The only way this whole video could be made better would be if there were a transition from the adaptation of the "Parrot Sketch" to the adaptation of the "Lumberjack Song".
@Strangerinasland intelligently designed by an infallible omniscient omnipotent being... please, ppl like you have to bend over backwards to make sense of this garbage
..............It peirces the darkness and at great expense to Himself, God pulls us out of evil and darkness and all the related destruction and pain.
But for those tht refuse to believe, they become the black backdrop to make His love and grace shine even brighter.
Nah its an awesome plan, for in order to make us fall in love with God, He had to show us the other siset us up to fail in the first place de, the darkside. Then he demonstrates his love by pulling us out of it after we rejected Him for stupid stuff. So we see how undeserving we are of His love and how his love doesnt care about that.............
Not because he ate the fruit but bc he rejected God. He believed that the creation was better than the creator(which is illogical BTW) and he acted accordingly. Now all people do the same thing. No one goes to hell that doesnt want to go to hell. Most have their own idea of heaven(self will and self glory) and that is really hell . SO they want hell bc they want self will and
@j919or You saying something is illogical is like an ant thinking it understands physics. You are so full of fear & hate & selfloathing, you do not have a clue about reality. No sane person wants to be tortured for eternity. No sane person wants anyone else to be tortured for eternity. No 1 who is mentally fit to decide chooses to be tortured. STOP spewing hate & lies.
I've needed glasses since I was 6 years old. But it wasn't until 2 years later that my parents finally had my eyes checked, after countless complaints from my teachers that I couldn't see a thing written on the chalkboard. My eyes are definitely not intelligently designed.
Wrong wrong wrong! The human eye is a PERFECT example of creation! Hold on, gotta put my glasses on so I can read my bible. Without those I can't see the words.
The backwards photocells, blood vessels and nerves stop UV radiation. If they were forward-facing, as on an a cephalopod, we would all get cataracts at age 40. The appendix harbors helpful bacteria, which, although not necessary for survival, sure do help. How could all that compensation mechanism evolve? Mutations don't add new information, and even if they did natural selection would not favour those organisms, since a tiny change like that would not give any survival advantage.
@Dinoenthusiastguy Can you explain why I needed glasses at the age of 12(-) due to my eye sight being blurred? God couldn't make them last at least 40 years without everything becoming a blur(with exception to objects closer than 3 inches)?
@Dinoenthusiastguy Could you also be so kind as to answer that same question to the hundreds of millions-billions of other people who need glasses to fix their vision?
@TheStarvingSamurai I don't think that was a problem with the original human design. However, I think that after the flood event about 4,000 years ago, since only two of each species were saved (except for a few) there was a genetic bottleneck which caused problems such as vision blurring. There is nothing inherently wrong in the design, it's just messed up, more delicate, and doesn't last as long as it did before the bottleneck.
@Dinoenthusiastguy Oh yea! Forgot he wanted to punish the majority of people who were never even born! Why wait til they start doing bad stuff when you can punish them starting when they are kids :D again! Genius!!
Human eyes is actually an argument for religion? They're grasping at straws. Poor, simple fools. Basing it on the Monty Python sketch "Dead Parrot" was brilliant! XD
3550 people like this video and only 75 understand the error of it. Statistically speaking...according to the BIBLE...those odds are about right for the population as a whole.
@Gonnakillyou ....“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are MANY WHO GO IN by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW WHO FIND IT.
i thought i recognized a bit of the "dead parrot sketch" in this cartoon!! and then at the end, the giant foot confirmed it, before i noticed the credit given to monty python. though i guess the title should've been a tip off as well...
However an upside-down image is still technically a flaw - our brains do our image processing for both our eyes and combine the images and flip them the right way. Babies learning to see and coordinate probably see things upside-down at first. Also if reversing lenses are worn which flip things, after a while our brains flip the image back. When the glasses are removed our normal vision is now upside-down. A 'perfect design' would immediately flip back, but our brains take several hours.
From some of the comments it seems we're getting 'back to front' mixed up with 'upside-down'. The light sensitive cells have wiring 'pupil-side' rather than brain side, and the eye is back to front. Hence blindspot to get wires through. Dumb 'design'. Upside-down image is separate issue - is corrected by brain software. Could be corrected with another lens, but that is inefficient. So probably best that can be expected.
An inverted image on the retina is actually wonderful. It simplifies the lens enormously *and* leads to higher quality images. It is an example of *good* design, not bad design. Man made cameras work that way. I can't imagine it any other way, whether it be designed (like a camera) or not (as a process of evolution). I don't get why camera designers and nature both get chastised for doing it this way.
@goldenrebel1st "I can't imagine it any other way" - and therefore it's the best possible? You can't imagine it another way because you haven't tried. Look at the cephalapod eyes to begin with. Scientists agree that they are without a doubt the best eyes on the planet, superior even to those of an eagle.
@NonStampCollector I was referring to the inverted image on the retina. The Cephalopod eye also has an inverted image. My argument is that that an inverted image is not an example of bad design.
However, I might suggest that an infinitely powerful being capable of doing absolutely anything he wanted wouldn't necessarily need to do it that way, and it is certainly interesting that if it is designed, it is designed in exactly the way we would expect if it were NOT designed. !!
As for the rest of the design faults... surely you wouldn't argue that they're the work of an intelligent designer? The retina I'll give you, but a blind spot?
@NonStampCollector Your video is excellent. I would not argue that the eye is the work of an intelligent designer. I only had pause for that specific (inverted image) argument only and was itching to point it out.
@NonStampCollector What? You recognize the fact that there's a blind spot but do not note that your brain geniously fills in what your eye cannot inform? In my humble opinion, you can't take bits and pieces of the body and say "Look! There! Right there and only there! See, there's not an intelligent designer." Plus, Wouldn't the intelligent designer of the human eye be the same of the cephalopod eye? I'm not following your logic.
@MrRindercella I think the point is that if a creator made eyes, all creatures would have the same ultimate good eye. Why would god give us a lesser eye than animals?
Just design the perfect eye and use for all your creatures?
