill that one).
What can you cite from this specific video (Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal) as hate speech, which is what you initially declared.
Please be specific or I will only assume (As Darth would say) your pulling this stuff out of your ass. And yes I have seen your tedious and pedantic videos....
Yes, I have read "Dianetics", I put it in the library collection to begin with , along with new copies of about 4 or 5 other "basic" Scientology books and the DVD "An Introduction to Scientology".
They are as coherent and logical as your last post.
So you can't actually say why this specific video (Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal) is hate speech, is that correct ?
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I judge the video and an accompany commentary offered by CD which were sent to me when I opened a comm line with him (roflmao - ooooh she spoke Sci, must be OSA amirite?). The email, one in particular, is exposed in my videos. That again, you fail to watch in wide screen or to wait for payoffs, I assume you're literate as you can type.
I have read dianetics about 20 years ago. I remember that he seems to place a lot of attention on what babies hear in the womb. He goes on to speak about botched attempts at abortion, and the scars that leaves on them as adults.
Coincedentally, Ron jr(LRH's son) says he witnessed LRH sitting on top of his mother with a coat hanger, giving her an abortion. he was about 8 years old.
It sounds like LRH was speaking from personal experience when he wrote dianetics.
So, no specific response to Librarian62's request for a specific citation for your "hate speech" assertion.
If you're the best OSA's got, $cientology is truly screwed. Hope you've got a plan for life after the fall. Heating grates are going to be overbooked next winter. If you're lucky, you've got family you can reconnect with.
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Either way, your homepage on YouTube gets to be a part of herstory and his. In fact, you and your librarian friend get to be the examples of how 'critics' abuse comments in order to promote a false reality of benign appearance and a Constitutional agenda. As we both realize, 'critics' of Scientology are little better than Scientologists themselves looking to re-establish what they lost in the past.
"Either way, your homepage on YouTube gets to be a part of herstory ".
Wow, that'll sure show me. Why, I'm gonna have to totally rethink my entire approach. You've really shown me the light there, CS! Think I'll head down to my local org...if I can get half as enlightened as yourself, it'll sure be worth the measly $350,000 they'll charge!
Meanwhile, how 'bout a citation for that "hate speech" assertion?
Okay, I am gonna make you the same offer I made the last retard I met.
Get your arse to Scotland and try this shit, I dont know nor care where the fuck you come from, but in Scotland, free speech is a right that is central in society.
THAT MEANS WE CAN SAY SHIT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH, AND YOU CAN'T DO A FUCKING THING ABOUT IT.
Always remember, Opinion =/= fact, Opinion about religion =/= hate speech. Opinion about you = "Fucktard"
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So people have a right to be religious bigots and to multipost that on the Internet? Hmm, interesting theory when the laws are written for people who signed their names to our Constitution and their, even if only metaphorical rather than literal, descendants.
Rights come with group membership. Group membership comes with identifying as a member of a group.
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You, by your dialect, readily identify yourself in ways that out you in lots of various ways, not the least of wish is to chickenshit to sign your words
The reality is that free speech comes at a price and is protected only for those who are willing to die for their beliefs. This is why "rights" should be earned by national service rather than simply conferred upon assholes lucky enough to be born in America and still live here.
"This is why "rights" should be earned by national service rather than simply conferred upon assholes lucky enough to be born in America and still live here."
Oh I love fucktards like you. ^_^
A: I identified myself as Scottish, I am a proud Scotsman, hence identifying with a group.
B: National Service no longer exists in Scotland, however, I may or may not be in the military, you dont know this, therefore you are making an assumption that I am not.
correction, godwins law can only be called if there is NOT a clear connection between the nazi party and the people being pointed out as nazi like. if you would like, i can give you direct links between scientology and the nazi party and even point to where it shows hubbard looked up to hitler.
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More reposting of what can only be now framed as deliberately targeted hate speech which was previously found unsuitable by YouTube.
The question now becomes, precisely why do 'anonyous' as individuals have such issues with rules and laws.
