@Twinblackstripes Man, ive got a '69 GTO judge 455 w/600+HP....Ive driven without insurance, passed police going over 120.....and im sure if things get so bad Gas wise, I'll hit an all new lvl of outlaw go on the run and just jack gas along the way.
Lol, don't bother responding to "68chargerlover"... he's your typical American muscle fanboy who refuses to accept that other continents have the ability to create not only cars, but often better cars than the Americans.
@68chargerlover The Gumpert Apollo S is as much of a production car as the Viper ACR is. The only difference is that Gumpert actually built it and the ACR is a tuned version of a Dodge Viper that's not exactly built by Dodge itself.
@ArcanineKing Funny I have seen viper acrs around I havent seen any gumperts. Also the gumpert is a 300k to 400k dollar car the viper acr is 100k and it only beat the viper by one second. So put down the crack pipe, the viper is an impresive car and beat a lot of very fast cars so get over it.
@68chargerlover You've seen a Viper ACRs locally, but the Gumpert's more in Europe than it is in USA, so stop bashing on the car just because you've never seen it. The Nurburgring Lap Times that beat the ACR by 'one second' were in fact lap times for PRODUCTION CARS. Also, one second is substantial in motorsports, a full second ahead of another car could mean it's slower than the other. And also, both cars could go faster if they had different drivers.
@ArcanineKing Yes I have seen viper acrs, but no gumpert, still for 300k and only a second thats sad. I would beat a 300k dollar viper acr would have passed the gumpert
@68chargerlover I don't think price is an issue here, once again.
For example, I doubt you'd buy the ACR if it was the Dodge that was at $300,000 and instead get the Gumpert if it was $100,000 and was a second faster than the ACR.
Every second counts. Being one second away from a car is significant, but you wouldn't know that, you don't know MOTORSPORTS.
There aren't many, if any, ACRs in Europe, same can be said in USA about the Gumpert. But the fact is, they are production.
@ArcanineKing no again price is an issue, the car thats 100 is easier to get for the common guy vs a car thats 300 to a million. And sorry to hurt your feeling the viper acr IS the fastest production car around nurenburgring. The Gumpert is only available as a built to order car and is not road worthy in many areas, not like the viper acr. I know other countries have fast cars, but you down play what America has for exotic fast cars, a field dominated by high end sports cars only.
@68chargerlover I'm sorry, I must have missed the Production Car Times on the Nurburgring. Also, where can I buy the ACR? It's odd because, like the Apollo, they're only built by specific people. How many ACRs are there? Did you also know that Gumpert announced 25 cars to be PRODUCED when they unveiled the car? And three years later after that, there was a 40th car? That's called production.
Let's compare the price: Apollo is fully carbon fiber. ACR is not. That's why the price is different.
@ArcanineKing And also, I like SOME American exotics. ACR is not an American exotic, sorry to say. It's a damn American Club Racing car built and assembled by a third party called Prefix Corporation, not MOPAR nor Dodge.
If I wanted American exotics, I'd go with the more low-slung and mid-engine Ford GT. An EXOTIC is a car that's hard or expensive to acquire. Anyone can get a Viper or a Corvette, but not everyone can get a Ford GT.
@68chargerlover Now, prove this to me, HOW many ACRs are there been produced, then sold? The Apollo has already got over 70 cars built since then, and can be bought from Gumpert with an inquiry.
How about the ACR? How do YOU get one, and HOW MANY are there built? And also, I'll repeat myself: If the ACR were to cost $300,000 and the Apollo $100,000 instead, and the Apollo was still a second faster than the ACR, you would get the Apollo.
@ArcanineKing Its well over 1,000 viper acrs that includes the viper arc x. The Apollo maybe fast but it can only be driven in germany. Where the viper acr can be driven anywhere. You can order the acr right from Dodge. And no the viper would be faster if it were priced at 300k, sorry to hurt your feelings. And 1 sec is sad for 300k. Admidt it the viper acr is amazing. And you would still have to special order a ford gt, and its slower then the acr. Plus the viper looks so sweet
@68chargerlover If 1,000 ACRs were actually produced, why aren't they on car listings such as cars.com, autotrader, etc? I've looked and even their production numbers are a mystery. And also, the Gumpert is driven everywhere too; This is where you show you have bogus info. There have been Gumperts in Germany, Saudi Arabia, UK, even the USA and Canada.
I'll have to ask the sources for your information :|
@ArcanineKing You say the gumpert is driven everywhere I would say not, looks like germany only, they may start to be sold in the USA but at the cost to own one you would have to be a billionaire.
It's basically a car produced by an independent car manufacturer using an Audi V8 twin turbo, technically, the cost to own one is the same as owning an Audi R8, so no, it's no Veyron to maintain.
And there are currently four Gumperts in the United States, since most of them are rolling out in Europe and Saudi Arabia, and UK.
Just because a car is one second faster than a Dodge doesn't mean it's not worth buying it. That's your problem.
@ArcanineKing Uhmm no I would bet insurance is thru the roof. Sorry if someone gave me a gumpert I would take it then sell it I can do more with 300k to other cars and still have money left. At least the viper acr is a car by dodge thats production, thats not made by an independent manufactured whos frankensteined parts together from other companies. So the viper acr is the fastest producton car around nurenburgring. Got to have respect where its due my friend.
@68chargerlover You don't know shit about insurance, as clearly any sports car with two doors and more than 500 horsepower can mean high insurance costs, and that includes the Dodge Viper ACR. Same for the Gumpert, same for anything else.
And you're telling me that a Gumpert, an independent car manufacturer, with an Audi V8 engine, is gonna cost a lot? That's nonsense you're talking right there. And Gumpert and the other cars above the ACR are production cars!
@ArcanineKing Get real a car that costs 300 to 400 grand is going to have exstreamly high insurance dumbass. And yes a car that costs 300 to 400 grand is going to have higher insurance then a car thats 100k. And Gumpert is an independent car company that has a car from other companies. The Viper is all Dodge, the engine isnt from ford or lamborgini. So the viper acr is the fastest production car around nurenburgring thats not a frankenstein car. Your and idiot !!!
