Oh fuck when i played in Maniac Mithos used indignation judgement...he kill instantly all my team: Lloyd (myself) Zelos (my younger brother) and Sheena(my cousin)....the only survivor was Raine and because she was far away healing and boost my stats! lol
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doing the 10 exp game hes almost dead i see him casting a spell and i rush in to deal the final blow he puts his hand up and a giant sword comes down on all my characters mithos: SCATTER! me: FUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!
Final Boss theme? I'm pretty sure Yggdrasil has two forms and this is the music for the first form, so technically this isn't the final boss theme, only part 1 if anything. =P
hey man this is just Yggdrasil's theme, "It Can Waver and Fight." it also plays during Mithos's first form in the last battle. The real final boss theme is "Final Destination."
@StayFreebr007 considering that Mithos's final form was not even half as hard a fight as his first form, this music will always be the real final boss theme for me!
@pauldiamont95 That would be a normal boss, followed by my favorite kind of boss, and then followed by the kind of boss I hate the most. My favorite bosses are the ones which even if you grind and have the best equipment available, you could still lose at any time but it's possible to win, because they are intense. My worst bosses are the ones that you can't beat, especially the first time when you can't tell the difference and you end up using a whole bunch of useful items trying to beat them.
@raigekimaru Interesting idea, but unless you hadn't already played Tales of Symphonia, you'd pretty much already know what was going to happen, and it would place constraints on the story that the Tales writers could tell, which would be a major problem for a series that focuses on telling excellent stories.
@raigekimaru I'd much prefer a sequel when they're adults just because I like afterstory but damn... Any Symphonia game would be good. Some people say the second game isn't as good but I loved it too. The co-op was much better there because camera angles always kept all players on the screen. In the first game it only followed Llyod/Player1 which made it totally boring for others.
@e2slayer Hey, DotNW didn't really suck that bad. Don't understand the hate for that game really, I liked it, and I played the origonal first. Also, Symphonia is a prequel in itself. It's a prequel for the first tales of game, Tales of Phantasia.
@raigekimaru I would love that so much. It would be a sad ending too (because we know Mithos basically eventually goes nuts), which would be interesting given how happy-happy jRPGs can be sometimes.
@raigekimaru been toying with the idea of making a prequel for a while, albeit rith RPG maker (quite crude) using the sprite sets from narikiri dungeon 3. i'm a little stuck on a storyline though, so i'm willing to collaberate with anyone
@raigekimaru there is one, its called tales of phantasia, everyone seems to think it takes place 4000 years AFTER symphonia though, its actually whats going on during the ancient war
Because there's a giant tree in Phantasia. You know, just like the one at the end of ToS. And it's named Yggdrasil. I'd say that's pretty compelling evidence that ToS is the prequel.
@ChaosXDarkness Yggdrasil is the world tree that unites the many worlds of the universe in Norse (Viking/ Scandinavian) Mythology. It has nothing to do with Catholicism for any sect of Christianity.
The Church of Martel has more in common with the Greek Orthodox Church when you analyse the architecture of the churches in the game. The Pope is lifted from the Catholic Church, but aside from that, the similarities between Christianity and the Church of Martel are superficial at best.
@meepfeet Well... 4000-ish, The War was 4000 years ago... He wasn't born and then instantly end the war... His physical appearance is only 14. The wiki lists his age as 4000+ so I just guess around 4014 maybe?
the final boss is a joke! Like in most RPG's the hardest boss can be found in some form of battle arena. In this game, the hardest battle is defo the one against those four guys in Meltokio Battle Arena
@KuriousJoe1 lol yeah you may get really frustrated remember unison attacks are your friend i personally didnt realize how good they were until i'd died against him like 6 times i think i beat him when i was about level 70 but good luck
I'm surprised no one commented on the fact that Mithos Yggdrasil was such an interesting Villain because he wasn't necessarily evil, He was the Hero of the Karlan War. He simply wanted to end discrimination. He just went about it differently.
Also, the fact that he appears to you first as a seemingly older, more mature angel, you assume he is mature in his desires. Instead, the fact that he is still a child almost creates pity. a little boy afraid to lose his sister. Interesting villain indeed.
In my opinion, he is the foil to Lloyd. They want the exact same thing, and Lloyd's striving to become exactly like him. Lloyd and Mithos were both optimistic people trying to save the world, Lloyd obtained Origin's sword, Lloyd obtained the eight summon spirits, Lloyd travelled on almost the same identical quest as Mithos originally. And at the end of the game, they both achieved god-like status.
@chibisuke580 Everyone always strives in RPGs to become the god-like character who can control everything and save the world. Someone has already achieved that, and realized the only way to save the world is to ruin it completely. That really hits home.
