Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum states there's between 120,000,000 to 180,000,000 Muslims that support terrorism (militant Islam). Majority don't speak out against it, and it's unknown whether this is due to fear or sympathy.
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Watch “Obsession – Radical Islam’s War against the West”
2/3 I want to see you talk back the way Clair Huxtable did, and get slapped across the face consistent with [4:34] of the Qu’ran. I also want Bill’s friends to come over and play some Poker, and you disagree with one of Bill’s friends, and Bill will say, “He’s right, his word is worth twice yours, woman!” consistent with [4.11]. That Bill Cosby would be such a card! Enlightenment could not be funnier.
Katie, only if you played the Muslim wife version of Clair Huxtable. I want to see you wear a burka during the entire series, because that’s what respectful muslim women do. I want to see lots of scenes where you don’t want sex, and your “Bill Cosby” plows his fields essentially raping you consistent with [2. 223] of the Qu’ran. Damn that’s just slap-stick comedy right there!
I think both Katie and Kelly Ripa are taking low dosages of Anavar (yes, a type of steroid) or HGH, mainly because they can't stop flexing every 2 minutes. They both act like they've never had any muscle before and now that they take drugs and have grown little biceps their both like, OMG.. LOOK AT MY BICEPS!
And even though their biceps are small by todays standards where just about everyone's on steroids/hgh, for 40+ year old women to have biceps like that without drugs.. I say bs.
I once saw Katie Couric have a "fair and balanced" exchange with Ed Bradley shortly after she snagged her fat news-anchor contract. Bradley was reporting from Duke University on the "la crosse case" and he was saying that the accuser's story was starting to unravel. To that Couric replied, "Well she may have been lying, but there's no question that terrible things went on inside of that house"!
Amazing, the lib had no problem throwing those innocent (Caucasian) boys under the bus like that!!
I'd give Katie the edge in arm wrestling, but in wrestling and boxing I'd give JLo the advantage due to overall conditioning. JLo's biceps aren't too shabby themselves.
What's gross? Muscle looks great on women; it balances their physiques and sharpens their curves. Like it or not, this look is the wave of the future. Strongis the new sexy.
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Wrong. Woman with muscles make me throw up. They can have a little tone but no. When the woman is stronger than the man.. that is unattractive and un-womanly. Muscles will never be in style for woman.
Dead wrong. Muscle is part of the human body. Every woman has them. Bones wouldn't move without muscle. Some women are naturally stronger then some men. You're thinking of stereotypes and ignoring actual physiology; namelt the ectomorph-mesomorph-endomorph scale. Women mesomorphs like Katie naturally have more robust muscle development than some men. It's just genetics. Muscle is what gives women curves or the classic hourglass shape. Like it or not, lots of women celebs sport a buff look.
Take a look at the powerful physique of Gloria Estefan, Katie Couric, Elizabeth Shue, Vanessa Williams, Erika Eleniak, etc. Strong is the new sexy, and the woman strength athlete will be the woman of the 21st century. There's nothing unfeminine about strength, that's just an ignorant hang up that's on its way out the window. Muscle is in baby!
I don't want an entire fucking lecture on how woman have muscles. Yes I know that, but it is UNFEMININE to be ripped. Don't sit there and tell me muscles look hot on a woman, you sound like a feminist. I never said a little tone wasn't bad, but as far as being a bodybuilder or be ripped like this lady, it's wierd. And like most woman-body builders their boobs are distorted. Muscles have always been a "masculine" thing.
You're living in the past. What's "unfeminine" in one time is beautiful in another. What's beautiful in one time may be ugly in another. Muscles have not always been a "masculine" thing by the way. That belief didn't exist until after 1850. Muscle was never considered ugly before that. There's no such thing as "a little tone" either. Work a muscle harder than it's used to and it builds - plain and simple. You don't know history or phsiology. Katie has a mesomorph body type and she just built it.
You fail to see the contradiction of your argument. Muscle is part of the human body, and muscle development is what gives women curves. Your problem is you're the victim of an outdated macho thinking who's intimidated by strong women. Katie looks strong and healthy and there's NOTHING UNFEMININE about that. Your ego gets threateded by a strong woman. Watch this video with sound and hear how the audience cheered when Katie flexed. Like it or not, you're looing at the woman of the 21st century.
Holy shit, you DO NOT GET IT. Just because muscle is a part of the human body does mean woman having a ridicolous amount of muscle is feminine is ok. Females, for the last... what 4000+ years have always been the gender to be physically weaker and men for the last... 4000 years have gone after woman that are weaker than them. This will not change, and of course they cheered for her, they paid to fucking see her.I do not know ANY woman with muscles,they all are tradition feminine woman,unlike her
You're building an argument on a relative term. What's a ridiculous amount of muscle to you is just right to someone else (Katie is just right to me) and might be too scrawny to a third person. You need to learn your history. Celtic and Teutonic tribes have had women equal and in some cases stronger than men. Roman historians have noted this. Some Asian tribes also had strong women; read the Travels of Marco Polo for an account you might find interesting.
Yeah that was what.. 3 tribes out of the 100,000's who carried the tradition woman are physically weaker standard? As I said, woman that are muscular make up a very small SELECT few and a very small select few men find that unattractive. Yes Katy's arms are ridicolous.
We're taliking about more than just three individual tribes. There is "no physically weaker" standard either. There's only enforced stereotypes like what you're doing now - attacking Katie for having "ridiculous" biceps by creating some "normal" standard out of thin air and proceeding to condemn Katie's look as though your standard is etched somewhere in stone. Sorry, that's just circular reasoning - and it doesn't wash. Btw, women mesomorphs are more common than you think. I see them daily.
A contradiction in your argument emerges. If mesomorph women who are often more muscular than ectomorph men aren't unattractive, then why is Katie? It makes no sense since both Katie (who is a mesomorph) and other women mesomorphs have more muscle mass than male ectomporphs. Yet one is ok and another is not. Sorry, you're contradicting yourself. The standard you set is that superior muscularity to man makes a woman unattractive, but now you're saying it's ok for some women to have more mass.
