listen to the song...it might be about God...or it might be about a guy who's in love...or it could be about any other kind of religion.
goodness, it could virtually be about anything. and no matter what it's about, music is all about EXPRESSION not ARGUMENT. please, you don't have to agree on anything, but don't argue with people you don't even know.
This Band is so f-ing Rad!!! their sound is so different, and i love that guitar! The first time i heard this band was on a Beta Records video on youtube!
Athiest will never kill other people because they think different about things.. Atheist wont 'kill infidels!'. Atheists dont want to own jerusalem. Atheists dont make substances illegal because a fairytale told them so. Atheist wont do harm and be forgive the next day, so they can still go to heaven. Athiests dont stone people. Atheists dont force other people to believe what they do. Atheists dont blow up buildings, of become suicidebombers.
Your argument is a fallacy. You understood wrong and you respond incorrectly. Anyway, continuing with your flow of things... Are you an atheist? Cause it seems to me like you do force you beliefs onto other people as this response indicates. And who's attacking who here? Im a christian and ive never stoned anyone. You act like atheists dont do things. There are evil people everywher!. Your judging christians for the evil a few of them did. Appreciate our cause and dont judge.
No no, Im just stating the facts, you shouldnt reflect it onto yourself. Therefore im not forcing my beliefs at all, more like a spindocter. Im letting people choose whether to go for fact or fiction.
I never said atheist dont do harm, but in general, atheists can/may think for themself, they make decisions based on logic instead of rules given by a fictional book. Ps. One word: Crusades, atheists never had crusades!
No no, Im just stating the facts, you shouldnt reflect it onto yourself. Therefore im not forcing my beliefs at all, more like a spindocter. Im letting people choose whether to go for fact or fiction.
I never said atheist dont do harm, but in general, atheists can/may think for themself, they make decisions based on logic instead of rules given by a fictional book. Ps. One word: Crusades, atheists never had crusades!
No no, Im just stating the facts, you shouldnt reflect it onto yourself. Therefore im not forcing my beliefs at all, more like a spindocter. Im letting people choose whether to go for fact or fiction.
I never said atheist dont do harm, but in general, atheists can/may think for themself, they make decisions based on logic instead of rules given by a fictional book. Ps. One word: Crusades, atheists never had crusades!
@BleedingSunday hahaha you are sooo smart. i could be an atheist and i could've killed somebody and you'd never know. that alone makes your whole arguement void. and pointless hahaha
@BleedingSunday kay, reaad it again, all i got was the first line, an athiest would never kill.. right there you are wrong because you can't say every athiest in the word hasn't killed somebody.
I am afraid you really need to look at your history my friend.
Starting with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. Peut-être Hitler aussi.
War is an entirely different matter than the genocides put upon by these gentlemen, who were atheists.
Also, all the things you have mentioned are from ignorance, both your own personal ignorance and the ignorance of those who did the actions you mentioned.
Oh, and the stoning you mention were national laws - not arbitrary personal laws.
Oh and do inform yourself on this so called history you talk of, because you have no idea and are just repeating whatever you heard.. because stalin and hitler were not atheists. Not that it would matter, but just to correct your propaganda lies.
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God... all this talk about God is sheer nonsense." -Joseph Stalin. E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin
It's your history that needs correcting, and your propaganda that needs rewriting.
Joseph Stalin was a fierce atheist, and by the Holocaust, Hitler was as well, as his actions were based on an application of only the fittest should survive.
Also, Stalin killed people for believing different than him. Research "Gulags",
I try to be honest. You, sir, do me a great injustice.Having studied the USSR and it's founding roots I feel confident in saying that Stalin and the USSR were atheist in their nature. Especially during the Stalinist regime, where they razed churches and killed thousands from the clergy.
However, I would be willing to learn from you if you were able to show me, through primary sources, the truth.
@BleedingSunday Also, this book seems rather interesting. Me currently being in a French speaking province I am unable to read it, but I think that it's a good source, perhaps - E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin .
@BleedingSunday Also, a point I had not mentioned was the people I have known who came from under the Red Curtain. An acquaintance of mine had told me that " Once I was free of the soviet rule ( he had escaped through the Ukrainian border I believe), the first thing I did was go to church - the reason for this being that if you were caught as a Christian under Soviet rule you were either executed or taken to the Gulags. Now to have that freedom of belief, that was truly incredible."
