Also to all of you that were also looking for a way to make the game play at a normal rate on modern machines. I believe I finally found a good way, but I gotta do more tests and automate it a bit (I've been thinking of putting together a 'PlayOnLinux' installation script for this.
@BitnikGr, it was a long time ago (I recorded this about 3 years ago ;) but I believe I didn't wanna risk blowing the attempt, since the whole thing was recorder in a single flight and I did multiple attempts to get it right.
@Szift Yeah... I was playing it long time ago. At least 7-8 years ago. The hardest mission for me was an air battle against 4 F-16s. You know? The one with title "I don't give a quarter!" :)
It's quite easy, you land, come to a complete stop, turn off the engines and wait a couple of seconds. This way, if you pick the right mix of ammo, you can practically spend the whole 8 hour 'campaign window' flying and hitting stuff, like refuellers, tunnels, oil rigs/ships, EWRs, etc. ;)
@Szift Damn... I couldn't figured this out, either my manual was not complete, either my game had bug. I was landing on allied airfield, going off the airstrip, parking here, parking there, speeding up the time... nothing worked. :(
@BitnikGr That's because you had to stay on the runway, it didn't work if you parked by a hangar, or anywhere off the runway. And as far as I remember, it was not in the manual ;)
I found it by accident, while poking around, learning to land and take-off, and I'm sure it worked in at least two versions of the game (one of the dos versions and in the final Win95 version).
@Szift Real flights sims are much time consuming. I don't like playing arcade style shoot' em up. Thus, sitting several hours in front of a game takes me away from my family... and they don't like it much ;)
@BitnikGr I hear you there ;) I didn't say I do it every day, but once in a while it's nice to get enough time to do a campaign.
Also due to this I've been looking into the idea of finding a way to 'save game' *during* a flight in Super EF2000. In theory it should be possible, ie. on a virtual machine (just freeze the system, and unfreeze another time), but I didn't had a chance yet to try it out ;)
main thing in this game that made is fun was fully dynamic campaign. Battle was everywhere, everything affect something; you destroyed factory - enemy planes output did drop, you destroyed oil tanks - enemy had fuel shortage, you destroyed tank column - their advantage on the sector stopped.
Even protecting AWACS, while boring, gave your AI friends opportunity to wreak havoc and have edge over enemy.
i'm pilot and eurofighter 2000 is my inspiration! I played eurofighter when i was only 6 years to 16 years old but my computer not support the simulator! thanks szift, thanks for making me remember everything I played! I hope someday to make a new simulator so good as the Eurofighter 2000!!
This game is still miles ahead of games like Hawxs or Ace Combat. Sims like Lock On have better graphics and physics, but their focus on realism also took all fun to be had away. Lock On never felt like there was a war going on like in EF2000. Also for a buggy game like EF2000 was it still played smooth as silk.
I could never refueling in the air. I like to carry much weaponry and try to burn all the buildings in the city. Custom battles, only with machine guns were great. System failure .... and flickering screens are bad ..... mmmmmm!
@RTO41 Stop talking about this fucking tree, this is a joke about his accent ! He says "three" like "tree" ! Is it so difficult to understand ? Let me fly with my tree....
@Xgame44 Maybe you don't understand the nature of current day warfare with several different nationalities participating. People of different tongue have to speak English and when talking over radios they are told to overarticulate to prevent interpretation errors.
@KapiteinKrentebol I'm french so I understand, don't worry ! But i'm scared cause you can't recognize a joke.... Les arbres volent, les oiseaux chantent, et je frappe joliment mon sachet contre ton petit boule. :D
unlike modern day games.. this classic games teaches the basic command and leadership in air force. I love this games. What makes it best in classic games is its the games-education age
@Szift: I know what You are talking about :) I have the very same thing with old X-com series :) I't looks ugly now, but still it is one hell of a game :) BTW it was shipped on four 3,.5 " floppy disks back in 1994 ;)
@Timx4, huh ;) I may agree with you, but imagine that back in 1998 when I first played the game, it was awesome and among other games at that time the graphics was something along the lines of how HalfLife 2: EP2 (with the Source engine upgraded) looks compared to other games today
Another things is that with these types of games, it's nice to have a cool life-like graphics, but it's not what matters the most nor what brings in the fun :)
yea i agree i think its the best sim i played ever....and i played alot
i see it today and it feels me with memories and i still want to play it but it runs too fast on my comp and now that i have win 7 64 bit i cant even install it:((((
You cant possible imagine how many hours i gave to this sim..