If a woman as born as a mesomorph, she'll obviously be a better athelete than a ectomorph or endomorph, nothing can change that. I never said nothing is wrong with woman being bigger, personally I think thick woman are sexy but for woman to have muscle that shows, yes it is wrong. It's unwomanly and the only woman who do that are hardcore feminists who don't know their place. Heres something, Woman arnt allowed in the infantry because they can't meet the physical requirements set that men can.
Mesomorph women have muscle that shows. Women mesomorphs can have 13-14 inch biceps even without working out. When a bicep is flexed it contracts, thereby projecting. Sorry, but you're in a contradiction. On one breath you're saying there's nothing wrong with women mesomorphs but by definition they project bicep muscle. You can't have it both ways. And what's with "hardcore feminists" who don't know there place? Who decides their place, you? You're very threatened by strong women. Don't be.
Who decides their place? Over 4000 years of tradition in family roles. Mesomorph woman having 13-14 inch biceps WITHOUT working out? That's a lie, most men don't have that. The fact is woman were not built to have large amounts of muscles on them. That is why they have higher body fat ratios.
This tradition is largely a myth propagated by right wing zealots like James Dobson. Throughout most of human history women worked side by side with men; particularly in agriculture. This family model you're referring to only existed for about 120 years; particularly after the Civil War. Btw, some women mesomorphs can easily have arms 13 inch + without working out. They're on the far end of course; and most of the farm girls I've seen did manual labor as well. But 13 inch is doable.
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Your knocking down a strawman issue, an issue I never raised in the first place. My only beef is with those who think all women should be weak and not make themselves physically strong like katie does. I wasn't getting into any "battle of the sexes" issue here. You're trying to refute an imaginary argument - one I never made in the first place. It's a typical ploy by men who are intimidated by strong women. I've seen it all before.
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I agree, enough is enough. Women are going to be what they want to be from now on, and they're not going to allow insecure men put them in boxes anymore. The days of barefoot and pregnant are over. It doesn't matter at all to me which sex is in general the stronger; it's a moot point. I just get tired of seeing women put down because they want to be something that some men still living in the Victorian era don't want them to be.
As I said your speaking and your ideals sound to me like your a "feminist", people who basically want woman to be more like men/masculine. And that is dead wrong. I'm for equal rights, equal oppurtunity but there will ALWAYS be a place for woman and men in society. Woman are naturally unaggressive and physically weaker(not saying they are inferior) and men have always been the aggressors. The 21st century will be different but with the same traditional princples as the last 4,000.
This has nothing to do with feminism at all. It has to do with humanism; the idea that each person can be the best at what he or she wants to be. You're building your case on outdated sex roles that are on their way to the garbage. Women aren't always physically weaker. That's just another stereotype that's being destroyed. Like it or not, the strong woman is here to stay and will be the ideal woman of the next century. It's already started and your macho ideas are yesterday's news.
Woman can look healthy, then can be "tone" but soon as their muscle starts bulging, their outcasts and make up a small select few. Ok, what would you think of a man that had barely any biceps and was physically weak. You would consider him.. un-"manly" it's the same exact situation as where a woman with muscles is "un-feminine". My look is not outdated, your view is just not real or ever going to happen.
You're stereotyping and nothing more. I wouldn't think of a man with scrawny biceps as unmanly at all. Some men have scrawny biceps because they have ectomorph body types. That's just the luck of the genetic draw. So why would I reach the assinine conclusion he's "unmanly" because he was at the shallow end of the gene pool for muscle development? Conversely, women mesomophs will often have "bulging" (a relative term btw) biceps because they're genetically gifted with robust muscle development.
Ectomorphs can get biceps, I'm more of a "mesomorph", V shape basically but anyways. Yes I have seen "mesomorph" woman, they are fine, look. If you want to work out and be a bulging muscular be my guest. But every guy I know, finds that ugly and unattractive. Also, most Mesomorph woman don't build their muscles because they don't want to look manly.
No one said endomorphs can't get biceps. They just don't have the genetic gift a mesomorph does. Btw, I doubt if you hear those terms before I mentioned them:-)Most men I know don't find Katie unattractive at all. Most men I know prize strong well built women like Katie. Muscle is part of the human body and there's nothing masculine about it all. Muscular and masculine aren't the same thing. There's nothing manly about Katie, only insecure men have a problem with her look.
Your talking to some wierd fucking men then. Muscular woman are very uncommon. I never said it's bad to be "tone" but for a woman muscles to show, or bulge, yes it is UNFEMINE. Stop saying muscles are part of the human body, we all know that. But that doesn't mean a woman can put on 100lbs in muscles and expect to be attractive. Fact is most men today rather have the skinny, physically inferior woman. Thus thats why in the top 100 sexiest woman in the world, few have muscles like this woman.
There's nothing weird at all about them. They're just men who live in the year 2008, where strong is sexy and buff is beautiful. Like I said, you never heard of terms like mesomorph until I used them. Your standard of what's "feminine" is outdated. You have no knowledge of history. Katie's look is emerging as the new standard of beauty. Moreover, nobody can put on 100lbs of muscle without massive amounts of drugs like Dianabol. So your argument is a strawman. Did Katie put on 100lbs of muscle?
Mesomorph is a common term. The three body types are Endomorph,Ectomorph, and Mesomorph. Jesus man I threw out a number, didn't mean 100lbs just THREW it out there. Tone is where you have a flat stomach, not much fat, not much muscle. Basically condition does this to you. Woman should be "tone", not buff. Many men shouldn't be buff, put it this way. I rather be, as a man, a little buff and tone, then have a ridicolous ammount of muscle on my body.
Yes, there're three basic body types, and you know that because I told you:-) As for you just throwing out a number, it might be a good idea to think beforehand about what number you want to throw. There is no such thing as "tone" If you work any muscle harder than it's used to it builds. Moreover, you're in another contradiction. Earlier you argued being buff makes a man manly. Since you now say many men shouldn't be buff, are you now saying many men shouldn't be "manly?"
