There is no "wrong form". Wing Chun is a system made from principals. Leung Ting or William Cheung or whichever master doesnt have a "wrong form",whoever told you that is lying to you. There are only "different" forms,or different principals,there are no wrong ones. Wing Chun is a system, you learn the form,you even change it to suit you in time and then you become the "system" You are free from forms,you become Wing Chun.
Yip Man Wing Chun has 2 approaches to Wing Chun. The pure centerline and triangular theory. Therefore there are 2 types of practices from his lineage. To know more, read the blog on my profile. Btw, Wang Kiu looks really good.
I have a question to professionals. I live in Holland where the only official wing chun assocation is in Wong Kiu lineage. Now my question is; how do I know whether I'm really learning an effective form/style of this martial art that will proof to be worthy? It is very difficult. I hear that many lineages, like Leung Ting and Cheung Cheuk Hing, taught a wrong form.
It's difficult to tell. The only proof will be your own experience when you learned with different lineages. Anyone can tell you they are the best. We don't believe in the best. We just teach what we have been taught. No more no less.
If you want to know how effective a lineage is, just drop by to see/chat a little with the people.
You are welcome to the Wang Kiu Foundation any time. But feel free to visit all Wing Chun schools. They all should welcome you with this question!
@wangkiu Hello and thank you and anyone associated with these videos. Real information is here on these videos. Also if you can may you please tell me anything about a sigong named woo fai ching who studied under leung sheung lineage please this would really help thank you again!
@FearThisChannel - Good Wing Chun always had good rooting skills. Rush into the opponent when doing chi sau. If he/she falls back from your rushing in, they are not good. If he/she neutralizes you on the spot without moving an inch or bending back even a little bit, then they are good. That is how you tell. Try this on MOST Leung Ting WT people and see what I mean. They will almost always fall back and rely on their flashy fast hands...which won't save them from falling or getting knocked out.
Wing Chun is a fighting system based on CONCEPTS and NOT forms. The forms of different schools are not right or wrong. As long as the CONCEPTS are taught properly then the lineage is unimportant. Master Wong Kiu is a highly respected master of Wing Chun who learnt DIRECTLY from Ip Man and his school is very respectable - and although different from my lineage this video shows me he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.
@FearThisChannel Now my question is; how do I know whether I'm really learning an effective form/style of this martial art that will proof to be worthy?
What is the fighting / real life application history of the teacher? OR Have you seen them use it in combat (ring or real life)? That will tell you how effective it is.
Hey , als je een goede wing chun school zoekt zou je al naar belgie moeten komen =P
Voor zover ik weet toch , mijn meester , Sifu Bob heeft getraint onder de school van Viktor khan , naar wat ik heb gehoord is dat viktor nog les gaf onder Ip man toen Bruce lee nog naar de zelfde school ging , ik hoor mijn meester ook vaak zeggen dat er veel meesters liegen over hun afkomst van training.persoonlijk vind ik zijn wing chun de beste.
@dudefrombelgium Tja, als ik nou nog in Zeeuws-Vlaanderen woonde, dan zou ik misschien naar België komen LOL maar nu woon ik in de randstad, dus dat is geen optie
@FearThisChannel Go out and fight people is the short answer. Barring that, maybe you could cross hands with other martial artists. The forms themselves are nonsense anyway. The forms dont have to be pretty, they are designed to teach you about your body and your body's responses. Beyond that, a good teacher would have his own ideas concerning what the applications are. And in my experience, no two teachers have the same applications.
I've been scouring the internet for the first generation of Yip Man's students (I'm WSL line under Sifu Gary Lam). The seminar that he gave with SiPak Hawkins Cheung was great..found it on googlesearch. Please post more if there are any available. He was so humble and private, yet a great adventurer and traveller. A kindred Spirit! R.I.P.
There is no "wrong form". Wing Chun is a system made from principals. Leung Ting or William Cheung or whichever master doesnt have a "wrong form",whoever told you that is lying to you. There are only "different" forms,or different principals,there are no wrong ones. Wing Chun is a system, you learn the form,you even change it to suit you in time and then you become the "system" You are free from forms,you become Wing Chun.
Svemocn1Vidar 1 month ago
Yip Man Wing Chun has 2 approaches to Wing Chun. The pure centerline and triangular theory. Therefore there are 2 types of practices from his lineage. To know more, read the blog on my profile. Btw, Wang Kiu looks really good.
TheCloudXTraining 6 months ago
@waaza0
No,
We are not the Association. They follow the Wong Shun Leung lineage.
We are from the Wang Kiu Foundation, which Sifu Wang Kiu founded himself in 2006.
wangkiu 1 year ago
Nice video, thanks for uploading!
tsi2568 1 year ago
I have a question to professionals. I live in Holland where the only official wing chun assocation is in Wong Kiu lineage. Now my question is; how do I know whether I'm really learning an effective form/style of this martial art that will proof to be worthy? It is very difficult. I hear that many lineages, like Leung Ting and Cheung Cheuk Hing, taught a wrong form.
Anybody, tell me. Please.
FearThisChannel 1 year ago
Hello,
It's difficult to tell. The only proof will be your own experience when you learned with different lineages. Anyone can tell you they are the best. We don't believe in the best. We just teach what we have been taught. No more no less.
