AND ONE QUESTION ONLY : AS IN FRANCE WHILE THE GERMAN OCCUPATION THERE WHERE A RESISTANCE AGAINST GERMANY (FACT) AND THE ALLIED FORCES HELPED IT AND LEGALIZED IT AND CONSIDERED IT A RIGHT FOR THE FRENCH (FACT) THEN WHY DO THE WHOLE WORLD SAY THAT HAMAS AN FATEH ARE TERRORIST(which IS NOT ) GROUPS AND THERE FIGHT AGAINST ISRAELI OCCUPATION IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM ?
@Rbennaim According to your talmud, all other nonejewish humanbeings are dogs. The only thing we see on TV is buried palestinians and not jews. So you are full of bullshit.
What a funny clip, when did jews ever try to steal arab land? we took back eretz israel that everyone has been occupying from us for thousands of years. It took 2000 years to regain it and we are never going to leave it again! The muslim arabs have stolen lands and converting and arabizing nations all over the middle east and north africa! And they stole the holy land from the previous thieves the byzantines. Thank G-d we are back in our land and it will never be arab land!!
Sorry but by your logic, no one belongs anywhere because someone had it before.
If you want to speak on the religious front, God actually threw Jews into Exile for not following the word(s) given to them as the chosen people.
You didn't stick with it from Moses you didn't acknowledge Jesus & then God did what he knew Jews would despise, threw it into a nation the Jews use to look down upon...
Yes G-d exiled the jews but he also promised he would brings us back to our land again(Torah,Be-hukkotai) but what has jesus and mohamad got do with this? They are not from tanakh. And we are the ones that looks down on arabs? We were the ones that were treated like shit by them for 1400 years! We didn't stick with it from Moses? Who are you to judge us and you know this land is in our hands again after 2000 years!
Return, you're absolutely right, but do you think by force? I don't think so.
As for Christians & Muslims treating Jews like shit, that's not true. When Jews were being persecuted throughout Europe, It was the Muslims who took care of the Jews for those hundreds of years you mention.
Israel was created through Zionism, not through the Torah.
Listen you are confused it was not us who started the war in 1948, it was the arabs ok.
As for muslims taking care of us when we were persecuted in christian europe. It was sometimes worse in europe yes but that doesnt mean that is was paradise for jews in muslims countries, Jews were persecuted there as well. Such as massacres, forced conversion,expulsions and more.
Zionism is not a one and only philisophy. Herzl`s philosophy maybe is contra torah. But G-d and moses was also zionists in a way if you think about it. And you can also say that zionism is as old as 586 BCE starting with the babylonian exile or you could say that its 2000 year old starting from the expulsion from judea. Zionism is deeply intertwined with the jewish people and faith.
The other types are not what you are speaking about. Herzl formed the movement of the select few and powerful, this isn't an assumption, it's a historical fact.
When did Islam use force? Pick a time of rule.
Keep in mind that not all Palestinians are Muslim, Before the state existed, they had virtually no problems amongst each other, you can't find a time in history when they did.
Why they live as refugees? Because Israel doesn't allow them to progress, not that hard to figure out
Are you joking? You can not be serious when you ask me when Islam use force.During all the muslim conquests from the Umayyad Caliphate up intil Ottoman rule its all in the history books. And there have always been problems among the people in the holy land. Have you heard of the crusades? ummar bin khattab? tensions and violence has always existed there between jews and christians and muslims and druzeand among all of the inhabitants.
Muslim conquests of what? Ottoman Empire? Ottoman Empire came to be after the collapse of the Byzantine Empire. Places and people were scattered and the Ottoman Empire rose and established it's grounds.
Look at the history of it, Jews, Christians, All lived in peace under it.
Its not even worth talking to you.You think that Islam spread by itself across the middle east,asia,africa,balkans,kavkaz. Do you even know any kind of history? Ummar bin khattab took over jerusalem with violence or do you think he conquered it with hugs and kisses?
Jews were out of Jerusalem and oppressed during the time. When he took it over It was Umar who for the first time in 500 years since expulsion of Jews from the Holy Land, allowed them to practice their religion freely and live in Jerusalem.
So you see, I think you are misinformed.
Remember, this isn't a competition, if you aren't sure, just ask, but when you point fingers and assume, that's another thing.
When did i say he took Jerusalem from the jews? do you remeber my first original post? I never point fingers and assume i only speak of things i know. It is you who are misinformed..
I never said that it was an assumption but the meaning of zionism is much deeper than that of just Herzl`s. We have been waiting for 2000 years to return to Israel this is not some alien notion to our culture this an old longing and urning that has come true.
Instead of keeping the desire to kill the jews and destroy Israel they could try a different way maybe educate their children with knowledge and love instead of lies and hate.
I never said that you said anything lol You are telling me the old meaning of Zionism saying that it is what Israelis use to justify Israel.
I'm telling you that Zionism ( as the political Movement, Herzl's ) is what the "State" uses and used to make the state.
No one wants to kill the Jews, this is what people do and it annoys me. they tie in "Jews" with "Israel" just like when you speak against policies of Israel, they say it's "Anti-Semetic" and it makes me sick.
Have you ever heard about hebron massacre 1929? Arabs killed 67 jews that day and this is before the state of Israel was born. There were a lot of incidents but this is the most famous one
I know about the false rumors but this was all organized by local muslim leaders that lied to the people about that jews had been killing arabs and that they were taking over al aqsa does that make it ok? May G-d bless those arabs who helped to hide jews. But the point is that the arabs were the ones who expelled the jews of hebron, the second holiest city in judaism.
@pillpell WE NEVER SAID IT WAS FOR ARABS BUT IT IS FOR MUSLIMS and the one before you its the real fact you didn't follow the orders of god so it's NOT YOURS
we want peace if thay don't want peace it's up to them you will see what we well do to all of you You Sergto our country on the argument of the Promised Land, even if it was God's promised land want Atakm what you vulnerable people, but appointed Sergaha Bgamadt
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We want peace for me is the religion of Islam, the religion of tolerance and peace
There is a big difference between a Jewish person and a zionists. Real Jewish people who has a heart and knows the commandments will not break the Thou shall not Steal. But see the Akhenazi fake jews doesnt know this law, since majority of them in Israel are fake .Zionism is a politial regime which believes they are Chosen to kill others and steal and lie. When in truth they are nothing but parasites. they are Nazi Jews.
i think u DONT UNDERSTAND coz u wesr ur time in finding excuses 4 wat jwes do ??
why U JWES JUSR DONR CARE ??
AND WHEN U SAY I WANNA PEACE U SHOULD ACET as aperson who seek 4 peace but u jwes keep saying palesinin do that 4 themslivs
answer me wil they anything of that happen if jwes didnt come and try to role acounret dont belong to them dont speack thier language they know its calture before 80 years ago ???
Then only will they begin bargaining with us on practical matters, such as guarantees against pushing them out, and equality of civil, and national rights."
"Peace" without justice for the Palestinian people is equivalent to some kind of a financial transaction between individuals not people. The Palestinian people are a patient people and like all people eager for a justice peace; they shall wait for the day when a just and lasting peace comes.
And a living people will be ready to yield on such fateful issues only when they give up all hope of getting rid of the Alien Settlers. Only then will extremist groups with their slogan 'No, never' lose their influence, and only then their influence be transferred to more moderate groups. And only then will the moderates offer suggestions for compromise.
".... Settlement can thus develop under the protection of a force that is not dependent on the local population, behind an iron wall which they will be powerless to break down. ....a voluntary agreement is just not possible. As long as the Arabs preserve a gleam of hope that they will succeed in getting rid of us, nothing in the world can cause them to relinquish this hope, precisely because they are not a rubble but a living people
. There's a national question here. We want the country to be ours. The Arabs want the country to be theirs." (One Palestine Complete, p. 116)
Similarly, Ze'ev Jabotinsky (one of the most influential Zionists leaders) recognized that Arabs will accept Zionist vision only by the force of arms, he stated in his famous iron wall article in 1923:
Everybody sees the problem in the relations between the Jews and the Arabs. But not everybody sees that there's no solution to it. There is no solution! . . . The conflict between the interests of the Jews and the interests of the Arabs in Palestine cannot be resolved by sophisms. I don't know any Arabs who would agree to Palestine being ours---even if we learn Arabic . . .and I have no need to learn Arabic. On the other hand, I don't see why 'Mustafa' should learn Hebrew.
has become a kind of a ponzi or a pyramid scheme that will eventually crumble under its own weight. If history can be a judge, this version of "peace" (which is based on usurping Palestinian national rights) will be a curse on the Arab regimes and people who choose it as their path. In that respect, it is helpful to point out that even David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) recognized that peace without justice is simply impossible, he stated in 1919:
uch a version of "peace" requires the West and Israel to continuously shore up corrupt Arab regimes to prolong the unpopular "peace" treaties with Israel, and without corruption and repression these unpopular treaties won't last for a day. As repression and corruption increases, these Arab regimes become even more unpopular which entails even more sustainable repression and corruption. This vicious circle of repression and corruption (which are required to sustain this version of "peace")
Because this version of "peace" ignores that facts that the Palestinian people have been ethnically cleansed and dispossessed of their homeland, it's extremely unpopular among Arabs. Consequently, Western Powers have resorted to all sorts of methods to impose this version of "peace" on Arab regimes, and as a result repression and corruption have reached unprecedented levels. The examples in the Arab World are too many to enumerate, especially in the occupied West Bank and Egypt.