@VonVladimierVoltar Well sure, but where's the creativity in that? And that argument could be taken to the extreme; why didn't God make everyone a Michael Jordan/Einstein/Socrates? I think it's more awe-inspiring that the same organ can be made different ways. And some very well may be "better than others," but it's not like our eyes don't get the job done. We don't need a perfect eye.
@MrRindercella OK, you have a little daughter you love VERY MUCH. It is your turn Xmass to hand out presents. So you give to the dog a Playstation 3 and to your daughter a Playstation 2, because she does not need a Playstation 3. You actually bought a 2 for her just to be creative.
Our enjoyment of food is a fraction of most mammals because our sense of smell is so bad. Thanks God!
We are more than 100x likely to get food poisoning than a vulture... thanks DADDY for my 2nd rate immune system
@VonVladimierVoltar Your arguments are taken well, but I'm going to ask you the same philosophical question I did to TheMatrix398 - Why are we here at all then? Why is there a daddy, a daughter, a dog. Why is there anything living at all?
@MrRindercella You make a mistake all the Kalam philosophers are making. You are confusing the words 'cause' and 'reason'.
The universe had a cause to exist... modern science point to the big bang, or some kind of creation event. This does not meat it had a reason to exist (ie to glorify god etc). It could be for some other reason or no reason at all.
An asteroid does not exist to give your life reason, or to glorify god. It just exist as a by-product of the big bang. It has no reason.
@VonVladimierVoltar I never mentioned God, I wished to be purely philosophical, but if you are okay with the idea of God, then your argument becomes futile. For how in the world can you say that something created out of nothing cannot glorify the maker? If God made the universe and everything in it, that would bring immense glory to himself. But beside the point of reason, I wish to come back to the idea of cause. The problem I see with the Big Bang theory is that it assumes material ... (cont)
@VonVladimierVoltar (cont) for the creation of material. Ths Pre-Biotic soup has to be made up of matter, but where did that initial matter come from? I don't have a problem with The Big Bang theory IF there was a causer. That causer being completely independent of the event occuring. I ask you, what are the ramifications of any creation story if there is not that initial causer? For it seems to me that to believe any causation without a causer is absurdity.
@MrRindercella You are absolutely right. There must have been a causer, however, the causer do not have to be intelligent. It could be just a natural process. You could say that natural process is 'GOD'. But we have no proove. That is why I am agnostic, not atheist.
Ofcourse the creation COULD glorify the creator, if he exists. The SCIENCE behind the big bang and what we still do not know is fascinating.
What is the causer is the biggest question facing science today.
@MrRindercella This is the biggest fallacy creationists make about science:
"Something (the universe) was created out of nothing (the big bang)"
This is not true. BB theory can not explain the very first timesteps of creation, and it does not claim to do so. It is however very good at explaining what happens 1/1000 000 of a second later till today.
What happens right at point zero, and what caused the BB we do not know.
Because we dont know, we shouldnt say "God did it" without any proove.
@VonVladimierVoltar I admire your line of thinking, but I'm still unsettled with the idea. And first I want to point out that I do believe creationists have proof for their belief, namely that the text they believe in has been found infallable for centuries and millenia, and their text says that God did create the world. This notion has not been disproved, as you said, the causer could be God, and thus it is a reasonable belief. However, I do wish to reach a logical conclusion, so I will throw
@MrRindercella You are unsettled because you want to go to heaven... I was also there, you have my sympathies.
Infallable Bible: The morally corrupt book that support slavery? That order the death of disobedient teens, that killed a bunch of small children through a bear because they laughed at a Priest? Genocided most of Palestine? Error ridden: four legged insects, 6000 yr old earth, earth older than the stars, Jesus believing epilepsy (a medical condition) is caused by demons? etc, etc,
@VonVladimierVoltar all presuppositions aside. Back to the Big Bang. Evolution and the Big Bang I do not think are very good at explaining what has occured to reach a point of where we are today. Assuming that there was in fact a causer, to my knowledge, there still has been no scientific experiment conducted in which inanimate matter (that is proteins and the parts of a cell) have come together unasisted to form animate matter. How do you deal with this? That the belief has not been proven.
@MrRindercella Big Bang Theory, except the first second has been verified and validated extensively.
Evolution, except abiogenesis, have been v&v extensively.
Abiogenesis has very a good hypotheses, although not completely proven. We have PROVEN that amino acids can form randomly in ancient geothermal water. We have not proven the next step yet, formation of proteins and RNA. but we are working on it.
Religions on the other hand has highly flawed texts with huge errors, which fail basic v&v.
@NonStampCollector Ugh, that's like the vestigial rear limbs creationist argument for whales...
B-b-but without the rear leg bones, the whales couldn't copulate!!!
It's like they can't recognize a bad design if they see it, they can only imagine things the way they are NOW. I wonder what sort of creative arguments they have for the appendix and wisdom teeth.
@nolordsnomasters Have you ever tried to sit down with a broken tailbone? It's very painful, unless you lean forward all the time, since the tailbone is one of the supports in the tripod-like structure of your duff. It also acts as an anchor to the several muscles, without which it would be impossible to, well, do your business. The tailbone is far from useless.
@goldenrebel1st The argument is not that the image forms on the retina upsidedown it is that the photocells face the wrong way. The photocells face away from the light and the nerves to the brain run over the inside of the retina (rather than behind it) and the blindspot is then a hole in the retina through which all these nerves pass. An 'intelligent' designer would have these nerves run behind the retina thus circumventing the need for a blind spot at all. Just one example of bad eye design.
yeah and so is the tail bone at the end of the vertebrae column,so are chromosomal disorders in new born babies due to the sin of being born,so is the fucking appendix & so is thalassemia because of SIN!
FUCKING creationists!! & the only disorder creationists have is absence of common sense.
@TheMatrix398 No need for condescending comments, you were just bashing a creationist theory and not positing any alternative. Another philosophical question I have for you then, why are we here at all? Where did we come from?
