In response to the top comment, I think Jason Beck was just as original but it was easier for people to copy his style. I like both of them but "neoclassical" only became a big thing in guitar world because of what he did. So both are original, but Lane's amazing technique and style are just way too hard to copy. And I think the "neoclassical" was more approachable and immediately understandable.
In his short life Shawn Lane was able to master all sorts of Western music and then he went over to India and mastered their music. Had he lived there's no telling what other musical styles he would have added to his repertoire.
Shawn was and is the best electric guitar player that ever lived. Ask any of the schredders of today who is better them or Shawn and they will all say the same thing (including Paul Gilbert) Shawn was and still is. Period!
@henryshomebrew Just ask Guthrie Govan who is the better guitarist. He will say Shawn everytime. Just watch this video and you will understand. watch?v=tqYmFk6htyA
@neoclasiccl well i wouldn't like GG half as much if he came out and said "oh, I'm the best". that being said, i was simply stating my opinion. not trying to take anything away from the absolutely amazing shawn lane, GG is just the best bang for my buck. unparalleled phrasing and versatility, again IMO.
@neoclasiccl ps guthrie does not imply that shawn is the best, or even better than anyone else in this video. he just talks about how shawn was a big influence for him, and a great musician.
@tangypasta because your 22, and haven't yet realized that the great players of today built their chops of the monster that have preceded them- gilbert, vanhalen,bratta
I could watch Shawn Lane play 24/7. So much style and finesse to go with all that speed. Maybe one in a billion musicians have all these traits to the extent that he did.
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Suffice to say that Lane was king of speed and technical ability,and to go further,it seemed like he was in 5th gear when he had 6. The other greats mentioned are amazing in their respected ways,that's why they're included in comparison discussions.
After reading every post,this thread certainly qualifies as a no-win for anyone,seriously...Lane is King, i highly doubt any artist mentioned would argue that point, and some have stated as much...good enough for me
Allan Holdsworth was indeed Shawn's idol. And they both do fusion differently, at least to MY ear. Shawn tends to play fast more often. Allan tends to play more unorthodox stuff. HOWEVER: That doesn't mean Shawn can't play stuff that will turn heads, or that Allan will rip your face off with blistering speed. As for BH and PG, he was great friends with both of them. BH was influenced heavily by Lane and vice versa. PG was heavily influenced by Lane, and vice versa. So let's just remember shawn!
Jason had a similar level technique to Shawn did at 16 when Jason was 16, and given the nature of his most recent compositions, I reckon its safe to say he would have been extremely similar to Shawn.
@cerelilqt No, Shawn had a very special technique. Jason Becker was more of a sweep picker player, and was great at that. Both had great skill, but very different technique. But I would still give it to Shawn, much more original.
sounds like crap to me (hey sorry i hate fusion) but holy mother of fucking shit cunt, there aren't enough curse words to describe what i just saw, "insane" doesn't even come close to describe what this man can do on a guitar
@GoodMetalFTW you don't think Shawn could play in any of those styles? Just because BH plays some songs that are in different genres doesn't mean he's great at them. I'm sure he'd admit he's no pro when it comes to playing flamenco, or the blues. he's just messing around in those styles and having fun with it. Shawn could do that too; he just preferred to blend them all and create his own style, as opposed to fitting his tunes into specific genres.
he could probably play most of them, but he never did. also, buckethead hardly ever plays the blues. he does occasionally, and when he does it's good, but he hardly ever plays it so it's hard to tell how good he really is at it.
@otherrandomhero Do you honestly think the first time Cooley grabbed a guitar, at whatever age, he just started to shred? lol come on now...Even freakin Usain Bolt had to crawl at some age right? See if you can figure that out...
@Timmonsec There's really no "Best player in history", that's very much a subjective decision. However, I think it's safe to say that few will ever reach such a prowess of combining speed and beauty that Shawn could.
@garylucero1 lol ya thats what everyone says who cant play fast. It is like saying "Heyyy I have a ferrari but...err..i cant drive it through town because speed limit is 35mph....am gonna have to walk home.." Of course shredders can play slow, silly boy.
@laxdude67 type in "shawn lane tribute" into search. its a tribute video with quotes from the most mental guitarists, including an interview with rusty describing shawns playing as impossible. Love rusty, but cant agree with being better than Shawn. Just my opinion
fail. rusty cooley is excellent, but he is poop compared to shawn lane in every way except for sweeping. his phrasing, technicality, tone, knowledge, originality, speed, versatility etc. is far superior to rusty's. im dead sure rusty would agree that shawn is better. rusty is still amazing though, and i don't intend to diss on him.
