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  • Michael Moore is the best thing for republicans! Just let him be known for a democrat and game over..Thanks Michael...

  • A good example of a modern Democrat would be Michael Moore, who, besides being a complete idiot, routinely and very publicly denigrates our nation to the world. Michael Moore would only be too happy if absolutely every person on this planet hated America and all it stands for. Michael Moore sucks on may different levels, he's a typical modern Democrat, a liberal Hollywood personality, but mostly Michael Moore is a liar who makes a living out of bashing the United States of America.

  • LOL he just had to add at the end that he like the movie. Way to go!

  • ..people he'd do it for free. BTW he started at $10k but felt his infinite wisdom was worth $30k. To me even at a college which is mostly privatized $30k for a speaker is a misuse of funds. Read 'Michael Moore big Fat Stupid White Man' it will give you an infallible picture of what he is all about, if after reading it your not like 1000% sure Moore clearly doesnt have our best interest at heart then u have a defective brain

  • This talented man could be making a ton of $ doing other things. Instead he passionately tries to educate the mindless sheep in America. When this country no longer has sources of dissent who question authority & the truths they espouse were all in trouble. Amazing how the politicans & corperations through biased media sources can fool most of America most of time (laughs). This guy comes along & tries to turn back the tide on the willingly blissful American public only to hear flack for it lol.

  • @MichaelPAUSA

    If narcissism did not already exist it would be created to describe Michael Moore. I agree the media is dishonest & the voice of dissent u described is indeed vital but its not Moore's. Ur 1st 2 sentences, Moore makes plenty & is passionate about being the center of attention & being able to preach to people who applaud him after every sentence. He tours universities charging them $30k a pop to give speeches about how evil the rich are. If he was really passionate bout educating...

  • Don't believe Michael Moore? Don't think the insurance industry is paying people to lie to you to keep you in opposition of HCR?

    Go up to the search bar here and type in Wendell Potter meets Michael Moore and take a look

  • haha boogey man lol

  • I'm getting anxiety from watching the news these days. To many liberals and conservatives fighting instead of coming together and trying to make this country better. We keep fighting and fighting and all it does is dooms this country.

  • Wow Wolf opened it up with a slam, poor michael is not smart enough to recover after that

  • health insurance for everyone with the poorest people having subsidised / free insurance is the way to go. why would anyone want the government to control their healthcare?

    uk nhs is government controlled, restricted by budget & massive cut's to help cut the country's deficit. out of date cancer drugs are being used is just one example. hospitals that overspend are unable to supply decent levels of healthcare so depending on what area you live can mean the difference between life & death.

  • @TheAllha. The French healthcare system is far from a single-payer system. While it is true that capital is centrally taxed, the capital is managed through largely private non-profit insurance firms. Hospitals and the physicians are independently-run, by the way. In addition, the same can be said about the Dutch system where basic coverage costs are controlled, and yet this is in a largely private industry.

  • Draft Dodger

    

  • Draft Dodger

  • 2:15 - 2:50

  • Theres one thing I dont understand:

    Why on earth do Americans still mention NAZI??????

    Thats soooo loooong long time ago... they better mention kkk or something...

  • wolf blitzer=AIPAC criminal drone

    Judge him harshly

  • It´s a AHHHHHrrr War :)

  • But this second half of this interview was better then the first, this half was more of what you think not bam in for face.

  • You know if the media got fixed and was not as biased, the people would be better informed and thus vote better and speak their minds.

  • media sucks and lies

  • True about the Ameican media, I was living in Nairobi, Kenya and return to the USA and listened to the BULLSHIT on the USA News. this country brainwash it's people daily. I use to feel that the USA was the greatest country to live in, after traveling to other counties and living in them, the USA is okay, not the greatest

  • @1957welder

    Please feel free to move to one and stay there.

  • @pbfuddle stupid white trash arent ya...

  • @73Paulicstar

    Wow, what a sharp comment. I'll wager it took you hours to come up with it; and to think that I spent 8 years in submarines working to defend future sharp thinkers like you. Take your pseudo-intellect and stick your neck out for the country then talk to me.

  • @1957welder go live in your other coutries then

  • @mannie12 I have plans too, Brian Williams of MSNBC reported: right now September 14, 2011, over 3000 of your school teachers are moving to UAE and Middle-Eastern Countries to work for far better money, and are told they will NEVER see a pink slip in their LIFETIME (watch to tape). The United States of America is YESTERDAYS NEWS, The Republicans will have all Americans barefooted and stupid working for Wal-mart and McDonalds. BYE BYE AMERICA!!! VOTE REPUBLICAN 2012!!!