Im glad for your friend but this still does not prove that atheists kill with a "atheistic motivation". Other religions kill christians too. I doubt that any atheist ever would claim to have murdered for a purpose; atheism.
For example, a muslim terrorist could bomb a bus filled with "infidels" to gain a higher status with allah, so he and his family would be in heaven.. Would it make sense for an atheist terrorist to blow u a bus because he has no religion at all?
The problem is that you are operating on what you think is what must be, and it doesn't work like that.
I would say from reading the bible and the Quran that I would be surprised to see a Christian or a Muslim kill another for the sake of higher status seeing the lack of such codes in the Bible, and the absoluteness of the law against suicide in the Quran.
Atheist: Belief that there is no God, not lack of belief. And a lack of God does not mean a lack of religion.
For example, if one were to believe in pure reason, and if one were to reason that people of a certain belief contrary to your own is stupid, and stupidity is useless to society, and we want to have a pure society, then therefore you would perhaps conclude that the only way to make a pure or perfect society would be to convince them all of this belief, and to get rid of ( deport, murder etc,) those who did not, A la Hitler.
Another example would be if you believe that the ultimate source of our life is through violence and fighting ( Survival of the fittest for example), and those who are weak must be exterminated. This was a national policy of the British Empire in the late 19th century ( entire groups of people were destroyed by this policy) on the basis of Eugenics, a pseudo science strongly propagated by the atheistic community in the early 20th century.
The problem I now have is that you have rejected my major evidence without properly hearing me out ( though this may be different in your opinion, please feel free to correct me). There are other pieces of evidence but I will need to double check to make sure it's accurate.
I really strongly hope that you are able to look at my evidence as evidence, instead of as an emotional attack on your sensibilities, as you seem to have done - though I am not sure.
@BleedingSunday And you have shown zero evidence, merely a belief based on populous ideas.
I have had at different times in my life had atheists express a distinct desire to kill all Christians because " They were polluting the planet and ruining science". I have had much hate, distrust, and anger placed upon me by atheists.
What, do you think people will be inherently good?
In my opinion from reading the Limbardo experiment and other such experiments on human nature (shock experiment for example), humanity will degenerate into a violent mess the moment you think there will be zero recourse from your actions, the moment that you realize that if you hurt and harm someone that nothing will come back to you. People want themselves to feel better, and those who are selfless and so on are the very rare exception, more common in religious crowds.
Zero recourse from your actions huh. So youre trying to tell me that atheist have 1) no morals at all, in any way 2) laws do not count for non religious people.
And youre still thinking youre right in this "discussion"? To be honest; based on your post here i think youre a total idiot..
No by no means, what I had written originally was that those who are selfless are the very rare exception, though they are more common in religious crowds.
Though,to be brutally honest, from every single one of your posts you have shown yourself to be an ignorant, uneducated, unintelligent, unkind, uncultured person, and unworthy to engage in any intellectual discussion. However, I am open to a change of opinion about you.
Ofcouse you feel that way, simply because you cannot understand grade 2 logic. Believers cannot be open, contradictio in terminis there..
And again; your statements false, lies and your last way out.. Every single post you made is filled with assumptional bullshit, anyone with a iq above 85 would see that. Stop trying to attack me personally but reflect on your own logic.
@BleedingSunday Answer me this one question: why are you stating "assumptional (Assumptive) bullshit" while decrying myself on the very same point?
Yes a believer can be completely open minded, I believe in one thing and am open to change it if it is shown to be a better way. A scientist would not tell you any different about their method of life. However, I will not do so unless evidence is provided.
You assume it's my last way out, and I feel as if you are trying to take a cowards way out.
From what I have seen, you have definitely shown yourself to be at a Gr.2 logic level.
However, I will reflect my logic, show me my error.
You said that an atheist would never (as in not ever) kill out of a belief that there is no God, so I responded out of my knowledge that Stalin killed many in Soviet Russia for being Christian because he considered the belief in a God to be wrong ( as shown, in my opinion, by the fact that he killed many Christians and razed many churches,
@BleedingSunday a historical fact). You stated that it cannot be that it was because of his atheist beliefs that he ordered such a violent event, but instead must be something else ( presumably because he is a person who liked killing people and ordering their deaths).