* more repressive against their own people, * have the best intelligence services and torture centers the West can offer, * their democracy is almost non-existent at all levels, and * their economies cannot survive without foreign aid.
Since the inception of the Zionists movement, its founders and the Western Powers proclaimed that if Arabs accepted the Zionist vision (which aims to turn Palestine to a "Jewish majority state"), then "peace", prosperity, and democracy shall follow soon after. Paradoxically, what happened on the ground has been the complete opposite. It should be noted that up to this date, all Arab countries who accepted the Western version of "peace" and recognized the "Jewish state" have become
it's not all Israel's fault. Fault lies with the Arab countries and the Arab League for instigating violence and war. If it wasn't for the wars in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973, everyone would have been a lot better off.
You think just because your media offers a different perspective than that in Israel or America that its automatically correct. The fact is every media in the world is biased, that doesn't matter whether they're owned by Jews, Arabs, Christians or atheists.
look i try make u understand and look to other pple life !
to but urfelfe in thier setuation and think and i know u can do that maybe not now but o feel that ur not bad maybe u hate all the killing thing wat ur pple do is bad .
Just my point, is that you do not understand. you think it's all the fault of Israel, that Arabs may have a role in their own problems. That is the way you have guided this entire conversation
You are so wrong on everything you've said. i dont live in Israel. The Torah does not say to kill people, it says that G-d made a covenant with the entire Jewish people. We were granted a homeland in this covenant. The land was stolen. But G-d promised it would be returned. We did not return to kill people. That is not what we are about and we never intended for all that to happen. The Holocaust was what pushed for us to have this homeland. So it would never happen again
We dont believe that because of the Holocaust we can do injustice to other people. We just dont believe in waiting around for someone to kill thousands or millions of Jews again.
you dont think the actions of the Arab states have any ramifications on this conflict? It's all my people's fault?
Another thing, many Jews went through hell to get to Palestine. Do you know how many people were murdered by the Germans who tried to get there?
And even before 1948, Arabs did not like us, they persecuted us, made laws of discrimination and committed many acts of violence against us, simply because we tried to go home, before we even tried to create a state of Israel.
You seem to be able to know everything about me and Jews without really knowing them. What you do not understand, is our religion is the only one based on national revelation. We were specifically promised a place to live by G-d, that is a covenant, never to be rescinded. The West Bank is occupied for reasons that are very complicated, not that they are right. some Jews think all the land is their's and thats why they live there and it's very difficult to move them.
And another thing, Israel is not the only one with guns. Arabs have done crimes of their own and have not done everything in their power to stop the violence. Like the Saudi organizations who villify Jews and spread hatred. The war does not stop because both sides have trouble agreeing on peace, both Israel and the Arab states. You don't want to think of the possibility that the Arab states have had their own part in all of this. Violence begets violence.
It is not Israel's fault solely, and not the fault of the Arab States. Each side needs to understand that. That is the way to peace. Jews have been massacred just as Arabs have. The thing is we cannot generalize against the other's community. We cannot say all Jews or all Zionists like to kill people as we must say that all Arabs and Muslims are not terrorists. There are always two sides to every conflict, that is the truth. There are many Israelis who care, despite what you may think
I don't know the meaning of the word massacre? My entire family in Europe was killed off by the Germans. I am not saying what happened in Gaza was ok. I never said killing people was ok. I simply offer the idea that both sides of people need to understand that we need to co-exist, and allow for each other to have their state. that is what G-d intended, for both Israel and Palestine to live side by side, as he wanted Ishmael and Isaac to live together.
One person does not represent a whole. You don't understand why Zionism is so important to so many Jewish people and you don't want to try to understand. you take it at face value that its automatically an evil philosophy without thinking that it might not be the terrible philosophy you think it is, and it is only through bad situations that bad results occur.
i dont miss that : why jwes are the only relgion wich has aland ?? why muslim dont chrestian dont even Buddhism. hasnt dont u think its coz the relgion live in the hearts ?? u can visit palestine as muslim and chrestian but u cant expel its pple coz of ur relgion do u think that ALLAH wanna all this killing happen ? i dont think so the exsit of isreal in aganst peace
We dont come to kill people. It was because the Arab League and people incited violence against us that this happened.
All we ever wanted was to live in Israel in peace, but that has never been granted. G-d made a special covenant with the Jewish people at Mt. Sinai, G-d gave us the Torah and we agreed to follow its laws. And G-d said we would always return to the land no matter what!
Palestinians have the weapons. Israel suddenly do not have anything. Not Tarat not hit the tank demolition and destruction. Cbe not. Imagine what the Israelis do with me? Is Ttejelhm begin to carry the stones to defend their homes. Do you expect any determination of survival. The obvious answer is that they will race to the aircraft and ships to their countries of origin of all fear. Because you know that the earth is not for you.
The right answer is the end of racism and ignorance that fills people's minds like yours. I dont understand how someone can be so hateful. My entire family in Europe was killed. My culture lost one third of it's entire people, and I hold nothing against the German people. Jews and Israelis are a proud and strong people, we dont surrender easy. Look at WW2, and look at the Jewish resistance groups who lasted longer than the European armies!
I don't hate you. I hate what you believe and say. israelis are not hateful, stupid people. It's the fact they are in a violent area. Israel has been persecuted since the beginning of its existence, how do you think that will effect people? there are some that aren't nice but there are many Israelis who want to live in peace, they're tired of it, you think you know everything about this conflict and my homeland but you dont.
And I can say the same thing to you, that you dont understand and refuse to listen. The difference is, I don't blame Arabs solely. You blame my people only and thats not fair
That's right, just totally dehumanize the other side. It's always one sided right? For this reason is why there is so much strife in the world and if people could just try to listen and understand the other person, people would stop killing each other.
You can't deny the land once belonged to other people who were kicked out of their homes also.
First, to what are you referring when you say "deny this"? Prove what?
We aren't stealing anyone's bags. We returned to the land that was rightfully ours, because there is no safe place for Jewish people in the world. We lived in the diaspora for 2000 years and all we got from people was grief, hatred and violence. That is why after the Holocaust the belief in a Jewish homeland became so strong.
Why did this all happen? Because people could not see past the cultural differences. People feared each other and instead of trying to understand each other, they resorted to suspicion and violence. This conflict is no one side's blame. That is rational. To blame it solely on Jews or Arabs is irrational
no all this happen coz of unjustce world coz u have more mony and wat depand on mony will never win . ok jwes have the right to live in palestine coz they lived in it some dasy in the history ok ?
Then by what you said here, too bad about Palestinians. Just because they lived there at some time, they dont now, so too bad. We kicked them out. That is what you're saying.
We dont have all the money. You obviously buy into all that anti-semitic crap the Arab media churns out. That is false and lies and creates hatred.
Let's see, that all happened after the conflict started. This conflict went far back before Israel was even created. Arabs attacked Jews and Jews attacked Arabs. I don't know who attacked who first and it's not important at this point, because too many people on all sides have been killed.
We never came to kill people. All we wanted was a safe place from the rest of the world, so the Holocaust would never happen again
so isreal wasnt even exist its created by someone fore aresone but palestine were already exsit and has its peaceful pple and when the occupation come u exsit !
isreal strted on blood and killing
if u dont know go and look fore some real hustory and figer out how ur fake country (occupation ) strat
Please, the history of the Arabs has not been full of peace, so don't try that cheap shot.
The Arabs could have done what Gandhi did and gotten a lot more recognition instead of trying to attack Israel over and over. Israel had no intention of land grabbing or expelling people. It was when Arabs decided to kill other people in the land because they were Jews that you got violence.
Something I don't know? Please prove this. All you say is lies, and you dont prove anything. Thats the thing with you Arabs, you're all inbred and pathetic. you're all violent and hateful, you buy into crap, it proves how stupid you all are. Thats why you lost the land, because you're all idiots and went against G-d's plan to return the Jews to Eretz Yisrael!
