they could also introduce a sort of 'bonus' round. A team can decide to play a bonus round in which they get 5k. Only 1 bonus can be used during a match.
This could result in better & unexpected comebacks.
I think he's got a point, although I disagree with the 16k every round. There is an element of competitiveness that arises from the player that knows how to deal with less money and still perform. However, with highly skilled players, 9 times out of 10 when there's a face off between a save-round glock versus a bought-up M4, the M4 is going to win. Thus it is practical to create a money system where more money is given to the loss-round team. So I partially agree here.
@djdeadforce Generally true! You're right, there are people who know how to deal with a money restricted system, by buying cheaper weapons and getting really good with them. On CS I just bought Desert Eagles and MP5s and started learning to get headshots :)
@snois2 in small maps like cs_office an mp5 and deagle has a pretty devastating effect on the enemies, lol; I love messing around with weapons including pump-action shotgun and scout, and I like to get really good with the 'crappy' weapons. I do use other automatic rifles like the m4a1 and ak47 in larger maps like de_dust :)
@jhforsyth there's pro 1.6 players who has played cod4, mainly swedish and germans. Cod4 doesn't require as much skill as cs, but saying it doesn't at all is bullshit. I've played at a pretty high level in cod4, also active in cs and quake. Cod4 is the most skill demanding ''RELATIVLY NEW'' game, you can't compare games today with quake and cs from the 90's lol, they will always be on top. Pm me if you're keen on a game against my team then so 13-0 speaks for itself regarding skill :)
He has got a point, this money system doesnt do the possibility to see so much amazing rounds from the top players as we could see with some better money system. Offcourse 16k every round is not the best option, but, if they could win some more money per loss round, maybe they will show us more amazing rounds that we realy like!!
This Guy has got an extremely good point, his money system will make weaker teams, with one star player, shine alot, being able to do these crazy situations, and it will be easier to see who is on a different level in a team, where its harder to spot with the current money system, however ofc, some tactical aspects will disappear, thou i really find it hilarious when teams win on an eco XD
this is crap. money system in cs is pretty nice, for example in CoD or something you have gun in EVERY round and thats about it, its boring. With this money system the ninja defuse will be not able to do so often. You need teamplay, and brain to decide, when you team will be saveing guns for next round. I dont get this, why should they change money system...
One last thing, the guy on the left is a completely retarded noob, he's just asking complete irrelevant questions; "would not then just have COD4?," "visual effects such as graphics aren't important?" or "would you not go with Source?".
I mean, come on; you can clearly see he wants to bring forth his point that all XeqtR is thinking about is changing 1.6 to every other new braindead games packful with eyecandy and whatnot.
Which OBVIOUSLY isn't his point, you friggin' douchebag!
To keep the money system balanced, would be that you only get half of what you've used the next round.
That means, if you used 700 the 1st round, you'll get 350 + what you had left and from the usual money system.
But you only benefit from this in the losing rounds and the first winning round, so if you win twice in a row, the second win round would be as it is now.
Though there's also max. limit of how much you can get the next round, that is 5000, which is the maximum you can get as of today.
XeqtR is really onto something, because of the money system the game isn't as fast-paced as it should be.
His proposals aren't as well thought out, but I don't think that was his intention either.
One should always go in plus every round; say you have 1400, then even though you used those money, you will have 1400 + the money you get the next round.
Everything else in the money system; losing streaks, plant/defuse and so forth are kept the same.
i just like cod4 more, but admit cod4 has a lot of bs like having more bullets per second when you are on 250fps. just having a good config witha lot of cheater binds is half the work
in cs u have to worry about your movements, your recoil control, im not saying cod4 takes no skill or anything. last time i checked tho u cant just jump and snipe someone while being in the air.. like u can in fucken cod4 lawl. my opinion doesn't matter, but when it comes to smarts i think cs requires way more thinking.
if only bad players play cod4, then I challenge a top cs team to dominate cod4. It would only do us good to learn with the masters, no? And it would be like a walk in the park for them, right?
The non korian is right. This coming from a cod4 player. If you take the money system from cs, you make cs become even closer (they are already close) to cod4. The only differences then would be, the maps (cod4 maps are much more complex and detailed), the recoil, and certain movement/engine stuff that is minor (like running, jumping, weapon switching, etc.)
And also, there are VERY skilled players in cod4. But the fact is, cs players train their game much more, they are professionals.
cod4 is for bad players, clearly. CSS is shit in my opinion and cod4 is one of the best FPS shooters (promod).But other people might think differently. Its someones opinion but i wouldnt say CSS is full of bad players as it takes skill, and so does cod! show respect for PC gamers
everyone loves the game they came into, if people had come in later to vcod/cod2 they'd love that, some cod4, some cs/css, some tf2 .. he made the comment ages ago but for people now to suggest OMG ONLY PRO IN CS .. so what are sc2 players bad? what about Quake players? so narrow minded but then being from 1.6 you're used to making a million excuses to stay on the only game you know how to play. "hurr i cant aim but i can hold left click in corridors to make frag movies" come at me bros!
@roy3447 there is no strategy involved only abuses.. you always see good team loosing for rdm lost round and then it gets boring to see lucky teams getting to the finals.. this guy is damn right but 2 years after nothing's changed. and there is no strategy involved, just geeking and finding abuse to win the game
Buy one gun (AK OR M4) per half. At least with the current system you get to see the deagle, famas, sometimes even an MP5 as well as the two main rifles which everyone uses.