So I gave the Columbine shootings as an example, which, from the information I have read is an excellent example of people who killed because they believed in natural selection to root " stupid people" (Christians) from society.
Belief influences behaviour, and when your beliefs are that those who think different than you are stupid, and that natural selection favours the intelligent, and that those who are unintelligent are "ruining the species" ( as an atheist friend of mine said), then I would reason that the natural course of action is to remove those who are "ruining the species", benefitting everyone.
@BleedingSunday My logic goes even deeper down to this level:
We are created through natural processes of violence ( a la discovery channel) and natural selection, We are improved through natural selection, so use natural selection on those who are bringing down the species.
That's my train of logic of why I think it is not unlikely for an unstable person who believes in atheism to kill people out of his or her belief.
We are created by self replicating dna, not evolution. Evolution has his parts in it but thats a total different subject here.. At the moment, well more since lets say the year 1800 natural selection stopped having his effect on mankind due to science and healthcare.
I would never doubt that an atheist, or theist for that matter, would be able to kill without any religious motivation, but an atheist cannot, ever kill due to a religious motivation; contradictio in terminis.
@BleedingSunday Self replicating dna? How do you mean by that? Have we stopped reproducing sexually? Also, it seems your argument also ignores that healthcare is hardly universal,and even the places that have it, it is often not provided to everyone. People of lesser health still die, and people who are viewed as "Weak" don't reproduce ( heck, looking at the numbers barely anyone reproduces these days in the west), So 'Natural Selection' still plays a part.
@BleedingSunday Your view is incredibly narrow, judging from the fact that I have given you evidence and you neither listened, researched or attempted to actually reason with me. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them ignorant. I suggest reading more into the subject of religion, belief, scientific inquiry and debate.
Creating a straw man, telling me it's bad, refusing to listen to the opposing point and then running when it's over your head is the coward's way out. Good day.
@BleedingSunday Also, religion does not necessarily involve a God. Definition 4 on h ttp://w ww. google .ca/search?q=definition+of+religion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=qtz&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=religion&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=OcvOTdLVN9PTgAfyj5y6DA&ved=0CCAQkQ4&fp=65d1d89e1695987d is "A pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance"
You just defined a hobby. Not a religion. A religion does require a god, or any similair archetypical being. Following your definition of a religion, work is a relgion, so is entertaiment, enjoying a day off, writing a book and doing some diy work around the house..
Anything that you hold in supreme importance and view as being above all things can become a religion of sorts, even silly things.
I know a person who has a specific routine in his life for everything and actually holds the routine above his friends and family ( He doesn't keep girlfriends for long).That which in the end controls your behaviour and is a "guiding light" in any sense can be a religion.
Like Communism in the communist countries controls their decisions for life.
So, if you hold natural selection as supreme, and you believe that there is no higher power to restrict your behaviour and there is no rational reason why killing is wrong in this sense, then you can very well kill out of an atheistic motivation.
However, I'm curious what's your rational for the belief that since the year 1800 natural selection stopped?
You assume too much. For example; natural selection does not explain behavior in the way we talk about behavior, neither does it effect the genes to actually have any control over it. I wonder why you even post such things..
Again: stop assuming and start reading; natual selection didnt stop, but it stopped having its effects on mankind, and i explained why.
@BleedingSunday Even adding to that, I have had atheists come up to me telling me that all christians should die, literally, because " You're all believing in some supernatural b.s., and the sooner we get rid of all the people believe the sooner we become super evolved" Quote unquote, so do not say to me that this doesn't happen.
I have given an analysis ( though perhaps not the greatest one over the 6 some posts), now you give yours.
The Columbine Massacre was one of the most covered news stories in the nineties. I may have been young when they happened, but I still was aware of them.
Which ideas came from a 'higher entity'?
I am very aware of the differences between something that comes from my own head and something that comes from without, just the same as I can tell it is not I that I am having a debate with, but instead you.
As im not a us citenzen i have no knowlegde of the Columbine Massacre other than shallow stories, but i never heard of any relgious part of motivation, neither did i found such a thing on the wiki page about it. So im missing the connection here?
Also, recognize that everyone has not had your embittering experience with 'religion', and that just because people have an experience you don't have doesn't make them liars.