Read what? Lies? I read truth. It's no one side's fault. You make this an entire anti-semitic conversation by saying that wherever Jews go, we just make trouble, when it is the people who meet us that don't like us because we are different and refuse to convert or be second-class citizens.
I am not talking poor and I get nothing. I am referring to the Jewish people's history and what has happened to us for 2,000 years. If you havent understood what I am saying, there is nothing more I can say. The fact is, you dont want to understand my side.
I'm sure you could set me straight, by explaining how Jews do everything bad in the world right? We caused bad economies, the Black Plague, we kill children, we use children's blood for matzah, we killed the prophets, we dont believe in G-d, yep, right sure. You just know everything, I can see, you're a hypocrit!
dont put ur word in my mouth its not polit but u can understand me !
i dont hate jwes i have wat they do
i cant imagen that they just destroy everything and keep going and live there livs i dont wanna u be in bad stuation i wanna be live good but not by stealing anoth pple land how can u just take there land any live tell me where was ue grand grand mother live
You miss the point. It is belief that Israel is the land that G-d gave to the Jewish people and that we would be returned. It was stolen from us. It is our national homeland. It was not a common belief until 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis. After that we could never trust the world again. That is why we need a Jewish state in Israel. No other place in the world is perfectly safe.
i dont care about the spilling i think u have nothing to say then u look to the spliing to talk about
i think ur the pathetic one here ..
i have great histoy strong character and
and clear vision i have something kiliing me i talk about it u live in other pple land and talk just fore luxury coz u used to kill i used to think and talk
If you could look at everything I wrote, you would know that all I care about is not simply spelling. You think you know me, you think you know how I live, where I live, how I think about people. You probably think I live to kill arab children and use their blood to make matzah right? You think the worst of people and it's apalling.
I happen to believe in peace and co-existence and so do many Israelis. Do you know how many Israelis protested the invasion of Gaza? Thousands of people. You think all Jews are terrible people and we hate and love to kill people and it is so far from the truth. You really know nothing about our culture, but lies from your media.
look just 80 years ago and u will see abeautiful land became to aland of blood WHY !
can i just come to ur home and said pls bring this home back its belong to my grand grand grand father when u have nothin to prove this big lie but u have gun and to u itsagood prove
so you're saying Jews never lived in Palestine? There's plenty of evidence all across Palestine. There's documents of the Dead Sea Scrolls, excavations of ancient Hebrew, stories, and the Jewish people, writings from Egypt, Greece and Rome, you cannot disprove all that.
Jews did not come to Palestine to kill people or cause trouble. The violence came afterwards and no one side is to blame. Both are to blame.
I've repeated nothing. What I said, is called archaeological evidence, I don't know what you want. You're really an ignorant and bitter person, who just has their head stuck in the sand. You can call us killers and destroyers, but in your own words: "u just repeat wat u know nothing about"
هاتو سلاحكم ونشوف اذا رح تبقوا بالارض يوم واحد زياده نشوف لو وقف واحد منكم ومسك حجر مثل اهل فلسطين رح تجرو كلكم ع البحر والسفن مثل ماجيتو لأنكم عارفين انها مش ارضكم ومش رح تدافعوا عنها بالحجاره مثل ابطال فلسطين ولو يوم واحد فقط .
عنصريين لاننا ندافع عن ارضنا الي سرقتوها قبل 80 سنه . ب 0 سنه بس حولتوها لأكبر مسرح دماء قتل وتدمير ومجازر . واثبت الشعب الفلسطيني انه قوى الخير مهما كانت ضعيفه مستحيل تنهزم . شباب فلسطين ابطال رغم عدم تكافوء السلاح .
arab never wanted peace. sorry but this is the truth. at least be honest. they say they want peace but one-on-one or asked on the street, they want the destruction of israel.
with all due respect, why not 1st getting your house in order, stop killing each other, re-instate or actually instate human rights amongst yourselves. then perhaps the world will listen and take your grievances with israel seriously. they don't now seeing the rampant arab-on-arab death, mayhem and unspeakable atrocities
I've been delaying things I need to do(like, move out of my place which I need to do quickly). Christ told us that wars will continue so conflicts will increase. There will be no real peace till the God and Savior Jesus Christ reigns on this earth after saving Israel from many of the armies of the world-most will be Islamic(see Ezekiel 38-39) in the battle of Armaggedon. May the Lord Jesus continue showing Himself to Muslims which have become Christians as a result of it.
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Sorry folks, but Israel normally attacks only when attacked first. And, when one of you says,"I don't want peace, I want to kill the Israeli f----ers, what do you expect Israel to do when suicide bombers are sent into Israel?
israel kills a man just because another guy from his town is suspected a terrorist. or renders a family homeless just because a distant cousin went wacko and decided to join hamas. israel's collective punishment have put many innocent people in harms way for no good reason and hence increased the hatred toward israel, leading to these attacks.
do you think that hammas will have an easy time recruiting suicide bomber if palest. are treated in dignity??
When a leader calls for the destruction of another country that makes him a threat. He also said he will stamp out Christianity. And, the nearly 10,000 acts of terrorism around the world since 9/11 is Israel's fault. Israel has also given up territory and if countries would stop sending suicide bombers into Israel you can expect much of the violence to stop.
how could u call your self a smart person when all ur bias words shows ignorance!!!! yes ur right israel offered alot of land hahah, yeah let me just put it in a way that ur narrow mind might understand, i will come and occupy ur house and throw u in the back yard, and then i will offer u a part of ur kitchen back :) see i am a nice guy .....I STILL FUCKIN OCCUPY THE WHOLE DAMN HOUSE, and if u fight me 2 get ur house back then i will call the cops and tell em a " TERRORIST" is attackin me ;)
Iran is the biggest rival of the Saudis, and a nuclear Iran is disaster for them. so your point makes no sense. and for the records saudi textbooks also label other muslims as traitors.
When Abinajaed(sp?) the ruler of Iran says,"Israel is a stinky country. They should be wiped off the face of the earth." What do you expect Israel to do if they develop nukes?
but he never said that he will launch military campaign against Israel. he said that Israel people will take down this racist regime. Iran didn't invade any country for the last 2 centuries. I can't say the same thing about israel
haha there u go again dumbass, u talk about ppl who u can speel their name right , thats what the media propagnada does best, now u think ur a middle eastern expert :) um the name is Mahmoud Ahmadi Najjad, and go try 2 find an exact translation to what he said :) u will find it very weird that his comments did not match anythin Fox news told ya it meant
our book says the jewish and Christian won't make peace with the Muslim and i'm muslim and i believe that all people who are not muslim hut us and they want us to died
KURDISTAN WILL RISE AND YOU WILL BE FUCKED!!! THen you'll have four enemies: ISRAEL, KURDISTAN, ARMENIA AND TURKEY!!! Your days are counted!!! You're dictators, that's why the intelligent Arabs escape to Israel, gays have rights in Israel u hang them primitive people, you not civilized, you're brainless, the only thing u know is to chop heads if people don't accept Islam!!!
u seriously think that the kurds (roughly about 100 000 ppl) would take over the world hahahahahah , and u r so smart and knowledgeable about islam :) yes they chop ur head if u dont become a muslim?!?1 what happened to : LA IKRAH FIL DEEN ? (u cannot force no one to belive in islam) they have to be convinced and choose it not be forced to it
More than welcome in the future Arab country? Dream on dictators, you expelled 900,000 Jews from Arab countries, confiscated all that was theirs, took away their citizenship, killed thousands, public hanging....etc! Even before you always treated them like third class citizens, heavy taxed! You're conquers, soon u will have another Israel KURDISTAN they hate u more than we do!!
I was one of those who belived in peace with Israel,, TODAY THEY CAN LICK MY ASS BECUSE WE WILL KICK THEM OUT TO THE SEA, JUST BECUSE TEY ATTACKED LIBANON AND CIVILIAN PALESTINIANS
I feel for the palestinians, what israel has and is doing to them is wrong beyond understanding or logic. If youv studied the ghettos of 1942 and the Ones in the west bank and Gaza today, they are identical.
I am American, and the problem here is that our Gov. Sees Israel as allies, they will land entire divisions into Israel in order to defend, not only will palestinians not get thier land back, but they lose the little land they hold.
ur very right my friend, some of us muslims and arabs want peace , and some jews and israelis want peace, but its always the asshole goverments that rule us see no money in it and dont want peace, hopefully one day soon i will invite you to come visit me in beirut to have lunch and me visit you in tel aviv to do dinner :) peace my friend
Yeah - then let's kick all the friggin' muslims out of Bosnia, Chechnia, U.K., U.S., Turkey, Spain etc. etc. Israel is so tiny. Muslims need to get over it. Nobody Likes you or believes you. You look really ignorant. You guys were angry before Israel. Don't make excuses for your behavior with propoganda.