@Vaicurious I can see the '40 year old road boat' has two big advantages:
One, I can see it has a race-spec chassis built into the Charger, which means the guy that owns it built his Charger, and added track tires and race-spec suspension, and maybe just a tad of tuning and upgrade with a different GM engine. Dude might have shaved off a ton of weight for weight distribution and balanced handling.
On the other hand, the Lambo looks pretty much stock.
What are you talking about? The car clearly still has back seats and a full interior. No way is that race spec. sure obviously he had added some things to the chassis but does adding a CAI or Pulleys turn your car into a drag machine? Oh and Dodge is Mopar- not GM.
"Lambo looks pretty much stock"
people who can afford Lamborghini's hardly ever leave them stock, but even then it's a GODDAMNED LAMBORGHINI. The price difference tells all.
@nWo85 Yea, it's funny how much "The Charger" received so much glory from cinema. I mean, even the Producers of "Dukes of Hazard" said that the car received more fan mail than the actors, literally. LOL!
What was the Charger in "Dukes of Hazard"??? 68, 70???
@elvisfan22 It would have been a blast to ride in daisy or the general lee or ride in daisy in the general lee, both very nice rides lol. And the general lee was a combination of some 68s but most were 69s
@ipic32 we are the richest country we have the ford GT, viper, corvette, ultimate aero, MOPAR, and kickass food, i think you just got owned euro bitch
Cars used to be built for teenagers, built for power and fun. They were built to be fast, but not all out speed. You're putting a car that is over 40 years old against a modern multimillion dollar car that is built for the rich who want speed. People shouldnt expect the charger to win (even though i wish it did :p) the charger has history, the lamborghini doesn't. a race like this isn't comparing apples to apples. but, in my opinion, the dodge charger is the sickest car that has ever existed.
I feel as if I must comment to clear others tunnel vision. There really couldn't have been a more diverse race if you tried. 2 complete seperate classes of cars here. Old school vs. New school. A muscle car vs. an exotic. The Charger was NEVER built for this type of racing, yet look what he accomplished! But, to say that Lambo's "suck"? Really?! And, the Lambo's were built for this. Go watch something from Underground Racing. Change your mind quickly. Gorgeous Charger btw.
Who needs a Hemi? Those engines are old technology,and people I've met with them always talk of the problems with getting high enough octane fuel to make them run well.A well built 383 or 440,or even a 340 for that matter is an excellent engine. The big block chryslers are great engines,capable of real power,far better than any chevy,and a nicely built one is so smooth and torquey! The charger here isn't all that heavy,either,a little suspension work and it can handle better than you'd think.
@Oldbmwr100rs you do realize every engine nowadays is a HEMI design? the first hemi engines to make a name for themself were the chrysler 392 and 426. but nowadays, where every engine is a HEMI design, chrysler continues to call their big engines HEMI's because they make alotta power. so when people say "wow its a HEMI" its pretty much like saying something as dumb as "wow it has fuel injection!"
@need2speed94 I LOL'd at that! Look up the design of the hemispeherical combustion chamber,and tell me again about it. Most engines these days are 4 valve,and unless they're very deeply radial it's not a hemi. Look up info about Westlake engineering,they created the "Pentroof" chamber and made 4 valve engines work right back before WW2.As it is today,Chrysler is stretching it a bit to claim their "Hemi" actually is a real hemi design.
@Oldbmwr100rs there are plenty of cars out there with the hemi design, im not sure what you drive (maybe a prius), yes there are cars out there that are 4v, dont get me wrong. my cobra is a 4v. id much prefer a pushrod 2v but its still a beast. and i dont think they should even call them HEMI's anymore, there are shitty compact 4 cyl european cars out there that have hemispherical heads, but they dont emphasize on it being a hemi. but, there are plenty of engines out there that are 2v as well.
@need2speed94 Ok,just to let you know,I'm a journeyman mechanic by trade,also a licensed aircraft mechanic as well as master certified BMW technician,so I'm not some net dweeb out to start trouble. I know what I'm talking about. The word"Hemi" is a powerful marketing gimmick for car sales,and even though a lot of people use it,it's used pretty liberally. And no,I don't drive a prius,my two are a '03 BMW 530 and a Suzuki GRAND Vitara with a V6. I also have 5 bikes,2 are true hemis.
@Oldbmwr100rs well im not out to start trouble either. i do want to know why you chose to go with BMW. i think they're german engineerings downfall. my mom has owned two BMWs, an 04 525i and now she owns an 09 535i. being expensive "luxury" cars, i had thought that they would be more reliable than they have been. dont get me wrong, every car has its issues but for a car that exceeds 40,000-50,000$ i think it should require low maintenance. this is not the case and in fact there were many recalls
@need2speed94 Yeah, I seem to gravitate toward german cares for some reason,and the '03 was the last year of what's considered about the best of the 5 series,it's been a great car,honestly.The '04 was the first year of a new model, and those were a nightmare for bmw at the time.I don't think I'll buy any modern BMW's after this though,not after working for them. I had an '04 Mustang GT that I loved,but the insurance just kept going up each year,even though my record was clean.
Pretty damn good.Your comparing A car that has 60 technology vs a 2010 mutlimillion race technolgy, and still...the Dodge falls 3 seconds short of the lambo.
If I had my choice I'd take the Lambo,then sell it and buy a fully restored 1967 Charger,a fully restored 1969 Charger and a fully restored 1971 Charger !
Results like this can also be found in areas like the Optima Ultimate Street Car challenge. Not only do the exotic imports get trounced, but even new American cars lose out to the classics. Just goes to show that there's not a damn thing inherently wong with cars like this. They were awesome when they came out, and awesome again 40+ years later with a little upgrading and you still pay less than those shmucks did and for a better car, too.
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Im an import lover, ok, but cars of such beauty can never, NEVER be overlooked! Chargers, Challengers, Roadrunners, Chevelles, Camaros, GTO's, all of them, beautiful machines
Who cares how much gas it burns....it's a good old American muscle car. I have a '68 Charger and will drive it till the damn wheels fall off...............There is plenty of fossil fuel/coal left in the ground........The US alone has more coal than Saudi has oil !
