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  • Thanks! I'll do that.

  • @stationmaster12 Sure, lemme know if you have any trouble finding another decoder to fit.

  • Hello, Just anted to know what decoder did you use on the SD40. I have that same loco and I'm havine trouble locating a decoder for it. Thanks!!

  • @stationmaster12 I used a Digitrax DCC decoder that is no longer made. I don't remember the number for it, but I do remember when I bought it, the store I got it from told me they were being discontinued.

    If you look through the book and BLI's website, they usually reccommend a couple different decoders to use. I'm sure you can get a good one from Train Control Systems.

  • sound and look great ! but so did my BLI EMD's . The first one lasted 2 minutes the other 2 hours .. I finnally replaced there decoders with a single loksound running both loco's but that was not without its problems .

  • @firebirdman68 Really, I never had that trouble with mine. Whay was the issue?

  • the first one cooked itself after a couple of min running , just stopped and buzzed . The second was running and sounding great then started jerking on acceleration and decelaration , then all the time . Im on my second loksound decoder and so far so good only time will tell . I would buy BLI again but not for a few years till there more reliable . I have found a few guys having similiar issues . One guy told me the problem is in the motors themselves , not working well with decoders . will see.

  • @firebirdman68 Hmmm, I've never experienced that or heard anything about it. Thanks for the info though.

  • I really like this model from them and I would like to get it but I heard the decoder install is a little tricky.

    How did you find it and how smooth is programing?

  • @kerethan Actually, I didn't have much trouble with the install at all. the programming was a little tricky, but there were some tips on their website. It all has to be done on the main line in ops mode, but once everything was programmed, I haven't touched it and it works great!!! Plus, this was a very good working loco for being so inexpensive.

  • Yeah I have heard some wicked good reviews about it, it sounds amazing and it sounds like it performs the same. Only problem is its not just the cost of the loco, everything else adds up too! Oh well, gotta pay to play I spose!

    Thanks for the info, very much appreciated.

  • @kerethan Yeah, no worries. It does add up, but its cheaper than the DCC loco's. Check out factorydirecttrains(.)com

  • i loved the americain train i will by a long train to realised a Ho biggust environnement in 11 metres carré

  • Sounds cool!

  • I have the same sd-40, with the same numbers! do you ever have decoder problems with your engine?

  • No, actually I've never had any problems with this loco. I have the Digitrax decoder that BLI suggested, installed in this loco, what about you?

    I actually had more issues with my AC6000 BlueLine loco, but ever since I programmed it I haven't had any issues with that loco either.

  • I was just asking because i got my engine, the hobby store programed it, and while it was on the test track the motor and sound decoder blew completely all of a sudden. It couldnt have been a track power surge? Ive also asked around my hobby club and people say broadway limited has some "quality issues" lately

  • I can't speak as far as the quality issues, however I do know that programming the BlueLine loco's is tricky. For instance, if you try to just program the loco on a program track, it will only program one of the two decoders and consequently, the loco won't sound or work right.

    You have to program them in "Ops Mode" and then it should all be good. Again, I don't know if this is the problem you're facing, but it was mine. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

  • ive got a few blueline engines. a alco RSD-15 and a USRA heavy mike that should be coming this week. theres a vid of the alco on my channel.

  • Cool! I'll have to check it out!!!

  • nice work. love the horn on the AC6000.

  • Thank you! I have to admit, that horn is one of my favorites too!!!

  • out of question, is it a paragon 2 or a blueline engine?

  • This one is actually the original Paragon series. My union Pacific AC6000 is the BlueLine version.

  • do broadway limited locomotives have DC remotes to control the sounds?

  • Actually they do. If you buy one of the BlueLine locomotives you can get a small controller that will activate the horn and bell and other sounds and lighting functions all on DC.

    They actually have one on their wesite in the "Refurbished Deals" under "Accessories." Its called a "BLI-R1011 BlueLine DC Master" and its $31.99. You might want to think about getting it while its still available.

