The God of the Gaps

[Tuber77]

Evidence of absence is not absence of Evidence - Carl Sagan

The God is Gaps fallacy is not a answer, Its a Cop-Out. Are Universe is to finely tuned. If there is no multiverse. Which Occam's Razor say it probably dosnt. They only lead to Two Logical conclusion. This all some accident. Or some outside influence is at play. The God in the Gaps Fallacy is just a way for atheist and science to not give any credence to religion. Nothing more, Nothing Less. And no im not religious. Im Agnostic.

[Strangerinasland]

@Tuber77 God Of The Gaps Fallacy is not an answer, it is the recognition that certain pathetic notions put forth by desperate theists are not answers but are cop outs. Very silly calling it a cop out as it is the proper recognition of a cop out. Our universe is not finely tuned. The word accident assumes intent. Where there is no intent, there are no accidents.Neither atheists nor scientisis have any goal of not giving credence to religion. No 1 has the slightest idea of the odds (cont)

[Strangerinasland]

@Tuber77 (cont) No 1 has the slightest idea of the odds of our known universe being the way it is rather than some other way. IF our known universe was created by some beings, what are the odds of those beings existing without being created? Were they accidents? IF somehow I could be outside & objectively looking at each of all the different ways the universe could possibly be, I'd have no more reason to think any must have been created but others were not. If you believe (cont)

[Vynjira]

I'm still trying to figure out why anyone believes stories written by superstitious bronze age men who didn't know of Atoms, bacteria, Computers, DNA, etc... over scientists who were able to calculate and then send people to the moon, know how light works to such a degree they can determine your blood oxygen level by passing light thru your finger, engineer their own benign viruses to attack harmful bacteria and so many other things its not funny.

[Atheistx82]

Great video. I thought about getting a Voice Synthesizer and making a God of the Gaps song, but I'm really not sure I could write the lyrics very well.

[teague67]

thats a south park canadian accent

[princessannikki]

"it must be Gaaaad" you have a funny accent! good video!

[Mikeoo17]

I liked your point about the gaps getting more complex to understand. I haven't looked into the "God of the Gaps" idea very much, but that point makes A LOT of sense.

[owchywawa]

You did present the idea of Abraham leaving the other god's incorrectly I think. I'm pretty sure Abraham did not choose one god out of existing gods, as was implied, but in favor of one which he heard calling him to find a new place to live.

[ozpowermo]

Yah, we're told that Abraham did that, but we have no clue what he knew about Gods, or even if Abraham REALLY existed... so to claim one thing or another about Abraham is a bit futile...

[DeadbeatShadows]

No, the Captain was correct. Abraham belonged to a society of polytheists (somewhere in the Fertile Crescent,I believe), and he believed that one of the Gods in particular was the only one. His people broke off, and the Jews came from his lineage. Of course, things changed after their enslavement by the Babylonians, and they took some of their stories and twisted them, but that's another matter.

[ozpowermo]

Right... has anybody provided ANY collaborative evidence for the existence of Abraham? If Abraham is as mythical as I think he is, then we might as well call him Gilgamesh! For all I know their existence is equally improbable... so for you to even ponder on what Abraham dis, saw, said or believed is utterly futile!

[DeadbeatShadows]

No, I agree that there is no real evidence for the existance of Abraham, I'm just saying what he is said to have done in mythology. I too am atheistic, no worries.

[ozpowermo]

I think we're on the same page :)

[danielnz1]

Cheers!  As Carl Sagan said,

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

And, All reasoned evidence points to natural causes for all things. There is absolutely no evidence for a supernatural god! Just superstition, which is; a belief in magic or phenomena beyond or outside of Nature! Hence religious belief is, a primitive false notion.

[danielnz1]

So, until plausible scientific evidence to the contrary, these extraordinary claims and rituals, made on behalf of some super-natural, super-vengeful abrahamic sky-god (intent on eternal hell-fire for most of his flawed Human creation) should only be practiced as a personal choice with consenting adults in privacy! And, far away from susceptible minds of growing children.

[LuvNewYork2]

Sorry but your history is wrong. Before you make a claim that the church came around with the idea of "ONE GOD" is FALSE. I don't have time to school you on real history but check the ancient egyptians. You will see the Pharaoh who was the original of the idea of ONE GOD. Youll will also know that greeks and romans took all knowledge from africa and mesopotamia area. Medicine - Imhotep I could go on and on. FACTS not fiction like you're presenting.