Sigh... you never ever spoke of Endomorphs and nearly everybody is not a specific body type, most are mixed. And not really, I needed to know what workouts would be best for my body type, mesomorphs = watching what you eat and vigorous workouts. Sigh, I said a little buff, I'm talking about these people who's veins pop out and shit. That's unhealthy.
Most body types fall between ectos, mesos, and endos. Those three are just archetypes or references. As far as veins popping out, that has more to do with body fat percentage; particularly when that percentage approaches 5%. Katie btw in that pic has a much higher body fat percent; that's why there's muscle size but not visible veins.
Your problem is that you're threatened by physically strong women. For most of history physically strong women were prized for a simple reason: the main mode of production for most of human history was agriculture. Stick women don't do to well in farming. Actually, the notion that the ideal woman is supposed to be weak started on Southern plantation where the "lady" of the house was idealized as frail and unable to do hard work - work women had been doing for the previous 5000 years.
What do you mean work woman had been doing for the past 5000 years? They've always been home-care-takers. While the men hunted they took care of the kids,home/cave/house, and made the food. Why did they have this role? Because they can get "pregnant", wouldn't make sense for a pregnant woman to go hunting. I'm not physicall threatened by strong woman, they're just gross and out of place.
No they haven't always been home-care-takers. Peasant women in agriculture have done the same work men have for millenia. See the farm girls in the northern part of my county - they have arm mucsles that make Katie's arm look like twigs. And there's no reason why a woman can't hunt when she's not pregnant. Your ego is threatened by strong women; there's nothing gross about them. They're sexy! Here's another thing sexy about strong women: they decide their place - the sexiest thing of all!
And what country are you from? Because in most developed countries people rarely do the grunt work anymore, machines replaced them. My ego is not threatened by strong woman, it's just unattractive seeing a woman who can lift a lot. As I said, woman and men will always have gender roles, they have not changed since mankind civilizations and will not change in the future. Stop trying to say shit has changed because nothing has, woman still have generally "passive" careers. Secretaries,nurses,etc
I'm from the USA. And why is it unattractive to see a woman who can lift a lot? I'm currently in love witth a woman who was a top powerlifter in the early 90s and she's beautiful. Gender roles aren't set in stone. Teaching was a man's job once, then it became a woman's job. You're history largely skewed by cartoon stereotypes. Things are changing because women are now MMA fighters, police, firefighters, engineers, etc. The world is changing, and women are doing what they want now.
Teaching was a men's job before BUT teaching is not an "aggressive" job and is not a very physical job. Woman have been teachers, their moms, which are basically the 1st teachers kids get, so it fit them. Firefighters? No, a woman cannot strap on all that gear, withstand 110+ degrees and expect to chop down a door, I would say around .2% of woman could do that. Police, yes they are there but not many, engineers is a brainwork job. Woman are getting more college careers, but not physical work.
Teaching was a man's job because the realm of the mind was considered a man's place even more so than the realm of physicality in some times. As to firefighters, I've seen some women who could carry most men without straining. Some real she-beasts! These women spend hours a week in the gym and make Katie Couric look like Kate Moss!
Exactly my point. Where woman must spend days and hours in a gym just to try and barely resemble what a man could do in a less ammount of time. Haven't you noticed most of these woman who are body builders are wealthy? Using state of the art workouts to just achieve these "muscles". And no, I have never known or seen a woman firefighter.
I've seen women firefighters, they're increasing in number in the U.S. San Jose has a big powerful Ukranian girl named Elena who wrestled up to state championship finals and who beat a male co-worker in an armwrestling match. She competed last season on American Gladiators - her profile should still be on that web site.
As I've said, very very few woman can be a firefighter, maybe 1 in a 1,000. Ones with masculine features. Most woman are under 150lbs and are 5'5''. The average man is 6' and 180lbs. Again, you just have to face the facts, men are built for more physical work than woman. It isn't a bad thing, just woman were never meant to be physical.
Most of the women firefighters I've seen had nothing manish about them. They were just strong, and there's no rule women can't be strong. Tradition has no authority. If it did slavery and the burning of "witches" would still be justified. The idea that women were never meant to be physical isn't a fact. It's a social construct, and that's the problem you have with Katie - she and others are proving your "fact" wrong every day. Women are getting physical, and a new day is dawning.
Put it this way, jesus I'm getting tired of explaining this to you. If you take an average male and average female, and have them both workout the same workout, the male will be stronger. Why? Because on average he weighs more and is taller. He has testosterone and adrenaline that makes the male naturally aggressive. Not saying woman arn't aggressive, just not as much as men. Jeez, do you get it now? It's like looking at male and female gurillas, the males are bigger and protect the herd.
Look at the male and female preying mantis - the female is much larger and eats the male after mating. Now that's a female domination trip of nature! Seriously tho, the issue of whether the average male or female human would be stronger after the same workout is hardly the same question as whether the female should be *allowed* to do the same workout as the male. That's all I'm saying. Let Katie and other women who want to be strong pursue being strong. I love strong women, that's all.
As you well know, we are not "preying mantis's" and as mammals, NORMALLY the male is bigger and stronger. I love woman as you do to, but your point is what my point is. A woman can be strong, but it takes more effort and a man doesn't have to work as hard to be stronger. Thus resulting in gender roles, men taking more physical jobs and woman using their brains. I've yet to see a woman construction worker, it's just a mans job just as many nurses are not men(again with the exception of a few).
First, I was pointing out the problems that result from cherry-picking examples to prove a point. I've seen women construction workers, women firefighters, and some women cops who'd scare me into saying: "Yes maam!" And they definately looked like maams too!
Respond to the two big comments only k. I will agree woman are doing more career wise, that I don't care about, it's fine they want to do more, but were having problems with families now more than ever. One because woman arn't staying home anymore and Two because cost of living is high causing woman to work more. Hell I'd love to be a stay-at-home dad, so I don't know what woman complain about. Woman still have roles though, men are the risk takers, thats a good and a bad thing..
