Oh my goodness, how can Money(-NOT-)maker call this instant-all-in bei Humberto??? By ignoring ALL poker facts and number, shutting eyes and putting off his brain. Worst call in WSOP history!
Oh my goodness, how can Money(-NOT-)maker call this instant-all-in bei Huumberto??? By ignoring ALL poker facts and number, shutting eyes and putting off his brain. Worst call in WSOP history!
Moneymaker luckboxed his way into winning the main event. He hasn't done a thing since this lucky streak, but all those that use to make their living off of online poker have moneymaker to thank.
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@kokai5 no not really! :) well usually if this happens im in shock and i try to be sympathetic! but then again never been in a ten thousand dollar buy in tourney!
Really annoying to see people keep saying Moneymaker called. Listen to the announcers, people. Moneymaker bet Humberto's stack and Humberto called.
And i'd sure love to play with people who always assume their opponent has paired one of the overcards. You guys sure must fold alot! If you don't think Humberto or any other pro could have any two cards here, then you must not have watched or played much poker.
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@larrymcg421 my bad i meant he basically reraised shove... they were heads up so him raising 120000 was him saying all-in. Thats what I meant. Still a terrible play.
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EH, Chris Moneygiver is probably the reason a lot of the good ole boy donks came out of the wood work circa 03-04ish which is when online poker boomed, but he was/is not a very good player. And for the record, Gus Hansen is the reason I started playing, NOT Chris Moneygiver :)
Everyone hating on Moneymaker should just quit playing poker right now. I'll bet none of you jackasses would even know what Texas Hold'em was were it not for Moneymaker.
lol..ok...just an everyday accountant winning the big one and it was the first year espn really covered it. That brought hope for the small guy.....if a pro wins...it never would of taken off.
but its not because he won that one...that he is amazing.look at jamie gold he won the biggest one and no one cares about him today,if u win something big you should stay big,look at hachem, this year he is on the 100 fisrt in the main event
I answered on the other vide, but another thing, i would be agree with you if Moneymaker was going all in and Humberto calling, but he called Humberto's all in.
The only thing I admire about Moneymaker is the fact that he realized that he made the wrong decisions several times in the WSOP he won, and has done nothing but get better since then. He wasn't close to being the best player in the field, but ended up being the winner, which isn't the first time that has happened in a poker tournament. As for this hand, TERRIBLE play by Moneymaker. What hands could he be beating right now? Only a bluff from my count, b/c Humberto isn't some amateur.
Apparently he thought he had figured out a tell...and thought humberto was bluffing. Thats what he says in his book. He acted the same way against scotty nguyen with a nothing hand
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And this hand was the only suckout Moneymaker had in 2003. As for hand against Ivey, it was IVEY who sucked out by calling Moneymaker's continuation bet with pair of 9s when there's still Lester left to act and Ivey wasn't even getting right implied odds to hit his set on the turn. Moneymaker had Ivey covered 3:1 and there's no way Moneymaker can fold on the turn when Ivey's reraise was so small. Even if Moneymaker lost to Ivey, Moneymaker would still be a chip leader or 2nd place.
Ivey didn't put Moneymaker on Queen because Moneymaker could be betting out of his ass since he's a chip leader and can just be betting to bully people around. But he completely forgot about Lester who's still left to act. If Lester called, it makes sense. But Ivey shoudln't have called, especially on late stage of tournament where bubble play is in effect. Although I know this is completely hindsight bias, People can't blame Moneymaker. Trip Queens, High kicker, no straight/flush possibilities.
Ya dude, I think Moneymaker played the hand pretty much perfect. But you really think Ivey would have been happy with 8th or 9th place? pros generally play a lot more aggressive against amateurs, especially in bubble play. Dont get me wrong though, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Moneymaker, watch him on stars all the time.
I'm just following Sklansky's concept of "beware of players behind yet to act". I've ran into hands where I got squeezed and my call becomes dead money. If Ivey folded, Lester would've probably called and Ivey doesn't have to deal with the pot. People shouldn't blame Moneymaker because Ivey was short-stacked and Moneymaker had a strong hand himself, on top of that, Ivey is known for having any two cards. Moneymaker's moves against Ivey was standard and deck just favored Moneymaker. That's all.
