Frist Diagnosing Terry Schiavo on Senate Floor

[WhitusFoggs]

Bill Frist is one of the most terrible people ever. Thanks for hating freedom. Thanks for your work to help kill poker. asshole

[DocWyoming]

Only in America would this much medical attention be given to a woman with no real hope, while children are denied basic medical coverage through denying them universal health care.

[GrassValleyGreg]

@DocWyoming

I like to think of it as many Americans truly think with their hearts... Which of course is the incorrect organ, but mostly well intentioned.

[DocWyoming]

@GrassValleyGreg I don't even know if you can say we are well intentioned - what good intention is met by granting so much attention to a comatose woman? I'd love to see congress meet on a Sunday to talk about healthcare for uninsured children.

[SecularZone]

"small government republicans" = farce

[SoINeedAName48]

Frist - the very worst in physician characteristics:

ARROGANT

PEDANTIC

CONDESCENDING

... and basically an all-round

ASSHOLE

[christinaddesign1]

This was a real shame.. this story truly made me sick that anyone could let this happen.

[GrassValleyGreg]

My favorite part was when the autopsy pretty much line-by-line dismantled his "diagnosis"

[punchachristian1]

this was so fucking bizarre

[EsotericDesi]

It's this stupidity of the Republican Party that caused them to lose big... They really felt public was full of no-brainers... Public's full of selfish assholes, but not idiots when it comes to important issues, such as two wars gone wrong and a crashing economy... which Republicans were responsible...

[whoo689]

These Republicans are heartless, letting her stay in that vegetative state just b/c they thought ending her life and getting her out of that misery was somehow worse. Disgusting. They can't put life and death issues in context.

[ffairlane57]

For Dr. frist to make a diagnosis of someone who was not even directly a patient seems innapropriate.

[burlygurly]

Humans are seperate from animals. But you probably wouldn't even care to hear why I believe so. You've constantly answered my questions with a lot of sarcasm--you obviously think I'm an idiot. But I am a thinking, logical, open-minded human being, just like you. We all must wonder at questions: where did we come from, where're we going, and why are we here?

[jhbbunch]

Unfortunateley, his diagnoses missed the fact that her cerebral cortex was completely gone meaning she could have no thoughts, emotions or feelings of pain. The following a ball back and forth was more the person moving the ball back and forth in time to the autonomic rocking of Teri's head. He missed that too.

The cat-killer should stick to what he's good at, killing cats.

[burlygurly]

Where did you get this info??

[whatiskungfan]

THOSE DAMN LIBERAL JUDGES.....they are going to be judged and punished with eternal flame unless they start reverting back to righteousness.

[manny4life]

wow....4 minutes of footage...so now he's an expert...what a fucking douche.

[burlygurly]

Dude, your comment pretty much makes you appear somewhat less than intelligent. Bill Frist has spoke on this issue a lot more than four minutes. But never mind that. Since your basing expertise on the length of time a person is speaking, how long would you say someone would need to talk on a subject in order to make them an "expert"? Do you see the flawed logic in this?

[manny4life]

dude....why are you responding to a comment that i made over 9 months ago?

[burlygurly]

so, your comment you made 9 mo. ago doesn't reflect your beliefs you hold today, then?

[manny4life]

not really....i've realized that this issue is too complicated on both sides so i just try to avoid judgement now.

[burlygurly]

I see

[SaintHubbins07]

Hey Senator Frist, if I use my webcam to take a picture of my sore knee, could you please tell me if I have patellar tendinitis? Thanks.

[burlygurly]

Come on! He's just asking for a FULL examination of her! How does that make him to be claiming some sort of medical degree??

They were ready to put someone to death by starvation on diagnosis that lacked complete examinations and facts! For heaven's sake, his making a more-than-reasonable request!

[wntoply6]

hey idiot, don't you think she had medical exams over 15 years, plenty of them? what kind of stupid idiot are you? or do you mean conventional doctor examinations are not valid. only exams by born again "christian" doctors over and over again (at least until 1 out of 50 exams might give a hint of suggesting her brain functions) are vaid.

you're one sick dude.

now i suggest you take that cross down and shove it where it belongs...up your stupid born again "christian" ass!