On the other hand, an advantage of the current system is for exactly the same reason, some rounds are WAY more important than other rounds and both teams know this! You get to see the top players in the world showing their skills under high pressure.
Also, to be honest I think giving each team $16k would kill the game, would it be fun watching Markelloff using the AWP EVERY round? Lets be honest the game doesnt have a whole lot of weapon variety as it is, (its common to see some players only
@Crebralassassin The thing is that if you take the two best teams in the world they're both as likely to win an important round as an unimportant round, that makes the game random. I've seen so many games between top teams where they both win almost or the exact same amount of weapon rounds but one team still wins fairly convincingly.
@teooo I strongly disagree with you, no 1 the greatest players tend to win the biggest games, thats why they are the greatest players 2 show me a match where one team won the same amount of gun rounds as the other team but dominated the match, I want to see it!
@Crebralassassin You don't need to give everyone 16k but you do need to change the system a bit because it's not balanced properly. T get more money than CT but their guns cost less and they don't need a kit.
If you're on a losing streak and get 3.4k win a round, then lose another you're down to 1.5k, it's stupid. And after that you can only go up to 3k. It would be better if for every round won the money you get for losing a a round decreases instead of resetting.
@teooo Of course T get more money than CT! Thats because CT have an inherent advantage, the T's need to plant the bomb or else they lose by default (unless they kill all the CT's) and even once the T's plant the bomb, the CT's can defuse it and win the match. T need an advantage to make the game interesting. When, you say losing streak, thats a 6 game losing streak your talking about, if you lose 6 games in a row your going to lose the match anyway, so its irrelevant what happens.
@Crebralassassin So if you're losing and getting 3.4k, win 2 rounds, then lose again you get 2.4k, instead of the 1.5 you get now. Also, CTs should straight up get more money, either all rounds or if they prevent T from planting (just like T get +800 for planting). 3250 is barely enough for a colt.
@teooo As I have said before the reason CT's get less money and have more expensive equipment is to compensate for the fact they get to camp, which gives them a big advantage, even with the USP being waay better than the glock and the colt being preferred by most players to the AK, you still see many T dominated matches,. proving the game works fine as it is.
I mean its generally not much fun watching 2 CT's with USP's go against 5 T's with AK's because they will lose almost every single time.
On the other hand, you always have the option of trying a dego, and since your at a disadvantage this makes it really fun and exciting when saving teams win. In my opinion more deco's should be tried, because of the imbalanced deagle, but thats a different story.
A negative aspct of the current system is that the initial pistol round has too much importance, in my opinion. The team that wins the first pistol round almost always wins the next round, and if they win the next gun round, then they have a great chance of winning the whole half, and in a game with 16 rounds, to have two rounds where the teams are equal deciding the whole game is arguably unfair.
@faakyou Basicly, a shootout is almost always a 1v1 at some aim_map.(can be a 2v2 but this rarely happens) Were the dudes battle it out with their aim.
So you agreed on both my points :) I think xeqtr is getting scared of the newstyle cs. Yeah he's still awesome, but once the newage players came out (f0rest,GeT_RiGhT,pita,moddii etc) i know some of them are oldschool but xeqtr is basicly trying to turn cs into quake.
Yes, xeqtr has got a point. Although, i also think the money system is perfect as it is now. I mean, if we wanted to watch individual players kick eachother's asses at aiming then we would watch a shootout. It's all about watching the team as a whole. Ok so they lost the pistol round, lets see if they can do anything about it. Thats the most interesting part in my opinion! Peace
@TommyPish I agree...as for when he says about losing an important round randomly and getting money fucked could cost you the match...well thats the way it goes man. Those important rounds are usually intense and it's awesome to see if people can come back from losing them by winning on a save round and shit.
What would be cool is random amounts of money every round...so maybe you will have a couple pistol rounds and actually have to strategize what you buy
Xeqtr is like the best player of all time... He's one of the few players to help his teams to CPL, WEG, and ESWC titles. XeqtR's teams have taken first place in tournaments a total of thirteen times, including a Clanbase EuroCup championship in 2003 with eoLithic. So he knows whats up, I can definitely see his point of view.
wtf is xeqtr saying, what about those players who win eco rounds being deagle 1vs5 ak's or whatever, that's even more impressive and intense to watch! so with all my respect.. stfu.
like xeqtr said ..its ll about what the top player want
the top players want to play 1.6
but the top playr also dont want to change the money sistem...
u see xeqtr ...ur not playing the game anymore ..its not even ur right to suggest changes ..as much as i respect xeqtr i think hes smoking waaaay to much crack :D
i think its better than the player cant "show their skillz" every round ..
the money sistem ....however old it is ...even if it wasnt ment to be made for a competitive game ...is perfect
the money sistem brings balance to the game ...if u remove the money sistem ..all ur left with is recoil ..all the players will learn shooting instead of tactics..
sure sounds crazy... but still a nice idea... imagine: 15rounds with 2 x 5 cts / ts ( full equiped ) every round would have so much action and would become more tactic-depth 2 get / save spots... it would increace the need of training and teamplay, too.... think it would be very funny ;)
I don't agree with him on the money system. If you removes the money system, there is no need for money planing, or the gunround for that matter. You'll only run around with the same guns, and if you die, it really has no other consequenses than you maybe loosing one round. If you win the two first rounds now, you set them back maybe for two more rounds, which is 4-0 if you play your cards right.