Correction - This was the only TELEVISED hand that he sucked out on in 2003. In his own words he didn't really pay attention to "stuff like position" back then. The stars just aligned perfectly for him and the poker world that year, although his call of Dutch Boyd's all-in bluff after the flop with just a pair of threes was impressive.
What's really impressive about Moneymaker where majority of people haven't watched was his call against Dutch Boyd. He called with pocket 3s and put his whole tournament life at stake against Boyd's KQ high and before Boyd even turned over his cards, Moneymaker shouts out "low cards". Let's not forget how he folded his top pair against Farha's set while "established pros" like Vahedi can't let go of his hand and bluffs like an idiot with gutshot straight draw on paired board against Farha's boat
At first, I saw two videos of Moneymaker's suckout against Ivey and Brenes and was ignorant about Moneymaker. But after watching the whole WSOP 2003, Moneymaker ain't bad. Yes, Moneymaker had misread and sucked out against Brenes but Moneymaker had Brenes covered 3:1 and attempted to make that move, which put lot of pressure on Brenes. As for hand against Ivey, it was IVEY who sucked out by hitting his turn card and there's no way Moneymaker can put Ivey on 99 while Ivey's shortstacked.
DONK.... you can say it 100000 times no one gives a damn bout it ....ppl only say it coz they are mad they got beaten by someones bad call..runner or all in with random hands (position) ... the only thing we can say is shyt happens and Thats poker folks! or quit
I would add that since 2003 Moneymaker has not won a single tournament of any significanse he has made the money at WTP 2 times + one final table and has had 3 more money finishes at WSOP, not exactly setting the world on fire , all of which adds to the theory that he had better then average run of luck at the 2003 main event
He also had two final table appearances in the 08 WCOOP.
Look, no one is saying he is a legend, but he isn't the donk people make him out to be either. He got very lucky to win the WSOP, but so has everyone in winning it. If it didn't take amazing luck to win the Main Event, the Phil Ivey would have won it the last 6 years.
SOO Sick puts him all in after he raises and with pocket 8s after theres a flush draw, straight draw, and 2 over cards on the flop that was fuckin ridiculous
I think people are too hard on moneymaker he really only sucked out twice, he beat chan fair and square and you gotta think Ivey was lucky to get that nine on the turn moneymaker just returned the favour on the river
yeah sure but, he made a stunningly bad call there, poket 8s calling a huge re re-raise with a 9 K on the board , I think he just gave up and was ready to go home , I mean any poket pair higher than 8 or K9 would have had him behind , that was terrible play
People keep saying he called, but he didn't. He put Brenes all in.
No way Brenes has K9 here. He either has QQ, JJ, or AA. If Brenes has the first two hands, he would have to fold to the all in bet, because he's covered.
And it's silly to say he wanted to go home. Even if he lost this hand, he still had a healthy stack.
Sorry Larrymcg, but we must be watching different videos, Brenes reraises all in and Moneymaker "calls" Brenes could have had an over pair as he did , or any KQ, KJ , AK which on that board would have put him behind , Moneymaker did "not" put Brenes all in , Brenes himself reraised all in... In anycase if you think that was good play I'd love for you to join my home game ...let me know if your interested.
I stand corrected larrycg421, my observation about it being an incredibly bad move still stands though, as does my invitation for you to join us at our home game, or perhaps it was a brillant move which you can see pre turn card , if you care to explain it to me I'm open to be corrected once more ...
I never said it was a brilliant move. He made a play and ran into Aces. It happens. He can't know that Brenes has Aces. Since he has Brenes covered, the play works often against Brenes likely range, which includes TT, JJ, or QQ.
Furthermore, this is one of only two hands where he got a lucky card to win. If you watch the 2003 WSOP, which is on DVD, you'll see that this hand and the Ivey one are his only suckouts. Nobody has won the WSOP without getting at least a few suckouts like that.
Always = Twice? That's right. There are only two hands in the whole tourney this happened on. The one against Ivey and the one against Brenes.
This whole idea of him winning all these suckouts is an urban legend. Seriously, rent the WSOP DVD and watch the whole tourney. You can see him starting in episode 3.