What is the fundamental issue some of these supposed crusaders for "Social Justice" (yeah right) have with rhetoric vs. substance; the objective truth vs. propaganda and flooding the Tubes to do it; and precisely why isn't it being outted more.
It's an opinion, based on documented fact. Hardly "hate speech". One can condemn the Catholic Church's handling of the pedophilia scandal (I do) without hating the Catholic Church (I don't).
The RCC was founded as a religion, generally does good work, and the Priest thing was an aberration.
Scientology was conceived as a corrupt power/money cult by a consummate liar, racist and conman. It has hurt tens of thousands of lives. It can't be condemned adequately.
Do not be so presumptuous as to tell others what they "know," for the purposes of your bullshit rhetoric.
It is my opinion that your bias precludes you as a prospect for a free voice here. Perhaps you'd care to reassess your words? Too bad no one will be around to read them since you've been banhammered.
Not sure what "banhammered" is. Perhaps the voices in your head will one day deign to clue me in.
I will never stop pointing out the egregious crimes and sinister history of this....of your...malicious and hurtful cult. Any reassessment of my words would likely lead to the conclusion that they weren't nearly harsh enough, particularly concerning the psychotic monster LRH.
Hope you've got plans for life after Scientology.
I mean, it's not like there are any other videos here, where people criticize each other due to their religious beliefs. No way. A search for something like "christianity sucks" or "venomfangx is an idiot" doesn't yield any results here, because that would be HATE SPEECH, god forbid!
LMFAO FUCKING HILARIOUS FUCK DarthTrayal STALKER, AND LMFAO AT YOU FIGHTING ON YOUTUBE WITH HIM.
killshitallday 1 year ago
Creepy but not surprising from a cult member who worships as "the ideal indiividual" someone who was a petty thief, a wife beater, a sociopath, a drug addicted rum besotted schitzophrenic, who's mind has been twisted by veneral disease.
Sad and disturbing.
NomenNescioNY 2 years ago
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Yet anonymous are called : Heros Bwhahahaha
GaryTROLL 2 years ago
That problem is every group. Not just Scientology. Mormons will get upset if you say the truth about Joseph Smith too.
TrollsAlliance 2 years ago
the differnece is mormons are real religion scientoligy is a cult
harveydents 2 years ago
Good video, man!
Edwing77 2 years ago
Darth T. clearly has some Issues. *sigh*
AnonyFerret 2 years ago
CREEPY yes, surprising NO
Scientologists are just COWARDS. Their only way to defend their cult is through fear and intimidation of others. I call that PATHETIC and really just the lowest of the low of human behaviour.
rickmojo 2 years ago 2
We can only hope that Darth Tardly isn't actively trying to harass some poor dude named Paul in Wilhemina, Oregon right now.
It would be funny--imagine some guy who isn't even aware of the Anonyous v. Scilon activism going on receiving weird mail from that strange little boy praising LRH and cursing Anonymous--but, as Delany says, it is more creepy than humourous.
It also serves to prove Anon is right: Scientology screws people's heads up. Badly.
AnonyFerret 2 years ago 2
Hey, where did ChristianlySkeptical's comments go? Seems they've all been pulled. That ain't shattering suppression. That ain't confronting the SPs.
I love the smell of tech being squirreled in the morning. Smells like...
The true legacy of LRH and his "Tech": Fraud, dishonesty, greed, and sniveling cowardice. The man died insane, on drugs and on the run from the law. The cult he unleashed on the world will die similarly, perhaps not quietly, but indeed, without sorrow.
Djangeaux 2 years ago 2
good work.
laladiel 2 years ago 3
I concur :)
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 2
ok darthrayal is an idiot that i knew already
i also knew that crazy would actually a nice word to describe him unti now.
but this measure is just mind blowing
SteilAmSeil 2 years ago 2
Delaney: too bad you got caught in the headlights of CS's insanity, apparently her (self-disclosed) psych intervention and therapy is taking a while to work.