Just like animals we to have evolved from singular cells just as they evolved significantly in their physical attributes like hearing,seeing,smelling,voluntary muscles which do not stress very easily etc etc mankind evolved in intelligence though he possesses the 5 senses they are not strong as that of animals.There is no special purpose of mankind we are just a species of higher intelligence,the thing that makes us human and sane is our choices of living in harmony and peace.
a sense of living in peace and harmony and not killing each other like animals is the direct result of our unparalleled intelligence.When we suppress our animal nature of fighting,killing,screaming we grow in our intelligence,we accept what makes us different from animals, our brain.When we succumb to violence or anything beastly we are growing to be like animals our intelligence gradually decreases.This way we define what is good and bad,our morality reflects our intelligence.
@TheMatrix398 Okay, but I am still flustered a bit, because you are assuming the pre-existence of those singular cells which evovled. Where did those single celled organisms come from? Question one. Question two, I have some serious reservations in your comment about violence, for I believe it is necessary to kill at appropriate times. Do you not think that it was just to kill people in WWII in order to stop the mass murder of Jews and everyone else in the Holocaust?
Ans 1)Are bodies are multicellular ,a single cell thus is the basic unit of are body, there exists singular celled organisms like bacteria and viruses.My statement was not sumptuous it is a proved scientific fact.
2)Regarding Violence,it is just an eg i gave of an animal behavior i did'nt say it is wrong.Let me explain
In an argument of any kind,three logical steps are always followed:
1)Amicably sorting it out if your opponent is a person of a sound reasonable mind.
2)Ignoring the person if he makes a illogical & idiotic statement,or is a closed minded thick head.Because you cannot reason with a close mind.3)The final step is resorting to violence in defense, only if your opponent succumbs to it to prove his idiotic superiority by violence.There is no point in showing the other cheek in that case.
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Regarding Hitler,he was a closed minded idiotic,sadistic,egoistic maniac, who you cannot reason with,nor can you ignore.So Vi
In case of Hitler he was a kind of person you cannot reason with and definitely not ignore as he resorted to terrible violence.So resorting to violence other than defense purposes is beastly.I just gave violence as an example of animal behavior,other examples could be forced sex,overeating or immersing one's self completely in physical pleasures. So this is what theists call sin, and i call animal behavior, which, if in any way put's others welfare at risk, is wrong.
@TheMatrix398 Actually, vestigial organs are the perfect proof of intermediate species. All creatinists ask for intermediate species... not realising they themselves are one!
The appendix used to have an important digestive role, we changed our diet over the past million years, we do not need it, and it is slowly dissapearing.
Perfect example of intermediate species.
Same with the ability to make vitamin C, we lost it, because we (and our ancestors) eat so much fruit!
Also, the eye is badly designed is because it can only focus clearly on a very small point while everything else is blurry. The brain has to compensate for this while the eye jumps around from point to point. Also, the eye ca not move smoothly, but only in very precise jumps.
someone send this to oreilly hannity and beck...........our god is an awesome god indeed............ fuck ray comfort............by the way non stamp collector sounds like ray comfort even makes it funnier
because the pigment which detect light has to be recycled otherwise we would be stuck with the same image
and the recycling is done by an epithelium connected to the photoreceptos but it can't be in the light way or it would absorp it, thats why the photoreceptor has to be in this position,
search for retinitis pigmentosa to know the importance of that
it is inverted for a very vital reason you stupid jerk
plus you only see what you focus on, other areas of the visual feild are blurry
the light coming from the area of focus (the center of the visual feild) hits as area called the fovea, in this area the photoreceptors does not have any layers or cells above it allowing the light to pass directly to the receptors, thus providing the visual acuity
see how inteligent and purpose efficient the desing is
@IMAHMS What is a "moran?" I googled it and it appears you believe me to be an expensive knife of some kind...............or is that a scientific term I'm not aware of?? did you mean moron? Quite ironic I would say XD
I think calling you half educated would be a compliment.
Nice touch on the Ad hominem attack on the end....you are very predictible. I assume "I study medicine" means you read the labels on your cough medicine when you buy it at the chemist XD ha ha ha!!!!
I haven't looked up eye design for several years, but I'm pretty sure that any pinhole camera sees an upside down image. I don't see how the eye could compensate for this.
In order to believe the Bible, you have to believe that a woman ate an apple, and then her punishment for that (even though she had no knowledge of good and evil) was to have all of humanity after that die and be subjected to massive amounts of starvation, disease, war, mutation and genetic defects, universal human design flaws like this, and oh yeah spending an eternity in hell with the except of a few people genetically predisposed toward blind faith in the correct Christian way.
The funny thing about this is that in the Dead Parrot Sketch, one of them actually said that the parrot ''had risen up to the heavens to meet its maker''.
@sillymonkey829 "god works in mysterious ways that all evidence counter to god being perfect are lies. in fact all evidence towards anything not god isn't real actually"
HMMmm.... I will admit your argument on how the human body doesn't work top efficiency(to prevent disease etc) do to design flaws , is relevant. I'd have to search that question out.
Thanks for the video. Sincerely from someone who is not a atheist like 90% of the viewers here. I wish there were more Theists here, seems they might be afraid : (
just looking at the first set of recent comments to this video is a clear indication that some of the people who stumbled upon it have no sense of wit or humor at all i only got about half way through on my phone waiting for my wife to get off work but the use of the dead parrot skit was genius it had me laughing i will be looking to see what more of these kinds of videos you have and hope you keep making more. in a world with death and destruction all around, we could all use a good laugh.
On behalf of all Christians (well, the 99.5% of us who passed biology in school), let me say how awesome this is! Thanks for so accurately and rightly taking the piss out of the creationists and fundamentalists! =)
AND WHY CAN'T WE ZOOM?
theciircusfreak 1 day ago
To every atheist having to face the question of "What if you're wrong" theist, this is video is the very centre of that answer.
Just say God is sooooooo stupid, you can convince him (or her, who knows) to shut the F**K UP and stop being a asshole god.
PROTOGgouki 4 days ago
Does anyone else get the hand/banana reference on the computer? It's great. :D
ThePoonerBooner 1 week ago
I was designed a laudatory.My nae is...
MEGAMAN
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The only way this whole video could be made better would be if there were a transition from the adaptation of the "Parrot Sketch" to the adaptation of the "Lumberjack Song".
nonreviad 2 weeks ago
epic
SoCalAries 3 weeks ago
THIS IS A DEAD PARROT!