Moneymaker and Gold, the two worst players to ever win the WSOP main event. They both pull donk moves with alarming regularity. Neither of those two would have won it in the old days...
how was that a stupid call?? he had a 92% chance to win this one, so on the long run he would have won with pocket Aces
Of course after the action is seen the call is stupid, lots of people would love to say ''well, that was a stupid call, give me my money back", but can you do that !!? think people think
so what if moneymaker isnt the second coming of stu ungar?..does it realy matter?..no. The guy was good for pokers popularity and alot of people have benefited from that.
Leave the guy alone...not everyone who wins a poker tournament is going to be great...or blow it on coke
Its so funny, you think Humberto is the greatest poker player today? wow! just wow! how many championships has he won? look at helmuth, 11 bracelets. Look at antonious, Huge net worth, gus hansen, Daniel Negraneu, Durrrr(Dwan) Humberto doesnt even come close to these guys! just cause he has/had a mustache!! ARGG!!!!Mustaches dont win championships! (except for burt reynolds)!
Moneymaker is shit? HA! You try winning your way into the wsop via online site, then winning the whole thing including beating the top pros in the game! Then you can say something bad about him. What have you done that is even remotely close to what hes accomplished? Nothing in comparisan! Quit knocking the amateurs just cause they are new to the game, or what not. Thats why a newcomer has won for the past 7 years now! hmmmm....Eat your own words you fucking prick!
moneymaker sucks balls....he sucked out the whole time to win...this terrible play and against Ivey made his game, he hasn't and won't win anything again
the guy hit a two outter here, his suckout against ivey was sick too....ivey was set to win the WSOP if that hadn't happened....2 times??? that's just what I remember and showed they showed on tv, he and Gus Hansen are the only two "pros" that I see get lucky on a consistent basis, calling from behind and somehow winning...moneymaker isn't good
chris moneymaker is SHIT, humberto brenes would have won the whole thing if it wasnt for FAT STONES getting lucky, BRENES is the best player in the world today by far, i love him and his shark!
it's amazing how these donkies are lucky...
foradilma1 3 months ago
Well he tried to bluff and humberto goes all in was so little to call that he HAS to made the call people..
xFerris 5 months ago
He'll just blow his winnings in a couple of years...donks like Moneymaker always end up broke in the end!
ThongInspections 6 months ago
the worst call in poker history .. MONEYDONK ..
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Oh my goodness, how can Money(-NOT-)maker call this instant-all-in bei Humberto??? By ignoring ALL poker facts and number, shutting eyes and putting off his brain. Worst call in WSOP history!
Schdan777 7 months ago
Oh my goodness, how can Money(-NOT-)maker call this instant-all-in bei Huumberto??? By ignoring ALL poker facts and number, shutting eyes and putting off his brain. Worst call in WSOP history!
Schdan777 7 months ago
@Schdan777 he committed himself with the bet.. it was about the same stack as humberto's chips. worst bluff perhaps.
jynxurhand 7 months ago
@Schdan777 Easy call. Moneymaker is what 11 to 1 behind but there is so much in there he is +EV to call. We should play sometime.
Shiplodicus 5 months ago
fuck noobs that play like that. but they always win -.-'
cacaegato 7 months ago 5
I hate this specific hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
medkn88 7 months ago
que mala suerte Shark!!!
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champions20000009 8 months ago
donk call
dedezaopl 8 months ago
2nd place at the NBC Heads Up Championship. Congrats Moneymaker! Eat it, haters.
larrymcg421 8 months ago
Moneymaker luckboxed his way into winning the main event. He hasn't done a thing since this lucky streak, but all those that use to make their living off of online poker have moneymaker to thank.
2011blueman 9 months ago
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johnsmith7490 9 months ago
ace ace against eight eight lol
leafsrule1990 9 months ago
chris money donker
jayjasonbird 9 months ago
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baldon3692 10 months ago
fucking donk
VYCanisMajorisSirius 10 months ago
Damm look at the pain in Humbertos face, hes about to cry!
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elnoraswainthomp 10 months ago
the asshole celebrates his miracle ... What a piece of shit player... not much between him and Jamie Gold...