@NiggvaR Where's he at right now? Where is XEQTR? Not that far anymore, that's for sure, so I stick by my word. And how does me telling him he's lost it make me have to L2P? 16k every round would just make it another public server, only with a password.
I've played several of the CoD games at WCG tournaments. Won several games over the years, but compared to Counter-Strike, Call of Duty's system of combat is easier than CS 1.6's way of gameplay. They're both great games, but when you're looking into the skill proportion of the two games, Counter-Strike has been voted by a majority of gamers to be the harder type of game.
I really don't care about the spectators. The specs that watch CS right now do not complain about it being too slow. The money system is already perfect, it's been changed from how it was in 1.5 and early 1.6, the roundtimer went from 3:00 minutes in 2002/2003 to something like 1:30 in most tournaments today. It's about as fast as you need it to go already. Sure, people who don't understand CS will find it more enjoyable but anyone who has played competitively will know 16k for 14 rounds is BS.
Sorry, I respect Xeqtr but I would have to disagree with his idea. CS is what it is because the game is not only about skill but about managing money as a team as well. The economy system is what makes CS truly interesting, because it completely separates it from other FPS's. When one team tries to eliminate the other team because they're running away saving their guns, it's interesting. Hell, mix buys where you trade AK for dgls or winning an eco round using interesting strategy is fun to watch
@wngo70 i might get bashed here but ... cs1.6 is imo still one of the most intense skilled based games out there, if not nr1 .. even though it's old, a lot of people kept playing it, thus making the community in general very hard to compete with, for let's say a beginner. !!!! imo !!!!
It's a great idea. If Counter Strike wants to become a spectator-friendly and become a HUGE thing where players' could make guaranteed $100k+ every year, things need to change.
What if a world team picks the 5 best awp players in the world and they're against a standart team ?And they play train like the 5 dudes would rarely miss as CT and it'll be an easy and pretty boring win, don't you think?The magic of the game would disappear.
are you stupid? awp requires massive skill, and if a team got only awp players in high level they will lose for sure, 1 or maybe max 2 on each team would be viable.
totally agree, because in world championships where are profesional teams so they dont make a huge mistakes and beat enemy with pistol when enemy have m4a1 or ak47...
my opinion would be this: Make eco round every fourth round :) and other rounds should start with 16000$ pocket :)
wtf? no, man. there is an advantage for the team who wins the round. one of them is the money. you have to know how to administrate your money and doing pistol rounds when you need it. it's part of the game.
It's all puny kids who play it simply because their pre school friends talk about it all the time because they feel badass for rebelling against their parents and playing a mature game ROfl.
Cod4 is Pure pattern abuse, no skill.
All it is, is memorizing spawnpoints and camping where you know some unlucky bastard is going to be.
When I played this, even for a few hours I could already predict my enemies just by the spawn system alone, easy game.
@godly04 cool! now get your dick out your mouth dickhead and get a girlfriend. i play cod and needless to say atleast we can aim through the fucking iron sight you asshole. and i dont think im bad ass.. i play and i dont rebel against my parents.. saying that seriously proves nothing other than you are going to be a virgin most of your life.
@godly04 counter strike is way easier idiot. i never get owned in counterstrike. the sound is awfull, its a totally shitty game. Move on. stop hanging around the gay, 1990 games.
all you guys commenting this are just a bunch of seriously fucked up kids... XeqtR is right about most stuff he says but you are just afraid of new changes
bullshit... money system leads to some amazing strats when a teams has to save. Having Neo or anyone else raping with an ak in a 4 vs 1 situation is as good to watch as having him owning up with a usp when his team is on a save round. If it wasn't for the money system then there wouldn't be those ninja defuses. There would not be those great setups and rush strats of the teams that have to save or exit frags... money system is not a simple thing and often leads to spectacular moments. My 2 cents
I think it would ruin the game a bit :/ Eco rounds are exciting :D!
zilent4win 4 months ago
they could also introduce a sort of 'bonus' round. A team can decide to play a bonus round in which they get 5k. Only 1 bonus can be used during a match.
This could result in better & unexpected comebacks.
smittieh 7 months ago
IEM CSS!!!
MrBuschkaka 7 months ago
I think he's got a point, although I disagree with the 16k every round. There is an element of competitiveness that arises from the player that knows how to deal with less money and still perform. However, with highly skilled players, 9 times out of 10 when there's a face off between a save-round glock versus a bought-up M4, the M4 is going to win. Thus it is practical to create a money system where more money is given to the loss-round team. So I partially agree here.
djdeadforce 7 months ago
@djdeadforce Generally true! You're right, there are people who know how to deal with a money restricted system, by buying cheaper weapons and getting really good with them. On CS I just bought Desert Eagles and MP5s and started learning to get headshots :)
uberduke 5 months ago
@uberduke mp5 and deagle might work in public but no fucking chance in competitive bro
snois2 3 weeks ago
@snois2 in small maps like cs_office an mp5 and deagle has a pretty devastating effect on the enemies, lol; I love messing around with weapons including pump-action shotgun and scout, and I like to get really good with the 'crappy' weapons. I do use other automatic rifles like the m4a1 and ak47 in larger maps like de_dust :)
uberduke 3 weeks ago
@uberduke well u never play cs_office competively
snois2 3 weeks ago
biggest crap i've ever heard..