I hope the sionists are not dump enough that they belive they are the chosen motherfuckers., in the end of the tunnel it will be russia 4 all jews in Palestine
Israel4ever<Really I dont give a fuck, I cant identifie in my text that I said I wish you all dead, I Sayed hope you go back home to Russia your homecountry. Thats what I sayed,, Arabjews are welcome to stay in a Palestine 4 all palestinian including jewish palestinians. But you please look at yourself in the merror you will discover that you are not even oriental,do you understand??? And please dont say bibel , I dont belive in bibel and I dont belive in Koran I only belive in reality and love.
If you are an arabjew , you are more than welcome to stay in an future arabic country for all arabs dosent matter if you are christian, jew, muslim or even athiest.
YOu fuckers sionists GO HOME TO RUSSIA, ERITREA AND UKRAINE, GO HOME TO YOUR ARABHOMELANDS,, PALESTINE BELONG TO PALESTINIANS, AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN MIDDLEEASTERNS GO HOME YOU FUCKERS, BITCHES WE GIVE YOU 80% OF PALESTINE GIVE US BACK 20 % OF OUR HOMELANDS YOU DIRTY APES
Oh gee, anouther Arab Fuckhead. We will take over the world and you will be pushed back into the desert where you came from. You are a puss, a poop pusher, rapist ass, the only thing good that came from you is Halva. Go suck on a date prick.
I'm not a Zionist.but i believe that Palestine was never Arab land. arab land is arabia a majority of the arab world consists of lands they stole from other people.(ironic aint that)Israel didnt steal shit only claimed what was once theirs.
Last time I checked Jesus wasnt an arab lol.
Its not ARAB LAND!!!!
besides the british granted the jews a homeland in the 1917 declaration which the ARABS refused.blame the british not israelis.
Peace... Even in comments there is no peace .... Just be happy talk and smile togather :)
lgdsmasher 1 year ago
AND ONE QUESTION ONLY : AS IN FRANCE WHILE THE GERMAN OCCUPATION THERE WHERE A RESISTANCE AGAINST GERMANY (FACT) AND THE ALLIED FORCES HELPED IT AND LEGALIZED IT AND CONSIDERED IT A RIGHT FOR THE FRENCH (FACT) THEN WHY DO THE WHOLE WORLD SAY THAT HAMAS AN FATEH ARE TERRORIST(which IS NOT ) GROUPS AND THERE FIGHT AGAINST ISRAELI OCCUPATION IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM ?
B3RETA 1 year ago
Yes Arabs want peace !!!...Probably , the peace of the cemetary where all jews would be buried...
C'mon who can fall in that trap. Arabs want no peace, their koran forbids peace.
Rbennaim 1 year ago
@Rbennaim According to your talmud, all other nonejewish humanbeings are dogs. The only thing we see on TV is buried palestinians and not jews. So you are full of bullshit.
amrjosef 1 year ago
You may get a little less stupid by starting reading the talmud you know not a word about .
I read the Coran , you never read the Talmud. This makes a big difference.
Truth is that it is the Coran who preaches hate towards Chritian and Jews NEVER the Talmud.
You are only an ignorant parrot : Only able to repeat what you were taught by other ignorants. A constant in the arab world.
Rbennaim 1 year ago
@Rbennaim which koran did you read ? and can you tell me which verse and where exactly ?
I WANT TO BRING THE FACT THAT YOU DID NOT READ ANY KORAN
BTW TOO READ IT YOU WELL KNOW WHO WANTS PEACE WE WANT IT
B3RETA 1 year ago
you read my mind
bbproductionsLA 1 year ago
What a funny clip, when did jews ever try to steal arab land? we took back eretz israel that everyone has been occupying from us for thousands of years. It took 2000 years to regain it and we are never going to leave it again! The muslim arabs have stolen lands and converting and arabizing nations all over the middle east and north africa! And they stole the holy land from the previous thieves the byzantines. Thank G-d we are back in our land and it will never be arab land!!
pillpell 2 years ago 2
@pillpell
Sorry but by your logic, no one belongs anywhere because someone had it before.
If you want to speak on the religious front, God actually threw Jews into Exile for not following the word(s) given to them as the chosen people.
You didn't stick with it from Moses you didn't acknowledge Jesus & then God did what he knew Jews would despise, threw it into a nation the Jews use to look down upon...
The Arabs...
Hence...
Muhammad.
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
Yes G-d exiled the jews but he also promised he would brings us back to our land again(Torah,Be-hukkotai) but what has jesus and mohamad got do with this? They are not from tanakh. And we are the ones that looks down on arabs? We were the ones that were treated like shit by them for 1400 years! We didn't stick with it from Moses? Who are you to judge us and you know this land is in our hands again after 2000 years!
pillpell 2 years ago
@pillpell
Return, you're absolutely right, but do you think by force? I don't think so.
As for Christians & Muslims treating Jews like shit, that's not true. When Jews were being persecuted throughout Europe, It was the Muslims who took care of the Jews for those hundreds of years you mention.
Israel was created through Zionism, not through the Torah.
Zionism is contra to the teachings.
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
Listen you are confused it was not us who started the war in 1948, it was the arabs ok.
As for muslims taking care of us when we were persecuted in christian europe. It was sometimes worse in europe yes but that doesnt mean that is was paradise for jews in muslims countries, Jews were persecuted there as well. Such as massacres, forced conversion,expulsions and more.
pillpell 2 years ago
@MrMP81
Zionism is not a one and only philisophy. Herzl`s philosophy maybe is contra torah. But G-d and moses was also zionists in a way if you think about it. And you can also say that zionism is as old as 586 BCE starting with the babylonian exile or you could say that its 2000 year old starting from the expulsion from judea. Zionism is deeply intertwined with the jewish people and faith.
pillpell 2 years ago
@pillpell
It's Herzl's philosophy that exists today and what had created the state from, not religious reasoning.
Common sense would tell you that if you just think:
- Religion would not impose a force upon another people
- Religion would not pin two people, who are of the same books against each other
- Religion wouldn't make a people to live in poverty as refugees in lands they once lived side by side with the same people that made them that way.
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
Well today there are many types of zionism not only Herzl`s but Israel exists and that is the main thing.
Religion would not impose a force upon another people? This is what islam has done and are doing is that what you are talking about?
Religion would not pin two people, who are of the same books against each other. Well muslims managed to do this a long time ago.
Why are arabs living in poverty in refugee camps today 60 years later? This is a very good question
pillpell 2 years ago
@pillpell
The other types are not what you are speaking about. Herzl formed the movement of the select few and powerful, this isn't an assumption, it's a historical fact.
When did Islam use force? Pick a time of rule.
Keep in mind that not all Palestinians are Muslim, Before the state existed, they had virtually no problems amongst each other, you can't find a time in history when they did.
Why they live as refugees? Because Israel doesn't allow them to progress, not that hard to figure out
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
Are you joking? You can not be serious when you ask me when Islam use force.During all the muslim conquests from the Umayyad Caliphate up intil Ottoman rule its all in the history books. And there have always been problems among the people in the holy land. Have you heard of the crusades? ummar bin khattab? tensions and violence has always existed there between jews and christians and muslims and druzeand among all of the inhabitants.
pillpell 2 years ago
@pillpell
Muslim conquests of what? Ottoman Empire? Ottoman Empire came to be after the collapse of the Byzantine Empire. Places and people were scattered and the Ottoman Empire rose and established it's grounds.
Look at the history of it, Jews, Christians, All lived in peace under it.
What about Ummar iBin Khattab?
Where is the tension?
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
Its not even worth talking to you.You think that Islam spread by itself across the middle east,asia,africa,balkans,kavkaz. Do you even know any kind of history? Ummar bin khattab took over jerusalem with violence or do you think he conquered it with hugs and kisses?
pillpell 2 years ago
@pillpell
Jews were out of Jerusalem and oppressed during the time. When he took it over It was Umar who for the first time in 500 years since expulsion of Jews from the Holy Land, allowed them to practice their religion freely and live in Jerusalem.
So you see, I think you are misinformed.
Remember, this isn't a competition, if you aren't sure, just ask, but when you point fingers and assume, that's another thing.
As for Islam being spread with the sword:
/watch?v=UXM9jL7q89o
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
When did i say he took Jerusalem from the jews? do you remeber my first original post? I never point fingers and assume i only speak of things i know. It is you who are misinformed..
pillpell 2 years ago
This video reminds me of Nazi propaganda...