What a car!! One of my all time fave's!! The sound of a proper car, not this gay shit you get "cruising" round macdonalds! If one was available in UK I'd get it! Rock the car dude \m/
@swalte6325 well if you think of it. most muscle cars especially classics like these are usually used on the strip. Lambo's however are more for the track. Lambo's are built to do these kinds of events. with stiff suspension, and low center of gravity and balance. Classic muscle cars dont have all that
@Curt705900 there is only 2 60's muscle cars that you wouldnt have to do anything 2. the corvette stingray and the shelby cobra. i dont even know if they should even be considered muscle cars. they r more like sports cars
@generalleegoku One of the last autocrosses i went to i had a Shelby Cobra in my line up and i was impressed of how good it handled, guess they are more for the handling kind of races, but i havent witnessed a stingray yet so im curious to see how good it handles (if it was just about stock)
Lambos in general have more power, better weight distribution, & they're lighter amongst other things. I've got nothing against mopar, but I'm not going to sell my Countach in favor of American muscle anytime soon. Nice to see some muscle in the autocross arena though.
@DrkRonin03 more power lol wow your on drugs, sorry a built hemi would spank the lambo, some factory hemis put out over 700hp factory. You keep your overpriced status symbol car, the lambo is very impractical and only used to show off the size of your wallet
I will ask you kindly to leave my drug addiction out of this.
A "built" Lambo would spank a "built" hemi. You're not comparing apples to apples. A Lamborghini also has many uses other than showing the size of your wallet. You can use it to drive to the store, you can use it as a table to set things on, you could use it as a fancy mechanism to convert petrol into co2 (AKA a doomsday machine), or you could even wear it as a hat if your bone structure allows it.
@DrkRonin03 for one uhmm no a built hemi has been known to put out 8000hp, no lambo built or not has come close to that or getting 4s in the 1/4 mile. You cant go to the store, most wont leave their big money car in a parking lot. Insurance is out of this world, repairs are nuts, it has no real trunk and you can only take one other person with you. And if your skull is that thick that you can wear it as a hat you have more problems then you know.
8000hp? You're talking about nitromethane-fueled dragsters. At that point you can't even call it a hemi. You can build anything if you have the time & money. I've seen 1500hp PETROL Lamborghinis built. Oh, and it's an AWD layout which is better for drag racing than FR, that's how the 400hp GTR can beat a 630hp Super Snake on a drag strip. More grip means a better launch, & a bigger engine means more potential power.
@DrkRonin03 yes and even with nitro the lambo couldnt reach those numbers, and yes you can call it a hemi, look it up and learn of why its a hemi. 1500 is nothing. Sorry the hemi is the king, the lambo is a status symbol car and a joke for rich snobs to drive.
@68chargerlover Hey, I love good old american V8, but don't look down on Lamborghinis, and even more when you're talking about a Lamborghini Countach!
What are you arguing? The Lambo, a status symbol car? Rolls-Royce is a status symbol car, not Lamborghini.
Anyways this guy is right : you can't compare a Charger to a Countach. V8 versus V12? You'll never get the same crank, torque, nor the same horsepower from a NA v8 than from a NA v12. You'll just end up being less powerful. Deal with it!
@Seventaiji Any car costing more than $80,000 when bought is a Status Symble. I also find it interesting that you compare engines. Size wise, American V8's have always been Larger, and knowing this, the standard Lambo V12 is a 6 Litre Engine. This makes a 70's firebird engine larger, at 6.6Litres or 402Ci. Also, probably the most Customized US Engine, the Ford 289, can be improved to the point of making 800 HP without doubling its displacement.
@Seventaiji The one Area the Lambo has an advantage in these races is that it is an ALL WHEEL Drive vehicle. This means it handles a bit better around the corners. Don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against them. I like Classic Cars, including the Lamborghini Miura. However, My favorites are always American Cars, with the 1965 Shelby Daytona Coupe at the top of the list. It was a 200 mile per hour capable Car in 65. Funny, Lambos haven't improved much over that with their superiority. Sorry.
@68chargerlover And yeah, there are hellish V8 that can make more than 2000hp with nitromethane fuel! Yeah you'll always find the same for a V12 built under the same conditions, but with more horsepower and even more torque. Yeah it is physical, NO I'm not an "import" pro guy, I'm just a lover of exceptionnal cars.
And as I could sell a house to buy a Charger, I'd do the same for a Countach. We are talking about jewelry of the car industry.
I know why they call it a hemi. I'm saying that once it has been stripped, fabricated, & modified past a certain point it's a hemi in name only. Also, a nitro-methane Lamborghini should in theory produce more power. the hemi isn't a magical engine that somehow produces an infinite amount of power. Bigger engine = more power if everything else is equal. Everything else includes: compression ratio, volumetric efficiency of the intake & exhaust, low reciprocating mass, etc.
@DrkRonin03 uhmmm no even stripped and modded it still has the valves in the same location and the same set up. And I've never seen a lambo built even close to the same potental as the hemi. The lambo is just a status symbol car.
That's because you can't use 8000hp in Le Mans. It's an endurance race, not a >5 second long straight line sprint. Different car, different purpose. I'm done talking about this. Have fun in your magical car that is somehow better than everything else for no apparent reason.
240p we meet again...
LoadinGTX 2 months ago 3
who cares about insurance, or gas mileage? Thumbs up if u wanted to see the Charger whoop the Lambo??
dorado1221 2 months ago
Who gives a FUCK about insurance cost when you drive a car of this caliber?
You know what, lets argue about gas mileage!!!
Twinblackstripes 2 months ago 3
@Twinblackstripes Man, ive got a '69 GTO judge 455 w/600+HP....Ive driven without insurance, passed police going over 120.....and im sure if things get so bad Gas wise, I'll hit an all new lvl of outlaw go on the run and just jack gas along the way.
SONofAnamVet 1 month ago
@SONofAnamVet We are the same person.