  • @1957welder if you have no hope in america, just like michael moore...it will ruin what america stands for....its always stood for freedom. Period. the people that hate working at walmart have the right to leave and find a better source of income. Our country was not built for lazy people, but for pioneers looking to better their life and the lives of others.

  • @mannie12 NO!! Mike M. has hope for the USA, I don't. Americans don't know how to stand together when they KNOW their being FU*KED IN THE AZZ. What did you think about your fellow Americans hating on the Teachers? Writing and saying they have it to good? Have you tried taken care of 30 plus kids at once? If they are middle school Teachers 210 different kids in a days. What do you think about your fellow Americans hating on workers who want better wages to live the American Dream? BYE BYE AMERICA

  • @mannie12 Google HULU and watch for FREE "The American Ruling Class", "The Corporation", "War made Easy","Pregant-in America". and see what your GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD does to the American People, just a taste of what the INSURANCE COMPANIES are getting away with. NOW I have given you alittle food to think about about, "IF" you want to know the TRUTH, I know you CHRISTIAN ARE NOT TO BIG ON KNOWING THE TRUTH, BECAUSE IT SCARES YOU ALL.

  • @1957welder your kind of thinking brings the whole country down. imagine if everyone was as pessimistic as you. my religious beliefs have nothing to do with the way i see our country and i'd really appreciate it if you'd get your nose out of dumb stuff like that. thanks. furthermore, about COMPANIES doing this and that to american people, you're clearly confusing business with an entire country.

  • @mannie12 yes, there are businesses that run with little empathy for the workers, but as americans, we have that freedom to choose where we want to work, where we want to live, or, if we want to start a business of our own with great values,we can. Don't talk about what you don't know about.

  • HAHAHAHAHAhA!!! "isthat our next boogie man" ahahahha this guy represents a hidden part of americans who are not idiots on their ideas of "patrioidiotism" i hope people like him keep getting stronger and the USA can become even better and more respected for its international politics and actions, no war, no money conspiracy and so much bad stuff that dont representate right the good american people

  • @xandepope Agreed.

  • What a disgusting piece of human waste he is.

  • @GodotheInfantry Why do you feel that way about Michael Moore? He's right about the Iranian wardrums.

  • @GodotheInfantry Infantry, huh? Too bad you survived. . .The more dipshits like you that die in the war the better. . .fuckin' dumbass! But I bet you probably didn't see much combat, did ya soldier boy?

  • Michael Moore is absolutely correct about American health insurance.

  • @AlvinEinschwein Michael Moore is correct about nothing.

  • Michael Moore, the Cherry Picker

  • everybody stop fighting! ( running out of room with hand over my ears. )

  • just turn ur computer off

  • It is not a case of philosophy, it is about empathy and taking care of each other. Moored is great and brilliant ^.^

  • here's a typical Ytube comment displaying hints of intellignece between insults: Yuor a fag jew! Sarah Palin is hot and i wnat to drunk her cume fomr her volvo peepee, u a gay fag. 2 + 2 is 5. imma buss a nut en yore face whole...libs libs libs libs libs libs libs libs libs libs...

  • Maybe the theme for his next movie - don`t the army.why would you?

  • What has to change is listening to idiots like Moore. Powerful film? Powerful propaganda showing the best of the worst and the worst of the best.  An american's complaint on health care is spoiled, while the canadian is happy to wait only two months instead of 6 months for an x ray. what a joke this spin monster is.

  • Jeez, drinking right-wing Kool-Aid seems to be your big skill, doesn't it? Is sucking right-wing cock something you do well also? Or are you able to think without right-wing neoconservative think tanks giving you info like a mother feeding her baby Gerber food? Please grow the fuck up and stop being a baby.

  • neville you seem to be "cock" centered in your posts. hmmm just a hunch but are by chance a closet homosexual?

    That would explain your emphasis on the subject you keep referring to.

    Are you capable of replying using some semblance of substance?

    Maybe, you know, throw in a fact or two... maybe a logically based statement now and then?

    Maybe try to explain how you justify taking money away from those who earn it, to give to those who don't, when in reality that's called servitude.

  • war is to secure our interests, period. he won't die for that. Screw his freedom rights and send him to cuba where he belongs, but make sure to strip him of his millions too, maybe then he'll understand how long he'll have to fight to rise up against castro.

  • Notice he admits he leaves you in the dark on the negative aspects of the other systems, and continues to degrade our own. He is misleading mind, unfair, unbalanced.