ProphetOfTheTeapot 3 weeks ago
pretty good python man.
HelFKiernan 3 weeks ago
I would have taken the antlers. Big moose antlers. That would be awesome =)
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x), it took me watching this video more than 3 times to notice the banana thingy on the laptop screen at 0:07
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biggsleezy 1 month ago
My favorite part:
Why the hell did you give them eyes in the first place if they're meant to live in pitch black darkness and not see anything?
*inhale*.......Mysterious?
Something to do with Noah's flood?
Oh come on don't start with that shit!
RadaghastBrown 1 month ago 4
Intelligently designed doesn't necessarily mean perfectly infallibly designed & built.
Strangerinasland 2 months ago 3
@Strangerinasland intelligently designed by an infallible omniscient omnipotent being... please, ppl like you have to bend over backwards to make sense of this garbage
tamu77095 1 month ago 2
@Strangerinasland if you want another reductio ad absurdum of intelligent design, it'd be the appendix
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..............It peirces the darkness and at great expense to Himself, God pulls us out of evil and darkness and all the related destruction and pain.
But for those tht refuse to believe, they become the black backdrop to make His love and grace shine even brighter.
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""set us up to fail in the first place"
Nah its an awesome plan, for in order to make us fall in love with God, He had to show us the other siset us up to fail in the first place de, the darkside. Then he demonstrates his love by pulling us out of it after we rejected Him for stupid stuff. So we see how undeserving we are of His love and how his love doesnt care about that.............
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""hell because he ate a fruit ""
Not because he ate the fruit but bc he rejected God. He believed that the creation was better than the creator(which is illogical BTW) and he acted accordingly. Now all people do the same thing. No one goes to hell that doesnt want to go to hell. Most have their own idea of heaven(self will and self glory) and that is really hell . SO they want hell bc they want self will and
j919or 2 months ago
@j919or You saying something is illogical is like an ant thinking it understands physics. You are so full of fear & hate & selfloathing, you do not have a clue about reality. No sane person wants to be tortured for eternity. No sane person wants anyone else to be tortured for eternity. No 1 who is mentally fit to decide chooses to be tortured. STOP spewing hate & lies.
Strangerinasland 1 month ago 15
I've needed glasses since I was 6 years old. But it wasn't until 2 years later that my parents finally had my eyes checked, after countless complaints from my teachers that I couldn't see a thing written on the chalkboard. My eyes are definitely not intelligently designed.
8698gil 3 months ago
@8698gil Yes. If I was designed, it is astounding how they got a few things so right yet many others so wrong.
Strangerinasland 1 month ago 9
brilliant
discussislam 3 months ago
Me and my dead parrot loved this.
applefrog111 3 months ago 3
Favorite line
"Hello Zeus?"
"What do you mean Zeus?"
"Sorry i have a cold"
deathman1021 4 months ago 5
Wrong wrong wrong! The human eye is a PERFECT example of creation! Hold on, gotta put my glasses on so I can read my bible. Without those I can't see the words.
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Cataracts.
qwer58j 4 months ago
LOL.
qwer58j 4 months ago
The backwards photocells, blood vessels and nerves stop UV radiation. If they were forward-facing, as on an a cephalopod, we would all get cataracts at age 40. The appendix harbors helpful bacteria, which, although not necessary for survival, sure do help. How could all that compensation mechanism evolve? Mutations don't add new information, and even if they did natural selection would not favour those organisms, since a tiny change like that would not give any survival advantage.
Dinoenthusiastguy 5 months ago
@Dinoenthusiastguy Can you explain why I needed glasses at the age of 12(-) due to my eye sight being blurred? God couldn't make them last at least 40 years without everything becoming a blur(with exception to objects closer than 3 inches)?
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@Dinoenthusiastguy Could you also be so kind as to answer that same question to the hundreds of millions-billions of other people who need glasses to fix their vision?
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@TheStarvingSamurai I don't think that was a problem with the original human design. However, I think that after the flood event about 4,000 years ago, since only two of each species were saved (except for a few) there was a genetic bottleneck which caused problems such as vision blurring. There is nothing inherently wrong in the design, it's just messed up, more delicate, and doesn't last as long as it did before the bottleneck.
Dinoenthusiastguy 4 months ago
@Dinoenthusiastguy So Gods awesome plan was to kill everyone and create a genetic bottle neck so we can all have fault parts? Hmm... genius!
TheStarvingSamurai 4 months ago
@TheStarvingSamurai Faulty*
TheStarvingSamurai 4 months ago
@TheStarvingSamurai Did you actually read the story? God did it as judgement.
Dinoenthusiastguy 4 months ago
@Dinoenthusiastguy Oh yea! Forgot he wanted to punish the majority of people who were never even born! Why wait til they start doing bad stuff when you can punish them starting when they are kids :D again! Genius!!
TheStarvingSamurai 4 months ago
@Dinoenthusiastguy I mean, why punish the few million "wicked" people when you can punish billions! Not like he changed anything lmao!
TheStarvingSamurai 4 months ago
Human eyes is actually an argument for religion? They're grasping at straws. Poor, simple fools. Basing it on the Monty Python sketch "Dead Parrot" was brilliant! XD
TheCrimsonification 5 months ago
why don't you trade them in for octopus eyes, that the intelligent designer may or may have not designed????
boobtuber06 5 months ago
Palestinian? u mean Judaea right?
GrimmjowProduction 5 months ago
FIDDLED AROUND WITH BY THE DEVIL!?! D^8<
TheFriskyMango 5 months ago
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TheFriskyMango 5 months ago
rofl, I got it almost as soon as the vid started
UberMcFailsauce 5 months ago
You can see can't ya?
And if you can't then how the f*** are you reading this?
gamer31111 5 months ago
the human eye is the WORST case to ever make for sloppy joe Yahweh
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I'm sorry but it's not actually funny as Monty Python is.
Not that's it bad, but it's just not funny.
Gonnakillyou 6 months ago
Should be the iris, which has a color, instead of the cornea.
RadarKat73080 6 months ago
VOOM
DragonsREpic 6 months ago
3550 people like this video and only 75 understand the error of it. Statistically speaking...according to the BIBLE...those odds are about right for the population as a whole.
bornagain001 6 months ago
@bornagain001 Mind to elaborate?