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johnsmith7490 10 months ago
It's always nice when people make a wrong decision and win the hand and pretend that they outplayed the other player who was clearly dominating them
ekku1979 10 months ago
seems like moneymaker sucked out on a lot of people in this tournament
NetSkilla 11 months ago
haha money maker
fliptthescript 1 year ago
to be honest i dontwhy people celebrate sucking out! its not like they did anything good! its such a gay fist pump by moneymaker
TheGAAman 1 year ago
@TheGAAman
kokai5 1 year ago
@TheGAAman Is the emotion! human beings have emotions! dont u?
kokai5 1 year ago
@kokai5 no not really! :) well usually if this happens im in shock and i try to be sympathetic! but then again never been in a ten thousand dollar buy in tourney!
TheGAAman 1 year ago
@TheGAAman its better than saying "sorry"
betonOPL 1 year ago
demasiada suerte para ser profesional,esta suerte creo que mas bien es de un ODIOSO FISH
ThePedropolvos 1 year ago
Really annoying to see people keep saying Moneymaker called. Listen to the announcers, people. Moneymaker bet Humberto's stack and Humberto called.
And i'd sure love to play with people who always assume their opponent has paired one of the overcards. You guys sure must fold alot! If you don't think Humberto or any other pro could have any two cards here, then you must not have watched or played much poker.
larrymcg421 1 year ago 2
@larrymcg421 I agree. Wish I could get some of these guys in a cash game.
Bigbriansc 11 months ago
It's all about making the wrong move at the right time!!!
POKERPRONJWSOP 1 year ago
moneymaker looks like a scared little boy
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It's just like the RNG of PokerStars dealt the cards ....
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TheTwpsoccer17 1 year ago
Iv lost all respect for Moneymaker
martysparty2042 1 year ago
omg his such a retard...nobody would ever call this shit and this lucky fucker even wins it ...ridiciolous
HarryWeinfurth 1 year ago
moneymaker is a moron..
MrLanos89 1 year ago
jaja, por cantar victoria antes de tiempo.... mal augurio, XD
AlbertHxUx 1 year ago
Norman Chad speaking normally instead of shouting like nowadays!!!!! What the hell changed???!!!
iagoil 1 year ago
moneymaker is the biggest donk to win WSOP Main Event
jimmybluebo 1 year ago 2
money maker Won this main event by luck not skill. farha beat him heads up i mean CRUSHED HIM!!!
Djss323 1 year ago
Ahhh..the 2003 WSOP a.k.a 'The Big Rig'.....PokerStars paid a lot of money for Moneymaker to win that tournament.
Parked3Wide 1 year ago
poor brenes
6and6rea6 1 year ago
He´s a donkey.... donk reward the bracelet
randallh21 1 year ago
funny to see all the donkeys say that he is a donkey :D
paul4121991 1 year ago
he made a pact with devil.. no doubt
curuzu 1 year ago
lol
pone43 1 year ago
This is the kind of luck you need to win a tournament
serratop 1 year ago 2
OMG!
krazyazn208 1 year ago
Moneymaker is a donk spaz
galeng 1 year ago 9
It's pretty standard to lose aces.. it sucks because it's the WSOP. but this isn't really rare. My aces gets beat every day by trash hands.
Good players always win in the longrun though. If you think poker is only a game of luck then your obviously a bad player.
hahaownedlolz 1 year ago
the game has to much luck involved its sick
its just a gamble game in the end :s
BlaBlaidc 1 year ago
stop whining you idiots, this happens all the time
mattgreen64 1 year ago
horrible play from moneymaker.
SCHIZOPHRENICxRSxLOL 1 year ago
so if u win the Main Event pokerstars calls u a pro anyway....ROFL..... Moneymaker is a JOKE!!!!
074Jesse 1 year ago
Se lo merecia por idiota
SnakeMagnetic 1 year ago
Don't care how lucky Moneymaker is as long as he felts tools like that shark-toy loco loudmouth Humberto.
spookyben 1 year ago
wow moneymaker is horrible... reraising and calling an all in with 3rd pair to the board? wtf why can't i run that well?
therealkylewood 1 year ago 2
He didn't call all-in.