  • Yeah, give up your freedom to Castro, and get "free" care. Moore is a serious blind idealist. I hope you who like him can think for yourself.

  • He bashes the current US system, but seems to indicate the problem is cost. Ok, so let's fix the cost issue, because the quality is the best in the world.

    How do you improve cost?

    Competition!

    How do you increase competition?

    Let govt enter the ring which can operate indefinitely at a loss by taxing us? Ummm no.

    You remove the laws that prevent competition across state lines today. You kill all the unbelievable law suits that are brought against imperfect Dr's for trying to save lives.

  • Competition? between what?! The health insurance industry is exempt from anti-trust laws and we all know how well the banking and cell phone industry have treated the american people with almost no regulation.

  • wahr, competition is lacking in the system. Insurers aren't even able to compete across state lines. So that really competitive, excellent product selling company way across the country can't even cater to me because of the wrong type of govt interference.

    The banking industry is another example of govt interference hitting all of us hard. Like telling lending agencies who they have to make loans to, etc.

    Cell phone industry? $30/month is a pretty good deal. No complaints with them.

  • wahr, competition is lacking in the system. Insurers aren't even able to compete across state lines. So that really competitive, excellent product selling company way across the country can't even cater to me because of the wrong type of govt interference.

    The banking industry is another example of govt interference hitting all of us hard. Like telling lending agencies who they have to make loans to, etc.

    Cell phone industry? $30/month is a pretty good deal. No complaints with them.

  • Yet another moron drinking right-wing Kool-Aid as if it's water. What's wrong, can't get into the pants of Rush Limpdick fast enough? Not able to suck his cock hard enough? Or is it that you'll die if you don't get your daily dose of Faux Noise? get you brain in gear and LEARN SOMETHING about other nation's health care before you open your mouth on YouTube.

  • How's this for knowing something? Every socialized healthcare system in the world is near collapse from Japan to European to even your Canadian, even in bonny Canada the Health Care minister says "the Canadian system is near collapse and Canadians would panic if they knew how bad it was".

  • And I'm supposed to believe this 'news' from neoconservative sheeple like you? Who pick up their info from Faux Noise? Right! The only thing I believe is that you love to get teabagged by the Republican Party and the degenerates that infest it, then believe that life is all right, and everything's okay. Keep on being deluded, then.

  • Dr. Anne Doig, the incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, said her countrys health care system is sick and imploding, the Canadian Press reported.

    We know there must be change, Doig said in a recent interview. Were all running flat out, were all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands.

    We all agree the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize, she said

    Faux news?

  • waht,s micheal moor,s opion on sarah palin and hillery cilton, waht dose he say about them.??

  • neville, don't know what's got your panties in a wad... oh wait yes I do...

    It's that I make sense in my posts and you can't refute them based on substantive replies so all you have to resort to are childish insults.

    Good luck with that. Let us all know how it works out for you. Cuz it doesn't take a genius to see when you reply based on anger and I post based on principle.

    Like competition actually does lower prices.

    Govt really does tell lenders who they must lend to.

    etc.

    lol!

  • he tells it how it is! go moore

  • I watch CNN, I learn the names. klein, schwartz, brown and weiss, lisovitz, rabinowitz, wolfovitz, rosenberg, sonnenfeld, feinberg, weinberger, bloomberg, blitzer, spitzer, schweitzer, cohen, cohen and more cohen...

  • @themagnussons

    at first i thought this was anti - semitic but if one thinks about it, how many Americans would trust a nes braodcaster whose presenters/analysts were named Abdullah, Hussein, Mohammed, Abdurrahman, Al-...... and al-....... and more Al-.......?

    an honest question, so no hate mail, plz

  • Let me say this: do you see how they emphasize on the so-called jordanian origins of this us army doctor who killed his fellow american soldiers? (it was a most brutal, horrible act!) How CNN reported every five minutes that this guy is muslim and his roots are jordanian. I watched it and they did. Despite of the fact that he was born, raised and educated in the US. He was american. CNN was also busy emphasizing that the black american guy, the DC sniper who just got executed is a muslim.

  • They only mentioned him by his adopted muslim name which he only used for a couple of month. He just adopted islam as his religion a few month before he started to kill, yet CNN reported every five minutes that he is a muslim. He was a an american born black american. I also watched CNN when they reported on Bernie Madoff who stole 6o billion, Governor Spitzer who spent his money on hookers, Alan Greenspan who broke the US economy etc. CNN never really mentioned the jewish origins of these men.