Twinblackstripes 1 month ago
@Twinblackstripes Im not 100% sure I want to say thats a good thing Haha
SONofAnamVet 1 month ago
@SONofAnamVet LMFAO!
Twinblackstripes 1 month ago
Lol, don't bother responding to "68chargerlover"... he's your typical American muscle fanboy who refuses to accept that other continents have the ability to create not only cars, but often better cars than the Americans.
HFLanciaStratos 2 months ago
the sound of that charger makes me hard
appleipodtouch2g 3 months ago
Damn , you drive like I do, out here in the boonies of Montana, I drive that way going to get gas.
68chargercrazy 3 months ago
Ugh, get on with it already.
epcdaniel 3 months ago
i love american muscle to death, but they can't race in anything other than straight-aways.... its a shame
berserker2111 4 months ago
@berserker2111 well do body builders run obstacle courses?
BraveSpartan7 3 months ago 2
@berserker2111
so? that's what they were built for, they are street cars not race cars.
The RACE CARS in the trans/am races could turn wonderfully.
Vaicurious 3 months ago
All that set up and work just for an 18 second run? WTH?
findurpath 4 months ago
Lol the zr1 smokes any car in it's power class for less money. plus the new challenger is also bad ass. American cars are making a come back.
CaliforniaBear707 5 months ago
@CaliforniaBear707 lol uhmm no the viper acr is better, sorry to burst your bubble
68chargerlover 3 months ago
@68chargerlover Gumpert Apollos S > Viper ACR.
ArcanineKing 3 months ago
@ArcanineKing uhmm no, the Gumpert only beat the viper acr by one sec and its 200k more. Plus the viper is a production car where the Gumpert isnt.
68chargerlover 3 months ago
@68chargerlover The Gumpert Apollo S is as much of a production car as the Viper ACR is. The only difference is that Gumpert actually built it and the ACR is a tuned version of a Dodge Viper that's not exactly built by Dodge itself.
What are you smoking?
ArcanineKing 3 months ago
@ArcanineKing Funny I have seen viper acrs around I havent seen any gumperts. Also the gumpert is a 300k to 400k dollar car the viper acr is 100k and it only beat the viper by one second. So put down the crack pipe, the viper is an impresive car and beat a lot of very fast cars so get over it.
68chargerlover 3 months ago
@68chargerlover You've seen a Viper ACRs locally, but the Gumpert's more in Europe than it is in USA, so stop bashing on the car just because you've never seen it. The Nurburgring Lap Times that beat the ACR by 'one second' were in fact lap times for PRODUCTION CARS. Also, one second is substantial in motorsports, a full second ahead of another car could mean it's slower than the other. And also, both cars could go faster if they had different drivers.
You've seen ACRs when they were limited?
ArcanineKing 3 months ago
@ArcanineKing Yes I have seen viper acrs, but no gumpert, still for 300k and only a second thats sad. I would beat a 300k dollar viper acr would have passed the gumpert
68chargerlover 3 months ago
@68chargerlover I don't think price is an issue here, once again.
For example, I doubt you'd buy the ACR if it was the Dodge that was at $300,000 and instead get the Gumpert if it was $100,000 and was a second faster than the ACR.
Every second counts. Being one second away from a car is significant, but you wouldn't know that, you don't know MOTORSPORTS.
There aren't many, if any, ACRs in Europe, same can be said in USA about the Gumpert. But the fact is, they are production.
ArcanineKing 2 months ago
@ArcanineKing no again price is an issue, the car thats 100 is easier to get for the common guy vs a car thats 300 to a million. And sorry to hurt your feeling the viper acr IS the fastest production car around nurenburgring. The Gumpert is only available as a built to order car and is not road worthy in many areas, not like the viper acr. I know other countries have fast cars, but you down play what America has for exotic fast cars, a field dominated by high end sports cars only.
68chargerlover 2 months ago
@68chargerlover I'm sorry, I must have missed the Production Car Times on the Nurburgring. Also, where can I buy the ACR? It's odd because, like the Apollo, they're only built by specific people. How many ACRs are there? Did you also know that Gumpert announced 25 cars to be PRODUCED when they unveiled the car? And three years later after that, there was a 40th car? That's called production.
Let's compare the price: Apollo is fully carbon fiber. ACR is not. That's why the price is different.
ArcanineKing 2 months ago
@ArcanineKing And also, I like SOME American exotics. ACR is not an American exotic, sorry to say. It's a damn American Club Racing car built and assembled by a third party called Prefix Corporation, not MOPAR nor Dodge.
If I wanted American exotics, I'd go with the more low-slung and mid-engine Ford GT. An EXOTIC is a car that's hard or expensive to acquire. Anyone can get a Viper or a Corvette, but not everyone can get a Ford GT.
That's the thinking you're missing.
ArcanineKing 2 months ago
@68chargerlover Now, prove this to me, HOW many ACRs are there been produced, then sold? The Apollo has already got over 70 cars built since then, and can be bought from Gumpert with an inquiry.
How about the ACR? How do YOU get one, and HOW MANY are there built? And also, I'll repeat myself: If the ACR were to cost $300,000 and the Apollo $100,000 instead, and the Apollo was still a second faster than the ACR, you would get the Apollo.
ArcanineKing 2 months ago
@ArcanineKing Its well over 1,000 viper acrs that includes the viper arc x. The Apollo maybe fast but it can only be driven in germany. Where the viper acr can be driven anywhere. You can order the acr right from Dodge. And no the viper would be faster if it were priced at 300k, sorry to hurt your feelings. And 1 sec is sad for 300k. Admidt it the viper acr is amazing. And you would still have to special order a ford gt, and its slower then the acr. Plus the viper looks so sweet
68chargerlover 2 months ago
@68chargerlover If 1,000 ACRs were actually produced, why aren't they on car listings such as cars.com, autotrader, etc? I've looked and even their production numbers are a mystery. And also, the Gumpert is driven everywhere too; This is where you show you have bogus info. There have been Gumperts in Germany, Saudi Arabia, UK, even the USA and Canada.
