I liked your responses. Our orders were the same except on #5. I find #3 baffling in that I put it first, just like you, despite that it has no argument. It's an absolute crock, but it at least seems to realize it.
I actually found the #4 argument the least offensive of the bunch.
Sure, it's just an emotional plea with Pascal's wager in all it's disgusting glory, but I still found it to be the least offensive to my intelligence (which isn't saying much, considering that it is in fact Pascal's wager).
The "vulture" you are referring to is my dear mother, speaking about my late grandfather's death in early 2008. Literally. I take no to offense to the comment, this is not about that. I simply want to state that her claim of deathbed conversion was wishful thinking on her behalf. She was not there, I was. I wiped his last tear and, even though I was still a Christian at the time, I saw nothing to indicate that he recanted for his Atheism. He was, and is, an inspiration to this new Atheist.
In #5 I'm surprised to see that you didn't mention "The bible is the most historically accurate book evah" argument.
#6 Good, quoting Einstein, and atheist. Good choice. I think you can prett clearly determine what's bad and suffering. When a child is born with aids, that does without a doubt qualify as bad.
I think #1 was worst. It didn't accomplish anything but waste time.
And I really didn't find any of these arguments offensive. When they tend to go that way it only ends up failing.
Nothing really original about any of the arguments -
They seem to boil down to a few standard assumptions:
1 athiests don't believe in God because they hate him and his rules and they have no love or morals.
2 athiests are just really stupid and are completely misinterpreting the world around them... if they would just accept God, Jesus and the Bible... everything would make so much more sense!
I agree that #3 was the best by far though, from a non-believer's perspective ;)
There is no "argument" against knowledge. Once you know something you can't "unlearn" what you know. Well.. perhaps you could fry your synapses, changing the structure of your brain would be a form of "unlearning" but I'm not a fan of brain damage.
Religion is bunk. Theist who claim to know anything about atheist are lairs. The lies aren't directed at the atheist either.. they are meant to fool the theist. Conversations with delusional people are NOT fun or enlightening.
Christians occasionally try to use the argument that atheism is a religion, while at the same time saying they hate religions, and that Christianity isn't a religion.
Proving 100% that if it's good for an okay sounding argument, getting the definition of 'religion' wrong in several respects to where it means whatever you want it to mean, and stating that if you don't believe in something that suddenly not believing is a belief.
Oh, and that changing the definition of Christianity is okay too.
When I was 16 my best friend died, and some russian pentacostal chick I knew tried to tell me that if I didn't accept jesus into my heart I wouldn't get through it.
Fucking vulture.She's one of the main reasons the god I believe in isn't a caring one.
I thought of you when I read these arguments - a lot of them assume athiests believe something that they don't actually believe, and that's your ultimate peeve it seems P=
Forgot your hatred of philosophy though.
You think the self-loathing of the religious is SUBTLE?
Amazed at how many people found 3 offensive; it was using "this won't work" sarcastically and the 'this is what you should do' is the 'argumnt'
There are no original arguments anymore - just original rebuttles of rebuttles.
I need to re-read 4, I really didn't find it that offensive after the first paragraph, just a pathetic story that hid it's appeal to Pascal.
#1 couldn't have a more appropriate name - surprised no one else feels like bashing the writer with a hammer when they invoke the 'world is so perfect everyone gets where they're going in the journy of life bit, ignoring all suffering in the world then implying athiests have no morals or meaning = maximum offensivne.
just saying and its fact
hitler is a christian and yet he murdered, mercilessly slaughtered more 6 to 10 billion jews and other people mixed in with that population.
NOVAGIRL666 2 years ago
I liked your responses. Our orders were the same except on #5. I find #3 baffling in that I put it first, just like you, despite that it has no argument. It's an absolute crock, but it at least seems to realize it.
kreskinkun 2 years ago
Hey dechha, what do you think about UNFF's arguments?
Ottmar555 2 years ago
I actually found the #4 argument the least offensive of the bunch.
Sure, it's just an emotional plea with Pascal's wager in all it's disgusting glory, but I still found it to be the least offensive to my intelligence (which isn't saying much, considering that it is in fact Pascal's wager).
AndreasNicklasson 2 years ago
The "vulture" you are referring to is my dear mother, speaking about my late grandfather's death in early 2008. Literally. I take no to offense to the comment, this is not about that. I simply want to state that her claim of deathbed conversion was wishful thinking on her behalf. She was not there, I was. I wiped his last tear and, even though I was still a Christian at the time, I saw nothing to indicate that he recanted for his Atheism. He was, and is, an inspiration to this new Atheist.