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@Gonnakillyou ....“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are MANY WHO GO IN by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW WHO FIND IT.
Matthew 7:13-14
bornagain001 6 months ago
@bornagain001 What's the error?
Btw, I don't remember the Bible saying anything about likes on a YouTube video. Maybe I haven't studied it enough.
nolordsnomasters 5 months ago
All Hail Mounty Python!
...ups, I mean Yahweh
mehja1 6 months ago
The eye's not dead it's sleeping
laserindie 6 months ago
It's not wrong, but it's such an old, boring argument.
MichaelnChristine 6 months ago
brilliant
MeepullStewray 6 months ago
This is my favorite video by you.
SevereMalfunction7 6 months ago
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What's all this then?
sonoki82 6 months ago
nice monty python homage
Digityus 6 months ago
NonStampCollector's videos are underrated. This video should have far more views: it's hilarious! :D
YouBloodyFool 7 months ago
HOW THE HELL DO THESE HAVE SO MANY VIEWS :PPPPPP
shevierom 7 months ago
The flaw that pisses me off is no zoom vision. My camera has 3X optical zoom & it's a piece of shit.
Also I've learned not to try to drink anything while watching NonStampCollector so I won't spray it on my computer.
MrShoeguy 7 months ago
I was hoping for the part where god would say he didn't really want to be an omnipotent deity--he wanted to be a lumberjack...
wickedenchanter 7 months ago
THIS IS A SHIT EYE!!!
Hannaitlyn 8 months ago
hiddily diddly neighbor!!!
peacechicky420 8 months ago
But you forgot that God didn't want to be a Creator in the first place. He wanted to be a lumberjack! Or something...
civisromae 8 months ago
heheh cool idea bro
MrMsbllwnkl 8 months ago
i thought i recognized a bit of the "dead parrot sketch" in this cartoon!! and then at the end, the giant foot confirmed it, before i noticed the credit given to monty python. though i guess the title should've been a tip off as well...
qwyzl 8 months ago
However an upside-down image is still technically a flaw - our brains do our image processing for both our eyes and combine the images and flip them the right way. Babies learning to see and coordinate probably see things upside-down at first. Also if reversing lenses are worn which flip things, after a while our brains flip the image back. When the glasses are removed our normal vision is now upside-down. A 'perfect design' would immediately flip back, but our brains take several hours.
stevebritgimp 8 months ago
From some of the comments it seems we're getting 'back to front' mixed up with 'upside-down'. The light sensitive cells have wiring 'pupil-side' rather than brain side, and the eye is back to front. Hence blindspot to get wires through. Dumb 'design'. Upside-down image is separate issue - is corrected by brain software. Could be corrected with another lens, but that is inefficient. So probably best that can be expected.
stevebritgimp 8 months ago
The DMCA autograph warning you put up was an auto thumbs up from me xD Monty Python = epic. BWAHAHAHA dead parrot sketch made usless bad eye sketch.
TwyztdValkyrie 8 months ago
Remember, religious people, you can't have belief without "lie".
blackkakari 8 months ago
Ya, um, who says it's inverted? Doesn't it all depend on how it ends up being wired into the brain anyway?
Also, what causes the blind spot? Just curious.
MrProgrampro 8 months ago
Great XD this Eye is shit...
No...
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It's perfeckt XD
I don't unterstand the coments about the ww2 but if you are a fucking Nazi how mens that ther're was no holocaust fuck you.
Was glauben eigentlich mansche Leute, wie kann man Im ernst glauben wir hatten uns das alles ausgedacht??? Yunge du FICKSCHNITZEL
Mitsch1000 8 months ago
I have a cold.
maccafan1974 8 months ago
KABOOM!!! idiotic Christian reasoning blown out of the water
choongd 8 months ago
An inverted image on the retina is actually wonderful. It simplifies the lens enormously *and* leads to higher quality images. It is an example of *good* design, not bad design. Man made cameras work that way. I can't imagine it any other way, whether it be designed (like a camera) or not (as a process of evolution). I don't get why camera designers and nature both get chastised for doing it this way.
goldenrebel1st 9 months ago
@goldenrebel1st "I can't imagine it any other way" - and therefore it's the best possible? You can't imagine it another way because you haven't tried. Look at the cephalapod eyes to begin with. Scientists agree that they are without a doubt the best eyes on the planet, superior even to those of an eagle.
NonStampCollector 9 months ago 17
@NonStampCollector I was referring to the inverted image on the retina. The Cephalopod eye also has an inverted image. My argument is that that an inverted image is not an example of bad design.
goldenrebel1st 9 months ago 2
@goldenrebel1st OK, well I'm afraid you have me there.
However, I might suggest that an infinitely powerful being capable of doing absolutely anything he wanted wouldn't necessarily need to do it that way, and it is certainly interesting that if it is designed, it is designed in exactly the way we would expect if it were NOT designed. !!
As for the rest of the design faults... surely you wouldn't argue that they're the work of an intelligent designer? The retina I'll give you, but a blind spot?
NonStampCollector 9 months ago 2
@NonStampCollector Your video is excellent. I would not argue that the eye is the work of an intelligent designer. I only had pause for that specific (inverted image) argument only and was itching to point it out.
goldenrebel1st 9 months ago 5
@goldenrebel1st Ah, I get you.
Consider your itch scratched. :)
NonStampCollector 9 months ago 11
@NonStampCollector What? You recognize the fact that there's a blind spot but do not note that your brain geniously fills in what your eye cannot inform? In my humble opinion, you can't take bits and pieces of the body and say "Look! There! Right there and only there! See, there's not an intelligent designer." Plus, Wouldn't the intelligent designer of the human eye be the same of the cephalopod eye? I'm not following your logic.
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella I think the point is that if a creator made eyes, all creatures would have the same ultimate good eye. Why would god give us a lesser eye than animals?
Just design the perfect eye and use for all your creatures?
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar Well sure, but where's the creativity in that? And that argument could be taken to the extreme; why didn't God make everyone a Michael Jordan/Einstein/Socrates? I think it's more awe-inspiring that the same organ can be made different ways. And some very well may be "better than others," but it's not like our eyes don't get the job done. We don't need a perfect eye.