I'll have to ask the sources for your information :|
ArcanineKing 2 months ago
@ArcanineKing You say the gumpert is driven everywhere I would say not, looks like germany only, they may start to be sold in the USA but at the cost to own one you would have to be a billionaire.
68chargerlover 2 months ago
@68chargerlover The cost to own one is nil.
It's basically a car produced by an independent car manufacturer using an Audi V8 twin turbo, technically, the cost to own one is the same as owning an Audi R8, so no, it's no Veyron to maintain.
And there are currently four Gumperts in the United States, since most of them are rolling out in Europe and Saudi Arabia, and UK.
Just because a car is one second faster than a Dodge doesn't mean it's not worth buying it. That's your problem.
ArcanineKing 2 months ago
@ArcanineKing Uhmm no I would bet insurance is thru the roof. Sorry if someone gave me a gumpert I would take it then sell it I can do more with 300k to other cars and still have money left. At least the viper acr is a car by dodge thats production, thats not made by an independent manufactured whos frankensteined parts together from other companies. So the viper acr is the fastest producton car around nurenburgring. Got to have respect where its due my friend.
68chargerlover 2 months ago
@68chargerlover You don't know shit about insurance, as clearly any sports car with two doors and more than 500 horsepower can mean high insurance costs, and that includes the Dodge Viper ACR. Same for the Gumpert, same for anything else.
And you're telling me that a Gumpert, an independent car manufacturer, with an Audi V8 engine, is gonna cost a lot? That's nonsense you're talking right there. And Gumpert and the other cars above the ACR are production cars!
Maybe they're right, you're nuts.
ArcanineKing 2 months ago
@ArcanineKing Get real a car that costs 300 to 400 grand is going to have exstreamly high insurance dumbass. And yes a car that costs 300 to 400 grand is going to have higher insurance then a car thats 100k. And Gumpert is an independent car company that has a car from other companies. The Viper is all Dodge, the engine isnt from ford or lamborgini. So the viper acr is the fastest production car around nurenburgring thats not a frankenstein car. Your and idiot !!!
68chargerlover 2 months ago
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@CaliforniaBear707 Gumpert Apollos S > All cars.
ArcanineKing 3 months ago
One thing to say. Name me one race tha lambo has ever won on the pro circuit. Oh yeah thats right they never have cause they dont build race cars.
greghobson 6 months ago
@greghobson They build race cars, and won some titles in GT1 and LeMans.
You're smoking too much bullshit to even read up Lamborghini race history.
ArcanineKing 3 months ago
Seeing as how Chargers are made for strips and not for autocross, I'd say he did pretty damn good!
ACEGAMER120 6 months ago
Mopar or NO CAR
pinapo 6 months ago 11
lambo sucks guys get over it!
derick4767 6 months ago
no cars have hips like this cars
kivase1 6 months ago in playlist MOPARS
i wanna see a drag race!!!
whocares7777777777 6 months ago
take those stupid fucking rims off
xCh34pShOtx 6 months ago
@xCh34pShOtx at leastt he didnt pu 22's lol those rim are nice put too big... in my opinion but it still looks nice.
derick4767 6 months ago
Lol looks like a blast but a heck of a short track.
setho1993sso 7 months ago
Wish the video was clearer that is pure unadulterated Beauty!!!!!!
curtknows101 7 months ago
At 2:14 charger got 18.161
At 5:16 charger time - 18.298
You can see the lambos time at 2:54 -18.539
You can see it again at 5:05 - 18.987
A 40 year old "road boat" just contested against a modern day supercar.
Vaicurious 7 months ago
@Vaicurious I can see the '40 year old road boat' has two big advantages:
One, I can see it has a race-spec chassis built into the Charger, which means the guy that owns it built his Charger, and added track tires and race-spec suspension, and maybe just a tad of tuning and upgrade with a different GM engine. Dude might have shaved off a ton of weight for weight distribution and balanced handling.
On the other hand, the Lambo looks pretty much stock.
ArcanineKing 3 months ago
@ArcanineKing
What are you talking about? The car clearly still has back seats and a full interior. No way is that race spec. sure obviously he had added some things to the chassis but does adding a CAI or Pulleys turn your car into a drag machine? Oh and Dodge is Mopar- not GM.
"Lambo looks pretty much stock"
people who can afford Lamborghini's hardly ever leave them stock, but even then it's a GODDAMNED LAMBORGHINI. The price difference tells all.
Vaicurious 3 months ago
A lot of people don't even realize that this car was made a legend already in 68 because of Steve McQueen!
"BULLITT"!!!!!!!!
elvisfan22 7 months ago
@elvisfan22 Classic movie! i fell in love with the '68 Charger after that!
nWo85 7 months ago
@nWo85 Yea, it's funny how much "The Charger" received so much glory from cinema. I mean, even the Producers of "Dukes of Hazard" said that the car received more fan mail than the actors, literally. LOL!
What was the Charger in "Dukes of Hazard"??? 68, 70???
elvisfan22 7 months ago
@elvisfan22 It was a '68
nWo85 7 months ago
@elvisfan22 It would have been a blast to ride in daisy or the general lee or ride in daisy in the general lee, both very nice rides lol. And the general lee was a combination of some 68s but most were 69s
68chargerlover 7 months ago
@elvisfan22 um...no. The Bullitt was a mustang fastback.
goddimmus 6 months ago
@goddimmus um. yes. The car "chasing" the bullitt was a charger. :)
elvisfan22 6 months ago
i wonder why they never show the times of the LAMBO...?
slbcuerpoyalma 7 months ago
Americans can not compete with Europe in cars that are slower cars and machinery and the mind, etc.
ipic32 7 months ago
@ipic32 we are the richest country we have the ford GT, viper, corvette, ultimate aero, MOPAR, and kickass food, i think you just got owned euro bitch
wsgchopper 7 months ago
Put'em on a straight road and see which will blow your ears off... Fuck the lambo. Charger rules
brunoilhado 7 months ago
id still want a charger rather than a lamborgini.