[yannchambrier]

In light of Terri's autopsy, we all know that she suffered from cortical blindness, there was no way she could have responded from any visual stimuli. Those who didn't realize that also suffer from a perculiar form of blindness: the denial of reality.

[yannchambrier]

This is similar to all those douches who challenge evolutionary biologists using scripture.

[burlygurly]

I would challenge evolutionists using the facts of biology itself!

[marx102]

GO ahead. I will challenge your beliefs in a omnipotent benevolent God. THis omnipotent god makes millions of children suffer starvation? This one women is more important than millions of children? Especially since this women was purposely killing herself. Are the third world children purposely killing themselves. Why would god create so much suffering for children? If that is what your god is in favor of then I highly doubt it is worth worshipping because it is an evil god.

[burlygurly]

Where does all the good in the world come from? Evil proves God exists where do we get the concept of evil?

If God Does not exist, OBJECTIVE moral values do not exist. However, Objective moral values DO exist: The man that says raping little children is morally right is just as wrong as the man that says 2+2=4. Where do we get objective moral values? Even Nietzche, who declared God dead, understood that without God, life is meaningless and valueless.

[burlygurly]

God allows people to make choices. The Hutu people of Rwanda went on a 100-day "ethnic cleansing" rampage in 1994, massacring 1,000,000 people belonging to the Tutsi tribe. Because of the war,poverty is rampant, as well as aids and other diseases.HOWEVER, at the same time,there are hundreds of reliefs organizations, many of which are faith-based, established throughout the country, providing nutrition, care, aids-prevention,education, HOPE. Evil exists,but God works through people to bring good.

[burlygurly]

DNA is the most efficient storage system in the universe. It's four-letter chemical alphabet produces the blueprints for the protein asemblies in every cell of your body.

DNA points to an intelligent creator.

The information in DNA can change around and cause variants mutations of a species. HOWEVER, NO NEW INFORMATION CAN EVER BE ADDED TO DNA. This why we see multiple variants of brids, and other animals--this is MICRO evolution, not MACRO Evolution-the changing of one species to another.

[smartincreative]

Why this desperation to prove the validity of your faith? Why do you need proof? Simply accept that what you believe is unprovable and die happy.

[burlygurly]

I am not desperate, the proof is there, buddy. My faith is not blind. I know I will probably not convince you of this, because you are biased, set in your opinion (like everyone). But I am told in the Bible to be ready to give an answer for the hope within me, the reason for my faith.

[burlygurly]

Which, the reason for my faith goes beyond the scientific proof I see. Christ has given me salvation even though I have done nothing to deserve it, I won't ever deserve it. But God has grace and mercy towards me. Romans 5:8 says "But God demonstrates His own love towards us, in that, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." --He died in our place, to take the punishment of sin(But He also overcame death and raised again to prove he was God! 1 Corinthians 15:3-4).

[burlygurly]

I only tell you this because He loves you and offers you this forgiveness, when you trust Him to be your Saviour from sin.

[smartincreative]

gee thanks, but the arrogance you display in assuming I need "saving" is precisely the problem. Keep your institutionalized guilt and self-loathing to yourself.

[burlygurly]

I am only saying what I believe and defending it. You claim this to be arrogant? So you must know what is true? Okay, tell me what you think is true and then defend it.

[smartincreative]

All living things are born and eventually die. There is nothing mystical, mysterious or supernatural about that process. More than that can not be proven by anyone. If proof were possible it would have been revealed long before now. Believe what you choose, what I see as delusion you may regard as salvation. So be it. This need to heap all this meaningless ritual surrounding these spurious beliefs on everyone else is arrogant.

[burlygurly]

But don't you ever wonder where everything came from? how could the design and order we see in nature come from chaos or meaninglessness? Do you ever wonder about this? Is there no pupose in life?