Shawn Lane's fast playing is cleaner than Buckethead's. While I love the abstract music of the Bucket, and i pretty well don't give a fuck who is faster, that's my opinion
I swear this guy was put on this planet to punish musicians. I am a musician and an avid fan and listen to Shawn Lane almost every day. Still, I am always blown away.
OMG...I've found the fastest guitar player ever, in fact it's been proven through an experment that Shawn Lane was the fastest guitar player ever at 18 notes per second...wow. It was in the July 2008 issue of Guitar World, by the way.
Lots of people can, though. I'm pretty sure I can, in my own way, but Shawn could play any 18 notes he wanted within any given second in any style or key (and on any guitar.) It's scary stuff.
I would say Shawn was 100% the fastest when how clean it is comes into consideration. I have never heard any other guitarist play at those speeds as clean as Shawn did. His technique was perfect
I love all three of them but none of them play as fast and as clean as Shawn does. I should clear up that I was talking about picking every note. Gilbert isn't as fast but is jsut as clean. Allan is mostly a legato player and Guthrie is pretty damn close but I still don't think he can hit the same speeds as Shawn
hmmm...I dont know lol the big augmented 'alien' type licks he does are all legato alot of the time and they are at insane speeds with insane stretches. Also he had a unique approach of playing arpeggios without actually sweeping..just all hammering without picking on adjacent strings and he did that kind of thing at insane speeds. But then of course both guthrie and allan play some mindblowing shit using legato also.Either way all 3 are/were(RIPShawn)at insane levels lol
gotta agree if ANYBODY comes close to shawn lanes technique and speed it'd be paul gilbert since they used to jam together a lot paul admits that he learned a lot from him
Not really, Paul is about as fast as Buckethead, which i think is around 15 nps with one hand. I think the closest would be rusty cooley, but he really plays crap.
Rusty cooley is definitly one of"those tasteless shredders..." but my god, he CAN play!
I don't think you can have an arguement about the fastest guitarists without mentioning bumblefoot, diego tella vega and the guy in the video called something like worlds fastest shredding...
Also, just looked up seal lane because I want to get a vigier guitar... and needless to say, I am dragging my jaw off the floor right now
true true that's what makes all the big "shredders" unique in their own aspects shawn lane for instance was known for his wide intervals and incredible speed. paul gilbert is known for string skipping and the list goes on. i'd say none at least technique wise compare to shawn lane. there are guys who can tackle playing as fast as shawn but none that i've heard at least can compose anywhere near as good as he did.
Buckethead's composition skills in my opinion are far superior. He is able to put together licks from every genre and with either beautiful melodys or wierd robot like electronic feels. Lane seems to be stuck in the 80's power ballad feel most of the time.
i don't deny buckethead is a versatile guitarist but shawn lane was revolutionary in his time and today even he's still recognized as one of the most terrifying guitarists who's ever lived. some have compared him to mozart and that's much bigger than being compared to say hendrix or something. bucketheads tapping and stuff i will not deny is incredibly talented but shawn lane's playing back in the 80s was far beyond what buckethead can do today i'm certain of that of course that's my opinion
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You gotta be fuckin kidding me man, no one compared Shawn Lanes shitty ass 80's ballads to mozart, get real. Also, Lane was around bucketheads skill when they were alive, buckethead is just getting better though. To say that shawn played better than BigB does now back in the 80's is retarded.
i disagree and so would a lot of people not out of respect because he's dead like you might think but dudes like michael angelo batio rusty cooley paul gilbert buckethead and many others consider shawn lane to be the greatest guitarist who they've ever come in contact with hell steve vai stopped playing in the middle of a show just to record shawn playing he was that blown away
lol you obviously havnt heard much shawn lane. 80s power ballads?! :0
I love BH but technique wise he has nothing on Lane. BH himself has said that. Just search "Shawn Lane Guitar and Drum Solo" and you'll see. And search "Aga of the Ladies" and then tell me how limited Shawn was. Honestly limited in style is one of the most inaccurate descriptions of Lane you could ever give. Between his solo albums and his work with Jonas Hellborg he showed immense versitility. His improv's are way beyond BH.
ever heard his vinikryam brother stuff? def not power ballad. most of his music other than his solo albums are jazz fusion psychedelic indian sounds.... amazing player
Buckethead's one of my favs. He has some great tunes. But there's no question that Shawn Lane's technique (speed and note/tone shaping) was far superior. Buckethead was humbled by him and i think quoted as saying something like "He's the best, but more importantly a good person". As far as music is concerned, that's completely subjective. It took me a while to get into some of Shawn's stuff, but his melodies have come to be some of the most beautiful and creative i've ever heard.