You may think I'm lying, but I have seen spirits and dark things come out and it wasn't a matter of opinion as I sat there and had a brown alert as the other people in my family saw these things. It wasn't a hallucination as it was seen just as clearly with the same attributes as others in my family.
Common knowledge is merely a cop out to ignorance and laziness.
What percentage of the brain is in use at any given point in time? If you answered 10%, you would be wrong.
Common people in all the middle ages couldn't read, true or false? If you answered true, you would be wrong.
Never excuse common knowledge for actual knowledge. Most common knowledge is a mixture of myths and insecurities perpetuated by people with old or pointless information.
@BleedingSunday Your arguments that an Atheist would never kill a person because of his beliefs, and that all wars are caused by 'Religion', and that it's the nature of the ' religion' not the exception. Also, your seeming belief that all wars are morally wrong, which is a very interesting belief,
My argument still stands; an atheist wouldnt kill because he is an atheist. You can state that atheist kill people, wich i agree on, and state that some atheist would like to kill believers, wich i dont deny either. But (they didnt kill and) that movitivation was not caused by a lack of religion, but due to a religous beliefe from the other person.
@BleedingSunday ... and that it is the most sustainable option for human development.
I think that almost all the bad rep that Christianity has received has been due to those who don`t either desire to follow it truly or who don`t understand it.
The Bible is actually really a lot more about the relationship with the creator and humanity, and humanity and humanity. It makes very few scientific arguments, and those that are contested are not scientific, but historic....
... and unfortunately history is entirely opinion ( especially when you have source documents that say different things and you have to make a decision based upon what you believe is more likely).
All wars caused by religion, certainly not, but alot of them are. This is confimed by certain rules in religion; unity, placing yourself above others, the believing n afterlife etc.
I do wonder where you got the idea that was is morally wrong? I certainly never said such a thing..
So whats left to analyse on my part? I was hoping for a bit more than a monoloque..
@BleedingSunday I actually wish to apologize, there is a large percentage of this conversation that I did not see, partially due to my inbox not updating, and partially due to misreading. Your arguments came off as a lot more trollish than they actually were, and I responded in a way that mirrored my misperception. I apologize for that.
None of the `Western` religions state that you are above anyone else. Quite to the contrary, you`re supposed to be the servant of all.
@BleedingSunday So, now that I have fully read more of what you had to say ( again, I apologize), what are your beliefs? Why do you believe that way?
I will start. I am a Christian, I believe that Jesus Christ did walk the earth and that he did show humanity the best way of living ( kindness, compassion, helping others, and trying to find the best things and uphold them). I believe this way because I have found it to be the best way of dealing with human interaction...
Tamgore your an idiot. War is never about religion its all about power and wealth. Religious figure heads are usually around saying that the war is about religion and other bull crap but really all their after is more power to influence people they didn't have power over. They use and manipulate their people to get more pull by saying it's about their religion, but if we are being honest its not. They have a secret agenda to gain more power. Wow lost my point within my rant :/ oh well :)
idc about religous beliefs but facts are facts. This Providence gives a god shout out every show ive been to of theirs and consider themselves a Christian band.
religion differences shouldnt keep us all apart. why bother so much,when we are happy by the end of the day? btw,love this providence.and i aint no christian :)
ONE THING I HATE ABOUT LOOKING AT "Christian Bands." VIDEO COMMENTS IS THAT SOMEONE WILL START THE WHOLE ARE THEY OR ARE THEY NOT A "Christian Band." FIGHT. RELIGION AND MUSIC SHOULD SOMETIMES NEVER GO TOGETHER LIKE RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT. SOO WHY DON'T WE JUST LISTENING TO THIS SONG AND LOVE OR HATE AND THEN MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW GOOD IT IS .
P.S I think this ONE song is about God AND I LOVE IT
haha I just love how you all are talking about religion in a video. Seriously? CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER Religion doesn't even need to be brought up. Saying you don't like a certain religion is wrong no matter what you believe in It's not like there saying BURN THE ATHEIST. Or whatever you are Frankly I dont care. Whoever started this topic is fucking stupid. Grow up. End of another pointless argument. Btw. I love this band(:
i just found these guys like a few weeks ago n they rock! im diggn on em fo sho:) if u ppl r n2 these guys then u'll dig on the band called parachute check em out!
don't flip out on that person. everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs. i'm christian and my best friend is atheist. just accept it and move on
I dont like the fact that you assume Im an atheist. But whatever. And isnt that what religious people do? Tell other people what theyre doing is wrong? "If you dont read the bible or go to church then you're going to hell".
