help please.. what's the difference between your gun, WOC04, and WOC -X? would you recommend WE m4 3rd gen as an alternative for WOC? really need help...
the fps on these things can go into the mid 400s tor 500s so use heavy bbs(.25 and up) also to save money, you can get a 200 dollar challenge kit(in parts and you have to put it together) from evike. it doesnt come with a mag though.
@AwokenDemon Actually whats better to do these days , is find one used. and modify it that way. In order for these to be field legal where I am, they need to shoot below 400 for full auto (useless on these) or 450 for dmr. I just paid so much because I got the first one that airsoftextreme got out of twenty.
Very nice review, btw how many mags do you carry in a skirmish? how many speed loaders do you think I should carry if.... If have the time to reload or if I'm safe? cause the ammo is very scarce so I thought maybe bringing a speed loader or 2 might get you through a game if you can load the mags without being shot.
@SgtAnderson1968 G&P WOC but, Inokatsu is actually better then a WOC and I am selling a perfect condition Inokatsu for a bit less then what a new WOC cost's. It's a good deal.
Im thinking of getting one of those myself, How bad is the gas leakage when the magazine is locked in with the bolt locked back? and are there any upgrades or domestic remedies to remove or mitigate that defect? any help would be appreciated
If you order a gun from Japan and are lucky enough that custom's doesn't destroy it, it will either come with a plastic orange flash hider on the gun (but will come with the original black flash hider in the box, just off of the gun) or they will paint the tip itself.
I am fortunate enough to play on closed fields, obviously your some child playing in a park on public lands where that could happen (although that is far worse in my opinion). Yes in game it is useless, for transport I sometimes use it. However is is always in a case so no one can see it. And the organization I play with is lucky enough to have cops playing with us.
nope, internet jerks are never cool. just lonely assholes that have no friends and no life. Me I was a 19D (recon scout for your lower iq). So I love airsoft because it reminds me of when I was in the army.
@BraddaCakes You're a dumbass. I guess if you are transporting a real firearm without an orange tip you'll get pumped full of lead too right? Don't play airsoft in the street retard.
the thing on the mag is on other mags a shifty thingy that ingages ore disengages the bolt stop cathc feature for safe dry fireing without bb's they usually have two mag types one with one without this shifty thingy
The WOC does not have any jamming problems, but the hop-up chamber on most of them doesn't hold the bb in tight enough so it will roll down the barrel a bit before you shoot causing it to not go very far. The new RA-Tech hop-up chamber fixes this.
Just going to add some history if you don't mind. G&P gave their rights of selling GBB rifles to Western Arms ( sister company ) and G&P also had rights to produce such rifle and took back their rights to sell the rifle as if it's theirs. The GBB rifles that G&p set apart from all the other GBB rifles from Sun Project to KJ Works Tanio koba GBB rifles even though Tanio Koba M4 ( technically C8's ) were sort of late in their release. Still, G&P is unique. No one can copy them no matter what
Nice review. By the way, highly recommended that you do NOT use the forward assist... it's unlikely to actually solve any problems when dealing with plastic BBs, and will probably make them worse.
hmm u check the cocking handle, btw what is that little thing sticking out of the cocking handle (says its an spr type cocking handle) do u need to squeeze it to pull back or, what does it do
1) you can loosen the mag catch. if the mag fits very tightly i would suggest you open ur gun up see where you need to sand it. but most likely it'll b in the front wall of the mag well,
2) you pull the delta ring back take out the bottom ras, there should be a roller near the chamber,( hop up), then adjust it.
I have the cqb version and not a single wobble! Only the retractable stock but thats easy to fix with some tape. The action is kinda rough so I'm beginning to wonder they didn't lubricate the parts at all... I'm having problem with the switch from full auto to single mode... like you said it may improve over time. Entire rifle is made of steel/aluminium except the two ris heatshields, forward grip, handgrip and stock (not the tube).
How was the service from them other then the mistake with the Defender. They seem liked they fixed it quickly with no problem and also how were the condition on both rifles since you had two. Were they 10 out of 10.
The part on your mag thats missing is part of the bolt catch system so its probably a WA S-type magazine so you can continue to dry fire the gun after you run out of ammo. Hope that helps
Dude you are the guy on gas gun forum right ahah i was talking to you about buying my URX from aex and you told me the same story of getting the defender instead. Oh boy did you have me worried i was getting the wrong one too
its not that its missing the full auto just that the sr-15 and 16 dont shoot full auto lol but im sure u know that by now. Hey have u figured out how to remove the front barrel? I have the woc tank and am ordering the sr-16 front end for longer barrel.