When I mentioned that women are doing more that's part of the overall change I'm referring to. Also, like you said, the cost of living requires a two income household.
Blaming working women for street crime results in scapegoating that overlooks a much more complicated dynamic. Unions were busted in the U.S., and free trade agreements caused our manufacturing jobs to be shipped overseas. What's left is mostly service and low-paying paraprofessional jobs that don't pay enough by themselves to support a household of four. Let's not blame a woman who wants to better herself for the actions of some punk kids.
Lol, manufacturing jobs are shipped overseas but those jobs don't pay shit, that's exactly why they were shipped overseas, low unskilled labor can do it. America has the proffesional jobs, we design products, and invent where China just makes Barbie dolls. And no, the new family structure is causing an increase in crime. It's common sense that if you don't watch kids and punish them when they do something bad, they'll continue to do so as they mature. 50 years ago it was good crime wise.
Jobs that payed between 15 to 25 dollars an hour were shipped overseas. If that falls within your definition of a "shit" wage then so be it. You're simply trying to scapegoat working women for juvenile crime when many of these women are forced to work to keep a roof over their heads. As far as watching kids go they are watched - by the school system which has become the new day care. Kids are required to attend school by law you know. They are being watched - I'm one of the watchers.
The school system in the U.S.A. is a fucking joke, that's why were in.. 27th or something like that place in the world who still have traditional gender roles and don't expect our school system to do what parents should be doing. Your exactly right though, schools are the new day cares, it's gotten that bad.
The school system does do something that most parents can do: educate (or try to anyway) kids. Moreover, you keep pushing traditional gender roles. Ever since women got the vote those traditional roles are being dismantled. More and more women are saying no to tradition. That's the spirit of the age. As for me, tradition has no authority. If tradition was infallible then slavery would be justified.
What do you mean since they've been able to vote gender roles have changed? Many woman STILL vote based on their husbands decision. It wouldn't be very peaceful in a household father to be a republican and a democrat mom.
Another problem with your argument is the myth of "toning" a muscle. There's no such thing as toning a muscle. To make a muscle more efficient you have to work it harder than it's normally used to. When anyone does that it will project when flexed. There's nothing unfeminine about a woman like Katie who can project a bicep. Women mesomorphs naturally do this. The idea that it's somehow unfeminine is just a lame hang up. Women are deciding for themselves what' "feminine" - not men anymore.
the best celeb flex of all time. katies biceps are unbelievably huge for her size. id love to see the entire leno/ couric flex it was almost 30 sec she talked about her guns too
I like when she flexes for me
I don't like when she takes my lunch money
BlackDynamiteNYC 2 months ago
Impressive!!
funkbrother216 7 months ago
Wow! I dare say, Katie is looking good here! Nice body.
yourepissinmeoff 7 months ago
Muscle chicks r hot. Yeow.
blope332 9 months ago
yes she is hot i just saw andrea mitchell are there any clips of her - she has muscles - hope some one reads this
realfunny7 9 months ago
She is one hot MILF in this video!
Satchel334 11 months ago
VERY FUCKABLE
swguy2006 1 year ago
Katie is so damn sexy even now. I wish she never left the Today show. You get almost no opportunity to check out those legs anymore. :)
Greystud11 1 year ago
3/3
Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum states there's between 120,000,000 to 180,000,000 Muslims that support terrorism (militant Islam). Majority don't speak out against it, and it's unknown whether this is due to fear or sympathy.
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Watch “Obsession – Radical Islam’s War against the West”
FreedomInAmerica 1 year ago
2/3 I want to see you talk back the way Clair Huxtable did, and get slapped across the face consistent with [4:34] of the Qu’ran. I also want Bill’s friends to come over and play some Poker, and you disagree with one of Bill’s friends, and Bill will say, “He’s right, his word is worth twice yours, woman!” consistent with [4.11]. That Bill Cosby would be such a card! Enlightenment could not be funnier.
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Allen West 2012
FreedomInAmerica 1 year ago
Katie about your Muslim Cosby Show idea
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Katie, only if you played the Muslim wife version of Clair Huxtable. I want to see you wear a burka during the entire series, because that’s what respectful muslim women do. I want to see lots of scenes where you don’t want sex, and your “Bill Cosby” plows his fields essentially raping you consistent with [2. 223] of the Qu’ran. Damn that’s just slap-stick comedy right there!
FreedomInAmerica 1 year ago
Can she do something about that gumline of hers?...Like watching a horse when she smiles....annoying....
mianewyork 1 year ago
I want to worship her muscles...yum!
wngnut5 1 year ago
why is this bitch so overpaid????
fornow100000 1 year ago
I think both Katie and Kelly Ripa are taking low dosages of Anavar (yes, a type of steroid) or HGH, mainly because they can't stop flexing every 2 minutes. They both act like they've never had any muscle before and now that they take drugs and have grown little biceps their both like, OMG.. LOOK AT MY BICEPS!
And even though their biceps are small by todays standards where just about everyone's on steroids/hgh, for 40+ year old women to have biceps like that without drugs.. I say bs.
SexualStrat 1 year ago
I like women who can beat my ass!
fightingirishfan08 1 year ago
Nice dress.She must have been intending to go clubbing for minority monster-cock after the show.
KochieButtersmack 1 year ago 60
@KochieButtersmack I put my minority monster cock right in her wet vaginia and slipped it in her ass my accident.
stackleft 1 year ago 2
@KochieButtersmack Cougar
Homade79 1 year ago
@KochieButtersmack Seriously, you couldn't blame anyone for being interested in her. She is looking great!
yourepissinmeoff 7 months ago
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KochieButtersmack 1 year ago
I once saw Katie Couric have a "fair and balanced" exchange with Ed Bradley shortly after she snagged her fat news-anchor contract. Bradley was reporting from Duke University on the "la crosse case" and he was saying that the accuser's story was starting to unravel. To that Couric replied, "Well she may have been lying, but there's no question that terrible things went on inside of that house"!