  • CNN never reports every five minutes that Roman Polansky who faces pedophile charges has jewish origins, they never emphasize on that. Somehow in those cases racial background and origin doesn't seem to be so important. I do not support islam, I do not support bad human behaviour, I do not support anything that goes against basic human values. I also not support bias, one sided, calculating and manipulating newscast. I am a white christian, don't care much for religion. I just want honesty.

  • I guess that the KKK has overfilled it's recruitment quota for the week, judging by morons like you talking bullshit. Did somebody not clean up the cubicle at work last night for you?

  • I just don't understand why it makes me a KKK prospect if I note that David Cohen, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, Timothy Geithner, Lloyd Blankfein are the ones who run our finance sector in the past twenty years. Oh, that they are all jews. So what? Somebody has to do it right? (Oh, that they bankrupted our nation?) I bet they also advised the old humpback guy, what's his name? Ah yes, Madoff who stole sixty billions... Well, this way it stays in the family. Mazel Tov, succcker!

  • neville are you denigrating those who work in office environments? Sure sounds like it. Sorry to hear you're not only homosexually focused, but also discriminatory toward cubicle workers. Your posts continue to explain much about you. Why all you can do is insult instead of providing any form of meaningful debate/discussion.

    Oh well, it's fairly typical for liberals so don't feel like you're alone or anything.

    Say, maybe between insults you could try to display some knowledge or something.

  • @themagnussons

    very good points!

  • He was right again. Iran is the New Boogy man;

    and CNN has been beating the war drums.

  • yeah but he was wrong about no one falling for it. Fox and cnn have been going ballitic on the war drums.

  • Yeah I know it is so very sad that people are so easily fooled.

    The sheeple dont realize that this is how WW1 and WW2 started; it did not start in Europe, it started in North Africa they changed history to fool them.

    North Africa is the Middle East they do not call it North Africa anymore; because if they did we would know what their plans really are.

  • @pranays Wrong. General Electric is beating the war drums. CNN is just broadcasting it.

  • IRAN is the new boogy man and guess wat i bet u if any thing we r going into IRAN and u know why cause they saide if Israil trys to attck them they well attck back and if u know wat that means well yes that means WAR cause amricas not going to let them fight alone its now year 2009 the coments have been made and pepople have already made there choices mark my words well go into IRAN if they dont get Rid of there nuke program WACTH....the shadow..........

  • you are essentially a bad speller

  • no wonder he wants free health care lol

  • funny, lol. NOT, you stupid cunt

  • Yes, like you're going to need such care when your neoconservative ass get really old, and you can't do jack shit.

    BTW, Mike is doing fine; he's on a diet, and walks a couple of miles a day, just as he said at the end of Sicko.

  • Can you be any more a stupid, deluded brainwashed neoconservative stooge? No, none more brainwashed than right now.

  • I will watch this despite the shitty audio

  • For me there's no really right or left only, pro banks and wall street cheerleaders or politicians who defend the US citizens from Neocons, Corporations and elites. And Obama is another puppet following the orders that the people who put him there (Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Microsoft ect) give him.

  • Great call.

  • obama sings to us but no sex change

  • Should have voted in REALLY LARGE NUMBERS for Ralph Nader, then.

  • Go Mr.Moore!!! :)))

  • the rushie Great Depression neocons is the obstruction party of NO ... the neocons are mind controlled ditto heads ... the manson family i mean meocon family continue its war on humanity .. take health care .. medical professionals are giving up their energies to the thousands of needy at the staples center in los angeles where they give free medical & dental for 7 days .. they normally go to 3rd world places like costa rica .. where are those manson family hooligans who say change is not needed

  • the rushie Great Depression neocons is the obstruction party of NO ... the neocons are mind controlled ditto heads ... the manson family i mean meocon family continue their war against science, the truth & democracy .. they were on tv today ... yelling & screaming to drown out all others ... they were yelling about how multimillion superbowl quarterback kurt warner has to pay for health insurance for welfare recipients ...that those days are over for kurt who was on welfare for only a few years

  • It's sad that you use terms and you don't even know what they mean. The "neocons" are a defined group of Jewish Republicans like Bill Crystal. It is a foreign policy ideology only. Neocons believe it's moral to use the economic, social, moral and military might of America to spread freedom and liberty throughout the world. So i guess if you hate Neocons then you're anti-freedom, anti-liberty, right?

    Any attempt to link Neoconism to domestic policy just shows you as being horribly ill informed.

  • No, it just means that they aren't brainwashed neoconservative sheeple like you, believing everything Bush & Co. tells them.