AlexAfferMetallica 8 months ago
Cars used to be built for teenagers, built for power and fun. They were built to be fast, but not all out speed. You're putting a car that is over 40 years old against a modern multimillion dollar car that is built for the rich who want speed. People shouldnt expect the charger to win (even though i wish it did :p) the charger has history, the lamborghini doesn't. a race like this isn't comparing apples to apples. but, in my opinion, the dodge charger is the sickest car that has ever existed.
Bduke1000 8 months ago 3
thats a big ass car for autocross im impressed love the charger btw nice car
TJDeadkid 8 months ago
Let's see a lambo drive through hazzard county
2xchrome 8 months ago 38
I'd rather push that Charger than drive a Dullardo any day.
PapaWolfman 8 months ago
that lambo sounds like shit compared you your charger
TheHardRockGod 8 months ago
@TheHardRockGod it doesn´t sound..... it is.
ricardoeldelmustang 8 months ago
All cars are good, just make sure it goes and doesn't fall into parts...
SaabyHun97 9 months ago
how fast did lambo do...
Dlowz 9 months ago
lambos suck
sponge13973 9 months ago
I feel as if I must comment to clear others tunnel vision. There really couldn't have been a more diverse race if you tried. 2 complete seperate classes of cars here. Old school vs. New school. A muscle car vs. an exotic. The Charger was NEVER built for this type of racing, yet look what he accomplished! But, to say that Lambo's "suck"? Really?! And, the Lambo's were built for this. Go watch something from Underground Racing. Change your mind quickly. Gorgeous Charger btw.
stnspn44 10 months ago
im guessing the lambo won?
xXdylanjwXx 10 months ago
Who needs a Hemi? Those engines are old technology,and people I've met with them always talk of the problems with getting high enough octane fuel to make them run well.A well built 383 or 440,or even a 340 for that matter is an excellent engine. The big block chryslers are great engines,capable of real power,far better than any chevy,and a nicely built one is so smooth and torquey! The charger here isn't all that heavy,either,a little suspension work and it can handle better than you'd think.
Oldbmwr100rs 10 months ago
@Oldbmwr100rs you do realize every engine nowadays is a HEMI design? the first hemi engines to make a name for themself were the chrysler 392 and 426. but nowadays, where every engine is a HEMI design, chrysler continues to call their big engines HEMI's because they make alotta power. so when people say "wow its a HEMI" its pretty much like saying something as dumb as "wow it has fuel injection!"
need2speed94 10 months ago
@need2speed94 I LOL'd at that! Look up the design of the hemispeherical combustion chamber,and tell me again about it. Most engines these days are 4 valve,and unless they're very deeply radial it's not a hemi. Look up info about Westlake engineering,they created the "Pentroof" chamber and made 4 valve engines work right back before WW2.As it is today,Chrysler is stretching it a bit to claim their "Hemi" actually is a real hemi design.
Oldbmwr100rs 10 months ago
@Oldbmwr100rs there are plenty of cars out there with the hemi design, im not sure what you drive (maybe a prius), yes there are cars out there that are 4v, dont get me wrong. my cobra is a 4v. id much prefer a pushrod 2v but its still a beast. and i dont think they should even call them HEMI's anymore, there are shitty compact 4 cyl european cars out there that have hemispherical heads, but they dont emphasize on it being a hemi. but, there are plenty of engines out there that are 2v as well.
need2speed94 10 months ago
@need2speed94 Ok,just to let you know,I'm a journeyman mechanic by trade,also a licensed aircraft mechanic as well as master certified BMW technician,so I'm not some net dweeb out to start trouble. I know what I'm talking about. The word"Hemi" is a powerful marketing gimmick for car sales,and even though a lot of people use it,it's used pretty liberally. And no,I don't drive a prius,my two are a '03 BMW 530 and a Suzuki GRAND Vitara with a V6. I also have 5 bikes,2 are true hemis.
Oldbmwr100rs 10 months ago
@Oldbmwr100rs well im not out to start trouble either. i do want to know why you chose to go with BMW. i think they're german engineerings downfall. my mom has owned two BMWs, an 04 525i and now she owns an 09 535i. being expensive "luxury" cars, i had thought that they would be more reliable than they have been. dont get me wrong, every car has its issues but for a car that exceeds 40,000-50,000$ i think it should require low maintenance. this is not the case and in fact there were many recalls
need2speed94 10 months ago
@need2speed94 Yeah, I seem to gravitate toward german cares for some reason,and the '03 was the last year of what's considered about the best of the 5 series,it's been a great car,honestly.The '04 was the first year of a new model, and those were a nightmare for bmw at the time.I don't think I'll buy any modern BMW's after this though,not after working for them. I had an '04 Mustang GT that I loved,but the insurance just kept going up each year,even though my record was clean.
Oldbmwr100rs 10 months ago
@Oldbmwr100rs i like the look of the pre 05' BMW's though. the years after that just look a bit too girly.
need2speed94 10 months ago
Search for Pure Vision Charger 515GTB, nothing more to say.
Seventaiji 10 months ago
This is the car from Bull Run isn't it?
71DatsunZ 10 months ago
I am a GM fan.
I will say tho.. I have love for the older, classic American cars from Ford Dodge and of course GM.
in this case, this Charger is sick ... lookin like it handles quite well. I love the look of this car too .. beautiful ...
gjg50 11 months ago
ahahah american cars dont do turns
GIANTreed1 11 months ago
wow thats a really really short course!!!!
AndyRoddick969 11 months ago
Awesome. If there is one thing I want to do before I die...It's own a 68/69 Charger R/T.
levey 11 months ago
@levey nothin like it..........never gets old
scatpack68 11 months ago
Pretty damn good.Your comparing A car that has 60 technology vs a 2010 mutlimillion race technolgy, and still...the Dodge falls 3 seconds short of the lambo.
jdog942 11 months ago
If I had my choice I'd take the Lambo,then sell it and buy a fully restored 1967 Charger,a fully restored 1969 Charger and a fully restored 1971 Charger !
scott6305 11 months ago 5
It's like sending a gun to a slapping contest.
rompn4x 11 months ago
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lambo may be faster, but the charger looks and sounds better doing the deed
blingblade 11 months ago
lambo may be faster, but the charger looks better doing the deed
blingblade 11 months ago
Results like this can also be found in areas like the Optima Ultimate Street Car challenge. Not only do the exotic imports get trounced, but even new American cars lose out to the classics. Just goes to show that there's not a damn thing inherently wong with cars like this. They were awesome when they came out, and awesome again 40+ years later with a little upgrading and you still pay less than those shmucks did and for a better car, too.