@chibisuke580 I don't consider Mithos Yggdrassil a villain at all. Why? Because a villain is an opposing uncaring monster, an antihero, someone whose motivations you can't understand, who does things you can't even begin to relate to. The Joker, Pyramid Head, HAL, these are villains. Mithos Yggdrassil is the exact opposite. He is a hero who everyone understands, everyone relates to, who shows his true emotional side and makes you want to save him rather than destroy him at the end.
@G102Y5568 Damn, well said indeed. I gotta say that in a world where intelligence is scarce, you seem to be in quite a surplus. That comment made my day!
@G102Y5568 id have to agree that Mithos didnt start out as a villain, and even at the end may have good motives at his core, however, what he does is pretty villainous; create a race of lifeless beings, perpetuatre a cycle of destruction, manipulate entire worlds... none of these acts can be called heroic.
@Korraganitar At best, i'd say Mithos is a fallen hero, much in the way that Darth Vader or Lucifer are; beings who started out as great heroes but who, through some flaw or happening fell to become great villains. Mithos is at best simply the antagonist, the players adversary. At worst hes a tragic villain, one who is doing all the wrong things for innocent reasons... one who i can't help but pity. I know i would be a little crazy is i lost my sister too!
@Korraganitar At best, i'd say Mithos is a fallen hero, much in the way that Darth Vader or Lucifer are; beings who started out as great heroes but who, through some flaw or happening fell to become great villains. At best hes just the antagonist, at worst a tragi villain... i still feel sad inside when i beat him and his last word is "Martel..." dammit!
I disagree, Mithos is the ironic picture of the true nature of evil. evil is the result when good intentions are twisted by weakness and suffering. that is why Mithos is represented as a blond haired, blue eyed pretty boy angel with an idealistic temperament. the main difference between Mithos and Lloyd is; Mithos is weak. not physically weak, but emotionally weak. The truth is we probably don't see the whole picture of what shaped Mithos into this twisted mentality.
this weakness should not suggest that I do not pity him, it is just an illustration that the bad guys in real life are not are all tall, dark, bass voiced old men with booming laughs. what Mithos really needs is a hug and someone to say "I love you" or "I accept you" he has no strength because he has no one to understand him or emotionally support him.
PS: to amend my previous point, evil is *usually* caused by twisted good intentions,
@raigekimaru hmmm you certainly have a point there. Indeed another thing that makes Mithos such an interesting protagonist is that he has a very clear weak point. Most villains try to hide their weak points, But Mithos' is in plain sight.
huh...very interesting. I hadn't really thought about the contrast between Lloyd and Mithos in that context before...and it proved to be rather enlightening. Thank you
Lloyd is unable to understand Mithos tho because he has always been strong. "is it a sin to be weak hearted?" "sometimes running away is the only way to save yourself, humans are so arrogant" Mithos is still that little 12 year old boy who never grew up
Come on he's a great villain. Plus you need to have high dialogue skills for that. And He does it to end wars aswell. lus he set up all tha orgaisation.
Bu yes the best way to en the game is by fighting him.
@chibisuke580 You're right, that's what I liked about it. Even though he was the antagonist, the story line does make you have sympathy for him. This tells actually that (at least what I believe) there is no real evil (also not in the real world). Even though people don't have your interests at heart, they all have their own reasons and all try to do the good thing from their point of view. Now at the end of the game you see that Mithos loses track of everything, which makes you able to fight hm
@chibisuke580 THANK YOU! :D one of the most interesting villains of all time in my opinion because his ideals weren't just black and white. you would really have to put yourself in his position to understand why he did the things that he did..
@chibisuke580 Poor Mithos....I hope the gods have mercy on him. Long term sadness can send even the best of heroes down the wrong path....Mithos is one good example. The Spiral King from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is another example.
@chibisuke580 I hate the Yggdrassils, and I hate that Lloyd glorifies them so much, Mithos was a useless shit that used discrimination as an excuse to take countless lives for the sake of the rotting corpse of his idiotic sister and Martel is a failure of warrior that got herself killed the stupidest way she could and then decided to take on the role of a Summon Spirit despite her obvious limitations.
Many half-elves, like Raine and Richter are amazing, it's the Yggdrassils that are garbage.
@chibisuke580 Common misconception. Mithos was evil.
Having a righteous or even morally agreeable reason to take an action, does not stop an action from being evil. Shooting someone in the back of the head is still shooting someone in the back of the head. Some actions can be acknowledged as necessary, but this does not stop them from being evil.
What Mithos wanted to do in Tales of Symphonia was evil. No doubt about it. False salvation is not salvation.