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella OK, you have a little daughter you love VERY MUCH. It is your turn Xmass to hand out presents. So you give to the dog a Playstation 3 and to your daughter a Playstation 2, because she does not need a Playstation 3. You actually bought a 2 for her just to be creative.
Our enjoyment of food is a fraction of most mammals because our sense of smell is so bad. Thanks God!
We are more than 100x likely to get food poisoning than a vulture... thanks DADDY for my 2nd rate immune system
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar Your arguments are taken well, but I'm going to ask you the same philosophical question I did to TheMatrix398 - Why are we here at all then? Why is there a daddy, a daughter, a dog. Why is there anything living at all?
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella You make a mistake all the Kalam philosophers are making. You are confusing the words 'cause' and 'reason'.
The universe had a cause to exist... modern science point to the big bang, or some kind of creation event. This does not meat it had a reason to exist (ie to glorify god etc). It could be for some other reason or no reason at all.
An asteroid does not exist to give your life reason, or to glorify god. It just exist as a by-product of the big bang. It has no reason.
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar I never mentioned God, I wished to be purely philosophical, but if you are okay with the idea of God, then your argument becomes futile. For how in the world can you say that something created out of nothing cannot glorify the maker? If God made the universe and everything in it, that would bring immense glory to himself. But beside the point of reason, I wish to come back to the idea of cause. The problem I see with the Big Bang theory is that it assumes material ... (cont)
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar (cont) for the creation of material. Ths Pre-Biotic soup has to be made up of matter, but where did that initial matter come from? I don't have a problem with The Big Bang theory IF there was a causer. That causer being completely independent of the event occuring. I ask you, what are the ramifications of any creation story if there is not that initial causer? For it seems to me that to believe any causation without a causer is absurdity.
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella You are absolutely right. There must have been a causer, however, the causer do not have to be intelligent. It could be just a natural process. You could say that natural process is 'GOD'. But we have no proove. That is why I am agnostic, not atheist.
Ofcourse the creation COULD glorify the creator, if he exists. The SCIENCE behind the big bang and what we still do not know is fascinating.
What is the causer is the biggest question facing science today.
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@MrRindercella This is the biggest fallacy creationists make about science:
"Something (the universe) was created out of nothing (the big bang)"
This is not true. BB theory can not explain the very first timesteps of creation, and it does not claim to do so. It is however very good at explaining what happens 1/1000 000 of a second later till today.
What happens right at point zero, and what caused the BB we do not know.
Because we dont know, we shouldnt say "God did it" without any proove.
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar I admire your line of thinking, but I'm still unsettled with the idea. And first I want to point out that I do believe creationists have proof for their belief, namely that the text they believe in has been found infallable for centuries and millenia, and their text says that God did create the world. This notion has not been disproved, as you said, the causer could be God, and thus it is a reasonable belief. However, I do wish to reach a logical conclusion, so I will throw
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella You are unsettled because you want to go to heaven... I was also there, you have my sympathies.
Infallable Bible: The morally corrupt book that support slavery? That order the death of disobedient teens, that killed a bunch of small children through a bear because they laughed at a Priest? Genocided most of Palestine? Error ridden: four legged insects, 6000 yr old earth, earth older than the stars, Jesus believing epilepsy (a medical condition) is caused by demons? etc, etc,
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar all presuppositions aside. Back to the Big Bang. Evolution and the Big Bang I do not think are very good at explaining what has occured to reach a point of where we are today. Assuming that there was in fact a causer, to my knowledge, there still has been no scientific experiment conducted in which inanimate matter (that is proteins and the parts of a cell) have come together unasisted to form animate matter. How do you deal with this? That the belief has not been proven.
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella I'm happy to concede the possibility of a god creator, even a clever one.
BUT, we KNOW that the earth is billions of years old. ALL religions fail to correctly tell the creation story.
All holy scriptires of all religions we have on earth are error ridden with basic bronze age nonsense.
So there might be an Intelligent creator, but we know nothing of him, and he does not care about us.
No one on earth knows of who this creator is, else they would have proven it.
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@MrRindercella Big Bang Theory, except the first second has been verified and validated extensively.
Evolution, except abiogenesis, have been v&v extensively.
Abiogenesis has very a good hypotheses, although not completely proven. We have PROVEN that amino acids can form randomly in ancient geothermal water. We have not proven the next step yet, formation of proteins and RNA. but we are working on it.
Religions on the other hand has highly flawed texts with huge errors, which fail basic v&v.
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@NonStampCollector Ugh, that's like the vestigial rear limbs creationist argument for whales...
B-b-but without the rear leg bones, the whales couldn't copulate!!!
It's like they can't recognize a bad design if they see it, they can only imagine things the way they are NOW. I wonder what sort of creative arguments they have for the appendix and wisdom teeth.
EthanNin0 6 months ago
@EthanNin0 Let's not forget human tailbones!
nolordsnomasters 5 months ago
@nolordsnomasters Have you ever tried to sit down with a broken tailbone? It's very painful, unless you lean forward all the time, since the tailbone is one of the supports in the tripod-like structure of your duff. It also acts as an anchor to the several muscles, without which it would be impossible to, well, do your business. The tailbone is far from useless.
Dinoenthusiastguy 5 months ago
@nolordsnomasters Ah, point taken. Thanks for the info.
nolordsnomasters 5 months ago
@goldenrebel1st The argument is not that the image forms on the retina upsidedown it is that the photocells face the wrong way. The photocells face away from the light and the nerves to the brain run over the inside of the retina (rather than behind it) and the blindspot is then a hole in the retina through which all these nerves pass. An 'intelligent' designer would have these nerves run behind the retina thus circumventing the need for a blind spot at all. Just one example of bad eye design.
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@goldenrebel1st: "An inverted image on the retina is actually wonderful.
No, actually it's not. It's actually a miserable, stupid, inefficient design.
"I can't imagine it any other way"
And if you can't imagine it any other way then GOD MUST HAVE DONE IT!
mikefromwa 5 months ago
it is the result of SIN!! LMAOF!!
yeah and so is the tail bone at the end of the vertebrae column,so are chromosomal disorders in new born babies due to the sin of being born,so is the fucking appendix & so is thalassemia because of SIN!