avovalicious 7 months ago
so true
Linken1212 7 months ago
He's right :P
jackkass33 7 months ago
Whether or not you agree with XeqtR on the money system or not, let's all just agree on one thing:
only bad players play cod4
jhforsyth 8 months ago 27
@jhforsyth there's pro 1.6 players who has played cod4, mainly swedish and germans. Cod4 doesn't require as much skill as cs, but saying it doesn't at all is bullshit. I've played at a pretty high level in cod4, also active in cs and quake. Cod4 is the most skill demanding ''RELATIVLY NEW'' game, you can't compare games today with quake and cs from the 90's lol, they will always be on top. Pm me if you're keen on a game against my team then so 13-0 speaks for itself regarding skill :)
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nikefreak01 8 months ago
to easy no tactic... no thinking.. too simple
nesaTajkun 8 months ago 5
im all for it
TBDcsProductions 9 months ago
He it isnt so retarded as you think.
He has got a point, this money system doesnt do the possibility to see so much amazing rounds from the top players as we could see with some better money system. Offcourse 16k every round is not the best option, but, if they could win some more money per loss round, maybe they will show us more amazing rounds that we realy like!!
Jcrush3r 9 months ago
Did he say that every round should have 16k in money? O_o
Would be pretty boring I think
BrorsanL 9 months ago
This Guy has got an extremely good point, his money system will make weaker teams, with one star player, shine alot, being able to do these crazy situations, and it will be easier to see who is on a different level in a team, where its harder to spot with the current money system, however ofc, some tactical aspects will disappear, thou i really find it hilarious when teams win on an eco XD
MrAnDEh92 9 months ago
this is crap. money system in cs is pretty nice, for example in CoD or something you have gun in EVERY round and thats about it, its boring. With this money system the ninja defuse will be not able to do so often. You need teamplay, and brain to decide, when you team will be saveing guns for next round. I dont get this, why should they change money system...
styqone 9 months ago
FCKING RETARDED ! EVER DONT CHANGE CS RULES !!!
boskobre 9 months ago
this dude is a fucking idiot
DaphonGaming 9 months ago
that would fuck the tactical aspect of the game :)
DaphonGaming 9 months ago
I say fuck it, let XeqtR change the entire game engine, he knows better, Valve listen to that man!
aim2lex 9 months ago
You do NOT change a fully working classic game. Do NOT. This has been around for so long. Changing it will doom the game itself.
vafaneh 9 months ago 2
AGREED!
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TheJugoslaven 9 months ago
One last thing, the guy on the left is a completely retarded noob, he's just asking complete irrelevant questions; "would not then just have COD4?," "visual effects such as graphics aren't important?" or "would you not go with Source?".
I mean, come on; you can clearly see he wants to bring forth his point that all XeqtR is thinking about is changing 1.6 to every other new braindead games packful with eyecandy and whatnot.
Which OBVIOUSLY isn't his point, you friggin' douchebag!
xzec 9 months ago
To keep the money system balanced, would be that you only get half of what you've used the next round.
That means, if you used 700 the 1st round, you'll get 350 + what you had left and from the usual money system.
But you only benefit from this in the losing rounds and the first winning round, so if you win twice in a row, the second win round would be as it is now.
Though there's also max. limit of how much you can get the next round, that is 5000, which is the maximum you can get as of today.
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xzec 9 months ago
XeqtR is really onto something, because of the money system the game isn't as fast-paced as it should be.
His proposals aren't as well thought out, but I don't think that was his intention either.
One should always go in plus every round; say you have 1400, then even though you used those money, you will have 1400 + the money you get the next round.
Everything else in the money system; losing streaks, plant/defuse and so forth are kept the same.
xzec 9 months ago
i just like cod4 more, but admit cod4 has a lot of bs like having more bullets per second when you are on 250fps. just having a good config witha lot of cheater binds is half the work
zayes28 10 months ago
@zayes28 its the exact same thing in cs 1.6 if not more
snois2 3 weeks ago
i feel him but i think that money strats are also part of cs 1.6
xapeuuu 10 months ago
cod4 and cs 1.6 take a different kind of skill.
Milkshakman 10 months ago
best comment i heard about esport system make xeqtr president of esport
123ugugu 10 months ago
money system has been changed by shaguar lol, a former team mate of xeqtr when he played on NoA, not sure why he said that?
CynicalSpheres 10 months ago
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Gerdovci 10 months ago
/watch?v=mIznLEMqkbU ok never knew this wasnt skill?....