How is their no question in this, Buckethead is just as fast if not faster if you count his 8 finger nubbing and is completely flawless as Lane was, so please tell me how Lane is far superior? And yeah BH idolized Lane, he is a great guitarist, and he's not gonna say that he's better than his idol.
notes per second is such a useless/silly statistic when it comes to guitar or music. That being said i believe someone did a note per second study and buckethead was way down on the list (something like 13-14 nps? still absurdly fast). You can easily find no-name players on youtube who are equally as fast.
at the end of the day, speed isn't what makes bigb or lane appealing to me. My favorite pieces or sections of peices from come from slow(er) moving melodies and phrasing.
Wow somone completely missed the point of my post. He said that technically shawn lane was "far superior" to buckethead, I replied with how? They are just as fast, maybe bh doesn't do legatto as quickly but he's probably the best in the world at 8 finger tapping and some of those runs easily are faster than any legatto Lane did. I agree speed doesn't even matter, but I was responding to him saying that Lane is far superior technically. They are both flawless so it's as very stupid comment.
maybe my argument wasn't very salient. By stating that speed isn't important, i was implying shawn is unquestionably faster at picking and legato (19 NPS vs 15 picked), while attempting not to debase or cheapen buckethead's skill. Lane also employs a tremolo bar for subtle vibratto, bends, and dips. On the more subjective side, i feel lane's note shaping is superior. i can only recommend giving powers of ten (both studio/live) and tritone fasc. many serious listens.
@TheWhocares233 I love them both I dont know why people always argue over this stuff.....Both shawn and buckethead thought each other were incredible guitarist....and good friends. were gona make an album together if you all want to look up "shawn lane talks about buckethead"....also buckethead can play just as fast as shawn lane....and laggato as fast....check out "buckethead solos with primus"....bout 48 seconds in....his laggato is unbelievable as well as shawns
@Crazyguitarman1991 I love them both I dont know why people always argue over this stuff.....Both shawn and buckethead thought each other were incredible guitarist....and good friends. were gona make an album together if you all want to look up "shawn lane talks about buckethead"....also buckethead can play just as fast as shawn lane....and laggato as fast....check out "buckethead solos with primus"....bout 48 seconds in....his laggato is unbelievable as well as shawns
no, shawn is faster. the thing about buckethead is that he sounds super fast, but in terms of actual nps there are much faster. the fact that buckethead can play how fast he does with distractions like a mask on his face, a bucket on his head, and no fret markers is amazing, but shawn lane is faster and more technical. buckethead plays more genres, but shawn has better phrasing, technique, and speed. speed doesn't matter anyways.
How do you come to this conclusion that his "speed and note/tone shaping" was far superior... no question? As I've said before buckethead is just as fast if not fast counting his 8 finger tapping runs... btw.. another technique in tapping that I feel buckethead is clearly better in, but again subjective. As well both of them are completely flawless, so how you come to the conclusion that there is no question lane is far superior is ridiculous to me.
Actually we should be talking about how Shawn Lane came close to Allan Holdsworth. Holdsworth is Shawn Lane's idol. So Shawn Lane would not think himself better than Holdsworth.
that's because he is humble. i don't think anybody except for yngwie malmsteen would ever call themselves the best guitarist in the world. often times people don't know how good they are.
@TheEvilLike The only guitar player that is free frm all the stuff that restrains a guitarist is AH.I think players like Gilbert ,Howe,Govan ..... have trully aknowledged his unique talent.All players that i like and look up too
@zappaelcrappa I'm a huge Shawn Lane fan, but I have to say... Paul's ability to furiously alternate pick those annoying, stretchy and big string skipping licks CLEANLY is amazing. But then again, these guys can't be compared. Mostly because their level of understanding, skill and control they have over that instrument is so far above the clouds we can't even see what's going on.
In response to the top comment, I think Jason Beck was just as original but it was easier for people to copy his style. I like both of them but "neoclassical" only became a big thing in guitar world because of what he did. So both are original, but Lane's amazing technique and style are just way too hard to copy. And I think the "neoclassical" was more approachable and immediately understandable.
GuillermoSmyser 4 weeks ago
Did shawn ever play with holdsworth?