Amazing, the lib had no problem throwing those innocent (Caucasian) boys under the bus like that!!
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
Katie must have an army of standbys who fuck the living shit out of her on command. And if not... I volunteer :)
Greystud11 1 year ago
Don't fuck with Katie
Ken9284 1 year ago
God Katie is hot as hell.
MrPontiusPilate 1 year ago
Well with guns like that we all now know Katie can not only kick Sara Palins ass in an interview, but she could kick her ass in a cat fight.
justheskyabove 1 year ago
OH HSIT!!!!?!?!? = c 0
str8doinyurmom 1 year ago
I'm impressed. Very nice
bptaylor11 2 years ago
My Dream Girl......her arms and legs would be my joy and song for my whole life......Absolutely Wonderful.....Thanks !
TheBassplayah 2 years ago
does anyone know what date this was made?
studinthemaking 2 years ago
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How is she "left-biased"? Because she asked that dumbass Sarah Palin what newspapers she reads, and the retard failed to hit the softball?
WOW! "WHAT NEWSPAPER DO YOU READ?" WHAT A TOUGH QUESTION!
alysluv 2 years ago
Shouldn't be hot
But it is!
toyotas2006 2 years ago
@toyotas2006 Totally agree
Ken9284 1 year ago
hot damn
frankystein12 2 years ago 5
Okay now I would seriously hit that........Ms Katie Couric that is.
largec 2 years ago 4
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D A M N ! ! !
replicadepot 2 years ago
would love to have this milf wrap her muscled arms around me - that's some woman
realfunny7 2 years ago 5
dam she sexxy
tony2crunk 2 years ago 2
Look at all those comments. Damn, bitches never shut up even on youtube.
PSPfanBOY22 2 years ago 4
whoa she's got teh buffnes here
marpoq 2 years ago
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She has since turned into a real LIBERAL monster.
abalto 2 years ago
M-I-L-F-
kiknthballs 3 years ago 5
Ahh, this was back when she was really working out and making herself beautiful by NATURAL means.
Before she started "cheating" and using all that botox which made her face look utterly unnatural.
RonQE 3 years ago
wow she have 2 pretty sexy boobs
bestamerica 3 years ago
oh my god, i saw her legs and noticed they were nice and tone but damn, she's got nice arms too.
ratedtriplex 3 years ago 8
Oh please, JLo is from The Bronx, and recently completed a triathlon. She can kick Katies ass. I wouldn't even want to piss off JLo.
jethrodassam 3 years ago
Yes, JLo's physique looked highly impressive for that tri. Her biceps were as defined as Katie's. Lets have more buff women!
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
So who do you think would win at arm wrestling, boxing, wresting, catfight?
jethrodassam 3 years ago
I'd give Katie the edge in arm wrestling, but in wrestling and boxing I'd give JLo the advantage due to overall conditioning. JLo's biceps aren't too shabby themselves.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
J-Lo's would get her fat ass beat in. Katie could suffocate her with those biceps!
alysluv 2 years ago 2
I wonder if there are any clips of her doing her boxing training with Christy "Code Red" Nickel? That would be cool , too.
nistor2000 3 years ago
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fucking gross!
and i hate this leftist biased cunt
4zion4life 3 years ago
What's gross? Muscle looks great on women; it balances their physiques and sharpens their curves. Like it or not, this look is the wave of the future. Strongis the new sexy.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago 3
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Wrong. Woman with muscles make me throw up. They can have a little tone but no. When the woman is stronger than the man.. that is unattractive and un-womanly. Muscles will never be in style for woman.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Dead wrong. Muscle is part of the human body. Every woman has them. Bones wouldn't move without muscle. Some women are naturally stronger then some men. You're thinking of stereotypes and ignoring actual physiology; namelt the ectomorph-mesomorph-endomorph scale. Women mesomorphs like Katie naturally have more robust muscle development than some men. It's just genetics. Muscle is what gives women curves or the classic hourglass shape. Like it or not, lots of women celebs sport a buff look.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Take a look at the powerful physique of Gloria Estefan, Katie Couric, Elizabeth Shue, Vanessa Williams, Erika Eleniak, etc. Strong is the new sexy, and the woman strength athlete will be the woman of the 21st century. There's nothing unfeminine about strength, that's just an ignorant hang up that's on its way out the window. Muscle is in baby!