MrrRyo94 10 months ago
@MrrRyo94 U can't compare cs 1.6 skill to cod skill
Gerdovci 10 months ago
in cs u have to worry about your movements, your recoil control, im not saying cod4 takes no skill or anything. last time i checked tho u cant just jump and snipe someone while being in the air.. like u can in fucken cod4 lawl. my opinion doesn't matter, but when it comes to smarts i think cs requires way more thinking.
booper21 10 months ago
@booper21 lmao, u serious? cod4 is alot more about movement.
and the real useful movement in cs 1.6 havent even been discovered yet it seems
snois2 3 weeks ago
fuck off chinesse faggot
ivantomas34 10 months ago
fuck you chinese prick
zauronzux 10 months ago
if only bad players play cod4, then I challenge a top cs team to dominate cod4. It would only do us good to learn with the masters, no? And it would be like a walk in the park for them, right?
zerokiller000 10 months ago
The non korian is right. This coming from a cod4 player. If you take the money system from cs, you make cs become even closer (they are already close) to cod4. The only differences then would be, the maps (cod4 maps are much more complex and detailed), the recoil, and certain movement/engine stuff that is minor (like running, jumping, weapon switching, etc.)
And also, there are VERY skilled players in cod4. But the fact is, cs players train their game much more, they are professionals.
zerokiller000 10 months ago
kill that fag.
there are sick players on both games, just leave everybody in its value...
Jeffrehh 10 months ago
cod4 is for bad players, clearly. CSS is shit in my opinion and cod4 is one of the best FPS shooters (promod).But other people might think differently. Its someones opinion but i wouldnt say CSS is full of bad players as it takes skill, and so does cod! show respect for PC gamers
donkeyboy2k7 10 months ago 2
cod4>cs
GunnuGrewal 10 months ago 2
everyone loves the game they came into, if people had come in later to vcod/cod2 they'd love that, some cod4, some cs/css, some tf2 .. he made the comment ages ago but for people now to suggest OMG ONLY PRO IN CS .. so what are sc2 players bad? what about Quake players? so narrow minded but then being from 1.6 you're used to making a million excuses to stay on the only game you know how to play. "hurr i cant aim but i can hold left click in corridors to make frag movies" come at me bros!
shaunstrachan 10 months ago 2
XeqtR <3 U have 100 % right
guyfjhbkjbkjnbkl 11 months ago
@guyfjhbkjbkjnbkl he has a shit ego and knows nothing
DannyFoxcroft 10 months ago
xeqtr looks like Han from 2fast 2furious tokyo drift :):)
GamersXStudios 11 months ago
@GamersXStudios that's exactly what I thought!
BeBarnee 11 months ago
like Xeqtr said why to play cs:source when best players plays 1.6 true true source sucks
uLise4Life 1 year ago
Why the fuck would making the money system different attract more players? Why dont you start playing a game that has some 2008+ graphics.
adney93 1 year ago
@adney93 its not the graphics that makes CS what it is, its the gameplay, and you cant argue on that :)
sicksadserious 1 year ago 3
this guy is a genius
JamesStone89 1 year ago 32
i dont agree.. screws up the money system and strategy involved..
roy3447 1 year ago 2
@roy3447 there is no strategy involved only abuses.. you always see good team loosing for rdm lost round and then it gets boring to see lucky teams getting to the finals.. this guy is damn right but 2 years after nothing's changed. and there is no strategy involved, just geeking and finding abuse to win the game
bLast1794 1 year ago
was in a cab with u 5 min ago u dirty fuckar! <3 from horten
mrkekerbatti 1 year ago
Buy one gun (AK OR M4) per half. At least with the current system you get to see the deagle, famas, sometimes even an MP5 as well as the two main rifles which everyone uses.
Crebralassassin 1 year ago
On the other hand, an advantage of the current system is for exactly the same reason, some rounds are WAY more important than other rounds and both teams know this! You get to see the top players in the world showing their skills under high pressure.
Also, to be honest I think giving each team $16k would kill the game, would it be fun watching Markelloff using the AWP EVERY round? Lets be honest the game doesnt have a whole lot of weapon variety as it is, (its common to see some players only
Crebralassassin 1 year ago
@Crebralassassin The thing is that if you take the two best teams in the world they're both as likely to win an important round as an unimportant round, that makes the game random. I've seen so many games between top teams where they both win almost or the exact same amount of weapon rounds but one team still wins fairly convincingly.
teooo 1 year ago
@teooo I strongly disagree with you, no 1 the greatest players tend to win the biggest games, thats why they are the greatest players 2 show me a match where one team won the same amount of gun rounds as the other team but dominated the match, I want to see it!
Crebralassassin 1 year ago
@Crebralassassin You don't need to give everyone 16k but you do need to change the system a bit because it's not balanced properly. T get more money than CT but their guns cost less and they don't need a kit.
If you're on a losing streak and get 3.4k win a round, then lose another you're down to 1.5k, it's stupid. And after that you can only go up to 3k. It would be better if for every round won the money you get for losing a a round decreases instead of resetting.
teooo 1 year ago
@teooo Of course T get more money than CT! Thats because CT have an inherent advantage, the T's need to plant the bomb or else they lose by default (unless they kill all the CT's) and even once the T's plant the bomb, the CT's can defuse it and win the match. T need an advantage to make the game interesting. When, you say losing streak, thats a 6 game losing streak your talking about, if you lose 6 games in a row your going to lose the match anyway, so its irrelevant what happens.
Crebralassassin 1 year ago
@Crebralassassin So if you're losing and getting 3.4k, win 2 rounds, then lose again you get 2.4k, instead of the 1.5 you get now. Also, CTs should straight up get more money, either all rounds or if they prevent T from planting (just like T get +800 for planting). 3250 is barely enough for a colt.
teooo 1 year ago
@teooo As I have said before the reason CT's get less money and have more expensive equipment is to compensate for the fact they get to camp, which gives them a big advantage, even with the USP being waay better than the glock and the colt being preferred by most players to the AK, you still see many T dominated matches,. proving the game works fine as it is.