  • So much better than a wannabe Euro who's nation has never done anything other than say "me too". i offered up what Neoconservative actually means, rather than the left's racist anti-Semitic use of it that boils down to "dirty Jew".

    you might want to examine yourself and try to discover why you're so full of hatred. Perhaps one day you'll mature and ask yourself why you make claims like "sucking right wing cock" while you're taking it in the ass for chairman Mao.

  • Oh, I'm a 'wannabe Euro' now, huh? Kind of like you being a wannabe bum-boy for the neoconservative corporate war criminals and degenerates that infest the Republican party. I guess sucking neoconservative cock and licking neoconservative pussy (Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, etc.) still isn't enough; you want more.

    I'm only 'full of hatred' as you say, for SHEEPLE that can't see the truth of what's wrong with their country , and talk bullshit all of the time.

  • BTW, if you knew what you were talking about you'd know that "Neoconservative" is a racist progressive code word for "dirty Jew". Neoconservatism is a Jewish conservative foreign policy ideology which was nothing to do with internal policy. Simply stated neoconservatism is "a belief that the US should use its moral, economic and military might to foster Democracy throughout the globe". So keep sounding unintelligent and spouting hatred... it's obviously working for you.

  • @SYNPlaymaker88

    hey do you like Michael Moore?

  • so explain why the architect of the neo-con movement, Machiavelli, is Roman Catholic.

  • michael moore rocks!!!

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    Zionist Israel is evil 666 & the root of ALL evil

    Zionist US-PsychoCryptoJews did 9/11 & 7/7 (the holocaust on christian lands)

    The War On Terror is a war for ISRAEL666s MASONIC EMPIRE (the holocaust on islamic lands)

    We are ALL paying taxes for Israel666s global terrorist war-crimes

    Wake up USA & coalition, you're killing and dying for Israel666's psychoSatanic interests

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  • exactly

    but the roots are much more profound, knowing that zionists have taken all the major western press and the major decision making positions..

    look at france britain canada germany switzerland, in these countrys u cant criticize israel, otherwise the media and the state destroys you, that shows very clearly that the zionists have succeeded in one of their plans : total control of the press and of finance, with those 2 they automatically control the politics.. CATASTROPHIC

  • Love to see Michael laughing at the question based on the tour in Iran.The media bitches trying all of the rumors to make a person with kind wishes and strong political criticism to the society look silly.Michael trying to help,and nothing else.

    Fuck The Media!

  • GUYS MEDIA made YOU THINK THAT MICHAEL JACKSON was a PERVERT: NOW THEY TRY TO TELL YOU THAT Moor is a fucking LIAR,dont trust to Media,politics try to RULE over you,dont let those FAGGOTS do this

  • @Bassaddicted6 Yup. CNN is so big that it doesn't matter if what they say is true. All they have to say, "We've looked into the Moore footage available and there MAY BE some conflict between his numbers and what we have gathered."

    That's all it takes to discredit Mike.

    If Mike wants to discredit CNN on the other hand, I think 2:15-2:50 said it best.

    "You little fuckers might not lie.....but you shitheads make DAMN sure you don't tell the whole truth. " And that's the bottom line.

  • Michael Moore & Bill O'Reilly have a secret love affair. One is for the far left, one is for the far right. They compliment each other so, so well.

  • Club GITMO is a vacation getaway

  • hahahaha you think obama is a communist?

    Research Lenin or krushchev and you'll see how stupid you made yourself look

  • obama is a HARDCORE communist you imbecile, ur gonna see it soon, america has chosen to take it veeeery slow on its road to a comunist dictatorial regime,they wanted it since more than a century, only american leaders and bankers saw that the nazi and soviet regimes came brutally, very fast, they knew that was the reason for their failure, so they chose the very slow way, step by step, through disguised reforms that are conceived 2 take ur liberties away

  • ahahahahahahaha he hasnt really changed much thn bush

    Lenin is a communist

    Castro is a communist

    Obama is very far away from any type of communist regime

  • you're just saying he's communist because he's not white and cares about helping people. hm.

  • Obama is no way near communist. Seen from Europe (Sweden in my case), he is quite right-wing. And Republicans are extreme right-wing.

    Obviously, Americans have a post cold war trauma. They haven't recover from the McCarthyism period yet... They are ignorant of the difference between: social democrat, socialist, communist.