Thanks for your contribution to the cause, even if you do talk too much lol :)
anynymys 2 years ago 8
WOW, Interesting comm cycle, ChristianlySkeptical calls "ME' a troll (by PM naturally) and skitters away. Yet no one has answered the original question ....
What, about this specific video
(Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal) could be construed as "hate speech"
ANYBODY ?
Darthtrayal said if your going to make an assertion/accusation (such as hate speech) then you better have the facts to back it up and I agree with him.......
Librarian62 2 years ago 3
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Scientologists lrnquick, amirite?
Jessica Ann Chandler, MSW
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
You want to get in contact with Scientologists on your channel, right?
How come there is not a single Scientologist, who has commented on your channel yet?
Seems like even Scientologists think you are batshit insane and don't want to have anything to do with you or your "professional" social work.
In the eye of Scientologists, you are nothing than an aberrated person full of nasty engrams, who should be either raised on the tone scale or disposed of quietly and without sorrow.
exfalsoquodlibet 2 years ago 4
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Because at this point they don't give enough of a shite. That's ok. Either way the effort was made and if and when I walk away with a book, if you all kill one another it won't come back to haunt me and on the day of the next death under strange circumstances like Mario Majorski, the right people willa) ask the right questions of ALL SIDES, b) buy the book, and c) enrich me.
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
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I believe the reckless actions taken by both sides will end badly. The potential exists for this to become, as a result of ratcheted up pressure, far bigger than Waco or Jonestown.
If it does, then on your heads be it too, where it belongs.
Jessica Ann Chandler, MSW
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
What's the matter Joseph? Cat got your tongue? Transfixed by a shiny spot on the floor? OMG ARE THE HELICOPTERS BACK?
LOL - YOU IDIOT.
storagefacility3 2 years ago
So your particular brand of "social justice" is all about you getting rich. You don't give a rat's ass about anybody or anything but yourself you lying piece of crud. All this is a farce for attention.
You would probably walk over the corpse of a dead maori tribesman for a quarter, you transparent fuck.
storagefacility3 2 years ago
Effective critique is effective.....
Librarian62 2 years ago 2
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Repeating it or "mirroring" it may however be hate speech.
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Repeating something is hate speech? Are you serious?
What about his (Delanys) post is hate speech ?
Can you tell us what is hateful about it without the misdirect of "repeating/mirroring " or insulting anyone who questions your self appointed authority?
Everything you say is some kind of misdirection or insult.
As darthtrayal would ask of anonymous ,
specifics please....
Librarian62 2 years ago 3
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If you bothered to watch my videos as well, you would easily come to realize that CD's extremism goes beyond reason. I quite comprehend people's "concers" (being diplomatic here - people should try it.. it avoids Jonestowns!).
I'm sick of CrazyDelaney posting things or sending emails which invoke Godwin's so often it makes me grind my teeth. This is not acceptable, and it becomes more so when it is repeated so often by mirrors as to become hateful speech.
Jessica Ann Chandler, MSW
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Thank you for proving my point. You cannot even begin to offer one specific example of why this specific video ( Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal ) is hate speech.
I have not heard him invoke Goodwin's (Law) here. Why can't you address what he actually says ......
Librarian62 2 years ago 4
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Watch my videos you stupid _____ (insert appropriate epithet here).
I won't keep pointing you to the water if you aren't going to drink. His video sparked a very long flurry of email exchange which revealed his belief that Scientologists must be stopped, like "Neo-Nazis," at any and all costs.
He is too _____! (again insert whatever pleases you "clueless _____ " (hope all speak 'anon' or come from a culture as offensive to fill that one).
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Anyhooo
The question remains ..
What can you cite from this specific video (Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal) as hate speech, which is what you initially declared.
Please be specific or I will only assume (As Darth would say) your pulling this stuff out of your ass. And yes I have seen your tedious and pedantic videos....
Librarian62 2 years ago 3
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Get new glasses. Darth is wisely learned to stfu apparently. lrn2deweydecimal, clearly you need help and looking up self-help books might help.