EinSofVirtuoso 1 month ago
THE BEST.. PERIOD..!!!
julianarismendi 2 months ago
Buckethead
Brentypooz 2 months ago
@Brentypooz naaahhh
KOTHVETTE406 1 month ago
@Brentypooz No, it's Shawn Lane :)
pipon55 1 month ago
@pipon55 noo im commenting buckethead to see what people think of him! sorry :D
Brentypooz 1 month ago
In his short life Shawn Lane was able to master all sorts of Western music and then he went over to India and mastered their music. Had he lived there's no telling what other musical styles he would have added to his repertoire.
bordertown 4 months ago
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Fuhgawz102 4 months ago
great player
joeylodes 5 months ago
Shawn was and is the best electric guitar player that ever lived. Ask any of the schredders of today who is better them or Shawn and they will all say the same thing (including Paul Gilbert) Shawn was and still is. Period!
neoclasiccl 5 months ago
@neoclasiccl no way Jose. guthrie govan all day! lol just my opinion
henryshomebrew 4 months ago
@henryshomebrew Just ask Guthrie Govan who is the better guitarist. He will say Shawn everytime. Just watch this video and you will understand. watch?v=tqYmFk6htyA
neoclasiccl 4 months ago
@neoclasiccl well i wouldn't like GG half as much if he came out and said "oh, I'm the best". that being said, i was simply stating my opinion. not trying to take anything away from the absolutely amazing shawn lane, GG is just the best bang for my buck. unparalleled phrasing and versatility, again IMO.
henryshomebrew 4 months ago
@neoclasiccl ps guthrie does not imply that shawn is the best, or even better than anyone else in this video. he just talks about how shawn was a big influence for him, and a great musician.
henryshomebrew 4 months ago
why have I never heard of this guy before? he's amazing!
tangypasta 5 months ago
@tangypasta because your 22, and haven't yet realized that the great players of today built their chops of the monster that have preceded them- gilbert, vanhalen,bratta
toejam498 3 months ago
@toejam498 actually im 16. lol. Just be grateful I don't listen to Bieber + all the modern crap.
tangypasta 3 months ago
@tangypasta haha grateful
toejam498 3 months ago
O_O
144TH0US0ND 6 months ago
I could watch Shawn Lane play 24/7. So much style and finesse to go with all that speed. Maybe one in a billion musicians have all these traits to the extent that he did.
Xanadude575 6 months ago
@Xanadude575
jazz fusion guitarists are the best !!!
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augustmaquet 3 months ago
Suffice to say that Lane was king of speed and technical ability,and to go further,it seemed like he was in 5th gear when he had 6. The other greats mentioned are amazing in their respected ways,that's why they're included in comparison discussions.
After reading every post,this thread certainly qualifies as a no-win for anyone,seriously...Lane is King, i highly doubt any artist mentioned would argue that point, and some have stated as much...good enough for me
ZOMBIELANDakaUSA 7 months ago
Allan Holdsworth was indeed Shawn's idol. And they both do fusion differently, at least to MY ear. Shawn tends to play fast more often. Allan tends to play more unorthodox stuff. HOWEVER: That doesn't mean Shawn can't play stuff that will turn heads, or that Allan will rip your face off with blistering speed. As for BH and PG, he was great friends with both of them. BH was influenced heavily by Lane and vice versa. PG was heavily influenced by Lane, and vice versa. So let's just remember shawn!
JonMayhemGuitar 8 months ago
Little-known fact: each of Shawn Lane's left-hand fingers had it's own brain in its respective knuckle.
mahajohn 8 months ago
i can't help but shit myself :| ....this guy had just proved me that everything is possible
robyra20 8 months ago
Allan Holdsworth > Shawn Lane... Shawn Lane is an amazing guitarist so that should speak volumes.
MrUsedBooks 9 months ago
please don't compare, just enjoy
andres1203ecuador 9 months ago
Shawn Lane > Paul Gilbert... Paul Gilbert is an amazing guitarist so that should speak volumes.
Sivels 10 months ago
doesnt really sound good
pzqlak 10 months ago
needs more technique
toejam498 11 months ago
Jason had a similar level technique to Shawn did at 16 when Jason was 16, and given the nature of his most recent compositions, I reckon its safe to say he would have been extremely similar to Shawn.
cerelilqt 1 year ago
@cerelilqt No, Shawn had a very special technique. Jason Becker was more of a sweep picker player, and was great at that. Both had great skill, but very different technique. But I would still give it to Shawn, much more original.
kranen1 6 months ago 17
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I agree JB is great but SH is a whole new level.