@PimpnCereal Though originally his goal wasn't false salvation. truly evil people are those who in the belief that they're doing right do wrong. Noone can really say what is right or wrong when doing it. example is the 2nd tales game(SPOILER UP AHEAD) in which unifying the two worlds has brought on injustice and destruction. So what Lloyd does isn't that good a deed either, now is it? Iim not saying Mithos was good or anything, just that calling him absolute evil is a bit naïve.
@fiercezero yes yggdrasil/mithos is the final boss sort of a pushover if ur at the right level now if u want a challenge u should look into finding the devil arms and fighting abyssion but i would recommend fightin all the summon spirits first for the exp god i need this game again
ToS is my favorite game ever. I dusted it off a few days ago and started replaying it. I hadn't played it for years and replaying it made me feel again how great that game is. The soundtrack is really one of the greatest video game soundtracks. Love this song, when it plays during the battle, you know that now the shit's going down, you've busted your ass to get here, now it's time to put and end to it all.
I always felt so bad for Mithos. He wasn't driven mad for evil reasons; all he wanted was to see his sister and friends united once more, and to bring equality to the world. He became obsessed with the impossibility of bringing his sister back from the grave and changing the minds of all mortals that he finally gave into psychotic despair. He's one of my favorite video game villains.
YES!!! I love it, its so sexy to me. I tell my party to stop attacking sometimes just to hear him say it, not like me attacking would stop him, Im very under leveled when I do playtrhoughs
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strongerboy 1 day ago
this is my favorite game....
whilem1 2 weeks ago
Man! I've gotta go to play my Symphonia
BrincessKarin 3 weeks ago
Mithos: (in sadistic voice) Bye-Bye.....Judgement! Whole team dies.
yggdrasill709 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos 6
i love this music
DrowingPoolPivot 1 month ago
goddamn the tales music has the best soundtracks ever
android16B 2 months ago
menudo juegazo cojones el mejor de gamecube
xchachex16x 3 months ago
"Feel the pain...Of those inferior beings...As you burn in hell, Kvar!"
Killins100 3 months ago
@Killins100 LOL
Its an obscure reference that ppl who havent played this wont get
bfjdfhu 3 months ago
Oh too bad!Me I kill mithos in 2 times 3 moves!That was a peace of cake!
Light600000 5 months ago
Oh fuck when i played in Maniac Mithos used indignation judgement...he kill instantly all my team: Lloyd (myself) Zelos (my younger brother) and Sheena(my cousin)....the only survivor was Raine and because she was far away healing and boost my stats! lol
DevilSoma 5 months ago
this game was awesome. and tales o.S. 2 was utter garbage!!
zarakisan11 5 months ago 3
Prefer Final Battle of Vesperia :) ( 3rd Form )
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doing the 10 exp game hes almost dead i see him casting a spell and i rush in to deal the final blow he puts his hand up and a giant sword comes down on all my characters mithos: SCATTER! me: FUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!
TheBlueDraenei 6 months ago
thumbs up if you think dawn of the new world isnt as epic as tales of symphonia 1
zornwurm72 6 months ago 3
*first encounter and battle with Yggdrasill"
Me: another boss, another win :)
*End the battle : current time: 00:15:04 sec
" O__O ....... did i win?!
goldensun003 6 months ago
Dats not the final battle theme! D: But its still awesome!
adtndrums 7 months ago
every time i hear this music, i always think " damn that bastard".
saitodono88 7 months ago
DISAPEAR!!!! (>-.-)>#######
GrasBlade 7 months ago
JUDGEMENT!!!
FlameSpyro1 7 months ago
No...i can not loose.......I'm going home, I'm going home with my Sister...
crystaldemy9 7 months ago
i wanna send an email to namco or whoever made this game to make more stories of this game :D
Thumbs up if you wanna do that!!
Funkiichink 8 months ago
Yggdrasill: Why can you not accept the ideal world that I have envisioned?!
Lloyd: How can your world be ideal when you've killed countless innocent people?!
Yggdrasill: Human, don't tell me what's right and wrong!
...The Epicness!!!
ashley1957 8 months ago 3
Great song, but not the final boss theme. ;-)
dobadobadooo 8 months ago
Does anyone know the name of this song please and thank you :)
epictechnichain 9 months ago
@epictechnichain "i can waiver and fight"
gmaster89 9 months ago
@gmaster89 Thanks!
epictechnichain 9 months ago
This isn't the true final boss theme, it's only the first form theme. Second form has different theme
IidoTheFox 9 months ago
Final Boss theme? I'm pretty sure Yggdrasil has two forms and this is the music for the first form, so technically this isn't the final boss theme, only part 1 if anything. =P
AWoodyNeil 9 months ago
My name is Yggdrasil and I will destroy your world
ranccogoko 9 months ago
RETRIBUTION!