But again...in Iraq...in the movie theaters...in Egypt, too...Hitler was cheered...when he came on the newsreels...
dudemantwo 2 years ago
lol Don't even try that b.s.
There is no propaganda in this film, nothing is being twisted in it to suit an argument.
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
I never said that it was an assumption but the meaning of zionism is much deeper than that of just Herzl`s. We have been waiting for 2000 years to return to Israel this is not some alien notion to our culture this an old longing and urning that has come true.
Instead of keeping the desire to kill the jews and destroy Israel they could try a different way maybe educate their children with knowledge and love instead of lies and hate.
pillpell 2 years ago
@pillpell
I never said that you said anything lol You are telling me the old meaning of Zionism saying that it is what Israelis use to justify Israel.
I'm telling you that Zionism ( as the political Movement, Herzl's ) is what the "State" uses and used to make the state.
No one wants to kill the Jews, this is what people do and it annoys me. they tie in "Jews" with "Israel" just like when you speak against policies of Israel, they say it's "Anti-Semetic" and it makes me sick.
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
Have you ever heard about hebron massacre 1929? Arabs killed 67 jews that day and this is before the state of Israel was born. There were a lot of incidents but this is the most famous one
pillpell 2 years ago
@pillpell
The Hebron Massacre was started off of a rumor from what I understand, that Jews were taking lands from Arabs, which pissed "some" off and started it.
Why don't you mention that there were 19 local families that saved 435 Jewish families by hiding them in their houses?
It's important to put things in perspective, otherwise no one will learn anything...
MrMP81 2 years ago
@MrMP81
I know about the false rumors but this was all organized by local muslim leaders that lied to the people about that jews had been killing arabs and that they were taking over al aqsa does that make it ok? May G-d bless those arabs who helped to hide jews. But the point is that the arabs were the ones who expelled the jews of hebron, the second holiest city in judaism.
pillpell 2 years ago
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@pillpell
You see what you're saying, You said Godbless the Arabs who helped the Jews but it was Arabs who started it.
That is my point, you can't blame everyone from what someone did or does.
You can even look online for more info on the event ( try wikipedia )
You speak of Umar interestingly wrong. Research this ( or I can help you )
MrMP81 2 years ago
@pillpell WE NEVER SAID IT WAS FOR ARABS BUT IT IS FOR MUSLIMS and the one before you its the real fact you didn't follow the orders of god so it's NOT YOURS
B3RETA 1 year ago
we want peace if thay don't want peace it's up to them you will see what we well do to all of you You Sergto our country on the argument of the Promised Land, even if it was God's promised land want Atakm what you vulnerable people, but appointed Sergaha Bgamadt
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We want peace for me is the religion of Islam, the religion of tolerance and peace
aboodo0o0o 2 years ago
There is a big difference between a Jewish person and a zionists. Real Jewish people who has a heart and knows the commandments will not break the Thou shall not Steal. But see the Akhenazi fake jews doesnt know this law, since majority of them in Israel are fake .Zionism is a politial regime which believes they are Chosen to kill others and steal and lie. When in truth they are nothing but parasites. they are Nazi Jews.
NAZI =Neocon Ahkenazi Zionists idiots.
Nunes67 2 years ago
u didne even read wat u wrote ???
i think u DONT UNDERSTAND coz u wesr ur time in finding excuses 4 wat jwes do ??
why U JWES JUSR DONR CARE ??
AND WHEN U SAY I WANNA PEACE U SHOULD ACET as aperson who seek 4 peace but u jwes keep saying palesinin do that 4 themslivs
answer me wil they anything of that happen if jwes didnt come and try to role acounret dont belong to them dont speack thier language they know its calture before 80 years ago ???
gehad1988 2 years ago
Then only will they begin bargaining with us on practical matters, such as guarantees against pushing them out, and equality of civil, and national rights."
"Peace" without justice for the Palestinian people is equivalent to some kind of a financial transaction between individuals not people. The Palestinian people are a patient people and like all people eager for a justice peace; they shall wait for the day when a just and lasting peace comes.
gehad1988 2 years ago
I believe in peace and two states: Israel and Palestine and I always will. This is the land God promised us and it will never be rescinded.
dsperlin 2 years ago
And a living people will be ready to yield on such fateful issues only when they give up all hope of getting rid of the Alien Settlers. Only then will extremist groups with their slogan 'No, never' lose their influence, and only then their influence be transferred to more moderate groups. And only then will the moderates offer suggestions for compromise.
gehad1988 2 years ago
".... Settlement can thus develop under the protection of a force that is not dependent on the local population, behind an iron wall which they will be powerless to break down. ....a voluntary agreement is just not possible. As long as the Arabs preserve a gleam of hope that they will succeed in getting rid of us, nothing in the world can cause them to relinquish this hope, precisely because they are not a rubble but a living people
gehad1988 2 years ago
. There's a national question here. We want the country to be ours. The Arabs want the country to be theirs." (One Palestine Complete, p. 116)
Similarly, Ze'ev Jabotinsky (one of the most influential Zionists leaders) recognized that Arabs will accept Zionist vision only by the force of arms, he stated in his famous iron wall article in 1923:
gehad1988 2 years ago
Everybody sees the problem in the relations between the Jews and the Arabs. But not everybody sees that there's no solution to it. There is no solution! . . . The conflict between the interests of the Jews and the interests of the Arabs in Palestine cannot be resolved by sophisms. I don't know any Arabs who would agree to Palestine being ours---even if we learn Arabic . . .and I have no need to learn Arabic. On the other hand, I don't see why 'Mustafa' should learn Hebrew.
gehad1988 2 years ago
has become a kind of a ponzi or a pyramid scheme that will eventually crumble under its own weight. If history can be a judge, this version of "peace" (which is based on usurping Palestinian national rights) will be a curse on the Arab regimes and people who choose it as their path. In that respect, it is helpful to point out that even David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister) recognized that peace without justice is simply impossible, he stated in 1919:
gehad1988 2 years ago
uch a version of "peace" requires the West and Israel to continuously shore up corrupt Arab regimes to prolong the unpopular "peace" treaties with Israel, and without corruption and repression these unpopular treaties won't last for a day. As repression and corruption increases, these Arab regimes become even more unpopular which entails even more sustainable repression and corruption. This vicious circle of repression and corruption (which are required to sustain this version of "peace")
gehad1988 2 years ago
Because this version of "peace" ignores that facts that the Palestinian people have been ethnically cleansed and dispossessed of their homeland, it's extremely unpopular among Arabs. Consequently, Western Powers have resorted to all sorts of methods to impose this version of "peace" on Arab regimes, and as a result repression and corruption have reached unprecedented levels. The examples in the Arab World are too many to enumerate, especially in the occupied West Bank and Egypt.
gehad1988 2 years ago
* more repressive against their own people, * have the best intelligence services and torture centers the West can offer, * their democracy is almost non-existent at all levels, and * their economies cannot survive without foreign aid.
gehad1988 2 years ago
Since the inception of the Zionists movement, its founders and the Western Powers proclaimed that if Arabs accepted the Zionist vision (which aims to turn Palestine to a "Jewish majority state"), then "peace", prosperity, and democracy shall follow soon after. Paradoxically, what happened on the ground has been the complete opposite. It should be noted that up to this date, all Arab countries who accepted the Western version of "peace" and recognized the "Jewish state" have become
gehad1988 2 years ago
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gehad1988 2 years ago
Why Israel's history, the whole blood, killings, massacres, displacement, harvesting olives?
Why did not answer the question the existence of Israel, which is a party. The existence of Palestine. God created
gehad1988 2 years ago
G-d created Israel first
dsperlin 2 years ago 2
thers nothing call isreal !!
jwes wanna leave in aplace alone and they choose palestine hen the story of kiling and blood start !
why all muslim dont live in one palce ?
why all chrestine dont choose aplace and expel thier pple to live in it ? maybe rome
gehad1988 2 years ago
i told u why coz the religion live in the heart u dont need aland to live in it .
if wat jwes do in palestine right why they occupate it ?? if palestine was thier land jwes land why the war never stop !!
u talk simply from us u dont even know wats the meaning of massacar u just talk with cold blood
gehad1988 2 years ago
it's not all Israel's fault. Fault lies with the Arab countries and the Arab League for instigating violence and war. If it wasn't for the wars in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973, everyone would have been a lot better off.
You think just because your media offers a different perspective than that in Israel or America that its automatically correct. The fact is every media in the world is biased, that doesn't matter whether they're owned by Jews, Arabs, Christians or atheists.
dsperlin 2 years ago
look i try make u understand and look to other pple life !
to but urfelfe in thier setuation and think and i know u can do that maybe not now but o feel that ur not bad maybe u hate all the killing thing wat ur pple do is bad .
gone
gehad1988 2 years ago
What my people do is bad? You think all it's my people Of course. Everything is our fault. Your side isn''t to blame at all, sure.
