Aw July :(. Was really rooting for him this game. Honestly, I felt he was at a disadvantage as soon as he went for that expansion - whatever trickery he could have pulled off by having it wouldn't be good enough to deal with how much faster Yarnc got his Spire :(.
haha agreee gogo next match ^^.. that was an awsome looking zvz dog fight right there tho.. for some time atleast.. mayby not amazing zvz skill wise.. but in my opiniun verry entertaining fast paced dirty zvz ^^ gg
I think July had the right idea in not trying to play catch up with Yarnc's air force right away, but the economic damage he ended up inflicting was so insignificant. If he had saved those lings for defence, his base would have been virtually impenetrable while he got his spire and 2nd gas running.
i may be a total noob, but even i knew that those persistent zergling rushes weren't the correct couse of action when there was a sunken and a group of mutas to deal with, not to mention good drone micro
when you're repeated throwing away control groups of zerglings to take out just a few drones when you should be preparing to counter an imminent air threat, you're obviously doing something wrong
stop saying this 12 pool beats 9 pool, 12 hatch beats 12 pool, beacause it is NOT true. 9 pool ofc >> 12 hatch. And you never mention the overpool build, which has so many variasions like, overgaspool, or overpoolgas or overpooldronegas etc etc... These builds arent heavy counter to the other ones. The only build which counters another very efficinetly is 9 pool. 12 pool can easely beat 12 hatch, because by the time SPire finishes you will have 2 hatces too, and earlier mutas and scurges....
??? what made you think i need to chill? i didnt use any swearing/cursng words or anything. jus giving feedback. If you dont understand the comment, best thing is to not answer.
Of course, there are many factors that come into the success of a build (other factors include distance + map type + positioning + scouting luck). What the commentators are trying to do is keep it SIMPLE for novice viewers (like me).
Could you come up with a brief description for ZvZ build comparisons that would be correct most of the time and that novices could grasp?
I think it's safe to say that this rock/paper/scissors in ZvZ is true 95 percent of the time. Yes it's possible to come back from it, as Jaedong does routinely, but it's extraordinarily difficult and basically requires a huge mistake to lose.
i assure you it's not true. It's personal experience too (i win more than 50% with 12pool against 12 hatch against realtivly even opponents.) But you can say, it's only me, in pro scene it's way different. A guy, named Fontong, made statistics on ZvZ buildorer counters on different maps a while ago. I'd want to share you here one of them: Medusa 9pool vs 12 pool 4-0 in favor of 9pool. Search for his thread, it's intresting, and make sure you read MYM.Testie's comments about luck, in that thread
Interesting, I'll check it out. I'm a poor player but I do play zerg also, and it always seemed true for me. I've watched a LOT of replays, and it always seemed to ring true. But then again it's analysis and anecdotal experience, not compiled statistics.
Cholera, are you aware of that you spoiled the result of these tie breakers in the last winners leauge commentaries you did with Klazart? It's not a big problem really, but I think that you should now, if you don't already do. I love your commentaries anyway, especially when it's just you and Rise. Keep up the good work!
Most people 'clone' them. So you select them all, right click a mineral patch, then deselect (shift-left-click) one of them, right click a mineral patch, and repeat. This gets them all initially moving at the same time, but they all end up going to their own patch. The technique is used all throughout the game (e.g. 'cloning' a group of scourge to take out multiple science vessels...)
Wow, I thought the game was over. P.S., I guess I can't post a link, but you guys should google starcraft origami. There's a bunch of different pictures - they're pretty cool.
Is is possible for you two, to even out the commentator volumn? It makes it very annoying haveing to adjust it on my end everytime. Would be greatly appreciated. But great commentating as always guys!
Aw July :(. Was really rooting for him this game. Honestly, I felt he was at a disadvantage as soon as he went for that expansion - whatever trickery he could have pulled off by having it wouldn't be good enough to deal with how much faster Yarnc got his Spire :(.
z00tGRUNT 2 years ago
man they're mutalisks. and zerglings.
123456789106 2 years ago
haha agreee gogo next match ^^.. that was an awsome looking zvz dog fight right there tho.. for some time atleast.. mayby not amazing zvz skill wise.. but in my opiniun verry entertaining fast paced dirty zvz ^^ gg
kakao777 2 years ago
Hyuked himself bad.
Spanky00Cheeks 2 years ago 3
lol hyuk, i miss him haha.
rbrtchng 2 years ago
ITS JULYS FAULT!
moviepinkyweb 2 years ago 4
I think July had the right idea in not trying to play catch up with Yarnc's air force right away, but the economic damage he ended up inflicting was so insignificant. If he had saved those lings for defence, his base would have been virtually impenetrable while he got his spire and 2nd gas running.
Caol2008 2 years ago
"I don't even want to talk about this game - let's go to Stork!"
Gold.
jzero4813 2 years ago
July completely Huykked himself.
rillel89 2 years ago 3
July failed so bad
RealmEternal 2 years ago
i may be a total noob, but even i knew that those persistent zergling rushes weren't the correct couse of action when there was a sunken and a group of mutas to deal with, not to mention good drone micro
when you're repeated throwing away control groups of zerglings to take out just a few drones when you should be preparing to counter an imminent air threat, you're obviously doing something wrong
redAkamaru13 2 years ago
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WOW NOOOOOOBEST WORST guy talking ever, "ACTUALLY NO" x 25213324532 times WTF?! sooOOO NOOB OMFG STFU
rishanwest 2 years ago
Hero sunken colony !