  • atlas switches???? have you ever had a problem with ur DASH units de-railing on the frogs?? i got one switch that does it and i can't figure out a fix

  • Actually, I've only had a problem with the dummy units. I used to have some problems with one switch, but I traded it to another location and it has worked great since. Maybe you could try switching it to a different location.

  • yeah its great ill post a vid as soon as my camera is fixed (i was talking about the sd 40-2 by the way

  • Sounds cool, I can't wait to see it!!

    Yeah, I figured since I've never seen BNSF on the AC6000. It did catch my attention at first though! LOL!!!

  • hey cool i just got one in bnsf colors

  • Sweet!!! What do you think about it?

    I really like it with the random change in the pitch of the horn.

  • Its a AC6000 NOT A AC4400!!.

  • Which loco are you talking about?

    The Union Pacific IS an AC4400 (made by Kato), not an AC6000. The CSX is an AC6000 made by Broadway Limited.

    All of this is in the narrative.

  • I Thought he said the Csx!!.

  • Gotcha, I thought you were trying to correct me or something.

    Thanks!!!!

  • Where did u get those 2 tankers on the AC6000?

  • I'm pretty sure I got them from Arnie's Trains in Westminister, CA. I believe they are Atlas cars that they used to have on their big layout, and when the got rid of the layout to add shelves, they sold most of their rolling stock.

  • well they are nice but They look Like athearn Clurry slay tanks too me

  • Maybe. They were on the discount table, so they did not come with a box. They have really nice detail to them, so maybe they are the Genesis tankers.

  • i know they are really nice but there are no genesis tankers the walthers goldline tanks are Extremely detailed & nice, i have tried running a atlas tank with my Ac6000 and it always dispatches from the locomotive thats why i dont like Accumate couplers w/ McHenry couplers together.

  • Yeah, that's why I always just trade them out to the Kadee couplers. Unfortunately, I really don't know what the cars are, but I don't think they are Athearn because of how much detail they have. That's why I was thinking Atlas, but they could be Walthers GoldLine. I don't honestly know though.

  • cool

  • yeah i am hoping to switch to dcc soon

  • Oh believe me, once you go to DCC you'll wonder how you ever got along without it before!

  • wow cool video

  • Thanks!!!!

  • cool!,iam getting the same ac6000cw for christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cool! If you have DCC i have all of the CV's that you can address to make the loco run the correct way, make lights flash or not, etc! Let me know and I will be glad to help.

  • What brand is the AC4400?

  • The AC4400 is a Kato model with the Digitrax sound decoder in it.

  • How much about did those cost?

  • Actually the BlueLine loco's were only $120 from Factory Direct Trains (.) com and the shipping was free!

  • What manufacturer are your hoppers?

  • Athearn ready to roll.

  • You will like the RSD-15. You can get it for a real good price at FDTs.The sound is very crisp and loud right out of the box.Having a DC Master is good too for horn and bell.

  • Alright, I'll have to check that out! Thanks for the tip.

  • Blueline is great!Enjoy.Nice video.

  • Agreed! I really love those engines!

  • How do they run? The detail and paint is great!

  • Cool, how do you like it? Atlas is one of the manufacturer's that I don't have, but have been curious to try out!

  • Ha ha, thanks! I think you can still find them on factorydirecttrains. They're the BlueLine type, but they're still really cool!

  • i have a sp ac6000cw same as the csx that model is great with the dc sound ready to go my favourite engine i have kool vid

  • Oh, I love the SP AC6000 too, but I could only afford to buy one, so I got UP.

  • Get the C-420 Phase 1 with sound.Gold Series.

  • I liked both of them, but the horn on the AC6000CW was awesome!

    Great turbo whine on the SD40-2!

    5 stars!

  • Thanks! Yeah I love that horn! The sounds on these trains is awesome!

  • THAT HORN SOUNDS AWESOME LOVE IT

  • Thank you very much!! Which one do you prefer, the SD40-2 or the AC6000CW? Or both!LOL!