Im sure you did your gbb homework before buying this gun. my birthday is comming up and im ordering my gun on saturday for it. ive been brousing all of the brands, watching shooting tests, reading and watching reviews, (by the way great review). i just weanted to know what you think the best company to go with is. i have for the most part made up my mind on we because of the price, but i just wanted to see if anyone could persuade me against it.
Lo bud, Ive owned a western Arms GBB M$ since September last year and have just replaced all the original parts with the SR15 body and the SR16 URX front end by G&P. Your question about the little switch is as one other chap thought it in fact to allow you to dry fire the weapon. It is a nice function when wanting to demonstrate the gas blow back function of the gun with out having to load up a magazine. If ever you are stuck and need any advice on fixes or repairs just let me know.
Hi, I've heard lot of bad things about plastic WA M4 so I am wondering if you have experienced any problems with this G&P with metal internal parts.. Thanks
the only thing that happens with the g&p is that the bolt catch chips the bolt. However i do not view this as a problem because I personally think that once you get one of these you should just get a new carrier and bolt with npas system from ra tech. Other than that this is a fantastic airsoft rifle.
Hey to your question about the small switch on the top of the mag... i think its for the bolt-stop function. When you slide it to the other side, your bolt won`t catch if you fired the last BB.
But i´m not sure, can`t understand why there is no english catalogue or owners-manual.
Good work. Only bumping against the mike was a little annoying. Is it true that you have to lock the bolt back before inserting a mag, otherwise something knocks the valve and discharges the gas?
Hey good review man. Im a pretty knowlegdeable airsofter and I know a good review when i see one. I've been looking into buying one of these but they've got such a steep price tag. Oh by the way, would you happen to know if the WOC's will accept an SR15 URX made by G&P? I assume it would but you never know as they make things specifically for these GBB m4s nowadays :P Mahalo ;)
yes I still have the hk416. Although its in need of a piston. I also have a CA m16w/m203, TM/ ICS (made into one) mp5 sd6, Maruzen l96, UTG l96, WE dragon B5.1, cmya glock 18, and of course my WE wilson combat 1911. I had a TM s-system but I sold it.
Great video I have 2 questions 1 how much and 2 did anything break ?
JohnJayRambo1 3 months ago
that tab mentioned at 8:30 is the bolt catch function on/off switch i think.
94705backyardairsoft 3 months ago
help please.. what's the difference between your gun, WOC04, and WOC -X? would you recommend WE m4 3rd gen as an alternative for WOC? really need help...
winterheartz012 4 months ago
the fps on these things can go into the mid 400s tor 500s so use heavy bbs(.25 and up) also to save money, you can get a 200 dollar challenge kit(in parts and you have to put it together) from evike. it doesnt come with a mag though.
AwokenDemon 6 months ago
@AwokenDemon Actually whats better to do these days , is find one used. and modify it that way. In order for these to be field legal where I am, they need to shoot below 400 for full auto (useless on these) or 450 for dmr. I just paid so much because I got the first one that airsoftextreme got out of twenty.
AchilliesWar 6 months ago
@AchilliesWar how much was it?
aceshot4095 6 months ago
@aceshot4095 $750
AchilliesWar 6 months ago
Is Ra Tech available as a parts supplier for VFC M4's as well? Can someone please respond asap. Thanks.
grunticus09 10 months ago
why does everyone in the U.S have a G&P woc sr16 urx not the G&P woc sr16 m4 are those like banned in the us?
airsoftkingdom12 11 months ago
What magazine should i buy with it.
airsoftkingdom12 1 year ago
Very nice review, btw how many mags do you carry in a skirmish? how many speed loaders do you think I should carry if.... If have the time to reload or if I'm safe? cause the ammo is very scarce so I thought maybe bringing a speed loader or 2 might get you through a game if you can load the mags without being shot.
cobraz22 1 year ago
I want to buy an extra mag which sould i buy?
airsoftkingdom12 1 year ago
nicce weapon:>
flo417 1 year ago
Good review, man. Did you ever find out what the little piece on the top of the magazine does?
s11033 1 year ago
grate man! i just wonder how long the effective range is with .30g or heavier (if you know). thanks from Sweden!
itsahurricane 1 year ago
The we quality control isn't as good as Woc's, but there are some perks to owning a WE.