    As for the US, it is just far too ultra-liberal to go communist anytime soon. No risk

  • Here here. Trouble is, they won't agree with you because they have no comparators

  • @pcxft Obama is just an incompetent college professor who doesn't know how to do anything but waste money on projects solely design to buy him more votes. That's why his policies only served to depress the economy and this is why he will not get re-elected.  As for his being right-wing, you'd have to define that term as you use it. As for McCarthyism, there's nothing to recover from. He was 100% correct--there were Communists in the U.S. government. This was proven from Soviet gov documents.

  • @pcxft Sweden is way more communist (in the sense that the government pays for, well, almost everything) than Obama. And Communism is just not anything like socialism. Communism is the government run by the people, the government paying for everything, just like a huge community, which almost all European countries are. Socialism is a dictatorship. There isn't a more democratic government than Communism.

  • @einXtein "Communism is the government run by the people": nope. But "run by the people" is close to the definition of democracy

    In communist countries, the states owns all the means of production. Can you run a private business in Sweden? Yes you can, simply because it isn't communist

    "The government paying for everything" is socialism. It's different from dictatorship. Sweden is socialist due to high taxes and the state redistributing the money by paying for schools, hospitals, roads,...

  • @pcxft Socialism and Communism are two different governments. Communist governments are truly anarchists, run by the people. Is probably the most democratic form of government to exist (or to NOT exist). Socialism is a dictatorship. Being democratic doesn't prevent a country from being Communist, since it isn't a dictatorship. A Capitalist country can be democratic or not (Fascism). A "Socialist" can be democratic (Communism) or not.

  • @einXtein You should look up the definition of all these words you use. Someone told you lots of things that are not correct. Capitalism / Socialism are both economic systems not governments. Communism and Democracy are both government systems. A dictatorship is it's own completely different thing. Anarchy is the complete lack of any overarching governmental authority. I hope that's a start.

  • @trippinlikegod Technically, Communism is both a economic and government system. Socialism is only economic. But I was talking about Marx's 3 stages: Capitalism, Socialist Autocracy and Communism.

  • @einXtein wow... you have no idea!

  • wash your potty mouth

  • I hope you are as forceful in your sentiments if you are ever unfortunate enough to fall on hard times.

  • Oh, but you know that they really aren't; they just go on and on as if they're invincible. But when shit happens, they'll be suffering just like the people in Sicko were suffering. What does one expect from brainwashed sheeple, eh?

  • Michael Moore seemed very concerned about the interview being "edited" and "cut up". I found it ironic and somewhat amusing, because he does these very things to his films to make all the pieces fit in such a way as to promote his own skewed ideas.

  • complain all you want about the wating time in canada, but at least there you got a chance to get health care in the us. no money no care.........

  • We only wait for non serious procedures in Canada anything serious they bring you to the front of the line. We never see a bill ever in our life only a health card that get's swiped at the hospital. We would never trade our health card in Canada for anything especially insurance cards that you guys use. Do you want a proffessional Doctor to decide if you need a operation or a fucking insurance company. Wake up people and also i can see a doctor any time in the day i want to. LIttle waiting

  • You paint a rosy picture but just bc you don't see a bill doesn't mean its free. Come on. The system is good for certain things but w/ socialized medicine you lose profit based inventive and things will stagnate. Ever wonder why a vast majority of medical breakthroughs, technology, new drugs are developed in the US? Incentive. That incentive ends up raising the standard of care for everyone in the long run. The US also has the best medical schools and training programs in the world.

  • You guys have no clue with your false information. We have lots of people that try to become doctor's here from other country's but they can help the sick without checking there insurance card first!!! LOL

  • There is a reason so many foreign students desperately try to attend medical school in the states. There is a reason more people travel to the US for medical care than any other country. In Canada you take what the govt decides to give you--don't like it? Tough shit.

  • Doctor's make more money there because they are paid for by insurance companies. Would you rather have a insurance company decide your fate or a doctor decide use your brains it's a easy answer.

  • Ugh, its not just doctors... Its the entire health care industry. You don't know much about the US system--no insurance company is deciding my fate any more than the Canadian govt is deciding yours. US doctors make more bc the government isn't artificially holding prices down for their services. You are slowly going through a brain drain and many of the best Canadian doctors run to the US to practice here.

  • It's not the canadian goverment dickhead it's the doctor's smartin up. Our doctor's don't flock there only some go there but who the fuck cares!! Anyway!! LOL

  • Right... Sorry you think I'm a dickhead because anyone who wants the best medical care in the world travels to the states. Top Canadian doctors try to practice in the US and are trained here. You have lots of ppl from other countries train in Canada IF they fail to get into a US school. It's their 2nd choice and thats a fact. Regardless, you certainly have more uniform access to your 2nd rate care. That is something i guess.