And also, i have a huge problem with "how can you say to another human that they are doing wrong". You're telling me that if someone murdered someone, I would be wrong to tell them that what they did was wrong? Dont preach to me. End of story.
Well thats the thing, some people think you will if you dont go to church or whatever. Everybody believes something different, so who are we to say that there's only one right thing to believe?
I get what you're saying though, about human nature and all.
wow...i mean just wow. i got this album when it first came out and listened over and over. so needless to say, after awhile i moved to a new band. well i recently met a girl who loves this bad as much as i do, so cause of her i started listening again. they truly are incredible...his voice is just amazing. he has suc ch a vocal influence on me. not many bands these days have new albums as good as their originals and i must say this may even top their last album. sorry for the length guys..
they were so cute back then. i actually got interested in them because i saw they were the featured artist on purevolume. i thought "hey they're pretty hot" turns out they had great music too. im so glad i got into them.
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andreasacount222 2 months ago
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andreasacount222 2 months ago
I HEART MUSIC
^_^
icrissy123 3 months ago in playlist coolcat
this song is just like my life. I lost my best friend, and it looks like they aren't coming back..
TheBrookster3000 5 months ago
awesome song
TheLonelyPixels 5 months ago
3 people are retarded...
TheCodAddiction1 7 months ago
there are christian bands? that make music like this song? where?
iloveyoujoex3 7 months ago
Okay... It's okay to have an opinion but sometimes it's rude! So remember if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all(:
I LOVE THIS SONG! :D <3
wezbgood621 7 months ago
Clicked "The New Favorite" button.
kervin3233 7 months ago
Is this a Christian band? D:
pphnx 1 year ago
luv it
brittbrightx 1 year ago
I need somebody to talk to...msn?
dumbasschild 1 year ago
listen to the song...it might be about God...or it might be about a guy who's in love...or it could be about any other kind of religion.
goodness, it could virtually be about anything. and no matter what it's about, music is all about EXPRESSION not ARGUMENT. please, you don't have to agree on anything, but don't argue with people you don't even know.
StayHappyAndSmile 1 year ago 6
Religion?? Since when did that start causing arguments bout music??
aKidwhoLovesMusic 1 year ago 15
This Band is so f-ing Rad!!! their sound is so different, and i love that guitar! The first time i heard this band was on a Beta Records video on youtube!
MrMusicfan67 1 year ago
I like thiss song! :) Even after all my mistakes you came throughh <3
chrisdrew4life 1 year ago
wow.. so many fights =/
zsaradolphin 1 year ago
Music and religion shouldn't go together?
Your saying this cause your getting irritated at the youtube arguments.
Music is way to express oneself, it has no boundaries.
So yes, music can totally mix with religion, and that's why we have this great music.
its a misconception to think that most wars start because of religion.
Most wars start because of greed. Governments go to war because they want to expand their influence.
91Wolverine91 1 year ago
@91Wolverine91
Athiest will never kill other people because they think different about things.. Atheist wont 'kill infidels!'. Atheists dont want to own jerusalem. Atheists dont make substances illegal because a fairytale told them so. Atheist wont do harm and be forgive the next day, so they can still go to heaven. Athiests dont stone people. Atheists dont force other people to believe what they do. Atheists dont blow up buildings, of become suicidebombers.
BleedingSunday 1 year ago
@BleedingSunday
Your argument is a fallacy. You understood wrong and you respond incorrectly. Anyway, continuing with your flow of things... Are you an atheist? Cause it seems to me like you do force you beliefs onto other people as this response indicates. And who's attacking who here? Im a christian and ive never stoned anyone. You act like atheists dont do things. There are evil people everywher!. Your judging christians for the evil a few of them did. Appreciate our cause and dont judge.
91Wolverine91 1 year ago
@91Wolverine91
No no, Im just stating the facts, you shouldnt reflect it onto yourself. Therefore im not forcing my beliefs at all, more like a spindocter. Im letting people choose whether to go for fact or fiction.