HillaryHitler 3 months ago
sounds like crap to me (hey sorry i hate fusion) but holy mother of fucking shit cunt, there aren't enough curse words to describe what i just saw, "insane" doesn't even come close to describe what this man can do on a guitar
felphero 1 year ago
@felphero
Check out hardcase
Has a riff that many rock/metal bands would've killed for if thats what you're into, and it still maintains lane's style
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djziggurat 10 months ago
@crazyboyxx
okay, i will name some of the genres buckethead plays and you match the amount with genres shawn lane plays.
buckethead: avant-garde, bluegrass, new age, spanish classical, rock, noise rock/noise metal (drone metal), the blues, funk, ambient, and industrial.
GoodMetalFTW 1 year ago
@GoodMetalFTW you don't think Shawn could play in any of those styles? Just because BH plays some songs that are in different genres doesn't mean he's great at them. I'm sure he'd admit he's no pro when it comes to playing flamenco, or the blues. he's just messing around in those styles and having fun with it. Shawn could do that too; he just preferred to blend them all and create his own style, as opposed to fitting his tunes into specific genres.
alspageddi 1 year ago
@alspageddi
he could probably play most of them, but he never did. also, buckethead hardly ever plays the blues. he does occasionally, and when he does it's good, but he hardly ever plays it so it's hard to tell how good he really is at it.
GoodMetalFTW 1 year ago
Shawn Lane and Jason Becker are untouchable...
jimmyleppard6 1 year ago
@otherrandomhero Do you honestly think the first time Cooley grabbed a guitar, at whatever age, he just started to shred? lol come on now...Even freakin Usain Bolt had to crawl at some age right? See if you can figure that out...
SaintsCheat 1 year ago
Does anyone have the balls to say Shawn isnt the best player in history? doubtful...
Timmonsec 1 year ago
@Timmonsec There's really no "Best player in history", that's very much a subjective decision. However, I think it's safe to say that few will ever reach such a prowess of combining speed and beauty that Shawn could.
matrixmonster110 1 year ago
@garylucero1 lol ya thats what everyone says who cant play fast. It is like saying "Heyyy I have a ferrari but...err..i cant drive it through town because speed limit is 35mph....am gonna have to walk home.." Of course shredders can play slow, silly boy.
SaintsCheat 1 year ago
@SaintsCheat Rusty Cooley can't
otherrandomhero 1 year ago
I actually laughed of amazment!
I was like,"Hahaha oh SH*T!! :D"
TheHornet79 1 year ago
cooley>lane
laxdude67 1 year ago
@laxdude67 Cooley's great, but no way man.
TheVandercliff 1 year ago
@laxdude67 type in "shawn lane tribute" into search. its a tribute video with quotes from the most mental guitarists, including an interview with rusty describing shawns playing as impossible. Love rusty, but cant agree with being better than Shawn. Just my opinion
ceriwil 1 year ago
@laxdude67
fail. rusty cooley is excellent, but he is poop compared to shawn lane in every way except for sweeping. his phrasing, technicality, tone, knowledge, originality, speed, versatility etc. is far superior to rusty's. im dead sure rusty would agree that shawn is better. rusty is still amazing though, and i don't intend to diss on him.
GoodMetalFTW 1 year ago
speed is not everything is much more dificult to play very slow with a very very slow tempo
garylucero1 1 year ago
speed is not everything is much more dificult to play very slow
garylucero1 1 year ago
The guy with the bass, look like a pedophile.
SweeetPicker 1 year ago
@SweeetPicker fucking right man
garylucero1 1 year ago
PLEASE COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad ):
SizenTV 1 year ago
The reason why Buckethead is so much like Shawn Lane is because Shawn taught Buckethead how to play guitar for awhile
xNickGovan 1 year ago
Shawn Lane's fast playing is cleaner than Buckethead's. While I love the abstract music of the Bucket, and i pretty well don't give a fuck who is faster, that's my opinion
theupperclassbogan 1 year ago
what song is this?
andrewkadar 1 year ago
Sporty beard, amazing speed and skill.
ArcturusFan 2 years ago
you know what i hate ? when people try to compare buckethead to shawn. STOP IT
mooch666 2 years ago 3
Incredible!!
bradhienzachary 2 years ago
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Only one man had superior technical ability to Shawn....Guthrie Govan
Kingding6 2 years ago
Kingding6, that is blatantly false...
DINOSAURMUSIC69kc 2 years ago
no, its blatantly right
Kingding6 2 years ago
wow, 6 vidoes in a row, an argument about buckethead. Grow up youtube community
nado117 2 years ago 5
i wonder what kind of drugs shawn used to like
im guessing uppers hence is crazy speed...