[smartincreative]

the purpose is simple, to live well and help others do the same. Why would anyone need more than that? And as far as where it all came from - I have no desire to debate evolution vs. creationism simply because there are those who understand and there are those who don't - conversion either way isn't possible.

[burlygurly]

understand what?? you're still not even simply telling me how you believe it all came about!

What's the purpose in helping others? Because it makes you feel good? to give your life some kind of meaning? either way, you still have to concept of good and bad. Where do even get those concepts? Where do you get the concept of "personal" and love? not from an impersonal source!

Would you consider love to be a delusion also?

[smartincreative]

why help others? Simply because it is in our nature as humans to co-habitate and the tendency to support one another within a community (or tribe) is a dominant trait because individuals and communities that practiced it had and have a greater chance to survive. See how simple it is? Also I hope you aren't implying that religion equals morality. History has proven the exact opposite is true.

[burlygurly]

According to evolution, the fittest survive. So why should we keep the disabled alive? they technically (according to your assertions) cannot benefit the "tribe". what do they have to offer? they depend completely on the stronger for survival.

I don't believe in the SLIGHTEST that morality comes from religion!

[smartincreative]

why treat the disabled humanely rather than let them die? Hmmm, that's a tough one! Maybe because we are a fairly evolved species that has developed the capacity to act beyond instinct. Sort of the same reason the females of a gorilla pod adopt the offspring of a female who has died. But who knows...maybe god talks to them too.

[burlygurly]

Humans are seperate from animals. But you probably wouldn't even care to hear why I believe so. You've constantly answered my questions with a lot of sarcasm--you obviously think I'm an idiot. But I am a thinking, logical, open-minded human being, just like you. We all must wonder at questions: where did we come from, where're we going, and why are we here?

[burlygurly]

In order for me to understand a little bit where you're coming from, may I ask how you were raised, that is, were your parents atheists, agnostic, theists, religious? Second question: What was the final straw, per say, that convinced you beyond a doubt, that God couldn't be real?

You don't have to answer, of course, but I ask if you do, please avoid the sarcasm. Thanks!

[smartincreative]

if I'm coming across as sarcastic it isn't intentional. I'm a born and raised roman catholic, baptized, communed and confirmed. 12 years of sunday school and all the masses I didn't skip. And it wasn't a final straw, just a steady drip drip drip of logical thought that led me here. I read the Bible and I see every petty human fear and frailty, manipulation and desire for power played out in the pages. I read the Origin of Species and it couldn't make more sense.

[smartincreative]

No, god doesn't talk to gorillas, or people or Bill Frist. We make the best decisions we can with the full knowledge that there are not absolutes, no certainties and no plan...scary isn't it?

[manny4life]

wow...a senator able to diagnose a patient who's been in the same vegetative state for years...wish i was that smart...what a douche..

[LiberalViewer]

I captured a clip from this video to use as part of my latest upload.

Thx 4 uploading this :-)

[EG3R]

Frist has now dropped out of the '08 presidential race. He can spend the rst of his life trying to reclaim his dignity.

[ButterBallsXe]

He's a misrepresentation of everything Science represents. The footage he looked at was 4 minutes.

[timmoreland]

Frist states that she hasn't had a complete exam. She didn't get one. Instead, she was killed slowly by ex-husband while the world stood by and watched. Chopping her head off would have been humane by comparison.

[ButterBallsXe]

I truly feel sad for you if that's what you think.

[PogueMoran]

So all the neurologists and doctors who saw her over 15 years dont count as an exam? Unfortunately the same people you support tim also don't allow euthanasia.

[tommyboy32288]

She recieved multiple diagnisi over a period of FIVE YEARS, by independent neuroloigists and a florida court found clear and convincing evidence to support michael schiavo's surrugate decsion to end the administration of water and nutrition and the florida supreme court on multiple occassions found this ruling to be void of any wrong doing

[PogueMoran]

I'm waiting for Frist to tell the senate about how sweat can give you aids

[lalarro1a]

what an a-hole