AchilliesWar 1 year ago
I have an opportunity to get a G&P woc cqbr or a WE TECH M16a3 which do you think is better?
SgtAnderson1968 1 year ago
@SgtAnderson1968 G&P WOC but, Inokatsu is actually better then a WOC and I am selling a perfect condition Inokatsu for a bit less then what a new WOC cost's. It's a good deal.
ktmracer3500 1 year ago
can the lower part of the handguard/ris be removed so that you can attach a barrel mounted m203? i need help asap :) thnks
Achiliesguy21 1 year ago
Im thinking of getting one of those myself, How bad is the gas leakage when the magazine is locked in with the bolt locked back? and are there any upgrades or domestic remedies to remove or mitigate that defect? any help would be appreciated
Over all great review and great weapon
RedDragonQ 1 year ago
got a WOC version... it's sooo tight i had to use a soft hammer to get the pin out.
Lol its oil dry out of the box, needs lot of lubing.
Perfect for cheap dustergas in single mode
kinmanyuen 2 years ago
@kinmanyuen im about to get one and does it need to be lubed up with silicone oil or something else?
xxthehuskycaboosexx 2 years ago
silicon oil will do
kinmanyuen 2 years ago
@kinmanyuen and what should i spray should i just spray inside out, or do i have to take the gun apart?
xxthehuskycaboosexx 2 years ago
inside by removing pin and polish a little on outside.. the finish was mat.
kinmanyuen 2 years ago
G&P really likes the SEALs, thet are the best after all
Oxstayne 2 years ago
Arg, do want has. Nice rifle.
MrSniper16 2 years ago
If you order a gun from Japan and are lucky enough that custom's doesn't destroy it, it will either come with a plastic orange flash hider on the gun (but will come with the original black flash hider in the box, just off of the gun) or they will paint the tip itself.
MrSniper16 2 years ago
Sir what's the range of these rifles? 50 meters max?
take care.
TheBelva85 2 years ago
actually yes good guess
brandoncormac 2 years ago
AchilliesWar - great review. Have you noticed any significant wear or other issues since posting this video, or is the rifle holding up pretty well?
Thanks.
danelrey77 2 years ago
lmao, he says the red tip is useless? untill you get pumped full of lead by a rookie from your local police department...
BraddaCakes 2 years ago
I am fortunate enough to play on closed fields, obviously your some child playing in a park on public lands where that could happen (although that is far worse in my opinion). Yes in game it is useless, for transport I sometimes use it. However is is always in a case so no one can see it. And the organization I play with is lucky enough to have cops playing with us.
AchilliesWar 2 years ago
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i only can pray, that one day.. i will be as cool as you. playing with toy guns is a serious business.
good for you that you know cops, i know cops well enough to tell you when your not around they call you a big nerd and a true pseudo cop.
BraddaCakes 2 years ago
Nice car racing videos BraddaCakes, I bet you're a really big doucheba- whoops I meant cool person.
instrumedley1928 2 years ago
nope, internet jerks are never cool. just lonely assholes that have no friends and no life. Me I was a 19D (recon scout for your lower iq). So I love airsoft because it reminds me of when I was in the army.
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bobotea1234 1 year ago
@BraddaCakes That only happens to little kids that play on the streets with their dinky walmart guns.
Heheh274 1 year ago
@Heheh274 that they spray paint black right? yep.
airsoftNOOBpwner 1 year ago
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@airsoftNOOBpwner What does that have to do with anything?
Heheh274 1 year ago
@BraddaCakes You're a dumbass. I guess if you are transporting a real firearm without an orange tip you'll get pumped full of lead too right? Don't play airsoft in the street retard.
Racemark123 7 months ago
the thing on the mag is on other mags a shifty thingy that ingages ore disengages the bolt stop cathc feature for safe dry fireing without bb's they usually have two mag types one with one without this shifty thingy
afogn 2 years ago
nice gun, good review
Oxstayne 2 years ago
nice review. i want to have one but i heard that WA system or even Inokatsu has significant issue on bb jamned or bb misfeeding. How bout WOC?