Moneymaker asks for a count. The count is $120,000. Moneymaker raises $120,000. Brenes calls.
larrymcg421 1 year ago
@larrymcg421 my bad i meant he basically reraised shove... they were heads up so him raising 120000 was him saying all-in. Thats what I meant. Still a terrible play.
therealkylewood 1 year ago
2003 was Moneymaker year, and his only year for the rest of his life...
edchi82 2 years ago 3
@edchi82 of course what do u expected from that guy ? =)
he had one lucky run, just to become a fish at the highest stakes
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PSVIP600 2 years ago
Lucky fucker!! That shit happens me all the time in tourneys online...
So sick when people get rewarded for bad play!
wesleyhoulihan 2 years ago 46
@wesleyhoulihan GOTTA BE IN IT TO WIN IT SIR!
voidy777 9 months ago
wow moneymaker is a lucky dog here. Bad play overall.!
Changxboi 2 years ago 4
EH, Chris Moneygiver is probably the reason a lot of the good ole boy donks came out of the wood work circa 03-04ish which is when online poker boomed, but he was/is not a very good player. And for the record, Gus Hansen is the reason I started playing, NOT Chris Moneygiver :)
DaisyRose8731 2 years ago 2
Theres a reason monyemaker has done squat since the win.
canuckman87 2 years ago
what an idiot i mean the only explanation to make that call is cause he thought brenes was on a flush draw...
Furthermore23 2 years ago
Moneymaker such an idiot, i hate him, good player but not enougth, i hate when he get lucky
gustavomanya7 2 years ago
OMG
justfold1 2 years ago 2
donkey play by moneymaker unlucky brenes
ayd1nmo 2 years ago 30
@ayd1nmo exactly... he calls??? not thinking he could have an over pair, a set, .... not to mention with two overs on the board ??.. wtf??
plastoBASS 1 year ago
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Alik1991 2 years ago
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Brenes is a donk
maybe a good player, but also a retard making fun of coplayers
mafajardo 2 years ago
I agree with BT47, you fishies think he has so much luck to survive 7 days of 13 hours of poker? Get real...
ivansakharov 2 years ago
Everyone hating on Moneymaker should just quit playing poker right now. I'll bet none of you jackasses would even know what Texas Hold'em was were it not for Moneymaker.
BT47 2 years ago 2
Agreed. He is a lucky donkey. Should not of won this event in 2003, he didn't deserve to.
MPH84 2 years ago 2
moneymaker is very lucky
237elefantirosa 2 years ago 2
brenes is one of the worlds best tournament players
naiki4sparta 2 years ago
iwish that chris would have never won
mastahlone 2 years ago
then poker as we know it wouldn't be here.
nighttrain316 2 years ago
chris is nothing for poker
poker was already here before him
mastahlone 2 years ago 4
lol..ok...just an everyday accountant winning the big one and it was the first year espn really covered it. That brought hope for the small guy.....if a pro wins...it never would of taken off.
nighttrain316 2 years ago
yah thats right
but its not because he won that one...that he is amazing.look at jamie gold he won the biggest one and no one cares about him today,if u win something big you should stay big,look at hachem, this year he is on the 100 fisrt in the main event
mastahlone 2 years ago
lol...ok..I guess you don't see the earnings he makes online...and jamie gold himself said he is not a full time poker player.
nighttrain316 2 years ago
and he celebrates..... donk
lorizzzio 2 years ago
wooow if he loses no bracelet wow
casinohustler 2 years ago
Not really, he had Brenes well covered at this point. Even if he lost, he would've been okay.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
@larrymcg421
I answered on the other vide, but another thing, i would be agree with you if Moneymaker was going all in and Humberto calling, but he called Humberto's all in.
gustavomanya7 2 years ago
Listen to the video again. Moneymaker asks for a chip count. The amount is $120,000.
Several seconds later, Moneymaker raises $120,000.