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
I don't want an entire fucking lecture on how woman have muscles. Yes I know that, but it is UNFEMININE to be ripped. Don't sit there and tell me muscles look hot on a woman, you sound like a feminist. I never said a little tone wasn't bad, but as far as being a bodybuilder or be ripped like this lady, it's wierd. And like most woman-body builders their boobs are distorted. Muscles have always been a "masculine" thing.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
You're living in the past. What's "unfeminine" in one time is beautiful in another. What's beautiful in one time may be ugly in another. Muscles have not always been a "masculine" thing by the way. That belief didn't exist until after 1850. Muscle was never considered ugly before that. There's no such thing as "a little tone" either. Work a muscle harder than it's used to and it builds - plain and simple. You don't know history or phsiology. Katie has a mesomorph body type and she just built it.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
You fail to see the contradiction of your argument. Muscle is part of the human body, and muscle development is what gives women curves. Your problem is you're the victim of an outdated macho thinking who's intimidated by strong women. Katie looks strong and healthy and there's NOTHING UNFEMININE about that. Your ego gets threateded by a strong woman. Watch this video with sound and hear how the audience cheered when Katie flexed. Like it or not, you're looing at the woman of the 21st century.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Holy shit, you DO NOT GET IT. Just because muscle is a part of the human body does mean woman having a ridicolous amount of muscle is feminine is ok. Females, for the last... what 4000+ years have always been the gender to be physically weaker and men for the last... 4000 years have gone after woman that are weaker than them. This will not change, and of course they cheered for her, they paid to fucking see her.I do not know ANY woman with muscles,they all are tradition feminine woman,unlike her
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
You're building an argument on a relative term. What's a ridiculous amount of muscle to you is just right to someone else (Katie is just right to me) and might be too scrawny to a third person. You need to learn your history. Celtic and Teutonic tribes have had women equal and in some cases stronger than men. Roman historians have noted this. Some Asian tribes also had strong women; read the Travels of Marco Polo for an account you might find interesting.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Yeah that was what.. 3 tribes out of the 100,000's who carried the tradition woman are physically weaker standard? As I said, woman that are muscular make up a very small SELECT few and a very small select few men find that unattractive. Yes Katy's arms are ridicolous.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
We're taliking about more than just three individual tribes. There is "no physically weaker" standard either. There's only enforced stereotypes like what you're doing now - attacking Katie for having "ridiculous" biceps by creating some "normal" standard out of thin air and proceeding to condemn Katie's look as though your standard is etched somewhere in stone. Sorry, that's just circular reasoning - and it doesn't wash. Btw, women mesomorphs are more common than you think. I see them daily.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
I know woman that are mesomorphs, nothing wrong with it. But soon as they start packing on muscles like this, then it's unattractive.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
A contradiction in your argument emerges. If mesomorph women who are often more muscular than ectomorph men aren't unattractive, then why is Katie? It makes no sense since both Katie (who is a mesomorph) and other women mesomorphs have more muscle mass than male ectomporphs. Yet one is ok and another is not. Sorry, you're contradicting yourself. The standard you set is that superior muscularity to man makes a woman unattractive, but now you're saying it's ok for some women to have more mass.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
If a woman as born as a mesomorph, she'll obviously be a better athelete than a ectomorph or endomorph, nothing can change that. I never said nothing is wrong with woman being bigger, personally I think thick woman are sexy but for woman to have muscle that shows, yes it is wrong. It's unwomanly and the only woman who do that are hardcore feminists who don't know their place. Heres something, Woman arnt allowed in the infantry because they can't meet the physical requirements set that men can.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Mesomorph women have muscle that shows. Women mesomorphs can have 13-14 inch biceps even without working out. When a bicep is flexed it contracts, thereby projecting. Sorry, but you're in a contradiction. On one breath you're saying there's nothing wrong with women mesomorphs but by definition they project bicep muscle. You can't have it both ways. And what's with "hardcore feminists" who don't know there place? Who decides their place, you? You're very threatened by strong women. Don't be.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Who decides their place? Over 4000 years of tradition in family roles. Mesomorph woman having 13-14 inch biceps WITHOUT working out? That's a lie, most men don't have that. The fact is woman were not built to have large amounts of muscles on them. That is why they have higher body fat ratios.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
This tradition is largely a myth propagated by right wing zealots like James Dobson. Throughout most of human history women worked side by side with men; particularly in agriculture. This family model you're referring to only existed for about 120 years; particularly after the Civil War. Btw, some women mesomorphs can easily have arms 13 inch + without working out. They're on the far end of course; and most of the farm girls I've seen did manual labor as well. But 13 inch is doable.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Eh i would say around a 1,000 or more. Europe was like that forever
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Extended families were more the norm than the nuclear model. Extended families were more stable and had more shoulders to lean on.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
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Enough is enough.
Put the worlds strongest men, against world strongest women ... see who's stronger. Go ahead, bet on the woman.
Better yet, find me a woman who can run like Usain Bolt. I dare you.
Don't you get it .... men in general are stronger than woman. It's a fact. Look around you.
If you are not convinced, name your chick, and I'll find a guy bigger stronger faster than her.
Still not convinced? Find a woman who can dunk on Lebron James. I dare you.
Ciao.
erchan2000 2 years ago
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Your knocking down a strawman issue, an issue I never raised in the first place. My only beef is with those who think all women should be weak and not make themselves physically strong like katie does. I wasn't getting into any "battle of the sexes" issue here. You're trying to refute an imaginary argument - one I never made in the first place. It's a typical ploy by men who are intimidated by strong women. I've seen it all before.
gallerian1fsf 2 years ago
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I agree, enough is enough. Women are going to be what they want to be from now on, and they're not going to allow insecure men put them in boxes anymore. The days of barefoot and pregnant are over. It doesn't matter at all to me which sex is in general the stronger; it's a moot point. I just get tired of seeing women put down because they want to be something that some men still living in the Victorian era don't want them to be.