"Have you yet read Dianetics?" You have fixed delusions or very very poor eyesight.
"ARC"
JAC, MSW
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Yes, I have read "Dianetics", I put it in the library collection to begin with , along with new copies of about 4 or 5 other "basic" Scientology books and the DVD "An Introduction to Scientology".
They are as coherent and logical as your last post.
So you can't actually say why this specific video (Exposing the Creepy Behavior of Scientologist DarthTrayal) is hate speech, is that correct ?
Librarian62 2 years ago
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I judge the video and an accompany commentary offered by CD which were sent to me when I opened a comm line with him (roflmao - ooooh she spoke Sci, must be OSA amirite?). The email, one in particular, is exposed in my videos. That again, you fail to watch in wide screen or to wait for payoffs, I assume you're literate as you can type.
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Yes, I can see how someone saying
"Free speech is not an option" could be construed as hateful.
Clearly Crazy Delany is threatening and must be stopped.
waiting for your next ad hominid screed ........
Librarian62 2 years ago 4
hahahahahahahaha
ClingingMars 2 years ago 4
So, you're admitting you can't back up your "hate speech" assertion.
Typical.
Hope you've got a plan for after the cult falls. It's going to be a cold winter....
Djangeaux 2 years ago 4
I have read dianetics about 20 years ago. I remember that he seems to place a lot of attention on what babies hear in the womb. He goes on to speak about botched attempts at abortion, and the scars that leaves on them as adults.
Coincedentally, Ron jr(LRH's son) says he witnessed LRH sitting on top of his mother with a coat hanger, giving her an abortion. he was about 8 years old.
It sounds like LRH was speaking from personal experience when he wrote dianetics.
SAINTNIKE 2 years ago
blah blah blah i'm a troll
ClingingMars 2 years ago 4
So, no specific response to Librarian62's request for a specific citation for your "hate speech" assertion.
If you're the best OSA's got, $cientology is truly screwed. Hope you've got a plan for life after the fall. Heating grates are going to be overbooked next winter. If you're lucky, you've got family you can reconnect with.
Djangeaux 2 years ago 4
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Apparently the two of you need reading glasses. You will be ignored as well for your illiteracy.
Jessica Ann Chandler, MSW
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Apparently, the 2 of us hit a nerve, and we'll be ignored because we're pointing out your steaming pile of hypocrisy.
You're admitting you can't point out any instance of hate speech in the above video, and are running away. Typical. Glad we're done. I enjoy winning.
You can run from us, but you can't run from reality. The Co$ is tumbling down. The real world beckons. Hope you're ready...
Djangeaux 2 years ago 4
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Either way, your homepage on YouTube gets to be a part of herstory and his. In fact, you and your librarian friend get to be the examples of how 'critics' abuse comments in order to promote a false reality of benign appearance and a Constitutional agenda. As we both realize, 'critics' of Scientology are little better than Scientologists themselves looking to re-establish what they lost in the past.
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
"Either way, your homepage on YouTube gets to be a part of herstory ".
Wow, that'll sure show me. Why, I'm gonna have to totally rethink my entire approach. You've really shown me the light there, CS! Think I'll head down to my local org...if I can get half as enlightened as yourself, it'll sure be worth the measly $350,000 they'll charge!
Meanwhile, how 'bout a citation for that "hate speech" assertion?
Djangeaux 2 years ago 2
'Scuse me mate, you appear to have missed the point by a long shot.
Where the hell does ths contain hate speech, or even incitement to hate?
BRB, Mirroring.
Snipercam7 2 years ago 4
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I'm addressing the fact that the man overdisclosed his views to the point of religious bigotry and hate speech.
The proof is out there. All that is required is for you to not be stupider than you already seem to be.
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Okay, I am gonna make you the same offer I made the last retard I met.
Get your arse to Scotland and try this shit, I dont know nor care where the fuck you come from, but in Scotland, free speech is a right that is central in society.