Crebralassassin 1 year ago
I mean its generally not much fun watching 2 CT's with USP's go against 5 T's with AK's because they will lose almost every single time.
On the other hand, you always have the option of trying a dego, and since your at a disadvantage this makes it really fun and exciting when saving teams win. In my opinion more deco's should be tried, because of the imbalanced deagle, but thats a different story.
Crebralassassin 1 year ago
I see pro's and cons of the current system,
A negative aspct of the current system is that the initial pistol round has too much importance, in my opinion. The team that wins the first pistol round almost always wins the next round, and if they win the next gun round, then they have a great chance of winning the whole half, and in a game with 16 rounds, to have two rounds where the teams are equal deciding the whole game is arguably unfair.
Crebralassassin 1 year ago
gargage! Mw2 or Halo
ivelocityi 1 year ago
all players for cs 1.6 play cod4
fitnesco 1 year ago
@faakyou Basicly, a shootout is almost always a 1v1 at some aim_map.(can be a 2v2 but this rarely happens) Were the dudes battle it out with their aim.
So you agreed on both my points :) I think xeqtr is getting scared of the newstyle cs. Yeah he's still awesome, but once the newage players came out (f0rest,GeT_RiGhT,pita,moddii etc) i know some of them are oldschool but xeqtr is basicly trying to turn cs into quake.
TommyPish 1 year ago
would be interesting tho
keb156kaare 1 year ago
Yes, xeqtr has got a point. Although, i also think the money system is perfect as it is now. I mean, if we wanted to watch individual players kick eachother's asses at aiming then we would watch a shootout. It's all about watching the team as a whole. Ok so they lost the pistol round, lets see if they can do anything about it. Thats the most interesting part in my opinion! Peace
TommyPish 1 year ago 16
@TommyPish I agree...as for when he says about losing an important round randomly and getting money fucked could cost you the match...well thats the way it goes man. Those important rounds are usually intense and it's awesome to see if people can come back from losing them by winning on a save round and shit.
What would be cool is random amounts of money every round...so maybe you will have a couple pistol rounds and actually have to strategize what you buy
jwit0125 1 year ago
he is right but i like the money sistem actually in cs 1.6
rubenlowrecruit 1 year ago
Xeqtr is like the best player of all time... He's one of the few players to help his teams to CPL, WEG, and ESWC titles. XeqtR's teams have taken first place in tournaments a total of thirteen times, including a Clanbase EuroCup championship in 2003 with eoLithic. So he knows whats up, I can definitely see his point of view.
sugarhighwhoo 1 year ago
wtf is xeqtr saying, what about those players who win eco rounds being deagle 1vs5 ak's or whatever, that's even more impressive and intense to watch! so with all my respect.. stfu.
misterdkk 1 year ago
like xeqtr said ..its ll about what the top player want
the top players want to play 1.6
but the top playr also dont want to change the money sistem...
u see xeqtr ...ur not playing the game anymore ..its not even ur right to suggest changes ..as much as i respect xeqtr i think hes smoking waaaay to much crack :D
sidewaysfcs0718 1 year ago
i think its better than the player cant "show their skillz" every round ..
the money sistem ....however old it is ...even if it wasnt ment to be made for a competitive game ...is perfect
the money sistem brings balance to the game ...if u remove the money sistem ..all ur left with is recoil ..all the players will learn shooting instead of tactics..
sidewaysfcs0718 1 year ago
" i don't even play theese new games" .... fail statement !
Chillahhh 1 year ago
@hacme123 his nationality is norwegian, but he is absolutely asian.
sfour 1 year ago
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lol cod4 takes more skill then cs
chimairaxpsycho 1 year ago
@chimairaxpsycho ur so fucking dumb if u think that
z0mg123123 1 year ago
@chimairaxpsycho
yeah ur so right cod 4 takes more skill than cs
thats cs is such a underrated game and cod is played in every tournament there is
wait ...no...
sidewaysfcs0718 1 year ago
hm, whats with CSP?!
T0bbby222 1 year ago
nice idea
Jsavolainen 1 year ago
Norwegian <3
Bernie1337 1 year ago
Such a great guy :) Cheers mate :p
nickyvasic 1 year ago
its only HIS opinion ...
the only way steam will change something in CS is if the entire CS comunity decides
in CGS the game was too simple and too fastpaced for proper play ...it was ment for spectators ...and CGS IS DEAD.
Xeqtr does have some good points ..but overall i dont even think he REALLY wants the money sistem to change .
the money sisted adds to the game ..it adds more strategy and thinking.
sidewaysfcs0718 1 year ago
1.6 will always remain crippled in spectators because not many spectators can handle graphics so primative.
jordcalifornia 1 year ago
xeqtr is basically proposing a CGS type money system
such a bad fucking idea; why the fuck would you take away the epic deagle save rounds and eco sprays
PrescriptionDeath 1 year ago
XeqtR lost his fuckin mind lmao ^^
HanmaDante187 1 year ago
sure sounds crazy... but still a nice idea... imagine: 15rounds with 2 x 5 cts / ts ( full equiped ) every round would have so much action and would become more tactic-depth 2 get / save spots... it would increace the need of training and teamplay, too.... think it would be very funny ;)
torben1988 1 year ago
"because they lost some stupid round because of some random LLLLLuck or whatever" <3
mankan8901 1 year ago
I don't agree with him on the money system. If you removes the money system, there is no need for money planing, or the gunround for that matter. You'll only run around with the same guns, and if you die, it really has no other consequenses than you maybe loosing one round. If you win the two first rounds now, you set them back maybe for two more rounds, which is 4-0 if you play your cards right.