Ciao
gallerian1fsf 2 years ago
Men = Muscular Strength
Women = Overall flexibility
joeyfrancais 2 years ago
As I said your speaking and your ideals sound to me like your a "feminist", people who basically want woman to be more like men/masculine. And that is dead wrong. I'm for equal rights, equal oppurtunity but there will ALWAYS be a place for woman and men in society. Woman are naturally unaggressive and physically weaker(not saying they are inferior) and men have always been the aggressors. The 21st century will be different but with the same traditional princples as the last 4,000.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
This has nothing to do with feminism at all. It has to do with humanism; the idea that each person can be the best at what he or she wants to be. You're building your case on outdated sex roles that are on their way to the garbage. Women aren't always physically weaker. That's just another stereotype that's being destroyed. Like it or not, the strong woman is here to stay and will be the ideal woman of the next century. It's already started and your macho ideas are yesterday's news.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Woman can look healthy, then can be "tone" but soon as their muscle starts bulging, their outcasts and make up a small select few. Ok, what would you think of a man that had barely any biceps and was physically weak. You would consider him.. un-"manly" it's the same exact situation as where a woman with muscles is "un-feminine". My look is not outdated, your view is just not real or ever going to happen.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
You're stereotyping and nothing more. I wouldn't think of a man with scrawny biceps as unmanly at all. Some men have scrawny biceps because they have ectomorph body types. That's just the luck of the genetic draw. So why would I reach the assinine conclusion he's "unmanly" because he was at the shallow end of the gene pool for muscle development? Conversely, women mesomophs will often have "bulging" (a relative term btw) biceps because they're genetically gifted with robust muscle development.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Ectomorphs can get biceps, I'm more of a "mesomorph", V shape basically but anyways. Yes I have seen "mesomorph" woman, they are fine, look. If you want to work out and be a bulging muscular be my guest. But every guy I know, finds that ugly and unattractive. Also, most Mesomorph woman don't build their muscles because they don't want to look manly.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
No one said endomorphs can't get biceps. They just don't have the genetic gift a mesomorph does. Btw, I doubt if you hear those terms before I mentioned them:-)Most men I know don't find Katie unattractive at all. Most men I know prize strong well built women like Katie. Muscle is part of the human body and there's nothing masculine about it all. Muscular and masculine aren't the same thing. There's nothing manly about Katie, only insecure men have a problem with her look.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Your talking to some wierd fucking men then. Muscular woman are very uncommon. I never said it's bad to be "tone" but for a woman muscles to show, or bulge, yes it is UNFEMINE. Stop saying muscles are part of the human body, we all know that. But that doesn't mean a woman can put on 100lbs in muscles and expect to be attractive. Fact is most men today rather have the skinny, physically inferior woman. Thus thats why in the top 100 sexiest woman in the world, few have muscles like this woman.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
There's nothing weird at all about them. They're just men who live in the year 2008, where strong is sexy and buff is beautiful. Like I said, you never heard of terms like mesomorph until I used them. Your standard of what's "feminine" is outdated. You have no knowledge of history. Katie's look is emerging as the new standard of beauty. Moreover, nobody can put on 100lbs of muscle without massive amounts of drugs like Dianabol. So your argument is a strawman. Did Katie put on 100lbs of muscle?
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Mesomorph is a common term. The three body types are Endomorph,Ectomorph, and Mesomorph. Jesus man I threw out a number, didn't mean 100lbs just THREW it out there. Tone is where you have a flat stomach, not much fat, not much muscle. Basically condition does this to you. Woman should be "tone", not buff. Many men shouldn't be buff, put it this way. I rather be, as a man, a little buff and tone, then have a ridicolous ammount of muscle on my body.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Yes, there're three basic body types, and you know that because I told you:-) As for you just throwing out a number, it might be a good idea to think beforehand about what number you want to throw. There is no such thing as "tone" If you work any muscle harder than it's used to it builds. Moreover, you're in another contradiction. Earlier you argued being buff makes a man manly. Since you now say many men shouldn't be buff, are you now saying many men shouldn't be "manly?"
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Sigh... you never ever spoke of Endomorphs and nearly everybody is not a specific body type, most are mixed. And not really, I needed to know what workouts would be best for my body type, mesomorphs = watching what you eat and vigorous workouts. Sigh, I said a little buff, I'm talking about these people who's veins pop out and shit. That's unhealthy.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Most body types fall between ectos, mesos, and endos. Those three are just archetypes or references. As far as veins popping out, that has more to do with body fat percentage; particularly when that percentage approaches 5%. Katie btw in that pic has a much higher body fat percent; that's why there's muscle size but not visible veins.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Yeah, I rather have a medium body fat % and muscle showing, basically it shows your normal but buff.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Your problem is that you're threatened by physically strong women. For most of history physically strong women were prized for a simple reason: the main mode of production for most of human history was agriculture. Stick women don't do to well in farming. Actually, the notion that the ideal woman is supposed to be weak started on Southern plantation where the "lady" of the house was idealized as frail and unable to do hard work - work women had been doing for the previous 5000 years.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
What do you mean work woman had been doing for the past 5000 years? They've always been home-care-takers. While the men hunted they took care of the kids,home/cave/house, and made the food. Why did they have this role? Because they can get "pregnant", wouldn't make sense for a pregnant woman to go hunting. I'm not physicall threatened by strong woman, they're just gross and out of place.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
No they haven't always been home-care-takers. Peasant women in agriculture have done the same work men have for millenia. See the farm girls in the northern part of my county - they have arm mucsles that make Katie's arm look like twigs. And there's no reason why a woman can't hunt when she's not pregnant. Your ego is threatened by strong women; there's nothing gross about them. They're sexy! Here's another thing sexy about strong women: they decide their place - the sexiest thing of all!
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
And what country are you from? Because in most developed countries people rarely do the grunt work anymore, machines replaced them. My ego is not threatened by strong woman, it's just unattractive seeing a woman who can lift a lot. As I said, woman and men will always have gender roles, they have not changed since mankind civilizations and will not change in the future. Stop trying to say shit has changed because nothing has, woman still have generally "passive" careers. Secretaries,nurses,etc
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
I'm from the USA. And why is it unattractive to see a woman who can lift a lot? I'm currently in love witth a woman who was a top powerlifter in the early 90s and she's beautiful. Gender roles aren't set in stone. Teaching was a man's job once, then it became a woman's job. You're history largely skewed by cartoon stereotypes. Things are changing because women are now MMA fighters, police, firefighters, engineers, etc. The world is changing, and women are doing what they want now.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Teaching was a men's job before BUT teaching is not an "aggressive" job and is not a very physical job. Woman have been teachers, their moms, which are basically the 1st teachers kids get, so it fit them. Firefighters? No, a woman cannot strap on all that gear, withstand 110+ degrees and expect to chop down a door, I would say around .2% of woman could do that. Police, yes they are there but not many, engineers is a brainwork job. Woman are getting more college careers, but not physical work.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Teaching was a man's job because the realm of the mind was considered a man's place even more so than the realm of physicality in some times. As to firefighters, I've seen some women who could carry most men without straining. Some real she-beasts! These women spend hours a week in the gym and make Katie Couric look like Kate Moss!