  • i want to get 2 of the undecorated blue lines. Do all the horns sound like that at the beginning?

  • They differ for each type of loco, but yeah, I think this is the way all of the SD40-2 loco's horns sound.

  • pwhite73 is mad cool! I give him props!

  • Ha ha! Thanks bud! I only wish I had a layout as big as yours and your fleet to go with it!

  • Awesome!

  • Thanks!

  • is broadway limited blueline expensive?

  • No, actually they're pretty cheap! A loco is about $120 and you can get a decoder for like $30.

  • wow

  • Yeah, just search factory direct trains, and you'll find their site!

  • ya i visited already thank you

  • gosh i wish i had a brother who liked trains. I dont even have a brother

  • Any sisters? And truth be told, my brother isn't nearly as in to trains as I am. He occassionally goes to my friends place and runs trains. I'm the most serious one in my family.

  • yes i have 4 sisters no brothers and i am a boy. 13. ya im the ONLY train person in our family but i have a friend who got huge U-layout from his uncle and i will tape trains on his layout...until... i make m own!!! woo hoo!! may i ask? how old are you?

  • I tried to purchase an AC6000 csx locomtive from broadway but it was on order for over a year so i gave up and bught some atlas dash 8 locos instead

  • Yeah, the date kept getting pushed back further and further, and I thought I'd wait until some showed up in their factory direct outlet store, but no luck and the units were gone and hard to find. So when the BlueLine came out I bought one real quick! But Atlas makes really nice loco's too. Did you get them with sound? What company do you model?

  • I got them both with dcc and sound already installed and I model csx,ns,conrail,up and i have a bit of c&o and b&o

  • Wow, that's quite a selection!! Do you model modern stuff or do you back-date a little? Do you have the widecabs? What size layout do you have?

  • I want one so bad

  • What's that? If it's the trains, they're actually pretty cheap from factory direct trains dot com. You can get the BlueLines from them and then just get a decoder, or you can go to the BLI website and check out their factory direct.

  • yes the Bluelines Engines, My thing that I love about model Railroading is the sounds and the rumble of the engines and cars. So to be able to have that in scale when I finally build my layout would be so awesome!

  • Oh yeah, totally! I had always liked trains, but wasn't really that into modeling them until recently, and quite frankly now that there is sound,...!  Well my vids show it all, I'm addicted and I'm not looking back! LOL!! Anyways, can't wait to see your layout, when you build it, and hear the sounds and the clickity clack! By the way, check out some of my Surfliner vids, and you will see that you can actually turn on that sound too!

  • Thanks a lot for posting this. I've been debating whether to buy a BLI loco, and the BlueLine AC6600 is looking pretty sweet. A lot of people have nit-picked them for some inaccuracies but I think it's pretty minor.

    FYI, there's an interesting article on the web that compares all the currently-available SD40-2's and the author points out problems with each of them. I'd love to see Athearn Genesis do the SD40-2 series, now that they've done the SD45-2's.

  • Whoa, that's cool, what's the website? And no problem. I really like the BLI locomotives, although I did have trouble programming the BlueLine loco's at first, but now BLI posted the programming directions on their website and they work flawlessly!

    I definitely recommend these models to anyone else who's interested.

  • The horn on the SD 40-2 is the one that actually is correct. The horn on the first-run BL AC6000's seems more like an Amtrak horn. I wish BL would correct that on subsequent runs of the AC6000, and offer a replacement module for first run AC6000's. Also the BL SD 40-2s could have operating ditch lights.

  • Yeah, I wish they looked a little more like the modern ones with the ditch lights too, but I guess I could always add them. Have you seen my other vids with my UP AC6000? That one has a different horn, that's pretty unique too. I'm not too familiar with the AC6000 and what horn is common on them.

  • The horn on the SD40-2 doesn't sound "right" to me. Engine sounds are neat tho! Cool locos.

  • Yeah, I'm not very familiar with the SD40-2's or the prototype horns that they used, but I did like that it was very unique when compared to the other more modern horns on my other loco's!