... fuck
dropdeadkriss3003 10 months ago 23
Mithos: why you cannot accept the ideal world i have envisioned
Lloyd: how i cannot accept your world when you kill countless inocent people!
Mithos: Human. don't tell me what´s right and wrong!
My fav quote in the game :)
goldensun003 10 months ago 2
Mithos and his sister clicked the dislike button.XD
KillerZoeh 10 months ago
@KillerZoeh Why would Mythos dislike his own epic theme? XD
Archimonde259 10 months ago
@Archimonde259 Think about it, if Mithos KNEW he loses the battle, then he'd have plentyful reason to dislike.
After all, you'd rather not listen to a theme that reminded you how badly you failed at some point in the game.
No matter how epic it is!XD
KillerZoeh 10 months ago
has anyone else noticed how tall Mithos is? no one in that game is that tall (except mabye that first boss when Kratos joined, but he was fat too).
Xenustik 11 months ago
My team 4 OWNING MITHOS:
1.Lloyd (Me)
2.Genis (My Sister)
3.Kratos (My sister's friend)
4. Raine (My sister's friend)
titanking44 11 months ago
he was so much ways of easy
granis1233 11 months ago
love the picture and love the song! Cant wait to play this game! XD
TheJolteonMaster 11 months ago
hey man this is just Yggdrasil's theme, "It Can Waver and Fight." it also plays during Mithos's first form in the last battle. The real final boss theme is "Final Destination."
StayFreebr007 1 year ago
@StayFreebr007 considering that Mithos's final form was not even half as hard a fight as his first form, this music will always be the real final boss theme for me!
Korraganitar 11 months ago
@Korraganitar Barring the first encounter, his SECOND form is the hardest. His third form is a pansy though.
AirshipCanon2 11 months ago
@AirshipCanon2 I was refering to this fight only.... and this fight only has two stages.... so how is what we said different?
Korraganitar 11 months ago
@AirshipCanon2 I was referring to the final fight at the end of the game anyway, so how is what we said different?
Korraganitar 11 months ago
i reached to the toer of salvation and: Me:ok remiel i'm gonna kill you!! later..
Me: you're so weak
kratos: you still think you can defeat me?! later...
Lloyd: time to finish this!!!
yggdrasil: you pathetic being..
Me: wow, yggdrasill, well i'm gonna kick your ass!! "5 sec later"
Me: 0_o holy sh$%!!,............ -_- damn it....
pauldiamont95 1 year ago
@pauldiamont95 That would be a normal boss, followed by my favorite kind of boss, and then followed by the kind of boss I hate the most. My favorite bosses are the ones which even if you grind and have the best equipment available, you could still lose at any time but it's possible to win, because they are intense. My worst bosses are the ones that you can't beat, especially the first time when you can't tell the difference and you end up using a whole bunch of useful items trying to beat them.
immortalfrieza 1 year ago
@immortalfrieza haha yes
pauldiamont95 1 year ago
My dream for a world for my sister and me...~Mithos
mushpangor 1 year ago
I just searched "Tales of Symphonia final boss theme" and the search results never told me its name.
wiseman2131 1 year ago
This one along with Lavos' theme in Chrono Trigger are the best final boss themes ever
EXHellfire 1 year ago
i think he was too easy for a final boss XD i solo'ed him with Lloyd on mania mode without Nebilim
MrCris9696 1 year ago
Goodbye..............................Mithos
movinfoward 1 year ago
@Scoodlz "How can your world be ideal when you have killed countless innocent people?"
TailsGt1 1 year ago 28
Mithos: My sister means everything to me. None of you understands how I feel.
Lloyd: You're the one that doesn't understand! Ha, strike, swords rain, tiger rage, raging beast!
Mithos: Pathetic, judgement!
autricio 1 year ago
This is the most epic songs of all time!!!!!
CmdrRipley 1 year ago
There's nothing anyone can do...!
TheHPArsenal 1 year ago
the tales of games are simply sublime.
Croxyndul 1 year ago
thumbs up if you think they should make a Tales of Symphonia Prequel with Mithos, Martel, Yuan and Kratos during the Kharlan War
raigekimaru 1 year ago 165
@raigekimaru I suppose, it worked for Kingdom Hearts and i would like to know how Mithos became a poster boy for childish unstable fuck-ups.
aliastheabnormal 1 year ago
@raigekimaru Interesting idea, but unless you hadn't already played Tales of Symphonia, you'd pretty much already know what was going to happen, and it would place constraints on the story that the Tales writers could tell, which would be a major problem for a series that focuses on telling excellent stories.
immortalfrieza 1 year ago
@immortalfrieza
yeah I know. it would just be like Star Wars =)
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru Great example.
immortalfrieza 1 year ago
@raigekimaru I'd much prefer a sequel when they're adults just because I like afterstory but damn... Any Symphonia game would be good. Some people say the second game isn't as good but I loved it too. The co-op was much better there because camera angles always kept all players on the screen. In the first game it only followed Llyod/Player1 which made it totally boring for others.