MalaysiaAnjing 2 years ago
The WOC does not have any jamming problems, but the hop-up chamber on most of them doesn't hold the bb in tight enough so it will roll down the barrel a bit before you shoot causing it to not go very far. The new RA-Tech hop-up chamber fixes this.
masada03 2 years ago
We have the same gun, only mine is a defendef version
AssaultRiflePlayer 2 years ago
What does the WOC mean?
Duy556 2 years ago
Western arms Official Custom
AchilliesWar 2 years ago
Just going to add some history if you don't mind. G&P gave their rights of selling GBB rifles to Western Arms ( sister company ) and G&P also had rights to produce such rifle and took back their rights to sell the rifle as if it's theirs. The GBB rifles that G&p set apart from all the other GBB rifles from Sun Project to KJ Works Tanio koba GBB rifles even though Tanio Koba M4 ( technically C8's ) were sort of late in their release. Still, G&P is unique. No one can copy them no matter what
AssaultRiflePlayer 2 years ago
great review
slipknot1712 2 years ago
also good review :)
britzulu1 2 years ago
good choice, with both guns and music :)
britzulu1 2 years ago
whats the normal % on the hammer spring?
AIRSFTKNG 2 years ago
Nice review. By the way, highly recommended that you do NOT use the forward assist... it's unlikely to actually solve any problems when dealing with plastic BBs, and will probably make them worse.
unipus 2 years ago
lol
GerardCB777 2 years ago
I have a stoner sr16 mine lock back has stopped working,less than a 1000 rounds fired,any ideas?
soalman007 2 years ago
hmm u check the cocking handle, btw what is that little thing sticking out of the cocking handle (says its an spr type cocking handle) do u need to squeeze it to pull back or, what does it do
cockofdoody4ftw 2 years ago
Great Review Thanks.
soalman007 2 years ago
i have the m16a4 ras version and i need some help
1) i have to press the mag release to insert a new mag. any solutions?
2) do i have to disassamble the front of the gun only to adjust the hop up?
koxdipy 2 years ago
i have found the hop up :)
koxdipy 2 years ago
where is it?
mniuye 2 years ago
same like the western arms, under the ras but now i have feeding problems
koxdipy 2 years ago
You have to take the RAS off everytime you want to adjust?
mniuye 2 years ago
just the under rail
koxdipy 2 years ago
can someone post a vid of it I cant find it.
mniuye 2 years ago
answer.
1) you can loosen the mag catch. if the mag fits very tightly i would suggest you open ur gun up see where you need to sand it. but most likely it'll b in the front wall of the mag well,
2) you pull the delta ring back take out the bottom ras, there should be a roller near the chamber,( hop up), then adjust it.
41ACE 2 years ago
thx but now when i adjust the hop up, the bb's are rolling out of the barrel
i have to wait till i have some money to buy some ra tech upgrades
koxdipy 2 years ago
adjust hop up just rail. and mag release, probly a strong hammer, u can try cocking the handle back too before loading it agms do it too
cockofdoody4ftw 2 years ago
9.6? its gas i think bro
Jdawg0492 2 years ago
Great review. I just bought one of these and some AGM mags. I just hope the AGM mags arent crappy.
masada03 2 years ago
I got my gun, love it, but I HATE the AGM mags. If you have this gun don't even consider buying them.
masada03 2 years ago
sadly they're
kullwarrior 2 years ago
I have one too! What does it shoot stock? Mine is about 20 rounds a second on a 9.6
0akabigtuna0 2 years ago
I got my M16A4 WOC on firday last week and I am so happy. It just has a little receiver wobble.
ktmracer3500 2 years ago
I have the cqb version and not a single wobble! Only the retractable stock but thats easy to fix with some tape. The action is kinda rough so I'm beginning to wonder they didn't lubricate the parts at all... I'm having problem with the switch from full auto to single mode... like you said it may improve over time. Entire rifle is made of steel/aluminium except the two ris heatshields, forward grip, handgrip and stock (not the tube).
Amazingly in love ^^
kinmanyuen 2 years ago
with the stock wobble, the real steel's stock wobbles so if you are into milsim its a pro
milsimjunkie 2 years ago
Hey,
How was the service from them other then the mistake with the Defender. They seem liked they fixed it quickly with no problem and also how were the condition on both rifles since you had two. Were they 10 out of 10.
ktmracer3500 2 years ago
Hey by any chance can you put magpul ranger plates on the mags , thanks great review btw!
stfuBUDDY 2 years ago
can you put a normal tight bore barrel you would put on an aeg in this gun?