FUCKING creationists!! & the only disorder creationists have is absence of common sense.
TheMatrix398 9 months ago
@TheMatrix398 Soooooo, what's the alternative that you're posing? If disease isn't a result of punishment, what is it?
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella
Incidental chromosomal disorders that happen when the genetic code are not formed or replicated properly.
UNDERSTOOD!!!.
And in the case of vestigial organs they are just there because they did not interfere or were possibly ignored in the process of evolution.GOT IT!!
And what kind of god exists who punishes poor babies with chromosomal disorder's.Please use some brain next time while replying to my comment.
TheMatrix398 8 months ago
@TheMatrix398 No need for condescending comments, you were just bashing a creationist theory and not positing any alternative. Another philosophical question I have for you then, why are we here at all? Where did we come from?
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella
Just like animals we to have evolved from singular cells just as they evolved significantly in their physical attributes like hearing,seeing,smelling,voluntary muscles which do not stress very easily etc etc mankind evolved in intelligence though he possesses the 5 senses they are not strong as that of animals.There is no special purpose of mankind we are just a species of higher intelligence,the thing that makes us human and sane is our choices of living in harmony and peace.
TheMatrix398 8 months ago
@MrRindercella
a sense of living in peace and harmony and not killing each other like animals is the direct result of our unparalleled intelligence.When we suppress our animal nature of fighting,killing,screaming we grow in our intelligence,we accept what makes us different from animals, our brain.When we succumb to violence or anything beastly we are growing to be like animals our intelligence gradually decreases.This way we define what is good and bad,our morality reflects our intelligence.
TheMatrix398 8 months ago
@TheMatrix398 Okay, but I am still flustered a bit, because you are assuming the pre-existence of those singular cells which evovled. Where did those single celled organisms come from? Question one. Question two, I have some serious reservations in your comment about violence, for I believe it is necessary to kill at appropriate times. Do you not think that it was just to kill people in WWII in order to stop the mass murder of Jews and everyone else in the Holocaust?
MrRindercella 8 months ago
@MrRindercella
Ans 1)Are bodies are multicellular ,a single cell thus is the basic unit of are body, there exists singular celled organisms like bacteria and viruses.My statement was not sumptuous it is a proved scientific fact.
2)Regarding Violence,it is just an eg i gave of an animal behavior i did'nt say it is wrong.Let me explain
In an argument of any kind,three logical steps are always followed:
1)Amicably sorting it out if your opponent is a person of a sound reasonable mind.
TheMatrix398 8 months ago
@MrRindercella
2)Ignoring the person if he makes a illogical & idiotic statement,or is a closed minded thick head.Because you cannot reason with a close mind.3)The final step is resorting to violence in defense, only if your opponent succumbs to it to prove his idiotic superiority by violence.There is no point in showing the other cheek in that case.
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Regarding Hitler,he was a closed minded idiotic,sadistic,egoistic maniac, who you cannot reason with,nor can you ignore.So Vi
TheMatrix398 8 months ago
@MrRindercella
In case of Hitler he was a kind of person you cannot reason with and definitely not ignore as he resorted to terrible violence.So resorting to violence other than defense purposes is beastly.I just gave violence as an example of animal behavior,other examples could be forced sex,overeating or immersing one's self completely in physical pleasures. So this is what theists call sin, and i call animal behavior, which, if in any way put's others welfare at risk, is wrong.
TheMatrix398 8 months ago
@TheMatrix398 Actually, vestigial organs are the perfect proof of intermediate species. All creatinists ask for intermediate species... not realising they themselves are one!
The appendix used to have an important digestive role, we changed our diet over the past million years, we do not need it, and it is slowly dissapearing.
Perfect example of intermediate species.
Same with the ability to make vitamin C, we lost it, because we (and our ancestors) eat so much fruit!
Dont use it? Lose it.
VonVladimierVoltar 8 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar
Yes,thank you for correcting me sir.I appreciate it.
TheMatrix398 8 months ago
loved the work god was doing on this laptop about the banana and human hand
RaggedM88 9 months ago
"FIDDELED AROUND WITH BY THE DEVIL!!!!" LOL FOR THE WIN!!!!!
raiderboy012 9 months ago
Also, the eye is badly designed is because it can only focus clearly on a very small point while everything else is blurry. The brain has to compensate for this while the eye jumps around from point to point. Also, the eye ca not move smoothly, but only in very precise jumps.
DjZephy 9 months ago
i wanna squid eye
viking977 9 months ago
yea yea, the devil likes buggering up things like this
LOL
viking977 9 months ago
THIS IS A SHIT EYE!!! ha ha ha haaaaagh...
DrSpooglemon 9 months ago
"I really am a bit of a load of old bollocks aren't I?" haha
Renoexplainsitall 9 months ago
someone send this to oreilly hannity and beck...........our god is an awesome god indeed............ fuck ray comfort............by the way non stamp collector sounds like ray comfort even makes it funnier
sllimthg 9 months ago
fiddled around with by the devil.....one of the funniest things ever.........i love that part
sllimthg 9 months ago
Did anyone else notice the banana and the hand on Yahweh's laptop?
SabresGuy5 10 months ago 3
I fucking LOVE you for this!
that1weirdkid27 10 months ago
@ledwix: haha xD
findtruth512 10 months ago
WHY haven't I seen this one yet? I THOUGHT I listened to all of your videos yesterday while doing other work. Apparently, I missed a lot!!!
ReligiousFiction 10 months ago
69 people need to try the 69 position!
pmfa91 10 months ago
I dont want my eyes now
supermanuman95 10 months ago
Good Job. I'm a big fan of Dawkins and Monty Python.
Indigosnakes 11 months ago 2
^ this :)
Tommiddlecoat 11 months ago
Am I the only person who was expecting the Monty Python theme after the foot?
Gerstein1 11 months ago
I love the banana and hand diagram on Yahweh's laptop.
karstd 11 months ago 23
THAT OCULAR ORGAN IS DEFINITELY SHIT.