THAT MEANS WE CAN SAY SHIT THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH, AND YOU CAN'T DO A FUCKING THING ABOUT IT.
Always remember, Opinion =/= fact, Opinion about religion =/= hate speech. Opinion about you = "Fucktard"
Snipercam7 2 years ago 8
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So people have a right to be religious bigots and to multipost that on the Internet? Hmm, interesting theory when the laws are written for people who signed their names to our Constitution and their, even if only metaphorical rather than literal, descendants.
Rights come with group membership. Group membership comes with identifying as a member of a group.
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
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You, by your dialect, readily identify yourself in ways that out you in lots of various ways, not the least of wish is to chickenshit to sign your words
The reality is that free speech comes at a price and is protected only for those who are willing to die for their beliefs. This is why "rights" should be earned by national service rather than simply conferred upon assholes lucky enough to be born in America and still live here.
Jessica Ann Chandler, MSW.
JAC, MSW
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
"This is why "rights" should be earned by national service rather than simply conferred upon assholes lucky enough to be born in America and still live here."
Oh I love fucktards like you. ^_^
A: I identified myself as Scottish, I am a proud Scotsman, hence identifying with a group.
B: National Service no longer exists in Scotland, however, I may or may not be in the military, you dont know this, therefore you are making an assumption that I am not.
Snipercam7 2 years ago 6
that sounds like hate speech against people who did not serve in the military. your a bigot against pacifists.
laladiel 2 years ago
so your against the right of free speech?
laladiel 2 years ago
BE FUCKING CAREFUL PLEASE Sniper :)
DoubleKarma77 2 years ago 2
She's insane. nuts. don't waste your time, man.
ClingingMars 2 years ago 3
well said.
laladiel 2 years ago
Go you Sniper
DoubleKarma77 2 years ago
correction, godwins law can only be called if there is NOT a clear connection between the nazi party and the people being pointed out as nazi like. if you would like, i can give you direct links between scientology and the nazi party and even point to where it shows hubbard looked up to hitler.
laladiel 2 years ago 3
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More reposting of what can only be now framed as deliberately targeted hate speech which was previously found unsuitable by YouTube.
The question now becomes, precisely why do 'anonyous' as individuals have such issues with rules and laws.
What is the fundamental issue some of these supposed crusaders for "Social Justice" (yeah right) have with rhetoric vs. substance; the objective truth vs. propaganda and flooding the Tubes to do it; and precisely why isn't it being outted more.
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
It's an opinion, based on documented fact. Hardly "hate speech". One can condemn the Catholic Church's handling of the pedophilia scandal (I do) without hating the Catholic Church (I don't).
The RCC was founded as a religion, generally does good work, and the Priest thing was an aberration.
Scientology was conceived as a corrupt power/money cult by a consummate liar, racist and conman. It has hurt tens of thousands of lives. It can't be condemned adequately.
But you know that.
Djangeaux 2 years ago 5
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Do not be so presumptuous as to tell others what they "know," for the purposes of your bullshit rhetoric.
It is my opinion that your bias precludes you as a prospect for a free voice here. Perhaps you'd care to reassess your words? Too bad no one will be around to read them since you've been banhammered.
Jessica Ann Chandler, MSW
ChristianlySkeptical 2 years ago
Not sure what "banhammered" is. Perhaps the voices in your head will one day deign to clue me in.
I will never stop pointing out the egregious crimes and sinister history of this....of your...malicious and hurtful cult. Any reassessment of my words would likely lead to the conclusion that they weren't nearly harsh enough, particularly concerning the psychotic monster LRH.
Hope you've got plans for life after Scientology.
Djangeaux 2 years ago 3
Totally unprecedented on YouTube, yes.
I mean, it's not like there are any other videos here, where people criticize each other due to their religious beliefs. No way. A search for something like "christianity sucks" or "venomfangx is an idiot" doesn't yield any results here, because that would be HATE SPEECH, god forbid!
exfalsoquodlibet 2 years ago 2