BrickWaluigi 2 years ago
The part on your mag thats missing is part of the bolt catch system so its probably a WA S-type magazine so you can continue to dry fire the gun after you run out of ammo. Hope that helps
Fandango831 2 years ago
what did he say could take off the permanent marker?
AndY3607 2 years ago
loosen it with vinegar, then use a magic eraser.
AchilliesWar 2 years ago
Thanks man! Good review by the way!
AndY3607 2 years ago
Achillies, in inokatsu the bb sometime jamned. it happened quite sometime. How about your WOC?
Gejree 2 years ago
mine is better
lol cool gun!!
41ACE 2 years ago
Dude you are the guy on gas gun forum right ahah i was talking to you about buying my URX from aex and you told me the same story of getting the defender instead. Oh boy did you have me worried i was getting the wrong one too
proballer25 2 years ago
its not that its missing the full auto just that the sr-15 and 16 dont shoot full auto lol but im sure u know that by now. Hey have u figured out how to remove the front barrel? I have the woc tank and am ordering the sr-16 front end for longer barrel.
HammerheadWOC 2 years ago
Im sure you did your gbb homework before buying this gun. my birthday is comming up and im ordering my gun on saturday for it. ive been brousing all of the brands, watching shooting tests, reading and watching reviews, (by the way great review). i just weanted to know what you think the best company to go with is. i have for the most part made up my mind on we because of the price, but i just wanted to see if anyone could persuade me against it.
Beloinizzle 2 years ago
Lo bud, Ive owned a western Arms GBB M$ since September last year and have just replaced all the original parts with the SR15 body and the SR16 URX front end by G&P. Your question about the little switch is as one other chap thought it in fact to allow you to dry fire the weapon. It is a nice function when wanting to demonstrate the gas blow back function of the gun with out having to load up a magazine. If ever you are stuck and need any advice on fixes or repairs just let me know.
Bladedge2k8 2 years ago
Great review!
elyminator56 2 years ago
Has this ever had any problems? I dont want to buy this and then have it break wasting 700 bucks.
peroman15 2 years ago
i wont the huging gun
specopspball 2 years ago
Hi, I've heard lot of bad things about plastic WA M4 so I am wondering if you have experienced any problems with this G&P with metal internal parts.. Thanks
Pouk3D 2 years ago
the only thing that happens with the g&p is that the bolt catch chips the bolt. However i do not view this as a problem because I personally think that once you get one of these you should just get a new carrier and bolt with npas system from ra tech. Other than that this is a fantastic airsoft rifle.
AchilliesWar 2 years ago
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Pouk3D 2 years ago
Thanks. And very good and helpful review by the way.
Pouk3D 2 years ago
Hey to your question about the small switch on the top of the mag... i think its for the bolt-stop function. When you slide it to the other side, your bolt won`t catch if you fired the last BB.
But i´m not sure, can`t understand why there is no english catalogue or owners-manual.
Anyways, good job with this vid.
AdioUKO 2 years ago
Good work. Only bumping against the mike was a little annoying. Is it true that you have to lock the bolt back before inserting a mag, otherwise something knocks the valve and discharges the gas?
azuremain 2 years ago
that or just charge the handle. and thanks.
AchilliesWar 2 years ago
Hey good review man. Im a pretty knowlegdeable airsofter and I know a good review when i see one. I've been looking into buying one of these but they've got such a steep price tag. Oh by the way, would you happen to know if the WOC's will accept an SR15 URX made by G&P? I assume it would but you never know as they make things specifically for these GBB m4s nowadays :P Mahalo ;)
08kecarv 2 years ago
Haha, I like how it ends with "this was my quick review" after a 10 minute video.
AirsoftZealot 2 years ago
hey be nice, last person who did a full review on wa m4(father of WOC) spend 18 minutes. Most gun reviews like the NFP spends about 30-120 minutes
kullwarrior 2 years ago
do you still have your hk416, and how many rifles do you have??? good review tho
smokeyoperation 2 years ago
yes I still have the hk416. Although its in need of a piston. I also have a CA m16w/m203, TM/ ICS (made into one) mp5 sd6, Maruzen l96, UTG l96, WE dragon B5.1, cmya glock 18, and of course my WE wilson combat 1911. I had a TM s-system but I sold it.
AchilliesWar 2 years ago
are you selling anything, and for how much?
smokeyoperation 2 years ago
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Not bad, not bad at all
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