I never said atheist dont do harm, but in general, atheists can/may think for themself, they make decisions based on logic instead of rules given by a fictional book. Ps. One word: Crusades, atheists never had crusades!
BleedingSunday 1 year ago
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@91Wolverine91
No no, Im just stating the facts, you shouldnt reflect it onto yourself. Therefore im not forcing my beliefs at all, more like a spindocter. Im letting people choose whether to go for fact or fiction.
I never said atheist dont do harm, but in general, atheists can/may think for themself, they make decisions based on logic instead of rules given by a fictional book. Ps. One word: Crusades, atheists never had crusades!
BleedingSunday 1 year ago
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@91Wolverine91
No no, Im just stating the facts, you shouldnt reflect it onto yourself. Therefore im not forcing my beliefs at all, more like a spindocter. Im letting people choose whether to go for fact or fiction.
I never said atheist dont do harm, but in general, atheists can/may think for themself, they make decisions based on logic instead of rules given by a fictional book. Ps. One word: Crusades, atheists never had crusades!
BleedingSunday 1 year ago
@91Wolverine91
Oh, and ironicly, its my job to judge people and defend the innocent.
BleedingSunday 1 year ago
@BleedingSunday A christians job is to be a servant, not a judge to anyone.
nagzul 1 year ago
@BleedingSunday hahaha you are sooo smart. i could be an atheist and i could've killed somebody and you'd never know. that alone makes your whole arguement void. and pointless hahaha
hateboardlove 1 year ago
@hateboardlove
No it doesnt, read it again. Or are you an atheist killing for god....
BleedingSunday 1 year ago
@BleedingSunday kay, reaad it again, all i got was the first line, an athiest would never kill.. right there you are wrong because you can't say every athiest in the word hasn't killed somebody.
hateboardlove 1 year ago
@hateboardlove
You read it again, i never said that atheist never killed anyone, i said that they never killed someone because or religious beliefs.
And yes i can state that every atheist in the world hasnt killed somebody, because not all atheists did.
BleedingSunday 1 year ago
@BleedingSunday
I am afraid you really need to look at your history my friend.
Starting with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. Peut-être Hitler aussi.
War is an entirely different matter than the genocides put upon by these gentlemen, who were atheists.
Also, all the things you have mentioned are from ignorance, both your own personal ignorance and the ignorance of those who did the actions you mentioned.
Oh, and the stoning you mention were national laws - not arbitrary personal laws.
kingdomfalls 11 months ago
@kingdomfalls
A cow is meat, so all meat comes from a cow... riiiight?
loltalkingaboutignorance
BleedingSunday 11 months ago
@kingdomfalls
Oh and do inform yourself on this so called history you talk of, because you have no idea and are just repeating whatever you heard.. because stalin and hitler were not atheists. Not that it would matter, but just to correct your propaganda lies.
BleedingSunday 11 months ago
@BleedingSunday
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God... all this talk about God is sheer nonsense." -Joseph Stalin. E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin
It's your history that needs correcting, and your propaganda that needs rewriting.
Joseph Stalin was a fierce atheist, and by the Holocaust, Hitler was as well, as his actions were based on an application of only the fittest should survive.
Also, Stalin killed people for believing different than him. Research "Gulags",
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
You just made that up. Your lack of actual knowledge is no excuse for trying to bullshit yourself into a discussion.
Why dont you do us all a favor and read some books?
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
I try to be honest. You, sir, do me a great injustice.Having studied the USSR and it's founding roots I feel confident in saying that Stalin and the USSR were atheist in their nature. Especially during the Stalinist regime, where they razed churches and killed thousands from the clergy.
However, I would be willing to learn from you if you were able to show me, through primary sources, the truth.
Balls in your court, show me your evidence.
Maybe we could both learn something.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Also, this book seems rather interesting. Me currently being in a French speaking province I am unable to read it, but I think that it's a good source, perhaps - E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin .
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Also, a point I had not mentioned was the people I have known who came from under the Red Curtain. An acquaintance of mine had told me that " Once I was free of the soviet rule ( he had escaped through the Ukrainian border I believe), the first thing I did was go to church - the reason for this being that if you were caught as a Christian under Soviet rule you were either executed or taken to the Gulags. Now to have that freedom of belief, that was truly incredible."