  • The only reason are doctor's will ever go to the states is if they are offered a job that pays more. So you are right there doctor's get paid more in the U.S.A. It has nothing to do with better care we have all the same medical euipment as you do in the states so get your head out of your ass. Canadians are living longer than americans on the average there has to be a reason for it. It's simple our medical care is better now stop argiung with me about this or i will throw Maple Syrup at you.

  • It's actually not simple, at all. You are confusing availability/uniform access to care with quality of care. They are not the same. I actually don't think that care in Canada is bad... However, just because everyone has access to something doesn't mean the quality of what they are accessing is higher or better. Just like any other industry, the best get paid the most here. Most of the top Canadians practice here. I like maple syrup so throw away.

  • Same medical equipment? Except Canada has 4.6 MRI scanners per million ppl while the US has 19.5. Hopefully you don't need to wait 18 weeks while a metastisizing tumor spreads and becomes inoperable. Radiodiag is pretty basic for almost everything these days and Canada had an even more severe shortage of CT/MRI scans in the past. It only took 10+ years to fix that. Why? Bc no one had a profit incentive to fill the void and govt central planners are ALWAYS slow to react.

  • Dude my father got luekemia at age 49 years old which is cancer of the blood. He not only was in and out of the hospital for three years in downtown toronto. He didn't pay one penny they paid for his bone marrow tansplant and all the chemo he went through for free dude. In the states my father wouldn't have survived his cancer his hospital bills would have been over 500,000 thousand dollars. Instead it cost him nothing we didn't see one single bill not one. Keep your insurance card buddy!

  • Ha, cool man. The thing is, just bc your father didn't get a bill doesn't mean he and other people didn't pay for it. It wasn't free. Do you think a bunch of other people are obligated to pay for your fathers healthcare? Because they did, and they didn't have a choice. By the same token everyone might as well give every dime they earn to the Canadian government and let them provide you with housing and food too. Since the govt knows best right?

  • I'm not tryin to rain on your canadian healthcare parade. Its just not perfect and the US system isn't nearly as bad as you think. Pros and cons. Just wait until the next big tech is developed (in the US no doubt) and watch while it takes Canada a decade to catch up while its use is routine in the states. Its really in your best interest for US healthcare to remain unsocialized so you can continue to benefit from US research, tech, new drugs, and tx development.

  • I just can't understand why you think the united states comes out with all the technology when you don't. We have lots of medical researches here. Remember we invented insulin for diabetics, canadians invented the new aids drug that prolongs your life so not everything is invented or came out in the u.s. etc.etc. list goes on and on alot of country's have contributed to medical advances around the world not just untied states. Anyway i am done arguing i agree there is pros and cons to each.

  • thts because you can make more money in the U.S than any other country as a doctor. but in canada you just feel good about your self

  • Most people don't practice to feel good about themselves and you can't pay your bill in warm fuzzies. It's just another service industry. If they just want to just feel good about themselves they would skip the xtra 6+ years of school and become a social worker or a nurse.

  • Frank - Do you honestly feel that if you were diagnosed with a disease which you couldn't afford to pay for the treatments for that you would not like this system? I feel that it's extremely fair when compared to other national systems we have, look at social security, probably the most flawed program that's ever been approved in the United States. I don't mind paying taxes so that you're covered just the same as I am if either of us were to be diagnosed with cancer. We have to do something.

  • You know NOTHING about the Canadian system, yet you and the other brainwashed, warmongering, neoconservative, chickenhawk Keyboard Kommando sheeple mouth off as if you live in Canada and know what's going on. You all know NOTHING except what your bums and your genitals do when they have to do it-nothing less or more than that.

  • neville, you talk a lot about what the rest of us don't know but I haven't read anything about what you know. Funny how that works.

    For instance do you know the difference between rights & needs?

    Do you know the fundamental definition of servitude?

    Here's what I know. Rights are given to us all by God, & our govt's role is to protect them.

    Health care is a need, not a right, because it costs $.

    Forcing some to pay for the needs of others is servitude. Care to refute that logically?

  • Servitude or cooperation? Its relative, on one side(you) egoist versus...well...Christiannity.

  • absentiae, there's nothing at all Christian about forcing some to work to provide the needs of others.

    If you think you can justify that, you'll be far ahead of every other liberal in the world.

    Cooperation you say? That requires choice. Govt taking earnings, removes choice.