NiggvaR 1 year ago
cs should stay at 800, its the fruit of winning pistol round. its more exciting to see a team of glocks beat a team of m4s than ak vs m4
warilban 1 year ago
Kill money system!!
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dbsarado1 1 year ago
XeqtR has lost it.
He's lost his skill in CS and logic.
He wants to make scrims like a pub ... damn.
LockemShoto 1 year ago
@LockemShoto You should be hanged. L2P.
NiggvaR 1 year ago
@NiggvaR Where's he at right now? Where is XEQTR? Not that far anymore, that's for sure, so I stick by my word. And how does me telling him he's lost it make me have to L2P? 16k every round would just make it another public server, only with a password.
LockemShoto 1 year ago
what a cocky asshole
prefertoxic 1 year ago
i don't like his idea.. its like playing public with tactics then :P
62erPrecision 1 year ago
It will only work if awp is made less accurate. 16k and everybody will be using awp instead of ak or colt.
relevation 1 year ago
no, not in scrims and matchs. True for pubs though
martin24685 1 year ago
ROFL. CoD4 not skill based?
I dare him to play promod with the best teams in the world.
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt 1 year ago
compared to cs, cod 4 requires no skill lol
allan9874 1 year ago 16
I've played several of the CoD games at WCG tournaments. Won several games over the years, but compared to Counter-Strike, Call of Duty's system of combat is easier than CS 1.6's way of gameplay. They're both great games, but when you're looking into the skill proportion of the two games, Counter-Strike has been voted by a majority of gamers to be the harder type of game.
LockemShoto 1 year ago
True cs 1.6 is a game u need to have lots and lots of skill for.
cod u need skill to but as u said cs 1.6 is alot harder
yiri123 1 year ago
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2muchfreetime4irakli 1 year ago
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt 1 year ago
I really don't care about the spectators. The specs that watch CS right now do not complain about it being too slow. The money system is already perfect, it's been changed from how it was in 1.5 and early 1.6, the roundtimer went from 3:00 minutes in 2002/2003 to something like 1:30 in most tournaments today. It's about as fast as you need it to go already. Sure, people who don't understand CS will find it more enjoyable but anyone who has played competitively will know 16k for 14 rounds is BS.
christpunchers 1 year ago
Sorry, I respect Xeqtr but I would have to disagree with his idea. CS is what it is because the game is not only about skill but about managing money as a team as well. The economy system is what makes CS truly interesting, because it completely separates it from other FPS's. When one team tries to eliminate the other team because they're running away saving their guns, it's interesting. Hell, mix buys where you trade AK for dgls or winning an eco round using interesting strategy is fun to watch
christpunchers 1 year ago
Alle vet at Jørgen "XeqtR" Johansen, som spillte for NoA Nip SoA ETC ETC. Er norsk
xelizer 2 years ago
only bad players play cod4 :)
motnahpz 2 years ago 6
"only bad players play cod4" LOLL. I don't like cod4 but when xeqtr said it, that was way too funny.
wngo70 2 years ago 43
@wngo70 i might get bashed here but ... cs1.6 is imo still one of the most intense skilled based games out there, if not nr1 .. even though it's old, a lot of people kept playing it, thus making the community in general very hard to compete with, for let's say a beginner. !!!! imo !!!!
supernubish 2 years ago 2
@supernubish heck yeah 1.6 is the best fps game imo. it is very competitive and requires a very high amount of skill to be good.
wngo70 2 years ago
han jobber på skolen min nå:D jævlig gøy vi gjør aldri en drit i timene
sidebrok123 2 years ago
seriøst? fett :P
1337manz 2 years ago
han e norsk :D
santapain1 2 years ago
ja lol kan høre at han er norsk :p
dragdritt 2 years ago
pengemangel er jo litt a sjarmen med cs:)
SnuFFe1000 2 years ago
maybe u not belive me but he works on my school... in norway
santapain1 2 years ago
Xeqtr is a good player, but his idea is not worth it...
hiwearethemafia 2 years ago 6
It's a great idea. If Counter Strike wants to become a spectator-friendly and become a HUGE thing where players' could make guaranteed $100k+ every year, things need to change.
eXcRaiNmaN 2 years ago 2
no dude, it's stupid.
Do you even play Counter-Strike ?
Seriously I'd puke if they do that to CS.
What if a world team picks the 5 best awp players in the world and they're against a standart team ?And they play train like the 5 dudes would rarely miss as CT and it'll be an easy and pretty boring win, don't you think?The magic of the game would disappear.
hiwearethemafia 2 years ago
are you stupid? no team EVER does that now no matter how much money they have. you're fucking retarded
eXcRaiNmaN 2 years ago
your mom is retarded, fag
you just don't get the point, loser.
go get a life
hiwearethemafia 2 years ago
@hiwearethemafia agree, 1/2 the people will be using AWP.. will be dumb
razattack1337 2 years ago
are you stupid? awp requires massive skill, and if a team got only awp players in high level they will lose for sure, 1 or maybe max 2 on each team would be viable.