And yes..i call it a SIMULATOR.. dont care its arcadish compared to Falcon 4.0 and other more complex sims (F-15 strike Eagle III, F-14Fleet Defender.. etc).. this pretended to simulate how intuitive and integrated the avionics of the Eurofighter are (wich is a lot since you can even use them with voice commands)
By the way.. is this a mix of Operation Dinner out? what mix exactly?
@ksastroo, I'm not sure, but since it's practically abandomware, you could try some sites with games of this type, if you're not lucky there, contact me directly, I'll be glad to help
@ksastroo If you do find the game, your going to need an ancient graphics card to run it in 3D, that's if you give it the 3DFX update anyway, something about the game engine running in a mode most modern games have left far behind when utilizing the graphics card memory.
I should have saved that old Orchid Righteous card from my parents old system.
Thanks for a great trip down memory lane! :-D.. Countless hours spent with friends in dogfights and doing strafing runs on the runway while he was powering up!.. Was a blast! (see what I did there) :-P..
Still have the original and the massive manual! Do you have an old rig playing the game or can it actually run on newer Windows versions? Either way, I'd give anything to play this game again! Thanks again for the view :-)
@Korwian, well last time I checked it on windows, it was the XP and it did run but required some CPU killer application. On the other hand it works flawlessly on Linux with the help of wine, see the url at the end of the video, there you'll find complete info on how to run the game using wine.
@kempet well to be honest, I'm currently researching this issue. My current goal is to release an iso of the game together with some such solution to allow the game to be playable on modern computers. I'm even considering binary patching the original executable, but this may prove to be quite a difficult task. I'll keep you informed.
About missle dodging, there are possible ways to do it. If you have the instruction manual that came with the game, there are a couple of examples in it. I usually either go low (if possible) or play with the afterburners and flairs/chaffs at close range.
AFAIK if ECM jamming is enabled, the system automatically fires what is needed.
"Later, using an enhanced TFX engine, the game EF2000 was released." and SEF2000 i the windows version of EF2000 (I spent over 2 years playing the dos version until I got SEF2000 in my hands :)
Music: "Muir Races to Work" - Spy Game - Harry Gregson-Williams
MrDanielBang 5 days ago
Also to all of you that were also looking for a way to make the game play at a normal rate on modern machines. I believe I finally found a good way, but I gotta do more tests and automate it a bit (I've been thinking of putting together a 'PlayOnLinux' installation script for this.
I'll let you know as soon as it's done.
Szift 1 week ago
Why didn't you nail the last flogger with guns only? :)))
MiG-21s are so easy targets in this game.
BitnikGr 1 week ago
@BitnikGr, it was a long time ago (I recorded this about 3 years ago ;) but I believe I didn't wanna risk blowing the attempt, since the whole thing was recorder in a single flight and I did multiple attempts to get it right.
Szift 1 week ago
@Szift Yeah... I was playing it long time ago. At least 7-8 years ago. The hardest mission for me was an air battle against 4 F-16s. You know? The one with title "I don't give a quarter!" :)
BitnikGr 1 week ago
How did you do such "reloading"? :)
Is it available in campaign missions too?
BitnikGr 1 week ago
@BitnikGr, sure, but only on allied airfields :)
It's quite easy, you land, come to a complete stop, turn off the engines and wait a couple of seconds. This way, if you pick the right mix of ammo, you can practically spend the whole 8 hour 'campaign window' flying and hitting stuff, like refuellers, tunnels, oil rigs/ships, EWRs, etc. ;)
Szift 1 week ago
@Szift Damn... I couldn't figured this out, either my manual was not complete, either my game had bug. I was landing on allied airfield, going off the airstrip, parking here, parking there, speeding up the time... nothing worked. :(
BitnikGr 1 week ago
@BitnikGr That's because you had to stay on the runway, it didn't work if you parked by a hangar, or anywhere off the runway. And as far as I remember, it was not in the manual ;)
I found it by accident, while poking around, learning to land and take-off, and I'm sure it worked in at least two versions of the game (one of the dos versions and in the final Win95 version).