    Liberalism = servitude. Liberalism = tyranny. Liberalism = heartless. Liberalism = opposite of US Founding Principles. lol need I go on?

  • Well I'm a Nietzsche reader and a Canadian, so I would agree based on my philosophy, and not care based on my geographical position. But, heartless those who seek to help people get cured? how is it so bad to lose a bit of money? and the choice is to live in a democratic society. We both live in country where the basis is that we are all equals, that not being the case and burning people being illegal now, the only way to make it happen is by cooperation. If only for optimisation its good...

  • If you choose to give up your own earnings to help others, excellent, and generous. Truly Christian and moral.

    If you force someone else to give up their earnings then thats literally servitude. It's wrong and inexcusable. And yes, heartless. It's what liberalism is based on.

    Equality means our equal rights, not equal outcomes, ability, wealth, or earnings.

    Coorperation requires choice. Can't dress up tyranny with words like equality and cooperation.

  • Your comment about equal rights could not be more true. Truly, again, I am not Christian! The Nietzsche reference was an understatement of that, but still how can you not realise how every existence is ephemeral? how is you making more money while people die a good step for a better futur? well you could contribute to the extention of millions of lives. Again, if you think of letting the poor die to make society better without them, then maybe. But you only want a bigger television.

  • absentiae, you're implying that no one should make more money than someone else, or while one person dies of having too little, it's wrong for some to make more money.

    This implies you think it's ok to take the earnings of the productive to have govt give it to the unproductive. That's called servitude and I challenge you to characterize it in any other way.

    Libs use words like "charity" and "care for the poor" but in fact their means of "caring" is tyranny. Servitude. Slavery.

    No thanks.

  • @sailcats77 Poor people aren't unproductive moron! Maybe they don't earn as much as you do, but how can they without proper education! Just because they were born in to a fucked up, poor lifestyle doesn't mean that they are lazy people and that they don't deserve to be cured when they're sick.

  • @stratocod

    Actually stratocod, if by "productive" we agree that we mean "economically productive", I'd say it's a given that the poor are by definition less "productive" than the wealthy. Of course a lot of people don't care, and put their energy on other things like family, friends, hobbies, etc, which is awesome. I'm just saying that someone being poor doesn't entitle them to the forced redistribution of what others have earned. Chill.

  • @sailcats77 I should probably calm down a bit... and I'm not suggesting that the poor are entitled to complete forced redistribution... but I'm suggesting that we should attempt to provide them with better opportunities for success than they are given. I don't see how the rich are ENTITLED to a greater opportunity for success simply due to hereditary luck.

  • @stratocod

    IMHO, we all have various gifts, abilities, amounts of knowledge, hurdles and handicaps. It's just the nature of things. So it makes perfect sense that all different people will perform better or worse at everything. Some will love their families the most, some will make hundreds of true friends, some will find true happiness within themselves alone, and some will become rich beyond measure. Regardless of the type, none have the right to fruits of others' labors by force.

  • absentiae, yes every producer could contribute to the charity of others. That's true, so long as they choose to do it with their own resources.

    As soon as govt or you or libs in general, FORCE the earnings of produces to be taken from them and given to the non-producers, it's no longer charity. It's servitude.

    And you know it. Yet you advocate doing it anyway.

    That means YOU are in favor of servitude.

    Conservatives are far more generous than libs with their OWN money. Libs use other's $.

  • wow, i know that all of your sistems have flaws but, well at least you get attended, here in Mexico you have to wait like...... well alot.xD

    but no for any emergency!!! no!!!

    it takes weeks!! to get a simple flu medication!

    and the best part its that now the people working in the "IMSS" (helthcare) make pirate meds!! WTF?!?!

    i just hate this...

  • Bill O'Reilly RA idiot

  • ah sicko's ...glad theyre on the TV. Whew.

  • i love micheal moore

    but let me just tell you,personaly i know the medicare and hospitals inUSA is 1000 times better the canada

    i was in a car accident US on my home.i was somewhat near the canadian border,had my family,i was the only one with serious damage,so we decided to not go to hospital in the US..

    came home went to our canadian hospital,waited 10hrs the first day to see a doc,14hrs the next,and 12hrs the last time

    a man died in the waiting room after 20hrs of waiting,its sad!

  • Yes, wait times suck. Unfortunately, we are still living with the cutbacks instituted by the Mulroney government in the early 90s.

    I don't know what province you're in, but if you're in a province that uses triage to determine who gets to see the doctor first, you have to understand that emergency rooms are for *serious* cases -- you probably could have gone to a doctor's office for treatment and seen a doctor faster.