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Exactly my point. Where woman must spend days and hours in a gym just to try and barely resemble what a man could do in a less ammount of time. Haven't you noticed most of these woman who are body builders are wealthy? Using state of the art workouts to just achieve these "muscles". And no, I have never known or seen a woman firefighter.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
I've seen women firefighters, they're increasing in number in the U.S. San Jose has a big powerful Ukranian girl named Elena who wrestled up to state championship finals and who beat a male co-worker in an armwrestling match. She competed last season on American Gladiators - her profile should still be on that web site.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
As I've said, very very few woman can be a firefighter, maybe 1 in a 1,000. Ones with masculine features. Most woman are under 150lbs and are 5'5''. The average man is 6' and 180lbs. Again, you just have to face the facts, men are built for more physical work than woman. It isn't a bad thing, just woman were never meant to be physical.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Most of the women firefighters I've seen had nothing manish about them. They were just strong, and there's no rule women can't be strong. Tradition has no authority. If it did slavery and the burning of "witches" would still be justified. The idea that women were never meant to be physical isn't a fact. It's a social construct, and that's the problem you have with Katie - she and others are proving your "fact" wrong every day. Women are getting physical, and a new day is dawning.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Put it this way, jesus I'm getting tired of explaining this to you. If you take an average male and average female, and have them both workout the same workout, the male will be stronger. Why? Because on average he weighs more and is taller. He has testosterone and adrenaline that makes the male naturally aggressive. Not saying woman arn't aggressive, just not as much as men. Jeez, do you get it now? It's like looking at male and female gurillas, the males are bigger and protect the herd.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Look at the male and female preying mantis - the female is much larger and eats the male after mating. Now that's a female domination trip of nature! Seriously tho, the issue of whether the average male or female human would be stronger after the same workout is hardly the same question as whether the female should be *allowed* to do the same workout as the male. That's all I'm saying. Let Katie and other women who want to be strong pursue being strong. I love strong women, that's all.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
As you well know, we are not "preying mantis's" and as mammals, NORMALLY the male is bigger and stronger. I love woman as you do to, but your point is what my point is. A woman can be strong, but it takes more effort and a man doesn't have to work as hard to be stronger. Thus resulting in gender roles, men taking more physical jobs and woman using their brains. I've yet to see a woman construction worker, it's just a mans job just as many nurses are not men(again with the exception of a few).
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
First, I was pointing out the problems that result from cherry-picking examples to prove a point. I've seen women construction workers, women firefighters, and some women cops who'd scare me into saying: "Yes maam!" And they definately looked like maams too!
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Respond to the two big comments only k. I will agree woman are doing more career wise, that I don't care about, it's fine they want to do more, but were having problems with families now more than ever. One because woman arn't staying home anymore and Two because cost of living is high causing woman to work more. Hell I'd love to be a stay-at-home dad, so I don't know what woman complain about. Woman still have roles though, men are the risk takers, thats a good and a bad thing..
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
When I mentioned that women are doing more that's part of the overall change I'm referring to. Also, like you said, the cost of living requires a two income household.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Thus resulting in woman working and crime going through the roof because nobody is home to watch the kids.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Blaming working women for street crime results in scapegoating that overlooks a much more complicated dynamic. Unions were busted in the U.S., and free trade agreements caused our manufacturing jobs to be shipped overseas. What's left is mostly service and low-paying paraprofessional jobs that don't pay enough by themselves to support a household of four. Let's not blame a woman who wants to better herself for the actions of some punk kids.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
Lol, manufacturing jobs are shipped overseas but those jobs don't pay shit, that's exactly why they were shipped overseas, low unskilled labor can do it. America has the proffesional jobs, we design products, and invent where China just makes Barbie dolls. And no, the new family structure is causing an increase in crime. It's common sense that if you don't watch kids and punish them when they do something bad, they'll continue to do so as they mature. 50 years ago it was good crime wise.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
Jobs that payed between 15 to 25 dollars an hour were shipped overseas. If that falls within your definition of a "shit" wage then so be it. You're simply trying to scapegoat working women for juvenile crime when many of these women are forced to work to keep a roof over their heads. As far as watching kids go they are watched - by the school system which has become the new day care. Kids are required to attend school by law you know. They are being watched - I'm one of the watchers.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
The school system in the U.S.A. is a fucking joke, that's why were in.. 27th or something like that place in the world who still have traditional gender roles and don't expect our school system to do what parents should be doing. Your exactly right though, schools are the new day cares, it's gotten that bad.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
The school system does do something that most parents can do: educate (or try to anyway) kids. Moreover, you keep pushing traditional gender roles. Ever since women got the vote those traditional roles are being dismantled. More and more women are saying no to tradition. That's the spirit of the age. As for me, tradition has no authority. If tradition was infallible then slavery would be justified.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
What do you mean since they've been able to vote gender roles have changed? Many woman STILL vote based on their husbands decision. It wouldn't be very peaceful in a household father to be a republican and a democrat mom.
iwatchmassvideo 3 years ago
I meant that women are doing nontraditional jobs; like Katie. And many women don't vote the way their husbands do. They vote how they want.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
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No one says that a woman can't do what a man does .... but when it comes to hunting and gathering ... men does it better.
You don't need to be the world's best to hunt/gather food.
We're talking about who's better. Get it?
Would you put any woman up to fight with Mike Tyson?
There' a reason why we have woman/mens division in every sporting event.
erchan2000 2 years ago
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BinAlladin 2 years ago
Another problem with your argument is the myth of "toning" a muscle. There's no such thing as toning a muscle. To make a muscle more efficient you have to work it harder than it's normally used to. When anyone does that it will project when flexed. There's nothing unfeminine about a woman like Katie who can project a bicep. Women mesomorphs naturally do this. The idea that it's somehow unfeminine is just a lame hang up. Women are deciding for themselves what' "feminine" - not men anymore.
gallerian1fsf 3 years ago
I want her soooooooooo baaaaaad !
musicbreakerz 4 years ago
the best celeb flex of all time. katies biceps are unbelievably huge for her size. id love to see the entire leno/ couric flex it was almost 30 sec she talked about her guns too
jdcruise2001 4 years ago 2
yeah if you can fidn that video please let me know i want to see that interview to!!!
comedyguy21 4 years ago