Why is this so hard for so many people to grasp. What in this video makes people think Moneymaker called all-in?
larrymcg421 2 years ago
Thats because he did call all in. He raised, Humberto re-raised all in. Then Chris called Humberto's all in.
bizzyb0ne017 2 years ago
at 0:54, Norm Chad says Brenes chip count is $120,000
at 1:11, Lon says thay Moneymaker raised $120,000
Moneymaker raised the remaining chips Humberto had. Once Humberto goes all-in, there is nothing left for Moneymaker to call.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
I just realized that Chris is a big Donkey, and he won the tournament by PURE LUCK, zero skill
kikolovex3 2 years ago
DONK
mojojojo787 2 years ago 3
The only thing I admire about Moneymaker is the fact that he realized that he made the wrong decisions several times in the WSOP he won, and has done nothing but get better since then. He wasn't close to being the best player in the field, but ended up being the winner, which isn't the first time that has happened in a poker tournament. As for this hand, TERRIBLE play by Moneymaker. What hands could he be beating right now? Only a bluff from my count, b/c Humberto isn't some amateur.
theCRIMSONtradition 2 years ago
QQ, JJ, TT are all likely here.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
Humberto would fold any of those three hands, since Moneymaker has him covered.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
A King is much more likely than any of those 3, just on mathematics alone. A bluff just to get those 3 cards out is just not worth it.
Mockni 2 years ago
Apparently he thought he had figured out a tell...and thought humberto was bluffing. Thats what he says in his book. He acted the same way against scotty nguyen with a nothing hand
pagan109 2 years ago
SUCKOUT!
puromar1 2 years ago 2
This was clearly the hand that made Humberto crazy.
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jerry692006 2 years ago
And this hand was the only suckout Moneymaker had in 2003. As for hand against Ivey, it was IVEY who sucked out by calling Moneymaker's continuation bet with pair of 9s when there's still Lester left to act and Ivey wasn't even getting right implied odds to hit his set on the turn. Moneymaker had Ivey covered 3:1 and there's no way Moneymaker can fold on the turn when Ivey's reraise was so small. Even if Moneymaker lost to Ivey, Moneymaker would still be a chip leader or 2nd place.
EdDy4RheelZ 2 years ago 4
I agree with you that it shouldnt be called a suckout, but there was nothing wrong with Ivey's call on the flop.
kokoth 2 years ago
Ivey didn't put Moneymaker on Queen because Moneymaker could be betting out of his ass since he's a chip leader and can just be betting to bully people around. But he completely forgot about Lester who's still left to act. If Lester called, it makes sense. But Ivey shoudln't have called, especially on late stage of tournament where bubble play is in effect. Although I know this is completely hindsight bias, People can't blame Moneymaker. Trip Queens, High kicker, no straight/flush possibilities.
EdDy4RheelZ 2 years ago
Ya dude, I think Moneymaker played the hand pretty much perfect. But you really think Ivey would have been happy with 8th or 9th place? pros generally play a lot more aggressive against amateurs, especially in bubble play. Dont get me wrong though, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Moneymaker, watch him on stars all the time.
kokoth 2 years ago
I'm just following Sklansky's concept of "beware of players behind yet to act". I've ran into hands where I got squeezed and my call becomes dead money. If Ivey folded, Lester would've probably called and Ivey doesn't have to deal with the pot. People shouldn't blame Moneymaker because Ivey was short-stacked and Moneymaker had a strong hand himself, on top of that, Ivey is known for having any two cards. Moneymaker's moves against Ivey was standard and deck just favored Moneymaker. That's all.
EdDy4RheelZ 2 years ago
If he lost to brenes here, he'd still have an above average stack.
agoo7581 2 years ago
Correction - This was the only TELEVISED hand that he sucked out on in 2003. In his own words he didn't really pay attention to "stuff like position" back then. The stars just aligned perfectly for him and the poker world that year, although his call of Dutch Boyd's all-in bluff after the flop with just a pair of threes was impressive.
tbrien66 2 years ago
What's really impressive about Moneymaker where majority of people haven't watched was his call against Dutch Boyd. He called with pocket 3s and put his whole tournament life at stake against Boyd's KQ high and before Boyd even turned over his cards, Moneymaker shouts out "low cards". Let's not forget how he folded his top pair against Farha's set while "established pros" like Vahedi can't let go of his hand and bluffs like an idiot with gutshot straight draw on paired board against Farha's boat
EdDy4RheelZ 2 years ago
At first, I saw two videos of Moneymaker's suckout against Ivey and Brenes and was ignorant about Moneymaker. But after watching the whole WSOP 2003, Moneymaker ain't bad. Yes, Moneymaker had misread and sucked out against Brenes but Moneymaker had Brenes covered 3:1 and attempted to make that move, which put lot of pressure on Brenes. As for hand against Ivey, it was IVEY who sucked out by hitting his turn card and there's no way Moneymaker can put Ivey on 99 while Ivey's shortstacked.