ModeLTU 2 years ago
ah..ah..ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
insane comeback... wow
stevz0r 2 years ago
HYUKKED!!!!
TerranFan11111 2 years ago
god. i love your videos usually but i have to say you failed with the volumes this series
dama2543 2 years ago
*groan* ohh, July!! tut tut!
Kudos to Yarnc for keeping a cool head
Smudge4C 2 years ago
woohooo
xsagradoxcorazonx 2 years ago
how do these people have any time to practice? seems like they have to spend most of their time posing for intro videos
rejeckedking 2 years ago 2
stop saying "I got to say" that much
elsonero82 2 years ago
Arnk is my new hero. Freaking awesome game.
yiffie 2 years ago
comeon july, u had it right there
sporeandbryan 2 years ago
Cholera is really loud. Rise is really soft.
cataphracts123 2 years ago
Amazing come back. Many would have gg'ed. The only thing i can think of is that july forgot his spire.
That offfensive sunken was cool too.
Tillysouth 2 years ago
I think July was really ahead before the ling waves.
velociper 2 years ago 2
beautiful commentary!
utubeaddict12334 2 years ago
stop saying this 12 pool beats 9 pool, 12 hatch beats 12 pool, beacause it is NOT true. 9 pool ofc >> 12 hatch. And you never mention the overpool build, which has so many variasions like, overgaspool, or overpoolgas or overpooldronegas etc etc... These builds arent heavy counter to the other ones. The only build which counters another very efficinetly is 9 pool. 12 pool can easely beat 12 hatch, because by the time SPire finishes you will have 2 hatces too, and earlier mutas and scurges....
Georionsc 2 years ago
someone needs to take a chillpill
7DarkTemplar7 2 years ago
??? what made you think i need to chill? i didnt use any swearing/cursng words or anything. jus giving feedback. If you dont understand the comment, best thing is to not answer.
Georionsc 2 years ago
Of course, there are many factors that come into the success of a build (other factors include distance + map type + positioning + scouting luck). What the commentators are trying to do is keep it SIMPLE for novice viewers (like me).
Could you come up with a brief description for ZvZ build comparisons that would be correct most of the time and that novices could grasp?
Theldiot 2 years ago 3
I think it's safe to say that this rock/paper/scissors in ZvZ is true 95 percent of the time. Yes it's possible to come back from it, as Jaedong does routinely, but it's extraordinarily difficult and basically requires a huge mistake to lose.
pianomikey0 2 years ago
i assure you it's not true. It's personal experience too (i win more than 50% with 12pool against 12 hatch against realtivly even opponents.) But you can say, it's only me, in pro scene it's way different. A guy, named Fontong, made statistics on ZvZ buildorer counters on different maps a while ago. I'd want to share you here one of them: Medusa 9pool vs 12 pool 4-0 in favor of 9pool. Search for his thread, it's intresting, and make sure you read MYM.Testie's comments about luck, in that thread
Georionsc 2 years ago
Interesting, I'll check it out. I'm a poor player but I do play zerg also, and it always seemed true for me. I've watched a LOT of replays, and it always seemed to ring true. But then again it's analysis and anecdotal experience, not compiled statistics.
pianomikey0 2 years ago
Oops. Of course I meant "I think that you should know".
MissileN 2 years ago
Cholera, are you aware of that you spoiled the result of these tie breakers in the last winners leauge commentaries you did with Klazart? It's not a big problem really, but I think that you should now, if you don't already do. I love your commentaries anyway, especially when it's just you and Rise. Keep up the good work!
MissileN 2 years ago
hmm, y dosn't yellow just let his brother play for him
no one can tell
INS1cells 2 years ago
Saying "Ar-Nack" would involde a second vowel.
"Arnk" should be the proper pronunciation, like Barn+ Bark - the "B".
Also, Cholera is way out of level with Rise.
They record the audio levels seperate from the video. Why wasn't that fixed?
BriskAxe 2 years ago
Arnk is a bitch to say, and it sounds ugly.
JohnnyChimpo577 2 years ago 2
at 3:02 how does he make all the drones like get minerals at the same time?
WxinW 2 years ago
WxinW
are you fucking retarded or what?
mugge517 2 years ago
they are profesionals. this is what they do. they practice and they click fast so they all go at practically the same time.
rejeckedking 2 years ago 2
Most people 'clone' them. So you select them all, right click a mineral patch, then deselect (shift-left-click) one of them, right click a mineral patch, and repeat. This gets them all initially moving at the same time, but they all end up going to their own patch. The technique is used all throughout the game (e.g. 'cloning' a group of scourge to take out multiple science vessels...)
connorbfitz 2 years ago 2
Now this is a good game
07minute 2 years ago
Wow, I thought the game was over. P.S., I guess I can't post a link, but you guys should google starcraft origami. There's a bunch of different pictures - they're pretty cool.
tonpole 2 years ago
W00t Colera and Rise since a month or something:D
kakashiismee 2 years ago 2
Is is possible for you two, to even out the commentator volumn? It makes it very annoying haveing to adjust it on my end everytime. Would be greatly appreciated. But great commentating as always guys!
DerFlo4711 2 years ago 5
wouldn't it be funny if they never get a 2 win streak? haha! the osl will be like, stuck at the tiebreakers forever O_O
albeit i'm sure the referees will intervene
... after a month or so
goldliquid 2 years ago 5
impressive play
herrbananapa 2 years ago
iono whats going on with july these days...
kekekwon 2 years ago
Great game.
Yummmchaaa 2 years ago