Psychlonic 1 year ago
Listen to that monster... Best looking Mopar IMO. Gallardo's are neat and all, but nothing close to this beast.
TRDSC 1 year ago
Cars will never be the same.. >_>
xCh34pShOtx 1 year ago
rims are kinda gay but nice car!
roy93936 1 year ago
muscel beats import every time
chieln9 1 year ago 2
@chieln9 lamborghini's are exotic not import
Quentonwall 1 year ago
@Quentonwall you import it to america you dumb piece of shit
w32x 1 year ago
@w32x its still an exotic if you import it or not
Quentonwall 1 year ago
both beautiful cars. Any serious car lover would love to have both.
groseron 1 year ago
funny how no one cares about the lambo and they're all looking at the charger hehe... I want one so badly dammit!
Lebaron1987 1 year ago 3
both cars sounds awesome!
TorcoOil 1 year ago
"Autocross is all about finesse and handling..." Screw that, I'll power through it!! Good stuff :)
drolsonator 1 year ago 2
nice Charger bro
adokenk3nnbasil 1 year ago
ahahahahaahhaha, so noce cars, ahhhhhh,
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but, euros do make good ones
TheEdbassmasterfan 1 year ago
@TheEdbassmasterfan You're dumb.
Triple88a 1 year ago
fun = charger
style = lambo
3xp3rtguitar 1 year ago
@3xp3rtguitar
fun and style = Charger
my rich daddy bought it for me = lambo
KillerRoboViking 1 year ago 48
@KillerRoboViking ahaha thats a little better lol
3xp3rtguitar 1 year ago
@KillerRoboViking Lambo more fun and pussy
blmthug 4 months ago
Race begins at 1:45
sdmitch16 1 year ago 2
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dodge sukz dick
LetsWangChung 1 year ago
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@LetsWangChung you suck my dick
motocrossowy 1 year ago
@LetsWangChung no but u, ur mom and ur dad does
Rockerlilleblk 1 year ago
@LetsWangChung really, Then where does that leave nissan. because it clearly lost.end of story
ruthlessone3k 1 year ago
Italian exotics vs American muscle, wonderful match in an autocross race, even im surprised how that thing handles well.
Curt705900 1 year ago
isnt this the charger from cannonball run?
idontlikecops1 1 year ago
Looks like it handles great for the size of the car.
him89 1 year ago
okay so im a chev fan but fuck i love these 68-69 chargers. like if your one of the people who liked chargers before this fast and the furious craze
TheHeroSam 1 year ago
only a new yorker can walk a lambo in a charger
bob12347849 1 year ago
Im an import lover, ok, but cars of such beauty can never, NEVER be overlooked! Chargers, Challengers, Roadrunners, Chevelles, Camaros, GTO's, all of them, beautiful machines
LynxOGrady 1 year ago 86
@LynxOGrady I agree technically they might be shit but they were badass then, badass now and will be badass forever more.
Konformation07 1 year ago
bestão
jonas3753 1 year ago
u should have done a 1/4 race that would be beast
TheUV123 1 year ago
Who cares how much gas it burns....it's a good old American muscle car. I have a '68 Charger and will drive it till the damn wheels fall off...............There is plenty of fossil fuel/coal left in the ground........The US alone has more coal than Saudi has oil !
ChargerRTguy 1 year ago
@ChargerRTguy I agree! drive em like you stole em ! We are finishing my 68 prostreet charger, its my therapy after a long grueling day at work.
68chargerlover 1 year ago
i thought mr.angry was a daytona? or at least it had a nose and wing and was flat black last time i saw it?
carfreak59750 1 year ago
@carfreak59750 no..
mcw731 1 year ago
@mcw731 hmmm thats weird. somebody in hemmings muscle machines had a black daytona with a mr angry plate on it
carfreak59750 1 year ago
@carfreak59750 That would be Angrier. Mr. Angry II
Tenolin 1 year ago
@Tenolin oh yep that was it
carfreak59750 1 year ago
@carfreak59750 Two seperate cars. But yes Mr. Angry owns both
DodgeChallenger426 1 year ago
that shit wasted like 4 liters of gas jsut while he was talkn bout the race..dam gas guzzler..
djastro50 1 year ago
@djastro50 lemme guess you drive a little plastic car or a hybrid POS?
threetwentynine 1 year ago
What a car!! One of my all time fave's!! The sound of a proper car, not this gay shit you get "cruising" round macdonalds! If one was available in UK I'd get it! Rock the car dude \m/
iLostAgenToday 1 year ago
i love this car charger is wowowowowow
demondevid 1 year ago
So were was a Lamborghini in this video and were was some competition ?
artur6912 1 year ago
Classic, cost less, room for four, and will only go up in value, great choice and not a bad competition
TequilaKG 1 year ago
xD 3:20 Mr Angry
m1B3lL 1 year ago
Lamborweenie
ThatOPPofficer 1 year ago
Like the random chinook cameo.
redmunkee 1 year ago
@Proxima, thats no an opinion thats FACT! only two i'd want more are the 70 challenger, or a 70 Cuda.
Valmar123456789 1 year ago
lambos suck. mopar or no car
swalte6325 1 year ago 77
@swalte6325 lambo's suck ha whatever, u SUCK!!!!
tuugfo 1 year ago
@swalte6325 MOPAR OR NO CAR BROTHER!
him89 1 year ago
@swalte6325 well if you think of it. most muscle cars especially classics like these are usually used on the strip. Lambo's however are more for the track. Lambo's are built to do these kinds of events. with stiff suspension, and low center of gravity and balance. Classic muscle cars dont have all that
Curt705900 1 year ago
@Curt705900 you can always put stiff suspention an lower the mucle car to make it equal to any exotic
generalleegoku 1 year ago
@generalleegoku I admit, thats true, i mean in autocross its all about handling pretty much.