[CapnOrdinary]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, did I say the christian church came up with the idea of a single god? Did I? I don't THINK so. Watch the video again, but this time, pay attention.

[MrSammo1]

Great video!

Watch the video Zeitgeist!

[CapnOrdinary]

No thanks, I like to keep my brain cells awake. Zeitgeist is a waste of bits, it's ill researched, it's a hack, its only sources are conspiracy websites, and although I agree with the general conclusion on religion (ie. it's made up), the rest of the movie is worthless.

[MrSammo1]

To each......his own.

It beats the hell out of supernatural nonsense.

[CapnOrdinary]

Well, I'd say nonsense is still nonsense, whether it's supernatural or not. I prefer research, unfortunately not a trait apparently valued by the Zeitgeist movie crew.

[Chibling]

I second that, evidence is necessary... always be skeptical of conspiracy theories

[Atheistx82]

@CapnOrdinary LMAO! Great comment.

[Atheistx82]

@CapnOrdinary I have to tell you I watched Zeitgeist and it literally felt like my brain was dying.

[borgbylt]

One more ignorant comment: I mentioned the number of seconds because of a PBS story "HAL's Legacy" 1/29/2002 mentioned that a computer program to simulate common sense took 500 man-years to write. That made me think of time as a factor in the evolution chain. The time needed to produce something with guided and directed thought vrs. the evolutionary model.

[borgbylt]

Did you by any chance look up the reference in the collage bio text book?

[borgbylt]

the point is not do i know my ggeatttttt grandfather but the son of the missing link would know his father was not human. Evolution must have been fast, there are only 3.1536x10^16 seconds in a billion years. Look at Dr. Neil Campbell's text book "Biology" third edition page 92 fig 6.2 showing hundreds of the thousand connections of a metabolic pathway, each thousand chemical reaction needing a seperate enzyme, coded in DNA.

[CapnOrdinary]

There is no such thing as a missing link, evolution is not a chain.

There are only 31,536,000,000,000,000 seconds in a billion years, so evolution must have been fast? You are laughably stupid, do you know that? There are 31,557,600 seconds in an average year, how fast does that go by? A billion years is a billion years, mankind developed relatively fast, but there would still be no noticeable difference between each generation, that's the whole point.

[CapnOrdinary]

One more ignorant comment from you, and I'll block you. I have no interest in refuting your idiocy.

talkorigins(DOT)org if you're actually interested in knowing how the world really works.

[borgbylt]

I thought about it as the speaker requested. Do you think it's possible for Dad to remember his grandfather? Could his grandfather remember his grandfather? Someone would have the protohuman as his father and would know he evolved. No need to create creation legends, they would KNOW for certainty. However if Bible account true, these gods and goddesses could be the "men of reknown" that resulted from angelic beings mating with human woman. Think about it.

[pbourget]

Hmmm... there is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole....

[CapnOrdinary]

Since I've been in a number of foxholes with a number of other atheists when I was in the military, I regret to inform you that that particular statement is false.

And rather annoying, to be honest.

[pbourget]

I randomly divided my college class in half.I had half of my students research info on who killed King Tut and the other group research on how he died of natural causes.

After the presentations I arranged a debate between both groups. Interestingly, both sides vehemently defended their point of view. Not one person accepted another perspective. I then pointed out that I had arranged the assignment so that their research was limited to only one hypothesis. Remember Zimbardo at Stanford?

[CapnOrdinary]

What's your point?

[pbourget]

Intellectually, we can be persuaded by finding facts, engaging in logical aguments and possibly unconsciously strengthening our biases. People who are "believers" accept what is not logical. Why? Why did C.S. Lewis convert to Chritianity? He was an atheist once. What did Lewis experience that made a difference in his firm convictions? I challenge you to examine the other point of view Capn.

[CapnOrdinary]

I was a christian for 25 years, does that count? :P

[pbourget]

Sensitive.

[Scully56]

That was a very good video. But don't expect people who beleive in talking snakes to agree :)

[Trepeg]

Brilliant ... 5* !! I wish I could rate it 6 stars.

[imadhurata]

do a critical vid about evolution, explaining the wholes in ur theory, i would like to hear that

[CapnOrdinary]

There are no "holes" in evolutionary theory, so that would be a boring video.

[trondreitan]

Liked it. 5/5

[NephilimFree]

Did you know that all the prominet evolutionist scientists have stated in thier own books that all species in the fossil record of life appear abruptly without intermediates? *GOSH* I'm shocked!