Szift 1 week ago
@Szift I had Win95 version. :)
Anyway. Great memories. I always loved flights sims. Since 1990 I had been playing F-117, F-15, X-29, Flanker, SEF2000... and then... I grew up :(
BitnikGr 1 week ago
@BitnikGr "and then... I grew up" - I honestly never found that to be a problem when returning to my favourite games from time to time ;)
Szift 1 week ago
@Szift Real flights sims are much time consuming. I don't like playing arcade style shoot' em up. Thus, sitting several hours in front of a game takes me away from my family... and they don't like it much ;)
BitnikGr 1 week ago
@BitnikGr I hear you there ;) I didn't say I do it every day, but once in a while it's nice to get enough time to do a campaign.
Also due to this I've been looking into the idea of finding a way to 'save game' *during* a flight in Super EF2000. In theory it should be possible, ie. on a virtual machine (just freeze the system, and unfreeze another time), but I didn't had a chance yet to try it out ;)
Szift 1 week ago
Old airsims have their charm
i still play even F-19
Impulse116 2 weeks ago
J'ai passé tant d'heures à m'éclater sur ce fantastique jeu !!!!
leger7777 2 weeks ago
I felt bad for the guys still flying the old-ass mig-21s, with all those fancy su-35s their other squads had.
Pardessus 2 weeks ago
Only falcon 4.o does have better dynamic campaign engine
urmo345 3 weeks ago
main thing in this game that made is fun was fully dynamic campaign. Battle was everywhere, everything affect something; you destroyed factory - enemy planes output did drop, you destroyed oil tanks - enemy had fuel shortage, you destroyed tank column - their advantage on the sector stopped.
Even protecting AWACS, while boring, gave your AI friends opportunity to wreak havoc and have edge over enemy.
urmo345 3 weeks ago
i'm pilot and eurofighter 2000 is my inspiration! I played eurofighter when i was only 6 years to 16 years old but my computer not support the simulator! thanks szift, thanks for making me remember everything I played! I hope someday to make a new simulator so good as the Eurofighter 2000!!
jorpb89 3 weeks ago
It reminds me F22 Total air war, especially the graph.
pippem 2 months ago
This game is still miles ahead of games like Hawxs or Ace Combat. Sims like Lock On have better graphics and physics, but their focus on realism also took all fun to be had away. Lock On never felt like there was a war going on like in EF2000. Also for a buggy game like EF2000 was it still played smooth as silk.
KapiteinKrentebol 2 months ago
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I could never refueling in the air. I like to carry much weaponry and try to burn all the buildings in the city. Custom battles, only with machine guns were great. System failure .... and flickering screens are bad ..... mmmmmm!
andreswoodyto 2 months ago
How can you see a tree in the sky ??! Fifty trees !? You're in a plane ! How could it be possible ?
Ok ? FOTEE TREE DE GREASE !
Haha, what a fucking game, POULE EUP !
Xgame44 3 months ago
@Xgame44 I have no idea what are you referring to as 'trees' but there are no trees in this video.
Szift 3 months ago
@Szift Haha, it's a joke about this scary accent ! FIFTY TREE DE GREASE ! :D
Xgame44 3 months ago
@Xgame44
degrees.no trees -.-
RTO41 3 months ago
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Xgame44 3 months ago
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@RTO41 Stop talking about this fucking tree, this is a joke about his accent ! He says "three" like "tree" ! Is it so difficult to understand ? Let me fly with my tree....
Xgame44 3 months ago
@Xgame44 Maybe you don't understand the nature of current day warfare with several different nationalities participating. People of different tongue have to speak English and when talking over radios they are told to overarticulate to prevent interpretation errors.
KapiteinKrentebol 2 months ago
@KapiteinKrentebol I'm french so I understand, don't worry ! But i'm scared cause you can't recognize a joke.... Les arbres volent, les oiseaux chantent, et je frappe joliment mon sachet contre ton petit boule. :D
Xgame44 2 months ago
unlike modern day games.. this classic games teaches the basic command and leadership in air force. I love this games. What makes it best in classic games is its the games-education age
BUTUHMAYAU 3 months ago
siema Łukasz :]
Gothos 3 months ago
@Szift: I know what You are talking about :) I have the very same thing with old X-com series :) I't looks ugly now, but still it is one hell of a game :) BTW it was shipped on four 3,.5 " floppy disks back in 1994 ;)
woociek 4 months ago
Graphoc so ugly
Timx4 4 months ago
@Timx4, huh ;) I may agree with you, but imagine that back in 1998 when I first played the game, it was awesome and among other games at that time the graphics was something along the lines of how HalfLife 2: EP2 (with the Source engine upgraded) looks compared to other games today
Another things is that with these types of games, it's nice to have a cool life-like graphics, but it's not what matters the most nor what brings in the fun :)
Szift 4 months ago
@Szift
yea i agree i think its the best sim i played ever....and i played alot
i see it today and it feels me with memories and i still want to play it but it runs too fast on my comp and now that i have win 7 64 bit i cant even install it:((((
lironk1 1 month ago
dam nice! My first PC game, lots of memories. But u should buy joystick;]
FiFiGiN88 7 months ago
One of the BEST!!! only unsurpassed by DID Total Air War... :D
TheClaudinho2010 8 months ago
You cant possible imagine how many hours i gave to this sim..