Curt705900 1 year ago
@Curt705900 there is only 2 60's muscle cars that you wouldnt have to do anything 2. the corvette stingray and the shelby cobra. i dont even know if they should even be considered muscle cars. they r more like sports cars
generalleegoku 1 year ago
@generalleegoku One of the last autocrosses i went to i had a Shelby Cobra in my line up and i was impressed of how good it handled, guess they are more for the handling kind of races, but i havent witnessed a stingray yet so im curious to see how good it handles (if it was just about stock)
Curt705900 1 year ago
@swalte6325
Lambos in general have more power, better weight distribution, & they're lighter amongst other things. I've got nothing against mopar, but I'm not going to sell my Countach in favor of American muscle anytime soon. Nice to see some muscle in the autocross arena though.
DrkRonin03 11 months ago
@DrkRonin03 more power lol wow your on drugs, sorry a built hemi would spank the lambo, some factory hemis put out over 700hp factory. You keep your overpriced status symbol car, the lambo is very impractical and only used to show off the size of your wallet
68chargerlover 10 months ago
@68chargerlover
I will ask you kindly to leave my drug addiction out of this.
A "built" Lambo would spank a "built" hemi. You're not comparing apples to apples. A Lamborghini also has many uses other than showing the size of your wallet. You can use it to drive to the store, you can use it as a table to set things on, you could use it as a fancy mechanism to convert petrol into co2 (AKA a doomsday machine), or you could even wear it as a hat if your bone structure allows it.
DrkRonin03 10 months ago
@DrkRonin03 for one uhmm no a built hemi has been known to put out 8000hp, no lambo built or not has come close to that or getting 4s in the 1/4 mile. You cant go to the store, most wont leave their big money car in a parking lot. Insurance is out of this world, repairs are nuts, it has no real trunk and you can only take one other person with you. And if your skull is that thick that you can wear it as a hat you have more problems then you know.
68chargerlover 10 months ago
@68chargerlover
8000hp? You're talking about nitromethane-fueled dragsters. At that point you can't even call it a hemi. You can build anything if you have the time & money. I've seen 1500hp PETROL Lamborghinis built. Oh, and it's an AWD layout which is better for drag racing than FR, that's how the 400hp GTR can beat a 630hp Super Snake on a drag strip. More grip means a better launch, & a bigger engine means more potential power.
DrkRonin03 10 months ago
@DrkRonin03 yes and even with nitro the lambo couldnt reach those numbers, and yes you can call it a hemi, look it up and learn of why its a hemi. 1500 is nothing. Sorry the hemi is the king, the lambo is a status symbol car and a joke for rich snobs to drive.
68chargerlover 10 months ago
@68chargerlover Hey, I love good old american V8, but don't look down on Lamborghinis, and even more when you're talking about a Lamborghini Countach!
What are you arguing? The Lambo, a status symbol car? Rolls-Royce is a status symbol car, not Lamborghini.
Anyways this guy is right : you can't compare a Charger to a Countach. V8 versus V12? You'll never get the same crank, torque, nor the same horsepower from a NA v8 than from a NA v12. You'll just end up being less powerful. Deal with it!
Seventaiji 10 months ago
@Seventaiji Any car costing more than $80,000 when bought is a Status Symble. I also find it interesting that you compare engines. Size wise, American V8's have always been Larger, and knowing this, the standard Lambo V12 is a 6 Litre Engine. This makes a 70's firebird engine larger, at 6.6Litres or 402Ci. Also, probably the most Customized US Engine, the Ford 289, can be improved to the point of making 800 HP without doubling its displacement.
TheFoundersWereRight 10 months ago
@Seventaiji The one Area the Lambo has an advantage in these races is that it is an ALL WHEEL Drive vehicle. This means it handles a bit better around the corners. Don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against them. I like Classic Cars, including the Lamborghini Miura. However, My favorites are always American Cars, with the 1965 Shelby Daytona Coupe at the top of the list. It was a 200 mile per hour capable Car in 65. Funny, Lambos haven't improved much over that with their superiority. Sorry.
TheFoundersWereRight 10 months ago
@68chargerlover And yeah, there are hellish V8 that can make more than 2000hp with nitromethane fuel! Yeah you'll always find the same for a V12 built under the same conditions, but with more horsepower and even more torque. Yeah it is physical, NO I'm not an "import" pro guy, I'm just a lover of exceptionnal cars.
And as I could sell a house to buy a Charger, I'd do the same for a Countach. We are talking about jewelry of the car industry.
Seventaiji 10 months ago
@68chargerlover
I know why they call it a hemi. I'm saying that once it has been stripped, fabricated, & modified past a certain point it's a hemi in name only. Also, a nitro-methane Lamborghini should in theory produce more power. the hemi isn't a magical engine that somehow produces an infinite amount of power. Bigger engine = more power if everything else is equal. Everything else includes: compression ratio, volumetric efficiency of the intake & exhaust, low reciprocating mass, etc.
DrkRonin03 10 months ago
@DrkRonin03 uhmmm no even stripped and modded it still has the valves in the same location and the same set up. And I've never seen a lambo built even close to the same potental as the hemi. The lambo is just a status symbol car.
68chargerlover 10 months ago
@68chargerlover
That's because you can't use 8000hp in Le Mans. It's an endurance race, not a >5 second long straight line sprint. Different car, different purpose. I'm done talking about this. Have fun in your magical car that is somehow better than everything else for no apparent reason.
DrkRonin03 10 months ago
@DrkRonin03 better dollar for dollar then your overpriced status symbol car and you know it
68chargerlover 10 months ago
the army herd something threatening and had to investigate
klridener 1 year ago
C'mon this car is how many years older & how many tons heavier than that Eurotrash? Your car is awesome & your driving was great.
AJennings67 1 year ago