WillyTung 1 year ago
@raigekimaru even if they do make one it will most likely suck like DotNW.....i hate that game....
e2slayer 11 months ago
@e2slayer Hey, DotNW didn't really suck that bad. Don't understand the hate for that game really, I liked it, and I played the origonal first. Also, Symphonia is a prequel in itself. It's a prequel for the first tales of game, Tales of Phantasia.
haseoskieth1 11 months ago
@raigekimaru
On the 3DS. If that happened, I'd joygasm quite hard.
SonicKyuubi 11 months ago
@raigekimaru I would love that so much. It would be a sad ending too (because we know Mithos basically eventually goes nuts), which would be interesting given how happy-happy jRPGs can be sometimes.
Aure217 10 months ago
@raigekimaru dude I've been wanting that to happen for a long time lol.
Nate35819 10 months ago
@raigekimaru been toying with the idea of making a prequel for a while, albeit rith RPG maker (quite crude) using the sprite sets from narikiri dungeon 3. i'm a little stuck on a storyline though, so i'm willing to collaberate with anyone
CruxisCrystl 8 months ago
@raigekimaru there is one, its called tales of phantasia, everyone seems to think it takes place 4000 years AFTER symphonia though, its actually whats going on during the ancient war
MrSamus101 7 months ago
@MrSamus101
Because there's a giant tree in Phantasia. You know, just like the one at the end of ToS. And it's named Yggdrasil. I'd say that's pretty compelling evidence that ToS is the prequel.
Snacks256 6 months ago
@Snacks256 you obviously didnt read the entire conversation i had with cloudropis about this
MrSamus101 6 months ago
@Snacks256
hmmm i don't know. i'm not catholic. but did you know tha they named the tree yggdrasill just like in caholic religion?
ChaosXDarkness 5 months ago
@ChaosXDarkness
I just said that. But the name is from Norse mythology.
Snacks256 5 months ago
@Snacks256
hmmm Norse mythology....does it applies to catholic religion?
ChaosXDarkness 5 months ago
@ChaosXDarkness Yggdrasil is the world tree that unites the many worlds of the universe in Norse (Viking/ Scandinavian) Mythology. It has nothing to do with Catholicism for any sect of Christianity.
The Church of Martel has more in common with the Greek Orthodox Church when you analyse the architecture of the churches in the game. The Pope is lifted from the Catholic Church, but aside from that, the similarities between Christianity and the Church of Martel are superficial at best.
clovernoris 3 months ago
@clovernoris
Jesus man spoilers.
IamConar 1 month ago
@IamConar That spoiled something?
clovernoris 1 month ago
@clovernoris
The trees name. shhhh lol
IamConar 1 month ago
@Scoodlz its : why can you not accept the ideal world that i have in vision?
shadowvic56 1 year ago
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"My sister means everything to me... I won't let anyone get in my way.
I'll revert this entire world back to nothingness....."
INDIGNATION JUDGEMENT!!
1stPersonParkour 1 year ago
"My sister means everything to me... I won't let anyone get in my way.
I'll revert this entire world back to nothingness....."
INDIGNATION JUDGEMENT!!
1stPersonParkour 1 year ago 2
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"My sister means everything to me... I won't let anyone get in my way.
I'll revert this entire world back to nothingness....."
INDIGNATION JUDGEMENT!!
1stPersonParkour 1 year ago
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"My sister means everything to me... I won't let anyone get in my way.
I'll revert this entire world back to nothingness....."
INDIGNATION JUDGEMENT!!
1stPersonParkour 1 year ago
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"My sister means everything to me... I won't let anyone get in my way.
I'll revert this entire world back to nothingness....."
INDIGNATION JUDGEMENT!!
1stPersonParkour 1 year ago
"My sister means everything to me... I won't let anyone get in my way.
I'll revert this entire world back to nothingness....."
INDIGNATION JUDGEMENT!!
1stPersonParkour 1 year ago
Human, do not tell me what is right and wrong. FIGHT
Mithos was one of the most missunderstood villians there has ever been. and personally he's one of the best.
yggdrasill709 1 year ago 3
"I just wanted a world for my sister and me, I don't regret my choice, I would choose it all over again if I had the choice."
NoblemanNick 1 year ago 4
I can only imagine how old Mithos is!
TailosThe3 1 year ago
@TailosThe3 he's 4000...
meepfeet 1 year ago
@meepfeet Well... 4000-ish, The War was 4000 years ago... He wasn't born and then instantly end the war... His physical appearance is only 14. The wiki lists his age as 4000+ so I just guess around 4014 maybe?