Isn't that a little premature and a little simple-minded?
dsperlin 2 years ago
What my people do is bad? You think all it's my people Of course. Everything is our fault. Your side isn''t to blame at all, sure.
Isn't that a little premature and a little simple-minded?
wat ????
gehad1988 2 years ago
Just my point, is that you do not understand. you think it's all the fault of Israel, that Arabs may have a role in their own problems. That is the way you have guided this entire conversation
dsperlin 2 years ago
where was ur grand grand mother live?
gehad1988 2 years ago
She lived in the United States
dsperlin 2 years ago
After the Zionists separating a home. by expel or kill or displace people.'s She came simply and live in other pple home !
.. Why? you had to injustice from Hitler. Why accept injustice to others. wat u dont accept for yourself why ? Is this wat the Torah. told you ?
i dont think so its aholy book wich never allow this
Because the Koran prohibits it to me !
gehad1988 2 years ago
You are so wrong on everything you've said. i dont live in Israel. The Torah does not say to kill people, it says that G-d made a covenant with the entire Jewish people. We were granted a homeland in this covenant. The land was stolen. But G-d promised it would be returned. We did not return to kill people. That is not what we are about and we never intended for all that to happen. The Holocaust was what pushed for us to have this homeland. So it would never happen again
dsperlin 2 years ago
We dont believe that because of the Holocaust we can do injustice to other people. We just dont believe in waiting around for someone to kill thousands or millions of Jews again.
you dont think the actions of the Arab states have any ramifications on this conflict? It's all my people's fault?
dsperlin 2 years ago
Another thing, many Jews went through hell to get to Palestine. Do you know how many people were murdered by the Germans who tried to get there?
And even before 1948, Arabs did not like us, they persecuted us, made laws of discrimination and committed many acts of violence against us, simply because we tried to go home, before we even tried to create a state of Israel.
dsperlin 2 years ago
You seem to be able to know everything about me and Jews without really knowing them. What you do not understand, is our religion is the only one based on national revelation. We were specifically promised a place to live by G-d, that is a covenant, never to be rescinded. The West Bank is occupied for reasons that are very complicated, not that they are right. some Jews think all the land is their's and thats why they live there and it's very difficult to move them.
dsperlin 2 years ago
And another thing, Israel is not the only one with guns. Arabs have done crimes of their own and have not done everything in their power to stop the violence. Like the Saudi organizations who villify Jews and spread hatred. The war does not stop because both sides have trouble agreeing on peace, both Israel and the Arab states. You don't want to think of the possibility that the Arab states have had their own part in all of this. Violence begets violence.
dsperlin 2 years ago
It is not Israel's fault solely, and not the fault of the Arab States. Each side needs to understand that. That is the way to peace. Jews have been massacred just as Arabs have. The thing is we cannot generalize against the other's community. We cannot say all Jews or all Zionists like to kill people as we must say that all Arabs and Muslims are not terrorists. There are always two sides to every conflict, that is the truth. There are many Israelis who care, despite what you may think
dsperlin 2 years ago
I don't know the meaning of the word massacre? My entire family in Europe was killed off by the Germans. I am not saying what happened in Gaza was ok. I never said killing people was ok. I simply offer the idea that both sides of people need to understand that we need to co-exist, and allow for each other to have their state. that is what G-d intended, for both Israel and Palestine to live side by side, as he wanted Ishmael and Isaac to live together.
dsperlin 2 years ago
Our DATE is 60 years LATE, God willing sooner or later we shall return.
gehad1988 2 years ago
One person does not represent a whole. You don't understand why Zionism is so important to so many Jewish people and you don't want to try to understand. you take it at face value that its automatically an evil philosophy without thinking that it might not be the terrible philosophy you think it is, and it is only through bad situations that bad results occur.
dsperlin 2 years ago
gehad1988 2 years ago
We dont come to kill people. It was because the Arab League and people incited violence against us that this happened.
All we ever wanted was to live in Israel in peace, but that has never been granted. G-d made a special covenant with the Jewish people at Mt. Sinai, G-d gave us the Torah and we agreed to follow its laws. And G-d said we would always return to the land no matter what!
dsperlin 2 years ago
Gandhi was able to resist violence and was able to free India. If your cause is supposedly so just, why do you automatically resort to violence?
dsperlin 2 years ago
Palestinians have the weapons. Israel suddenly do not have anything. Not Tarat not hit the tank demolition and destruction. Cbe not. Imagine what the Israelis do with me? Is Ttejelhm begin to carry the stones to defend their homes. Do you expect any determination of survival. The obvious answer is that they will race to the aircraft and ships to their countries of origin of all fear. Because you know that the earth is not for you.
do u know wat is the right answer ?
gehad1988 2 years ago
The right answer is the end of racism and ignorance that fills people's minds like yours. I dont understand how someone can be so hateful. My entire family in Europe was killed. My culture lost one third of it's entire people, and I hold nothing against the German people. Jews and Israelis are a proud and strong people, we dont surrender easy. Look at WW2, and look at the Jewish resistance groups who lasted longer than the European armies!
dsperlin 2 years ago
u know u hate me ? you know palestini live with u even after all wat u do for them and most ofd them dont hurt u
u know wat they learning u at the school about arab so dont be innocent its so fake pls let me take this conversation seruoisly
gehad1988 2 years ago
I don't hate you. I hate what you believe and say. israelis are not hateful, stupid people. It's the fact they are in a violent area. Israel has been persecuted since the beginning of its existence, how do you think that will effect people? there are some that aren't nice but there are many Israelis who want to live in peace, they're tired of it, you think you know everything about this conflict and my homeland but you dont.
dsperlin 2 years ago
And I can say the same thing to you, that you dont understand and refuse to listen. The difference is, I don't blame Arabs solely. You blame my people only and thats not fair
dsperlin 2 years ago
palestine for palstinin not for any Immigrant, thief and we will trun it baaaaaaack soon
geeeeeeet OUT of our land pastrd
zoinst nazi human flish eating chind killer
go to hell u hater
gehad1988 2 years ago
That's right, just totally dehumanize the other side. It's always one sided right? For this reason is why there is so much strife in the world and if people could just try to listen and understand the other person, people would stop killing each other.
You can't deny the land once belonged to other people who were kicked out of their homes also.
dsperlin 2 years ago
no i deny this and if u belive prove it to me now !
and look if some one steal ur bag do u have the right to steal other pple bags ? ?
gehad1988 2 years ago
First, to what are you referring when you say "deny this"? Prove what?
We aren't stealing anyone's bags. We returned to the land that was rightfully ours, because there is no safe place for Jewish people in the world. We lived in the diaspora for 2000 years and all we got from people was grief, hatred and violence. That is why after the Holocaust the belief in a Jewish homeland became so strong.
dsperlin 2 years ago
If you have the right already. Why displacement, destruction, murder??
Let us think calmly and duty to my question.
gehad1988 2 years ago
Why did this all happen? Because people could not see past the cultural differences. People feared each other and instead of trying to understand each other, they resorted to suspicion and violence. This conflict is no one side's blame. That is rational. To blame it solely on Jews or Arabs is irrational
dsperlin 2 years ago
no all this happen coz of unjustce world coz u have more mony and wat depand on mony will never win . ok jwes have the right to live in palestine coz they lived in it some dasy in the history ok ?
gehad1988 2 years ago
Then by what you said here, too bad about Palestinians. Just because they lived there at some time, they dont now, so too bad. We kicked them out. That is what you're saying.
We dont have all the money. You obviously buy into all that anti-semitic crap the Arab media churns out. That is false and lies and creates hatred.
dsperlin 2 years ago
dont talk about the media here u have tthe wors media in the world ..
did u here about : Qana massacre - lucrative - Deir Yassin - the massacre of Gaza - the massacre of Sabra and Shatila
so u stil thing u didnt came to kill pple ???
gehad1988 2 years ago
Let's see, that all happened after the conflict started. This conflict went far back before Israel was even created. Arabs attacked Jews and Jews attacked Arabs. I don't know who attacked who first and it's not important at this point, because too many people on all sides have been killed.
We never came to kill people. All we wanted was a safe place from the rest of the world, so the Holocaust would never happen again
dsperlin 2 years ago
so isreal wasnt even exist its created by someone fore aresone but palestine were already exsit and has its peaceful pple and when the occupation come u exsit !
isreal strted on blood and killing
if u dont know go and look fore some real hustory and figer out how ur fake country (occupation ) strat
gehad1988 2 years ago
Please, the history of the Arabs has not been full of peace, so don't try that cheap shot.