If you want to know how effective a lineage is, just drop by to see/chat a little with the people.
You are welcome to the Wang Kiu Foundation any time. But feel free to visit all Wing Chun schools. They all should welcome you with this question!
WKF
wangkiu 1 year ago
@wangkiu Hello and thank you and anyone associated with these videos. Real information is here on these videos. Also if you can may you please tell me anything about a sigong named woo fai ching who studied under leung sheung lineage please this would really help thank you again!
MrLexTalionis1 1 year ago
@FearThisChannel - Good Wing Chun always had good rooting skills. Rush into the opponent when doing chi sau. If he/she falls back from your rushing in, they are not good. If he/she neutralizes you on the spot without moving an inch or bending back even a little bit, then they are good. That is how you tell. Try this on MOST Leung Ting WT people and see what I mean. They will almost always fall back and rely on their flashy fast hands...which won't save them from falling or getting knocked out.
matreyia 1 year ago
@FearThisChannel
Wing Chun is a fighting system based on CONCEPTS and NOT forms. The forms of different schools are not right or wrong. As long as the CONCEPTS are taught properly then the lineage is unimportant. Master Wong Kiu is a highly respected master of Wing Chun who learnt DIRECTLY from Ip Man and his school is very respectable - and although different from my lineage this video shows me he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.
scofubasstt 9 months ago
@FearThisChannel Now my question is; how do I know whether I'm really learning an effective form/style of this martial art that will proof to be worthy?
What is the fighting / real life application history of the teacher? OR Have you seen them use it in combat (ring or real life)? That will tell you how effective it is.
sean022 7 months ago
@FearThisChannel
Hey , als je een goede wing chun school zoekt zou je al naar belgie moeten komen =P
Voor zover ik weet toch , mijn meester , Sifu Bob heeft getraint onder de school van Viktor khan , naar wat ik heb gehoord is dat viktor nog les gaf onder Ip man toen Bruce lee nog naar de zelfde school ging , ik hoor mijn meester ook vaak zeggen dat er veel meesters liegen over hun afkomst van training.persoonlijk vind ik zijn wing chun de beste.
dudefrombelgium 1 month ago
@dudefrombelgium Tja, als ik nou nog in Zeeuws-Vlaanderen woonde, dan zou ik misschien naar België komen LOL maar nu woon ik in de randstad, dus dat is geen optie
FearThisChannel 1 month ago
@FearThisChannel Go out and fight people is the short answer. Barring that, maybe you could cross hands with other martial artists. The forms themselves are nonsense anyway. The forms dont have to be pretty, they are designed to teach you about your body and your body's responses. Beyond that, a good teacher would have his own ideas concerning what the applications are. And in my experience, no two teachers have the same applications.
trubblman 3 weeks ago
I'd luv to Wang Kui
msclitoria 1 year ago
Nice. Want to see what I have learned in the Wang Kiu lineage? Go to my videos.
eternalspring247 1 year ago
thanks for posting
kwansao 2 years ago
Respects RIP
shengchenfan 2 years ago
he speaks very softly and elegantly...I would love to see more videos by him. he will be missed. rip.
industrial6824 2 years ago
Aww, sigh..another great one will be missed.
I've been scouring the internet for the first generation of Yip Man's students (I'm WSL line under Sifu Gary Lam). The seminar that he gave with SiPak Hawkins Cheung was great..found it on googlesearch. Please post more if there are any available. He was so humble and private, yet a great adventurer and traveller. A kindred Spirit! R.I.P.
smkonwater23 2 years ago
whats the songs name ?
drndos 2 years ago
@drndos ... silent moon - jia peng
hseckink 1 year ago
Sifu Wang Kiu died on 13.05.09 at his home in the Nederlands. May he rest in Peace.
Polarstern69 2 years ago
Excellent. Always a joy to see Wing Chun performed properly. Respect to Sifu Wang Kiu.
gragrn 2 years ago
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man thats soooooooooooooooo nice 5/5*
Armendos07 3 years ago
Thank you very much for uploading it :)
very nice
can you pls let me know what is this great music ?
hseckink 3 years ago
Music is from Jia Peng Fang
wangkiu 3 years ago
is Sifu Wang Kiu still currently teaching? If so , where?
skyphoenix 3 years ago
Sifu Wang Kiu is not actively teaching anymore because of his age (85 right now), though he does give private lessons occasionaly.
wangkiu 3 years ago
Sifu Wang Kiu died last week, 13 May 2009. He lived in The Hague / The Netherlands.
wingchun001 2 years ago
i express my condolences. Another pillar of the Wingchun system gone.
skyphoenix 2 years ago
When and where was this???
upgrademan12 3 years ago
Hi,
This was in Canada at the University of British Columbia, 1982. The seminar is about the Mok Yan Chong (Dummy Works).
wangkiu 3 years ago
I salute the great Wang Kiu Sifu!
But ... just where can I get this song?
I love it! Can someone please tell me?
narayanr 3 years ago
Just mail us and we'll send you the song.
wangkiu 3 years ago
Always great to see Sifu Wang Kiu in action.
DiamonDi1 3 years ago
A few techniques showed by Sifu Wang Kiu explaining the forward and attacking style of wing chun.
wingchun001 3 years ago
Clear explanation of a small practice from Sifu Wang Kiu.
donchichi24 3 years ago