EdDy4RheelZ 2 years ago
DONK.... you can say it 100000 times no one gives a damn bout it ....ppl only say it coz they are mad they got beaten by someones bad call..runner or all in with random hands (position) ... the only thing we can say is shyt happens and Thats poker folks! or quit
keke8888 2 years ago
moneymaker what a donk
Furthermore23 2 years ago
I would add that since 2003 Moneymaker has not won a single tournament of any significanse he has made the money at WTP 2 times + one final table and has had 3 more money finishes at WSOP, not exactly setting the world on fire , all of which adds to the theory that he had better then average run of luck at the 2003 main event
pabloalarroyo 2 years ago
He also had two final table appearances in the 08 WCOOP.
Look, no one is saying he is a legend, but he isn't the donk people make him out to be either. He got very lucky to win the WSOP, but so has everyone in winning it. If it didn't take amazing luck to win the Main Event, the Phil Ivey would have won it the last 6 years.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
SOO Sick puts him all in after he raises and with pocket 8s after theres a flush draw, straight draw, and 2 over cards on the flop that was fuckin ridiculous
1TOPPATOPPA 2 years ago
I think people are too hard on moneymaker he really only sucked out twice, he beat chan fair and square and you gotta think Ivey was lucky to get that nine on the turn moneymaker just returned the favour on the river
brotherwii 2 years ago
but he's done NOTHING since then? it was a lot of luck.
marliben 2 years ago
yeah sure but, he made a stunningly bad call there, poket 8s calling a huge re re-raise with a 9 K on the board , I think he just gave up and was ready to go home , I mean any poket pair higher than 8 or K9 would have had him behind , that was terrible play
pabloalarroyo 2 years ago
People keep saying he called, but he didn't. He put Brenes all in.
No way Brenes has K9 here. He either has QQ, JJ, or AA. If Brenes has the first two hands, he would have to fold to the all in bet, because he's covered.
And it's silly to say he wanted to go home. Even if he lost this hand, he still had a healthy stack.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
Sorry Larrymcg, but we must be watching different videos, Brenes reraises all in and Moneymaker "calls" Brenes could have had an over pair as he did , or any KQ, KJ , AK which on that board would have put him behind , Moneymaker did "not" put Brenes all in , Brenes himself reraised all in... In anycase if you think that was good play I'd love for you to join my home game ...let me know if your interested.
pabloalarroyo 2 years ago
Watch the video again.
Moneymaker asks for a count of Brenes chips. The reply is that he has $120,000. Moneymaker raises Brenes $120,000.
If you can't do simple arithmetic, then I'd love for you to play at MY home game.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
I stand corrected larrycg421, my observation about it being an incredibly bad move still stands though, as does my invitation for you to join us at our home game, or perhaps it was a brillant move which you can see pre turn card , if you care to explain it to me I'm open to be corrected once more ...
pabloalarroyo 2 years ago
I never said it was a brilliant move. He made a play and ran into Aces. It happens. He can't know that Brenes has Aces. Since he has Brenes covered, the play works often against Brenes likely range, which includes TT, JJ, or QQ.
Furthermore, this is one of only two hands where he got a lucky card to win. If you watch the 2003 WSOP, which is on DVD, you'll see that this hand and the Ivey one are his only suckouts. Nobody has won the WSOP without getting at least a few suckouts like that.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
he got lots of talent playing bingo,NOT POKER
Amazing that someone like that won.
ciapacz 2 years ago
He really didnt deserve to win that tournament..he made so many bad decisions and always got a lucky river or turn to suckout..
greken145 2 years ago
Always = Twice? That's right. There are only two hands in the whole tourney this happened on. The one against Ivey and the one against Brenes.
This whole idea of him winning all these suckouts is an urban legend. Seriously, rent the WSOP DVD and watch the whole tourney. You can see him starting in episode 3.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
the one against Ivey wasn't really a bad decision, ANYONE would have called with trip queens.