The Arabs could have done what Gandhi did and gotten a lot more recognition instead of trying to attack Israel over and over. Israel had no intention of land grabbing or expelling people. It was when Arabs decided to kill other people in the land because they were Jews that you got violence.
dsperlin 2 years ago
why you talk about something u dont know ??
i cant lrean you now go and read
red the arabic history if u wanna talk about it .
read wat i wrote now i wanna u imagen somthing ..
gehad1988 2 years ago
Something I don't know? Please prove this. All you say is lies, and you dont prove anything. Thats the thing with you Arabs, you're all inbred and pathetic. you're all violent and hateful, you buy into crap, it proves how stupid you all are. Thats why you lost the land, because you're all idiots and went against G-d's plan to return the Jews to Eretz Yisrael!
dsperlin 2 years ago
prove prove prove i said reaaaaaaad
pls talk to me as i do with u i try to give u an idea i wanna u understand something why u dont read ?
gehad1988 2 years ago
Read what? Lies? I read truth. It's no one side's fault. You make this an entire anti-semitic conversation by saying that wherever Jews go, we just make trouble, when it is the people who meet us that don't like us because we are different and refuse to convert or be second-class citizens.
dsperlin 2 years ago
all pple deferent !! why u talk like this u talk as you poor and u get nothing
wat should i say
im dieng everyday when i remember palestine i swer i cry 4 that i cant sleep this 2 week coz i remember the first 3
gehad1988 2 years ago
I am not talking poor and I get nothing. I am referring to the Jewish people's history and what has happened to us for 2,000 years. If you havent understood what I am saying, there is nothing more I can say. The fact is, you dont want to understand my side.
dsperlin 2 years ago
I'm sure you could set me straight, by explaining how Jews do everything bad in the world right? We caused bad economies, the Black Plague, we kill children, we use children's blood for matzah, we killed the prophets, we dont believe in G-d, yep, right sure. You just know everything, I can see, you're a hypocrit!
dsperlin 2 years ago
dont put ur word in my mouth its not polit but u can understand me !
i dont hate jwes i have wat they do
i cant imagen that they just destroy everything and keep going and live there livs i dont wanna u be in bad stuation i wanna be live good but not by stealing anoth pple land how can u just take there land any live tell me where was ue grand grand mother live
honsly pls plss answer me
u know she wasnt im palestine right
gehad1988 2 years ago
You miss the point. It is belief that Israel is the land that G-d gave to the Jewish people and that we would be returned. It was stolen from us. It is our national homeland. It was not a common belief until 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis. After that we could never trust the world again. That is why we need a Jewish state in Israel. No other place in the world is perfectly safe.
dsperlin 2 years ago
ok we should attacked World from China to Siberia. Muslims have had days of this land???
is this asmart thing to say ???
do we have the right ??
just coz we someday own these lands ?
gehad1988 2 years ago
You are pathetic in your argument. You cannot spell correctly. You cannot make correct comparisons. And what you say is just ridiculous and unfounded
dsperlin 2 years ago
i dont care about the spilling i think u have nothing to say then u look to the spliing to talk about
i think ur the pathetic one here ..
i have great histoy strong character and
and clear vision i have something kiliing me i talk about it u live in other pple land and talk just fore luxury coz u used to kill i used to think and talk
gehad1988 2 years ago
If you could look at everything I wrote, you would know that all I care about is not simply spelling. You think you know me, you think you know how I live, where I live, how I think about people. You probably think I live to kill arab children and use their blood to make matzah right? You think the worst of people and it's apalling.
dsperlin 2 years ago
I happen to believe in peace and co-existence and so do many Israelis. Do you know how many Israelis protested the invasion of Gaza? Thousands of people. You think all Jews are terrible people and we hate and love to kill people and it is so far from the truth. You really know nothing about our culture, but lies from your media.
dsperlin 2 years ago
look just 80 years ago and u will see abeautiful land became to aland of blood WHY !
can i just come to ur home and said pls bring this home back its belong to my grand grand grand father when u have nothin to prove this big lie but u have gun and to u itsagood prove
gehad1988 2 years ago
so you're saying Jews never lived in Palestine? There's plenty of evidence all across Palestine. There's documents of the Dead Sea Scrolls, excavations of ancient Hebrew, stories, and the Jewish people, writings from Egypt, Greece and Rome, you cannot disprove all that.
Jews did not come to Palestine to kill people or cause trouble. The violence came afterwards and no one side is to blame. Both are to blame.
dsperlin 2 years ago
ahaa all this prove that u own the land ??
hmmmm
sp wat u think about pple living in the land already !!!!!!!!!
open ur eyes u just repeat wat u know nothing about .
gehad1988 2 years ago
I've repeated nothing. What I said, is called archaeological evidence, I don't know what you want. You're really an ignorant and bitter person, who just has their head stuck in the sand. You can call us killers and destroyers, but in your own words: "u just repeat wat u know nothing about"
dsperlin 2 years ago
ma morde jak obrzezany szczur :Pbez urazy ale takie mam zdanie
szyjucha19 2 years ago
Do Israel pilots feel happy killing innocent women and children? .... Many houses have been damaged, and many people have been wounded. ...
lebanese00 2 years ago
No we dont.
dsperlin 2 years ago
هاتو سلاحكم ونشوف اذا رح تبقوا بالارض يوم واحد زياده نشوف لو وقف واحد منكم ومسك حجر مثل اهل فلسطين رح تجرو كلكم ع البحر والسفن مثل ماجيتو لأنكم عارفين انها مش ارضكم ومش رح تدافعوا عنها بالحجاره مثل ابطال فلسطين ولو يوم واحد فقط .
gehad1988 2 years ago
Israeli pilots are very good flyers...
dudemantwo 2 years ago
This is British?
dudemantwo 2 years ago
arabs want peace lol?? then why all this racist videos ya 3nsareen
Yahoodi1 2 years ago
ent 3araby???
jaf8max 2 years ago
عنصريين لاننا ندافع عن ارضنا الي سرقتوها قبل 80 سنه . ب 0 سنه بس حولتوها لأكبر مسرح دماء قتل وتدمير ومجازر . واثبت الشعب الفلسطيني انه قوى الخير مهما كانت ضعيفه مستحيل تنهزم . شباب فلسطين ابطال رغم عدم تكافوء السلاح .
gehad1988 2 years ago
We don't want peace! With whom we'll make peace!! with israel?? are you kidding us?? Israel is the biggest terroristic country on earth!
havenergy 2 years ago
ur just great
gehad1988 2 years ago
I think this is all just a bit overdone
dsperlin 3 years ago
arab never wanted peace. sorry but this is the truth. at least be honest. they say they want peace but one-on-one or asked on the street, they want the destruction of israel.
with all due respect, why not 1st getting your house in order, stop killing each other, re-instate or actually instate human rights amongst yourselves. then perhaps the world will listen and take your grievances with israel seriously. they don't now seeing the rampant arab-on-arab death, mayhem and unspeakable atrocities
dsgspm 3 years ago
wooooow i like that
thanks
fatooomah 3 years ago
I've been delaying things I need to do(like, move out of my place which I need to do quickly). Christ told us that wars will continue so conflicts will increase. There will be no real peace till the God and Savior Jesus Christ reigns on this earth after saving Israel from many of the armies of the world-most will be Islamic(see Ezekiel 38-39) in the battle of Armaggedon. May the Lord Jesus continue showing Himself to Muslims which have become Christians as a result of it.
Christbepraised 3 years ago
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Sorry folks, but Israel normally attacks only when attacked first. And, when one of you says,"I don't want peace, I want to kill the Israeli f----ers, what do you expect Israel to do when suicide bombers are sent into Israel?
Christbepraised 3 years ago
israel kills a man just because another guy from his town is suspected a terrorist. or renders a family homeless just because a distant cousin went wacko and decided to join hamas. israel's collective punishment have put many innocent people in harms way for no good reason and hence increased the hatred toward israel, leading to these attacks.
do you think that hammas will have an easy time recruiting suicide bomber if palest. are treated in dignity??
ATMleb 3 years ago
When a leader calls for the destruction of another country that makes him a threat. He also said he will stamp out Christianity. And, the nearly 10,000 acts of terrorism around the world since 9/11 is Israel's fault. Israel has also given up territory and if countries would stop sending suicide bombers into Israel you can expect much of the violence to stop.