ChrisAwesome1994 1 year ago
the final boss is a joke! Like in most RPG's the hardest boss can be found in some form of battle arena. In this game, the hardest battle is defo the one against those four guys in Meltokio Battle Arena
KuriousJoe1 1 year ago
@KuriousJoe1 did you ever fight abyssion those four compared to him is the real joke actually any other boss in that game compared to him is a joke
kyo1546 1 year ago
@kyo1546 No I didn't but am now in the process of obtaining those cursed items, so soon I will have battled against Abyssion :)
KuriousJoe1 1 year ago
@KuriousJoe1 lol yeah you may get really frustrated remember unison attacks are your friend i personally didnt realize how good they were until i'd died against him like 6 times i think i beat him when i was about level 70 but good luck
kyo1546 1 year ago
@KuriousJoe1 nah, the hardest is defintly that black arm devil boss.
meepfeet 1 year ago
@KuriousJoe1
The hardest boss in Tales of Symphonia hands down especially in Mania Mode is Abyssion.
NoblemanNick 1 year ago
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werewolfjedi38 1 year ago
@KuriousJoe1 I disagree, if you rush through the without leveling, he can still kick your ass up and down the street, he can own in final form.
werewolfjedi38 1 year ago
Holy Lance!!
xTheLemon 1 year ago
The game rocks but the endfight isn´t that hard if you have luck with your computer pals^^
Krati08071995 1 year ago
love ths game
martelsexy 1 year ago
I'm surprised no one commented on the fact that Mithos Yggdrasil was such an interesting Villain because he wasn't necessarily evil, He was the Hero of the Karlan War. He simply wanted to end discrimination. He just went about it differently.
Also, the fact that he appears to you first as a seemingly older, more mature angel, you assume he is mature in his desires. Instead, the fact that he is still a child almost creates pity. a little boy afraid to lose his sister. Interesting villain indeed.
chibisuke580 1 year ago 87
@chibisuke580 the same thing with Duke in Tales of Vesperia
DumbassGuitars 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 Perfect explanation of Yggdrassil and his motivations.
G102Y5568 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 Perfect explanation of Yggdrasil.
In my opinion, he is the foil to Lloyd. They want the exact same thing, and Lloyd's striving to become exactly like him. Lloyd and Mithos were both optimistic people trying to save the world, Lloyd obtained Origin's sword, Lloyd obtained the eight summon spirits, Lloyd travelled on almost the same identical quest as Mithos originally. And at the end of the game, they both achieved god-like status.
It brings a sense of realism to the game.
G102Y5568 1 year ago
@G102Y5568
And in the second game he apparently become a fallen game like Yggdrasil. Haven't played it though, just the first.
haseoskieth1 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 Everyone always strives in RPGs to become the god-like character who can control everything and save the world. Someone has already achieved that, and realized the only way to save the world is to ruin it completely. That really hits home.
G102Y5568 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 another reason why i fucken LOVE this game and miss it so :'(
coolman96786 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 Cool story, bro.
Shimmerstrike123 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 Never heard anything more true
verticostate 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 I don't consider Mithos Yggdrassil a villain at all. Why? Because a villain is an opposing uncaring monster, an antihero, someone whose motivations you can't understand, who does things you can't even begin to relate to. The Joker, Pyramid Head, HAL, these are villains. Mithos Yggdrassil is the exact opposite. He is a hero who everyone understands, everyone relates to, who shows his true emotional side and makes you want to save him rather than destroy him at the end.
G102Y5568 1 year ago 2
@G102Y5568 Damn, well said indeed. I gotta say that in a world where intelligence is scarce, you seem to be in quite a surplus. That comment made my day!
chibisuke580 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 If you want to keep in touch I can give you my AIM, Skype, or whatever.
G102Y5568 1 year ago
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@G102Y5568 lol sure, I'm chibi_chibi_chibisuke@hotmail.com. do you have windows live messaging?
chibisuke580 1 year ago
@G102Y5568 id have to agree that Mithos didnt start out as a villain, and even at the end may have good motives at his core, however, what he does is pretty villainous; create a race of lifeless beings, perpetuatre a cycle of destruction, manipulate entire worlds... none of these acts can be called heroic.
Korraganitar 1 year ago
@Korraganitar At best, i'd say Mithos is a fallen hero, much in the way that Darth Vader or Lucifer are; beings who started out as great heroes but who, through some flaw or happening fell to become great villains. Mithos is at best simply the antagonist, the players adversary. At worst hes a tragic villain, one who is doing all the wrong things for innocent reasons... one who i can't help but pity. I know i would be a little crazy is i lost my sister too!