JezuzFree 2 years ago
Yay! I can watch your videos with no internal pain! Thanks new Graphics Card!
MrPlaid81 2 years ago
My problem with all these is that they assume you left Christianity. I didn't. I was raised without religion, so none of them mean anything to me.
Brianswers 2 years ago
In #5 I'm surprised to see that you didn't mention "The bible is the most historically accurate book evah" argument.
#6 Good, quoting Einstein, and atheist. Good choice. I think you can prett clearly determine what's bad and suffering. When a child is born with aids, that does without a doubt qualify as bad.
I think #1 was worst. It didn't accomplish anything but waste time.
And I really didn't find any of these arguments offensive. When they tend to go that way it only ends up failing.
Juel92 2 years ago
Nothing really original about any of the arguments -
They seem to boil down to a few standard assumptions:
1 athiests don't believe in God because they hate him and his rules and they have no love or morals.
2 athiests are just really stupid and are completely misinterpreting the world around them... if they would just accept God, Jesus and the Bible... everything would make so much more sense!
I agree that #3 was the best by far though, from a non-believer's perspective ;)
TZ3k 2 years ago
There is no "argument" against knowledge. Once you know something you can't "unlearn" what you know. Well.. perhaps you could fry your synapses, changing the structure of your brain would be a form of "unlearning" but I'm not a fan of brain damage.
Religion is bunk. Theist who claim to know anything about atheist are lairs. The lies aren't directed at the atheist either.. they are meant to fool the theist. Conversations with delusional people are NOT fun or enlightening.
btwbrand 2 years ago
@btwbrand "but I'm not a fan of brain damage" But the ones who have it seem to find god more than most people. ;-)
mattyabsley 2 years ago
"What did I write there? Screw it, I'm not editing this."
I summon the spirit of Bill O'Reilly.....
FUCK IT! WE'LL GO LIVE!
Awesome, thorough, and insightful response...
my choices aren't even remotely the same, but that's not a big deal...lol I look forward to your take on my reasoning for why I went the way I did.
KingHeathen 2 years ago 2
Christians occasionally try to use the argument that atheism is a religion, while at the same time saying they hate religions, and that Christianity isn't a religion.
Proving 100% that if it's good for an okay sounding argument, getting the definition of 'religion' wrong in several respects to where it means whatever you want it to mean, and stating that if you don't believe in something that suddenly not believing is a belief.
Oh, and that changing the definition of Christianity is okay too.
sonic8005 2 years ago
When I was 16 my best friend died, and some russian pentacostal chick I knew tried to tell me that if I didn't accept jesus into my heart I wouldn't get through it.
Fucking vulture.She's one of the main reasons the god I believe in isn't a caring one.
WeedGreenPowerRanger 2 years ago
How did you manage to capture a word document so perfectly symmetrical onto a video like this?
bearpaw72 2 years ago
@bearpaw72 CamStudio.
dechha1981 2 years ago
I thought of you when I read these arguments - a lot of them assume athiests believe something that they don't actually believe, and that's your ultimate peeve it seems P=
Forgot your hatred of philosophy though.
You think the self-loathing of the religious is SUBTLE?
Amazed at how many people found 3 offensive; it was using "this won't work" sarcastically and the 'this is what you should do' is the 'argumnt'
There are no original arguments anymore - just original rebuttles of rebuttles.
unassumption 2 years ago
The quote from the book of...palms?
I need to re-read 4, I really didn't find it that offensive after the first paragraph, just a pathetic story that hid it's appeal to Pascal.
#1 couldn't have a more appropriate name - surprised no one else feels like bashing the writer with a hammer when they invoke the 'world is so perfect everyone gets where they're going in the journy of life bit, ignoring all suffering in the world then implying athiests have no morals or meaning = maximum offensivne.
unassumption 2 years ago
@unassumption
Correction; I hate BULLSHIT philosophy, which happens to be most of it.
dechha1981 2 years ago
I tend to consider most pseudo-philosophy =I
unassumption 2 years ago
I wish this error would stop occurring.
PluralOfEverything 2 years ago
@PluralOfEverything pain in the ass.especially if happens over and over again.there is a new happy tree friends that i just can't fuckin whatch.
harkying99 2 years ago