Christbepraised 3 years ago
how could u call your self a smart person when all ur bias words shows ignorance!!!! yes ur right israel offered alot of land hahah, yeah let me just put it in a way that ur narrow mind might understand, i will come and occupy ur house and throw u in the back yard, and then i will offer u a part of ur kitchen back :) see i am a nice guy .....I STILL FUCKIN OCCUPY THE WHOLE DAMN HOUSE, and if u fight me 2 get ur house back then i will call the cops and tell em a " TERRORIST" is attackin me ;)
kr8or 3 years ago
i agree
BeHBeHaNia777q8 3 years ago
...and when Saudi textbooks call Christians "swine" and Jews "condemnable", what do you expect Israel to do if Iran gets nukes?
Christbepraised 3 years ago
Iran is the biggest rival of the Saudis, and a nuclear Iran is disaster for them. so your point makes no sense. and for the records saudi textbooks also label other muslims as traitors.
ATMleb 3 years ago
When Abinajaed(sp?) the ruler of Iran says,"Israel is a stinky country. They should be wiped off the face of the earth." What do you expect Israel to do if they develop nukes?
Christbepraised 3 years ago
but he never said that he will launch military campaign against Israel. he said that Israel people will take down this racist regime. Iran didn't invade any country for the last 2 centuries. I can't say the same thing about israel
ATMleb 3 years ago
haha there u go again dumbass, u talk about ppl who u can speel their name right , thats what the media propagnada does best, now u think ur a middle eastern expert :) um the name is Mahmoud Ahmadi Najjad, and go try 2 find an exact translation to what he said :) u will find it very weird that his comments did not match anythin Fox news told ya it meant
kr8or 3 years ago
peace 4 whome ? JEWS HAHA
EMAGIRLX 3 years ago
our book says the jewish and Christian won't make peace with the Muslim and i'm muslim and i believe that all people who are not muslim hut us and they want us to died
Bush support Isreal So....
wahaby19 3 years ago
jews don't flag this its a joke
000X4BOX 3 years ago
KURDISTAN WILL RISE AND YOU WILL BE FUCKED!!! THen you'll have four enemies: ISRAEL, KURDISTAN, ARMENIA AND TURKEY!!! Your days are counted!!! You're dictators, that's why the intelligent Arabs escape to Israel, gays have rights in Israel u hang them primitive people, you not civilized, you're brainless, the only thing u know is to chop heads if people don't accept Islam!!!
uzimotti 3 years ago
kurdistan and turkey are muslim countries fulled with muslims and chratiants how that is going to help
000X4BOX 3 years ago
HAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Kurdistan!!! HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
u seriously think that the kurds (roughly about 100 000 ppl) would take over the world hahahahahah , and u r so smart and knowledgeable about islam :) yes they chop ur head if u dont become a muslim?!?1 what happened to : LA IKRAH FIL DEEN ? (u cannot force no one to belive in islam) they have to be convinced and choose it not be forced to it
dumb fuck
kr8or 3 years ago
More than welcome in the future Arab country? Dream on dictators, you expelled 900,000 Jews from Arab countries, confiscated all that was theirs, took away their citizenship, killed thousands, public hanging....etc! Even before you always treated them like third class citizens, heavy taxed! You're conquers, soon u will have another Israel KURDISTAN they hate u more than we do!!
uzimotti 3 years ago
i dont want peace i want to kill the israel fuckers
b1m1b3x4 3 years ago
I was one of those who belived in peace with Israel,, TODAY THEY CAN LICK MY ASS BECUSE WE WILL KICK THEM OUT TO THE SEA, JUST BECUSE TEY ATTACKED LIBANON AND CIVILIAN PALESTINIANS
amrjosef 3 years ago 2
I feel for the palestinians, what israel has and is doing to them is wrong beyond understanding or logic. If youv studied the ghettos of 1942 and the Ones in the west bank and Gaza today, they are identical.
I am American, and the problem here is that our Gov. Sees Israel as allies, they will land entire divisions into Israel in order to defend, not only will palestinians not get thier land back, but they lose the little land they hold.
Vrael473 3 years ago 2
oh yea & don't talk like israel don't want peace at all!!
amiroged 3 years ago 2
yea lots of them dose realy wants peace!
but the problem is part of them don't realy with that & they are holding back violently the arabs who wants peace
amiroged 3 years ago
ur very right my friend, some of us muslims and arabs want peace , and some jews and israelis want peace, but its always the asshole goverments that rule us see no money in it and dont want peace, hopefully one day soon i will invite you to come visit me in beirut to have lunch and me visit you in tel aviv to do dinner :) peace my friend
kr8or 3 years ago 2
thanx for the post
kilodhahab 3 years ago
Yeah - then let's kick all the friggin' muslims out of Bosnia, Chechnia, U.K., U.S., Turkey, Spain etc. etc. Israel is so tiny. Muslims need to get over it. Nobody Likes you or believes you. You look really ignorant. You guys were angry before Israel. Don't make excuses for your behavior with propoganda.
granitepeace 3 years ago
lol, that was funny :)
Israel4ever1 3 years ago
the peace the want is when jewish will be all death haha what a funy propaganda
elpcon 3 years ago
I hope the sionists are not dump enough that they belive they are the chosen motherfuckers., in the end of the tunnel it will be russia 4 all jews in Palestine
amrjosef 3 years ago
Thanks you fro proving my point. you don't want land you want us all dead.
Israel4ever1 3 years ago
that was for amrjosef
Israel4ever1 3 years ago
Israel4ever<Really I dont give a fuck, I cant identifie in my text that I said I wish you all dead, I Sayed hope you go back home to Russia your homecountry. Thats what I sayed,, Arabjews are welcome to stay in a Palestine 4 all palestinian including jewish palestinians. But you please look at yourself in the merror you will discover that you are not even oriental,do you understand??? And please dont say bibel , I dont belive in bibel and I dont belive in Koran I only belive in reality and love.
amrjosef 3 years ago
Ok I'm half Moracan, half Yemen so we're cool.
1israel4ever1 3 years ago
If you are an arabjew , you are more than welcome to stay in an future arabic country for all arabs dosent matter if you are christian, jew, muslim or even athiest.
amrjosef 3 years ago
lol, I doubt they would bother to check who's Arab and who's not.
Can u ask them to make sure their rockets don't fall on the Arab Jews?
1israel4ever1 3 years ago
Hope the Arabs arn't dumb enough to buy this shit
JasonVz 3 years ago
My goodness me what a disgusting mossad psyop
JasonVz 3 years ago
YOu fuckers sionists GO HOME TO RUSSIA, ERITREA AND UKRAINE, GO HOME TO YOUR ARABHOMELANDS,, PALESTINE BELONG TO PALESTINIANS, AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN MIDDLEEASTERNS GO HOME YOU FUCKERS, BITCHES WE GIVE YOU 80% OF PALESTINE GIVE US BACK 20 % OF OUR HOMELANDS YOU DIRTY APES
amrjosef 3 years ago
Oh gee, anouther Arab Fuckhead. We will take over the world and you will be pushed back into the desert where you came from. You are a puss, a poop pusher, rapist ass, the only thing good that came from you is Halva. Go suck on a date prick.
ChiefOren 3 years ago
Peace On Earth - Heaven on Earth
vezum9 4 years ago
Arabs want peace.
Ok
Then get your people to stop blowing shit up.
Vrael473 4 years ago
lol
Angel4eva 4 years ago
is our land not arab land!!! and we will tack it back!!
Shalom Israel
david15m 4 years ago
This is bullshit.
I'm not a Zionist.but i believe that Palestine was never Arab land. arab land is arabia a majority of the arab world consists of lands they stole from other people.(ironic aint that)Israel didnt steal shit only claimed what was once theirs.
Last time I checked Jesus wasnt an arab lol.
Its not ARAB LAND!!!!
besides the british granted the jews a homeland in the 1917 declaration which the ARABS refused.blame the british not israelis.
Angel4eva 4 years ago
but to clarify what i mean is land dont have a ethnicity.
When Palestine mandate existed Palestine was Palestinian land.
Angel4eva 4 years ago
Last I checked Jesus, Moses and his people were all dark skinned! Not the greedy ass Jews u see today!
ILoveThickChicks88 4 years ago
Last I checked Jesus, Moses and his people were all dark skinned! Unlike the greedy ass Jews u see today!
ILoveThickChicks88 4 years ago
greedy jews? wtf they only want ONE country in their spiritual homeland.muslims have mecca and medina. ASK URSELF who is THE GREEDY ONE.
BTW HALF OF ISRAELIS ARE DARK-SKINNED LIKE JESUS(MIZRAHI)
ARABS HAVE 22 COUNTRIES,MUSLIMS 57 and still want more.
YET THE JEWS R GREEDY?
Angel4eva 4 years ago