TangerineGroovin 2 years ago
I used to think some things are impossible...Then I found Shawn Lane
TheWhocares233 2 years ago 39
@TheWhocares233
I know that feeling!
gitarmats 10 months ago
@TheWhocares233 there still impossible cause no one can do them BUT shawn lane.........LOL
vetmusician 4 months ago
my favourite Shawn Lane tune is "Esperanto"
its just perfect
petar870602 2 years ago
I swear this guy was put on this planet to punish musicians. I am a musician and an avid fan and listen to Shawn Lane almost every day. Still, I am always blown away.
BoltThrower2000 2 years ago 6
This is a Lane video. Comment on the God's (Lane) video.
allocava 2 years ago
ugh, everytime i try to watch this, my computer jumps back 30 years in time
shreddingjake 3 years ago 6
he is the hardest play for all time....thats for sure!i didnt have trouble with anyone before..
yngwie,macalpine,petruci,romeo,becker....learned very fast...but Lane is in another cathegory
with al di meola,john mclaughlin,frank gambale!
petar870602 3 years ago
OMG...I've found the fastest guitar player ever, in fact it's been proven through an experment that Shawn Lane was the fastest guitar player ever at 18 notes per second...wow. It was in the July 2008 issue of Guitar World, by the way.
evh5150hawaii 3 years ago
Lots of people can, though. I'm pretty sure I can, in my own way, but Shawn could play any 18 notes he wanted within any given second in any style or key (and on any guitar.) It's scary stuff.
Th1sWasATriumph 3 years ago
He's not the fastest, but he is mega quick, and he can play at 20.5 NPS, at his fastest.
Orbit91 3 years ago
I would say Shawn was 100% the fastest when how clean it is comes into consideration. I have never heard any other guitarist play at those speeds as clean as Shawn did. His technique was perfect
bigandymc12 3 years ago 3
Paul Gilbert is pretty damn close, and Allan and Guthrie are just about equal with Shawn.
Orbit91 3 years ago
I love all three of them but none of them play as fast and as clean as Shawn does. I should clear up that I was talking about picking every note. Gilbert isn't as fast but is jsut as clean. Allan is mostly a legato player and Guthrie is pretty damn close but I still don't think he can hit the same speeds as Shawn
bigandymc12 3 years ago 2
Well, you're certainly right, his alternate picking speed and technique is unmatched,but his Legato is certainly not on Allan or Guthrie's level :P
Orbit91 3 years ago
hmmm...I dont know lol the big augmented 'alien' type licks he does are all legato alot of the time and they are at insane speeds with insane stretches. Also he had a unique approach of playing arpeggios without actually sweeping..just all hammering without picking on adjacent strings and he did that kind of thing at insane speeds. But then of course both guthrie and allan play some mindblowing shit using legato also.Either way all 3 are/were(RIPShawn)at insane levels lol
bigandymc12 3 years ago
I totally agree.
Orbit91 3 years ago
gotta agree if ANYBODY comes close to shawn lanes technique and speed it'd be paul gilbert since they used to jam together a lot paul admits that he learned a lot from him
brandon5pennies 3 years ago
Not really, Paul is about as fast as Buckethead, which i think is around 15 nps with one hand. I think the closest would be rusty cooley, but he really plays crap.
snyggman 3 years ago
FINALLY...some normal person that thinks that rusty guy playes a bunch of crap!
he is clean and he is fast but god danm it he playes some shit that i cant see the sense in it
petar870602 3 years ago 3
Rusty cooley is definitly one of"those tasteless shredders..." but my god, he CAN play!
I don't think you can have an arguement about the fastest guitarists without mentioning bumblefoot, diego tella vega and the guy in the video called something like worlds fastest shredding...
Also, just looked up seal lane because I want to get a vigier guitar... and needless to say, I am dragging my jaw off the floor right now
ibanezbloke 3 years ago 2
Paul Gilbert dont come close
zappaelcrappa 2 years ago 42
LOL!!!!
Woodeewoo12345 2 years ago
agreed but considering shawn is gone now rip paul gilbert is probably best we have left :(
brandon5pennies 2 years ago 2
PG is not better than anyone hes just has his own style. I dont think you can compare musicians thats just my opinion
zappaelcrappa 2 years ago 9
true true that's what makes all the big "shredders" unique in their own aspects shawn lane for instance was known for his wide intervals and incredible speed. paul gilbert is known for string skipping and the list goes on. i'd say none at least technique wise compare to shawn lane. there are guys who can tackle playing as fast as shawn but none that i've heard at least can compose anywhere near as good as he did.
brandon5pennies 2 years ago
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Buckethead's composition skills in my opinion are far superior. He is able to put together licks from every genre and with either beautiful melodys or wierd robot like electronic feels. Lane seems to be stuck in the 80's power ballad feel most of the time.