Korraganitar 1 year ago
@Korraganitar At best, i'd say Mithos is a fallen hero, much in the way that Darth Vader or Lucifer are; beings who started out as great heroes but who, through some flaw or happening fell to become great villains. At best hes just the antagonist, at worst a tragi villain... i still feel sad inside when i beat him and his last word is "Martel..." dammit!
Korraganitar 1 year ago
@chibisuke580
I disagree, Mithos is the ironic picture of the true nature of evil. evil is the result when good intentions are twisted by weakness and suffering. that is why Mithos is represented as a blond haired, blue eyed pretty boy angel with an idealistic temperament. the main difference between Mithos and Lloyd is; Mithos is weak. not physically weak, but emotionally weak. The truth is we probably don't see the whole picture of what shaped Mithos into this twisted mentality.
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@chibisuke580
this weakness should not suggest that I do not pity him, it is just an illustration that the bad guys in real life are not are all tall, dark, bass voiced old men with booming laughs. what Mithos really needs is a hug and someone to say "I love you" or "I accept you" he has no strength because he has no one to understand him or emotionally support him.
PS: to amend my previous point, evil is *usually* caused by twisted good intentions,
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru hmmm you certainly have a point there. Indeed another thing that makes Mithos such an interesting protagonist is that he has a very clear weak point. Most villains try to hide their weak points, But Mithos' is in plain sight.
huh...very interesting. I hadn't really thought about the contrast between Lloyd and Mithos in that context before...and it proved to be rather enlightening. Thank you
chibisuke580 1 year ago
@chibisuke580
Lloyd is unable to understand Mithos tho because he has always been strong. "is it a sin to be weak hearted?" "sometimes running away is the only way to save yourself, humans are so arrogant" Mithos is still that little 12 year old boy who never grew up
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru Hmm...well said indeed. So much to analyze in one game. That just goes to show how awesome it is
chibisuke580 1 year ago
@chibisuke580
he is kinda like the final boss of fallout 1, except he's much more likable (since he's a lot less ugly)
Kamfrenchie 1 year ago
@Kamfrenchie I'm not seeing the comparison here.
The player character: Hey Master, did you know your mutants can't have babies no matter how much they have sex?
The Master: Wait WHAT? THEN I MUST DIE.
God knows how they'd do that anyway. You can't tell which are female...
DGneoseeker1 1 year ago
@DGneoseeker1
Come on he's a great villain. Plus you need to have high dialogue skills for that. And He does it to end wars aswell. lus he set up all tha orgaisation.
Bu yes the best way to en the game is by fighting him.
Kamfrenchie 1 year ago
@Kamfrenchie Oh I just meant I'm not sure I get the comparison between a mutated flesh blob/computer cyborg and a kid angel with magic powers.
DGneoseeker1 1 year ago
@DGneoseeker1
well Mithos wanted to turn everyone in "angels".
Th master wanted to turn evryon into mutants.
They both thought the angels/mutants were superior beings didn't they?
Kamfrenchie 1 year ago
@Kamfrenchie
Hmm. Fair enough then. I never did complete TOS so I'm working from youtube videos only... The game is sooo damn long.
DGneoseeker1 1 year ago
@DGneoseeker1
ow, didn't meant to spoil you, but yeah it's pretty damn long, even if it's pretty good too. That's why I only played it once.
Kamfrenchie 1 year ago
@Kamfrenchie i think i have beat the game 8 times now XD
holykirby95 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 Yeah, this game was amazing...
eatmyplis 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 You're right, that's what I liked about it. Even though he was the antagonist, the story line does make you have sympathy for him. This tells actually that (at least what I believe) there is no real evil (also not in the real world). Even though people don't have your interests at heart, they all have their own reasons and all try to do the good thing from their point of view. Now at the end of the game you see that Mithos loses track of everything, which makes you able to fight hm
autricio 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 THANK YOU! :D one of the most interesting villains of all time in my opinion because his ideals weren't just black and white. you would really have to put yourself in his position to understand why he did the things that he did..
Ezwawi1994 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 Poor Mithos....I hope the gods have mercy on him. Long term sadness can send even the best of heroes down the wrong path....Mithos is one good example. The Spiral King from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is another example.
MichaelNahrilas 1 year ago
@chibisuke580 youre soooo right man . i thought i was the only one thinking like that 0_0
drijan9 11 months ago
@chibisuke580 I hate the Yggdrassils, and I hate that Lloyd glorifies them so much, Mithos was a useless shit that used discrimination as an excuse to take countless lives for the sake of the rotting corpse of his idiotic sister and Martel is a failure of warrior that got herself killed the stupidest way she could and then decided to take on the role of a Summon Spirit despite her obvious limitations.