[TranceDevotee]

watch the video "Dawkins: Intelligent Design and Gaps"

he explains how creationist idiots like u took what he wrote out of context

[coleneil1]

Congratulations you have now shown that you know nothing about evolution, and that you are not fit to argue on the subject.

[whineybtch]

Nephilim, omfg. IDIOT.

[NephilimFree]

Oh dear. I see you've put Finches in your video (along with other falicious crap). Hey did you know that all finches have beaks? Did you know that means no new morphological feature occured, but only adaptation of existing features? Well, whaddya know. And DNA??? Oh dear. That's like showing me a pic of a PC and saying, "Look! The most complex system in the world, which can't exist without a mitochondria to make it, which can't exist without DNA which..." Funny stuff your vid.

[NephilimFree]

It's funny how the Chinese language (4,000 yrs old) records the events of Genesis built right into it's pictographic characters. Heh. Isn't that funny. How could that be? Do you think the event of the Tower of Babel really happened?

[modemmack]

You found some gaps. Good for you. Now you don't have to give up mental masturbation (religion). Since there will always be things that science won't know, you can jump from gap to gap as your old gaps are filled in.

[Kieran27]

That's very interesting. Do you happen to have any links or sources for this chinese Genesis story? I'd like to see for myself.

I find it especially interesting since the Chinese culture predates the time of Noah's flood and their written records continue on through the time of the flood as if they didn't all drown.

[flyingdrake]

i have to use my imagination to think you can draw :p, damn creepy one eyed yellow bald cyclopi (just ribbing you)

though i am confused when you link Cinderella and cutting things from science or religion. as i recall as per older versions of the tale, it was the stepsisters who cut off bits of their feet to make the shoe fit. or is there something else in the tale you were refering to?

[CapnOrdinary]

No, you're right, I was referring to the step sisters (in my usual leave-out-half-the-steps manner). However, images of them are harder to find, and not nearly as recognisable ;o) and of course, no one knows their names.

[mjr256]

Great video, though you sound less Darth Vader-y than usual. I hope CSE Ministry didn't make a copyright claim about that too.

[CapnOrdinary]

LOL. The "Darth Vadery" voice is just the way I sound. I think I may have changed the pitch on this sound clip during noise removal.

[superbjd]

Well, it's a theory. But I wonder... should people believe this theory solely on the basis of faith?

[CapnOrdinary]

Obviously not. And it's not a theory, it's a hypothesis ^_^

But I certainly think it bears some thought. If you disagree, of course, you are free to disregard it.

[dechha1981]

Some people attribute the behaviour of sub-atomic particles to God. But this doesn't seem like the realm of an all-powerfull omnipotent being, sounds more like an elf or a pixie. Not even as big as a pixie, actually. Any deity whose power whose authority is so small is not worth worshiping.

[qqs764]

Judeo-Christian is a specific term applying to Bible god, Abrahamic is all three while Islamic is self-explanatory. 's just depending on what you're referring to.

[qqs764]

The Roman gods were the Greek Gods and they had full well knowledge that they were, part of the Roman Doctrine regalia something or other, same thing happened with the Greek gods as it did with Constantine and Catholocism..

[ddrninjette]

This is my favorite video of yours at all! It's fair, informative, and entertaining!

[CapnOrdinary]

Glad you liked it ^_^

[onni87]

Very good video

[Desertphile]

A very fine video, though I contend the phrase "Judeo-Christian god" is meaningless: the two cults have different gods.

[CapnOrdinary]

Actually, I think we need to somehow expand the phrase to include Allah. They're very different deities, but they have a few similarities that make it worthwhile grouping them in some cases.

[ltzippy2]

"Abrahmic" god is probably a good catch all for that purpose.

[CapnOrdinary]

Thank you. Elegant solution to my problem.... Now I just have to come up with an excuse for not thinking about that myself ;o)

[mjr256]

Yeah, I agree. I usually refer to it as The Abrahamic God or the 3 religions as The Abrahamic Religions.

[qqs764]

Allah translates to "The Divine Being" or "god" (no capital G), it is really an adjective. So saying "God says so" is different from "Allah says so" as the latter translates to "The god says so"

Atheistic Knowledge ftw.

[dechha1981]

Incorrect. Jesus was Jewish. The old Testiment of the christian Bible was directly ripped-off of the tanak, and Jesus is suposedly the fulfilment of the Jewish prophecy of the Messiah.

Also muslims ripped of the Bible in the same way.

[Desertphile]

"Incorrect. Jesus was Jewish. Th...."

That still means the Jewish gods are different than the Christian ones.