Gigglebooster 2 years ago
i don't deny buckethead is a versatile guitarist but shawn lane was revolutionary in his time and today even he's still recognized as one of the most terrifying guitarists who's ever lived. some have compared him to mozart and that's much bigger than being compared to say hendrix or something. bucketheads tapping and stuff i will not deny is incredibly talented but shawn lane's playing back in the 80s was far beyond what buckethead can do today i'm certain of that of course that's my opinion
brandon5pennies 2 years ago
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You gotta be fuckin kidding me man, no one compared Shawn Lanes shitty ass 80's ballads to mozart, get real. Also, Lane was around bucketheads skill when they were alive, buckethead is just getting better though. To say that shawn played better than BigB does now back in the 80's is retarded.
Gigglebooster 2 years ago
i disagree and so would a lot of people not out of respect because he's dead like you might think but dudes like michael angelo batio rusty cooley paul gilbert buckethead and many others consider shawn lane to be the greatest guitarist who they've ever come in contact with hell steve vai stopped playing in the middle of a show just to record shawn playing he was that blown away
brandon5pennies 2 years ago 2
lol you obviously havnt heard much shawn lane. 80s power ballads?! :0
I love BH but technique wise he has nothing on Lane. BH himself has said that. Just search "Shawn Lane Guitar and Drum Solo" and you'll see. And search "Aga of the Ladies" and then tell me how limited Shawn was. Honestly limited in style is one of the most inaccurate descriptions of Lane you could ever give. Between his solo albums and his work with Jonas Hellborg he showed immense versitility. His improv's are way beyond BH.
nomis101uk 2 years ago
@Gigglebooster you're an idiot. go take your ignorant arguments to a buckethead video.
mooch666 2 years ago
In fact you'll find an awesome performance of Age if you search "Aga Of The Ladies Excerpt (Shawn Lane)"
nomis101uk 2 years ago
ever heard his vinikryam brother stuff? def not power ballad. most of his music other than his solo albums are jazz fusion psychedelic indian sounds.... amazing player
sux0rz 2 years ago
@Gigglebooster
Buckethead's one of my favs. He has some great tunes. But there's no question that Shawn Lane's technique (speed and note/tone shaping) was far superior. Buckethead was humbled by him and i think quoted as saying something like "He's the best, but more importantly a good person". As far as music is concerned, that's completely subjective. It took me a while to get into some of Shawn's stuff, but his melodies have come to be some of the most beautiful and creative i've ever heard.
DeathZeroTolerance 2 years ago
How is their no question in this, Buckethead is just as fast if not faster if you count his 8 finger nubbing and is completely flawless as Lane was, so please tell me how Lane is far superior? And yeah BH idolized Lane, he is a great guitarist, and he's not gonna say that he's better than his idol.
Gigglebooster 2 years ago
@Gigglebooster
notes per second is such a useless/silly statistic when it comes to guitar or music. That being said i believe someone did a note per second study and buckethead was way down on the list (something like 13-14 nps? still absurdly fast). You can easily find no-name players on youtube who are equally as fast.
at the end of the day, speed isn't what makes bigb or lane appealing to me. My favorite pieces or sections of peices from come from slow(er) moving melodies and phrasing.
DeathZeroTolerance 2 years ago
Wow somone completely missed the point of my post. He said that technically shawn lane was "far superior" to buckethead, I replied with how? They are just as fast, maybe bh doesn't do legatto as quickly but he's probably the best in the world at 8 finger tapping and some of those runs easily are faster than any legatto Lane did. I agree speed doesn't even matter, but I was responding to him saying that Lane is far superior technically. They are both flawless so it's as very stupid comment.
Gigglebooster 2 years ago
@Gigglebooster
maybe my argument wasn't very salient. By stating that speed isn't important, i was implying shawn is unquestionably faster at picking and legato (19 NPS vs 15 picked), while attempting not to debase or cheapen buckethead's skill. Lane also employs a tremolo bar for subtle vibratto, bends, and dips. On the more subjective side, i feel lane's note shaping is superior. i can only recommend giving powers of ten (both studio/live) and tritone fasc. many serious listens.
DeathZeroTolerance 2 years ago
@DeathZeroTolerance Don't mind giggle booster he trolls videos all the time he is like a bug than you can't seem to find and you want to kill it.