  • Once again going with my earlier comment. I have not really done well with some of the Big Boy videos, but some with the AC6000 I got some better lighting. I still watch your videos and I am beggining to understand lighting and angles.

  • Thanks! Hopefully I'll be making some more here soon. I've been really busy lately, but things seem to be calming down a little. And let me tell you, if you like SoCal trains, you're going to love my comming vids, and if you're not, well you'll still enjoy it because hey, it's still a train!

  • I completly agree. I love to go out railfanning and hope to put some real train videos on Youtube. Hope to see your videos.

  • That should be cool, mine will actually be of models from the Southern California area, but I also like Brian's (BRIANamtrak) vids of the prototype stuff too!

  • Great video! I myself just bought a UNION PACIFIC AC6000 but in the BLUELINE series instaed of the "PARAGON" series. Good Sound and I hope I can do as well in making my videos.

  • That's really cool! The horn on the BlueLine AC6000 is a little different than the Paragon series, and to be honest, I like the BlueLine one more. As far as the vids, if I can do it, I'm sure you can! This video (in fact all of my vids except the "Connequennessing Line") are shot on my home layout that is only a 4'x8' table! Just use tight camera angles! Can't wait to see them!

  • how much was the AC6000 itself?

  • The BlueLine is much cheaper. The CSX AC6000 (shown in this vid) is my brothers and it cost regularly about $250, but we got it from the BLI Factory Direct Store for about $150. The BlueLine you can get from factory firect trains dot com for about $120 plus shipping and handling. Then it's just a $30 or less decoder, a little programming and you're ready to go!

  • whoa i want one of em!! but do you suggest a decoder? do they come with lights?

  • If you have DCC, absolutely get a decoder. If not, you can get another product from Broadway Limited that allows you to control some sounds without DCC, which is still pretty cool. They actually come with a list (or you can find it on their website) that says which decoders fit best and they recommend. Yes, all of the lights and cab interiors come with the model!

  • hoo boy!! but wat is DCC?

  • DCC stands for Digital Command Control. Basically you have a system that sends messages to each specific locomotive (decoder-which is basically a computer chip). You give the locomotive an address (usually easiest to use the number on the loco) and then you tell it what to do; go forward, backward, turn the headlights on, honk the horn, etc! Its really cool, but like I said, it isn't necessary if you have a BLI loco and their programmer. Its a cheaper alternative with some of the features.

  • i have 2 amtrak p40s, BNSF AC4400CW with the new logo, 3 SD-40-2s, 2 SD-45s, a full metra train, some coal hoppers, and an intermodal train.

  • That's awesome! Let me know when you get some vids of them up and I'll be sure to check them out!

  • great vid. i have to start collecting UP and CSX trains more

  • Thank you!  What kind of trains do you have right now?

  • good, cant wait to see it. How big is it?

  • It's only a 4'x8' layout! But one of my friends has a good sized layout in his garage with some extreme detail that I will be sure to make some videos of in the near future. The really cool one was our old club layout that used to be in San Clemente. It was 30'x18'! Now it's in a storage facility waiting to be put back together in my folks house once they retire and build the house. Should be cool!

  • Do you have a private layout? If so, how big is yours? I've also seen some of your vids from your club (which also looks really cool). How big is the club layout?

  • I will do!

    great collection....now you need to make your layout!;)

  • Definitely! I'm in the process of ballasting the whole thing and then it's on to the city and landscaping detail!

  • wow dude! incredible sound, how much did the Union Pacific Loco Cost, the SD unit.

  • It was 119.99 and the shipping was free from factory direct trains dot com! Same price for the AC6000 that I got (UP-of course =)) and my bro's CSX was 149.99 from BLI's factory direct store. The only thing it had that the BlueLine's don't is a factory installed decoder! That's it, the sound is already there! You should check them out!

  • Again, to everyone watching this, I apologize for the "beeping" noise from the controller. My coming videos will be sure not to have that! Thanks again for watching!

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