1337manz 2 years ago
a asain swede
niggzalex 2 years ago
hes Norwegian...
Jellybell91 2 years ago 2
oh snap
Asain Norwedgeeee
niggzalex 2 years ago
Krilleboy till vänster i början :)
c0nfused1337 2 years ago
maybe ...
sanduelN1 2 years ago
totally agree, because in world championships where are profesional teams so they dont make a huge mistakes and beat enemy with pistol when enemy have m4a1 or ak47...
my opinion would be this: Make eco round every fourth round :) and other rounds should start with 16000$ pocket :)
eazlay 2 years ago
agree 100% =)
guilhermefcs 2 years ago
he's right. of course players don't want any change, but seeing lame save rounds is boring as hell.
ghostpos 2 years ago 4
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swedenboy86 2 years ago
lol fail svenske noob ....
Btk9500 2 years ago
han er norsk...
N0N5T0P 2 years ago
jeg sa det til en annen svensk fyr får 3 ukers siden lol fail noob snakke ikke om xeqtR :D nabb
Btk9500 2 years ago
In source maybe, not in 1.6..
bizz0b 2 years ago
wtf? no, man. there is an advantage for the team who wins the round. one of them is the money. you have to know how to administrate your money and doing pistol rounds when you need it. it's part of the game.
Moraes1995 2 years ago
He's talking from the spectators point of view, not the players.
Lolcopterdude 2 years ago 2
Agree with XeqtR
gaur2k 2 years ago 4
haha, jørgen du er så stygg...
pluciuz1 2 years ago
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EPIC FAIL, FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL :D What an retard.
jahejpadig 2 years ago
god damn right, there could be a limit number of pistol rounds and a number of '16k rounds' too
like 3 pistol rounds and 12 '16k rounds' !
G101993 2 years ago
Why is he touching himself all the time xD
XeqtR0608 2 years ago
he goes on drugssss
GladaBananas 2 years ago
If I was gay I'd fuck xeqtr, his chin could cut diamonds.
toKs1c 2 years ago 5
HAHAHA
meltdown469 2 years ago 3
"why cod4? nobody wants to watch cod4, only bad players play cod4."
Lmao
coleSlawy 2 years ago 8
It's true, only shit players play CoD4.
It's all puny kids who play it simply because their pre school friends talk about it all the time because they feel badass for rebelling against their parents and playing a mature game ROfl.
Cod4 is Pure pattern abuse, no skill.
All it is, is memorizing spawnpoints and camping where you know some unlucky bastard is going to be.
When I played this, even for a few hours I could already predict my enemies just by the spawn system alone, easy game.
godly04 2 years ago 30
@godly04 cool! now get your dick out your mouth dickhead and get a girlfriend. i play cod and needless to say atleast we can aim through the fucking iron sight you asshole. and i dont think im bad ass.. i play and i dont rebel against my parents.. saying that seriously proves nothing other than you are going to be a virgin most of your life.
D4NIBOY 1 year ago
@godly04
No, not If you play other game modes than ffa and others.
I play CoD 4 and some 6(tho I hate it).
I've played a lot of cs and I'm tired of no running/aiming or weapons where more than 3 are the "best".
There is skill in cs, but to say there is no skill in cod is plain retarded.
Please GTFO.
gothikaboy 1 year ago
@godly04 counter strike is way easier idiot. i never get owned in counterstrike. the sound is awfull, its a totally shitty game. Move on. stop hanging around the gay, 1990 games.
adney93 1 year ago
@adney93 thats cus u play on public servers and have no idea what pro gaming is about.
sidewaysfcs0718 1 year ago
@adney93 haha play against professionals you won't be able to get a single kill...
BeBarnee 11 months ago
@godly04 LMAO, u obviously have no clue at all
snois2 3 weeks ago
TosspoT <3
VV1zzz 2 years ago
nah, i dont think his idea is bad at all. I have played both 16k and 800. he has a good point about the spectators and such.
if you say it is not boring to watch, you are talking as a player, not a person that is watching that does not play the game.
he has some good points. i kinda agree with what he is saying.
Nopacs 2 years ago
badly explained
theor14 2 years ago
6:35 intense.. action
CS5n531 2 years ago 2
xeqtr is AWFUL at arguing... he contradicts himself on so many levels, but the point i think he's trying to make it is pretty good.
bodmondude 2 years ago 3
all you guys commenting this are just a bunch of seriously fucked up kids... XeqtR is right about most stuff he says but you are just afraid of new changes
hoflo 2 years ago
u have no idea about cs
neoschneewittchen 2 years ago
bullshit... money system leads to some amazing strats when a teams has to save. Having Neo or anyone else raping with an ak in a 4 vs 1 situation is as good to watch as having him owning up with a usp when his team is on a save round. If it wasn't for the money system then there wouldn't be those ninja defuses. There would not be those great setups and rush strats of the teams that have to save or exit frags... money system is not a simple thing and often leads to spectacular moments. My 2 cents
azaas 2 years ago 3