Many half-elves, like Raine and Richter are amazing, it's the Yggdrassils that are garbage.
kztar621 10 months ago
@chibisuke580 Common misconception. Mithos was evil.
Having a righteous or even morally agreeable reason to take an action, does not stop an action from being evil. Shooting someone in the back of the head is still shooting someone in the back of the head. Some actions can be acknowledged as necessary, but this does not stop them from being evil.
What Mithos wanted to do in Tales of Symphonia was evil. No doubt about it. False salvation is not salvation.
PimpnCereal 9 months ago
@PimpnCereal Though originally his goal wasn't false salvation. truly evil people are those who in the belief that they're doing right do wrong. Noone can really say what is right or wrong when doing it. example is the 2nd tales game(SPOILER UP AHEAD) in which unifying the two worlds has brought on injustice and destruction. So what Lloyd does isn't that good a deed either, now is it? Iim not saying Mithos was good or anything, just that calling him absolute evil is a bit naïve.
Devilofthedarkflame 9 months ago
@chibisuke580 you answered your own question, my phrend.
NOW DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
freefall742 9 months ago
my name is martel
martelsexy 1 year ago
Mithos: I...cant not die...until i save..Martel
TabooLoves69 1 year ago
Mithos: Ill show u the meaning of true power. Mithos is God lol Judgement!!! is that All
TabooLoves69 1 year ago
best to fight this battle on mania
lloydrocks178 1 year ago
this boss was vicouis his chartater is so interesing as well !
thursdaykidx 1 year ago
The Yggdrassill form of Mithos would have been cooler for a final battle.
darknumber000 2 years ago
I call upon thee in the land of the dead to unleash thy fury of thunder!! INDIGNATION!
HaruTouga 2 years ago 3
Love this boss and that line
thursdaykidx 1 year ago
yggdrassil is also Mithos, get your facts right
dexlezhermit 2 years ago
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What a crappy looking final boss.
LordProteus 2 years ago
I agree. I BEZ A FAGGOT, JUDGEMENT!
Patcheresu 2 years ago
The final boss is Yggdrasil? No,right?
fiercezero 2 years ago
Mithos.
Pokerit 2 years ago
@fiercezero yes yggdrasil/mithos is the final boss sort of a pushover if ur at the right level now if u want a challenge u should look into finding the devil arms and fighting abyssion but i would recommend fightin all the summon spirits first for the exp god i need this game again
kyo1546 2 years ago
Mithos is Yggdrasil I believe Mithos Yggdrasil is his full name
OnixRose 2 years ago
People need not introduce themselves to a dog..
Managuabrother 2 years ago
4 - 5 years ago me and my brother played this game every day, and when we got to this boss, he was so easy XD
Kainkarg 2 years ago 2
ToS is my favorite game ever. I dusted it off a few days ago and started replaying it. I hadn't played it for years and replaying it made me feel again how great that game is. The soundtrack is really one of the greatest video game soundtracks. Love this song, when it plays during the battle, you know that now the shit's going down, you've busted your ass to get here, now it's time to put and end to it all.
supermagnumforce 2 years ago
I always felt so bad for Mithos. He wasn't driven mad for evil reasons; all he wanted was to see his sister and friends united once more, and to bring equality to the world. He became obsessed with the impossibility of bringing his sister back from the grave and changing the minds of all mortals that he finally gave into psychotic despair. He's one of my favorite video game villains.
valiantvyse 2 years ago 3
Cool, also have you seen Genis's Mystic Arte?
INDIGNATION!!! Tales of Legendia is possibly the only game that makes that a normal move.
Patcheresu 2 years ago
@Patcheresu you can get it as a normal move in this game to
kingred111 2 years ago
I meant Indignation Juag(Indignation Judgement)
Patcheresu 2 years ago
JUDGMENT
I gotta say, I love how he says "judgment" in the final battle. Dunno why.
nivvychan 2 years ago 3
YES!!! I love it, its so sexy to me. I tell my party to stop attacking sometimes just to hear him say it, not like me attacking would stop him, Im very under leveled when I do playtrhoughs
Ragnell101 2 years ago
I know he sounds like he's just ready to kill hast to be one of my more favorite villians
TalesofFans 2 years ago
@nivvychan
I completely agree 100%. The only thing better is how he says "Die" in the 2nd form final battle.
Und1ne 1 year ago
Disappear!
princeoftennis5110 2 years ago
I believe it's, "Why can't you accept the ideal world that I have envisioned." Don't know why someone would thumbs down you for being so close.
xKingTakashix 2 years ago
"How can your world be ideal when you've killed countless innocent people?"
They should definitely release the PS2 version here in America, but I doubt that's ever gonna happen anytime soon or at all.
kyuubinaruto42 2 years ago