TheWhocares233 1 year ago
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@TheWhocares233 I love them both I dont know why people always argue over this stuff.....Both shawn and buckethead thought each other were incredible guitarist....and good friends. were gona make an album together if you all want to look up "shawn lane talks about buckethead"....also buckethead can play just as fast as shawn lane....and laggato as fast....check out "buckethead solos with primus"....bout 48 seconds in....his laggato is unbelievable as well as shawns
silkstringz 1 year ago
@Gigglebooster
ive seen better at 8 finger tapping, notably dave celentano, adam fulara and a couple others
im not taking anything away from buckethead though
eleph4nt 1 year ago 2
@eleph4nt
silkstringz 1 year ago
@Gigglebooster
If you think buckethead is as fast as shawn lane then you havent heard enough of either of them my friend.
Crazyguitarman1991 1 year ago
@Crazyguitarman1991 I love them both I dont know why people always argue over this stuff.....Both shawn and buckethead thought each other were incredible guitarist....and good friends. were gona make an album together if you all want to look up "shawn lane talks about buckethead"....also buckethead can play just as fast as shawn lane....and laggato as fast....check out "buckethead solos with primus"....bout 48 seconds in....his laggato is unbelievable as well as shawns
silkstringz 1 year ago
@silkstringz
no, shawn is faster. the thing about buckethead is that he sounds super fast, but in terms of actual nps there are much faster. the fact that buckethead can play how fast he does with distractions like a mask on his face, a bucket on his head, and no fret markers is amazing, but shawn lane is faster and more technical. buckethead plays more genres, but shawn has better phrasing, technique, and speed. speed doesn't matter anyways.
GoodMetalFTW 1 year ago
How do you come to this conclusion that his "speed and note/tone shaping" was far superior... no question? As I've said before buckethead is just as fast if not fast counting his 8 finger tapping runs... btw.. another technique in tapping that I feel buckethead is clearly better in, but again subjective. As well both of them are completely flawless, so how you come to the conclusion that there is no question lane is far superior is ridiculous to me.
Gigglebooster 2 years ago
@DeathZeroTolerance
well said
TangerineGroovin 1 year ago
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ZOMBIELANDakaUSA 7 months ago
I just don't think you should compare good musicians. Just enjoy them.
Tommunist07 2 years ago 3
great point !
zappaelcrappa 2 years ago 2
doesn't
nomad434 2 years ago
@zappaelcrappa
nobody comes close, except Allan Holdsworth
jmulma 1 year ago
@jmulma lol speed wise allan holdsworths got nothing on him.
stitcha123 1 year ago
@jmulma
Actually we should be talking about how Shawn Lane came close to Allan Holdsworth. Holdsworth is Shawn Lane's idol. So Shawn Lane would not think himself better than Holdsworth.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
@shadowknight132 but in reality he was, at least I liked his music better than Holdsworth's.
Kingding6 1 year ago
@shadowknight132
that's because he is humble. i don't think anybody except for yngwie malmsteen would ever call themselves the best guitarist in the world. often times people don't know how good they are.
GoodMetalFTW 1 year ago
@zappaelcrappa Nobody comes close to that
fenderoid1111 1 year ago
@fenderoid1111 oh come on, not even close? Thats an unsinn
TheEvilLike 1 year ago
@TheEvilLike The only guitar player that is free frm all the stuff that restrains a guitarist is AH.I think players like Gilbert ,Howe,Govan ..... have trully aknowledged his unique talent.All players that i like and look up too
fenderoid1111 1 year ago
@zappaelcrappa
They were buds. Paul said, Shawn was the most terrifying guitarist ever
Paul however does indeed "come close" ;-)
lordsong7 10 months ago
@zappaelcrappa
no one comes close. but paul is great
las10plagas 10 months ago
@zappaelcrappa I'm a huge Shawn Lane fan, but I have to say... Paul's ability to furiously alternate pick those annoying, stretchy and big string skipping licks CLEANLY is amazing. But then again, these guys can't be compared. Mostly because their level of understanding, skill and control they have over that instrument is so far above the clouds we can't even see what's going on.
Buttanick 6 months ago
@zappaelcrappa doesn't*
seth3556r 5 months ago
personaly....i dont think anyone in this planet can play the sick lick video....you 100% have seen it
legato and picking string skiping diminished and augmented..
petar870602 3 years ago
20.5? How does one play half a note?
YngtchieMusic 3 years ago
I guess he was sloppy O_O
Orbit91 3 years ago
he didn't quite finish the note in one second.
ZeppelinRules 3 years ago
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RozarSmacco 3 years ago
hahaha thats funny bog.
opticallusion 3 years ago
lol, the irony of the last COMMENT.
deathbog0007 3 years ago
no comment.....incredible!!!!!
davidlocatelli 3 years ago