And yes..i call it a SIMULATOR.. dont care its arcadish compared to Falcon 4.0 and other more complex sims (F-15 strike Eagle III, F-14Fleet Defender.. etc).. this pretended to simulate how intuitive and integrated the avionics of the Eurofighter are (wich is a lot since you can even use them with voice commands)
By the way.. is this a mix of Operation Dinner out? what mix exactly?
sparrowlt 8 months ago
Thanks for this upload!! It brings me a lot of good memories!! :D Regards, GMF.
GrossMeisterFuchs 10 months ago
@Szift:, the simulator is nowwhere to be found. Do you know where I can find it pls?
Thanks!
ksastroo 10 months ago
very nice. I used to play this simulator lots and lots of times. does anyone know if this game is still available somewhere? or on the net? thx
ksastroo 10 months ago
@ksastroo, I'm not sure, but since it's practically abandomware, you could try some sites with games of this type, if you're not lucky there, contact me directly, I'll be glad to help
Szift 10 months ago
@ksastroo If you do find the game, your going to need an ancient graphics card to run it in 3D, that's if you give it the 3DFX update anyway, something about the game engine running in a mode most modern games have left far behind when utilizing the graphics card memory.
I should have saved that old Orchid Righteous card from my parents old system.
Outamyhead 3 months ago
Thanks for a great trip down memory lane! :-D.. Countless hours spent with friends in dogfights and doing strafing runs on the runway while he was powering up!.. Was a blast! (see what I did there) :-P..
Still have the original and the massive manual! Do you have an old rig playing the game or can it actually run on newer Windows versions? Either way, I'd give anything to play this game again! Thanks again for the view :-)
Korwian 11 months ago
@Korwian, well last time I checked it on windows, it was the XP and it did run but required some CPU killer application. On the other hand it works flawlessly on Linux with the help of wine, see the url at the end of the video, there you'll find complete info on how to run the game using wine.
Szift 11 months ago
@Szift I've tried using CPU killers, but it did not work - is there any other workaround the speed problem?
kempet 9 months ago
@kempet well to be honest, I'm currently researching this issue. My current goal is to release an iso of the game together with some such solution to allow the game to be playable on modern computers. I'm even considering binary patching the original executable, but this may prove to be quite a difficult task. I'll keep you informed.
Szift 9 months ago
@Szift Awesome - just subscribed to you, hope you can get it running because I'm dieing to play EF 2000 again!
kempet 9 months ago
@Szift Use a program called DOSBOX you can play any dos games perfectly on all versions of windows, linux and mac.
phreak761 7 months ago
I still remeber this game... IT was the best.....
ilichxtrm 1 year ago
cara que saudades...
FOCKEWULFD9 1 year ago
Glad you like it :)
About missle dodging, there are possible ways to do it. If you have the instruction manual that came with the game, there are a couple of examples in it. I usually either go low (if possible) or play with the afterburners and flairs/chaffs at close range.
AFAIK if ECM jamming is enabled, the system automatically fires what is needed.
Szift 1 year ago
That will show those Ruski's for messing with Poland! ;)
Have you any tips on avoiding the missiles, besides landing, and keeping low cover near the hills?
Did you use flares/chaffs, or radar jamming in that clip?
SEF2000 came free with my first ever PC, and its still my favourite of all flight sims.
adriansmithmusic 1 year ago
this is awesome! Super EF2000 was the most awesome sim, and was without the flaws of EF2000... Great music track too
deslegumes 1 year ago
Isn't this the successor to TFX ?
concujak 1 year ago
@concujak, see the TFS (game) wikipedia entry:
"Later, using an enhanced TFX engine, the game EF2000 was released." and SEF2000 i the windows version of EF2000 (I spent over 2 years playing the dos version until I got SEF2000 in my hands :)
Szift 1 year ago
I love this game. :)
orozimbo01 1 year ago