LegionIscariot 11 months ago
Now that is what I call SHIT DESIGN!!
Gerstein1 1 year ago
I love how the laptop in the background show a banana with an arrow pointing to a human hand? Haha, brilliant!
bleuscorpio 1 year ago
I had to check youtube for the dead parrot sketch because of this :D
ShawnD1 1 year ago
you half educated jerk
the retina in inverted for a reason
because the pigment which detect light has to be recycled otherwise we would be stuck with the same image
and the recycling is done by an epithelium connected to the photoreceptos but it can't be in the light way or it would absorp it, thats why the photoreceptor has to be in this position,
search for retinitis pigmentosa to know the importance of that
it is inverted for a very vital reason you stupid jerk
IMAHMS 1 year ago
plus you only see what you focus on, other areas of the visual feild are blurry
the light coming from the area of focus (the center of the visual feild) hits as area called the fovea, in this area the photoreceptors does not have any layers or cells above it allowing the light to pass directly to the receptors, thus providing the visual acuity
see how inteligent and purpose efficient the desing is
IMAHMS 1 year ago
if the whole retina would be like the fovea then you'll your brain need to be twice as big
and the retina much thicker to process al the information
all what you need is the area of focus and you can move your eyes very effitiantly to change the focus wherever
perfect design
half educated bitch
IMAHMS 1 year ago
@IMAHMS post in a nutshell
Cut and paste from Science book-- and Cut and paste from Science book -- and Cut and paste from Science book
Perfect Design
-Ad Hominem Insult-
Cougar139tweak 11 months ago
@Cougar139tweak lol!
I study medicine, it is from anatomy and physiology books but not copy paste. what did you think i would experimently know those things!
what stupid moran you are :D
IMAHMS 11 months ago
@IMAHMS What is a "moran?" I googled it and it appears you believe me to be an expensive knife of some kind...............or is that a scientific term I'm not aware of?? did you mean moron? Quite ironic I would say XD
I think calling you half educated would be a compliment.
Nice touch on the Ad hominem attack on the end....you are very predictible. I assume "I study medicine" means you read the labels on your cough medicine when you buy it at the chemist XD ha ha ha!!!!
Cougar139tweak 11 months ago 2
@Cougar139tweak wow you got me, a spelling mistake.. how can i live with myself
oh wait, english is not my language! so suck me :-)
IMAHMS 11 months ago
I prefer the eye of the tiger...
wikuk 1 year ago
I haven't looked up eye design for several years, but I'm pretty sure that any pinhole camera sees an upside down image. I don't see how the eye could compensate for this.
AllOtherNamesTaken2 1 year ago
Look here lordy. I laughed so hard water came out of my nose * note to self before watching anything of NSC I must not drink anything
Lariasio 1 year ago 2
Dear sir, I wish to complain in the strongliest terms . . .
thirteendays13 1 year ago
Now that's what I call SHIT DESIGN!
YouBloodyFool 1 year ago 2
lmao the laptop in the background!!!
bugfacedog44 1 year ago
In order to believe the Bible, you have to believe that a woman ate an apple, and then her punishment for that (even though she had no knowledge of good and evil) was to have all of humanity after that die and be subjected to massive amounts of starvation, disease, war, mutation and genetic defects, universal human design flaws like this, and oh yeah spending an eternity in hell with the except of a few people genetically predisposed toward blind faith in the correct Christian way.
Ledwix 1 year ago
@Ledwix
you also have to be ready and willing to believe in idol scripture.
LuminousTruth 1 year ago
@Ledwix Your point?
MrRindercella 8 months ago
The funny thing about this is that in the Dead Parrot Sketch, one of them actually said that the parrot ''had risen up to the heavens to meet its maker''.
camobeast100 1 year ago
66 People got fiddeled around with by the devil.
camobeast100 1 year ago 23
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you'll fade out just like all the other evolutionist, they don't keep up an study, what would they study? hate and ignorance
ineedaname777777 1 year ago
SHIT!
ineedaname777777 1 year ago
'' excuse me sir, my new norwegian blue seems to be dead.''
'' no it's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords''
siggdigg 1 year ago
NonStampCollector's take on the parrot sketch :)
erlend87 1 year ago
I love the banana.
RDog4484 1 year ago
Squids have better eyes then us? Neat.
dookiecheez 1 year ago
Haha I couldn't stop laughing .. I love your videos
THC1989 1 year ago 5
How does creationism account for random genetic mutations and vestigial appendices.
sillymonkey829 1 year ago
@sillymonkey829 "god works in mysterious ways that all evidence counter to god being perfect are lies. in fact all evidence towards anything not god isn't real actually"
bishopssix 1 year ago
@sillymonkey829 They dont thats the point
MinisterKGB 1 year ago
HMMmm.... I will admit your argument on how the human body doesn't work top efficiency(to prevent disease etc) do to design flaws , is relevant. I'd have to search that question out.
Thanks for the video. Sincerely from someone who is not a atheist like 90% of the viewers here. I wish there were more Theists here, seems they might be afraid : (
LampPlaceThing 1 year ago 3
@LampPlaceThing we Theist fear nothing!! fear not pupils is hear to save the day!!!
pupils011 1 year ago
Norwegian blue :D
BacklTrack 1 year ago
Awesome. I lol-ed at the banana-man reference. ^^
FriendlyShadow1 1 year ago
@FriendlyShadow1 Haha I did too, and the deadpan sarcasm is hilarious.
ChowMeinChowdown 11 months ago
This is worse than going to best buy !
krissy4nik 1 year ago
God arguing with creatinst is just like arguing with god
TheDeni993 1 year ago
just looking at the first set of recent comments to this video is a clear indication that some of the people who stumbled upon it have no sense of wit or humor at all i only got about half way through on my phone waiting for my wife to get off work but the use of the dead parrot skit was genius it had me laughing i will be looking to see what more of these kinds of videos you have and hope you keep making more. in a world with death and destruction all around, we could all use a good laugh.
wakcedout 1 year ago
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On behalf of all Christians (well, the 99.5% of us who passed biology in school), let me say how awesome this is! Thanks for so accurately and rightly taking the piss out of the creationists and fundamentalists! =)
GradStud28 1 year ago 5