8MDV8 2 years ago
Thats the only way Moneymaker could win anything is if he sucks out
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sienipata 2 years ago
the same thing happend to me in tourny lol but he made trips on the flop :( i hate pocket aces
therealkabs 2 years ago
yeah i saw that. you were on a 1 dollar sit and go table.
negerbende 2 years ago
Just because you can calculate odds, doesn't take the luck out of the game.
This game's about luck and balls.
You must have both to win.
musicequalstruth 2 years ago
Moneymaker and Gold, the two worst players to ever win the WSOP main event. They both pull donk moves with alarming regularity. Neither of those two would have won it in the old days...
brandoH85 2 years ago
gd call and crazy lucky shris!!
MigueDog 2 years ago
how was that a stupid call?? he had a 92% chance to win this one, so on the long run he would have won with pocket Aces
Of course after the action is seen the call is stupid, lots of people would love to say ''well, that was a stupid call, give me my money back", but can you do that !!? think people think
PS: don't say he could think about pocket Kings..
pssecho 2 years ago
Lots of people, who apparently cannot perform simple arithmetic or read the video description, think Moneymaker is the one who called here.
larrymcg421 2 years ago
Exactly!
pssecho 2 years ago
Humberto got pwnd!
Hahahahahahahaha.
realityhurts1313 2 years ago
what a stupid call
xero733 2 years ago
what a donkey call.
selfis0007 2 years ago
That's what Humberto Brenez gets for being an irritating cunt.
gazz12345a 2 years ago
40 $ got him these lucky cards
littlenickyscarfo 2 years ago
2 pairs of glasses, LOL
That suck out was wrong though.
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Pokerwithstrategy 2 years ago
I hate Brenes.... always screaming and goofing around ..... if i was on the same table i will punch his face
VOD713 2 years ago
you punch him....you die
mastahlone 2 years ago
so what if moneymaker isnt the second coming of stu ungar?..does it realy matter?..no. The guy was good for pokers popularity and alot of people have benefited from that.
Leave the guy alone...not everyone who wins a poker tournament is going to be great...or blow it on coke
JaiAlaiKid 2 years ago 2
or blow it on coke.....BURN LOL
sosickwithit666 2 years ago
moneymaker is the king of Donks!
smotpoker00 2 years ago 2
no..I think he was dethroned by jamie gold
sens2good 2 years ago 8
dethroned? wtf he won that in 2003 that was 6 years ago newb
thedongers13 2 years ago
no...that belongs to jamie gold
sens2good 2 years ago
wut a lucky donk
TeexaYang 2 years ago 2
Its so funny, you think Humberto is the greatest poker player today? wow! just wow! how many championships has he won? look at helmuth, 11 bracelets. Look at antonious, Huge net worth, gus hansen, Daniel Negraneu, Durrrr(Dwan) Humberto doesnt even come close to these guys! just cause he has/had a mustache!! ARGG!!!!Mustaches dont win championships! (except for burt reynolds)!
Gennisis01 2 years ago
Moneymaker is shit? HA! You try winning your way into the wsop via online site, then winning the whole thing including beating the top pros in the game! Then you can say something bad about him. What have you done that is even remotely close to what hes accomplished? Nothing in comparisan! Quit knocking the amateurs just cause they are new to the game, or what not. Thats why a newcomer has won for the past 7 years now! hmmmm....Eat your own words you fucking prick!
Gennisis01 2 years ago
moneymaker sucks balls....he sucked out the whole time to win...this terrible play and against Ivey made his game, he hasn't and won't win anything again
soldierwithu 2 years ago 4
Two times = the whole time?
larrymcg421 2 years ago 2
the guy hit a two outter here, his suckout against ivey was sick too....ivey was set to win the WSOP if that hadn't happened....2 times??? that's just what I remember and showed they showed on tv, he and Gus Hansen are the only two "pros" that I see get lucky on a consistent basis, calling from behind and somehow winning...moneymaker isn't good
soldierwithu 2 years ago
chris moneymaker is SHIT, humberto brenes would have won the whole thing if it wasnt for FAT STONES getting lucky, BRENES is the best player in the world today by far, i love him and his shark!
Calumlyle1 2 years ago
Brenes is good, but not nearly the best. Moneymaker is awful and gets luckier than shit. Skill alone, Moneymaker woulda been gone on day one.
guppy4527 2 years ago 5