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
Im glad for your friend but this still does not prove that atheists kill with a "atheistic motivation". Other religions kill christians too. I doubt that any atheist ever would claim to have murdered for a purpose; atheism.
For example, a muslim terrorist could bomb a bus filled with "infidels" to gain a higher status with allah, so he and his family would be in heaven.. Would it make sense for an atheist terrorist to blow u a bus because he has no religion at all?
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
The problem is that you are operating on what you think is what must be, and it doesn't work like that.
I would say from reading the bible and the Quran that I would be surprised to see a Christian or a Muslim kill another for the sake of higher status seeing the lack of such codes in the Bible, and the absoluteness of the law against suicide in the Quran.
Atheist: Belief that there is no God, not lack of belief. And a lack of God does not mean a lack of religion.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
For example, if one were to believe in pure reason, and if one were to reason that people of a certain belief contrary to your own is stupid, and stupidity is useless to society, and we want to have a pure society, then therefore you would perhaps conclude that the only way to make a pure or perfect society would be to convince them all of this belief, and to get rid of ( deport, murder etc,) those who did not, A la Hitler.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
Another example would be if you believe that the ultimate source of our life is through violence and fighting ( Survival of the fittest for example), and those who are weak must be exterminated. This was a national policy of the British Empire in the late 19th century ( entire groups of people were destroyed by this policy) on the basis of Eugenics, a pseudo science strongly propagated by the atheistic community in the early 20th century.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
The problem I now have is that you have rejected my major evidence without properly hearing me out ( though this may be different in your opinion, please feel free to correct me). There are other pieces of evidence but I will need to double check to make sure it's accurate.
I really strongly hope that you are able to look at my evidence as evidence, instead of as an emotional attack on your sensibilities, as you seem to have done - though I am not sure.
Have a good night/morning.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls You have supplied me with no evidence at all. And thats not a matter of opionions
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
Perhaps you have missed what I have said but I intended to give the evidence at a later time ( now).
How about the Columbine shootings?
" people that only know
stu*id facts that aren’t important should be shot
what f***ing use are they. NATURAL SELECTION.
Kill all ret*rds…"
[page 85]
ht tp:// denver.rockymountainnews. com/pdf/900columbinedocs.pdf
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
Dylan: “What would J-sus do? What the f**k would I do..?” (he acts like he’s shooting the camera with his hand, with sound)
Eric: “I would shoot you in the mo****f***ing head! Go Romans! Thank G-d they crucified that a****le.”
ht tp :// w ww. acolumbinesite . com/ quotes1. ht ml
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday And you have shown zero evidence, merely a belief based on populous ideas.
I have had at different times in my life had atheists express a distinct desire to kill all Christians because " They were polluting the planet and ruining science". I have had much hate, distrust, and anger placed upon me by atheists.
What, do you think people will be inherently good?
W R O N G.
Limbardo experiment my friend"
ht tp://w ww. prisonexp. org/
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
In my opinion from reading the Limbardo experiment and other such experiments on human nature (shock experiment for example), humanity will degenerate into a violent mess the moment you think there will be zero recourse from your actions, the moment that you realize that if you hurt and harm someone that nothing will come back to you. People want themselves to feel better, and those who are selfless and so on are the very rare exception, more common in religious crowds.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
Zero recourse from your actions huh. So youre trying to tell me that atheist have 1) no morals at all, in any way 2) laws do not count for non religious people.
And youre still thinking youre right in this "discussion"? To be honest; based on your post here i think youre a total idiot..
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
No by no means, what I had written originally was that those who are selfless are the very rare exception, though they are more common in religious crowds.
Though,to be brutally honest, from every single one of your posts you have shown yourself to be an ignorant, uneducated, unintelligent, unkind, uncultured person, and unworthy to engage in any intellectual discussion. However, I am open to a change of opinion about you.
Prove yourself.
Make an effort.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
Ofcouse you feel that way, simply because you cannot understand grade 2 logic. Believers cannot be open, contradictio in terminis there..
And again; your statements false, lies and your last way out.. Every single post you made is filled with assumptional bullshit, anyone with a iq above 85 would see that. Stop trying to attack me personally but reflect on your own logic.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Answer me this one question: why are you stating "assumptional (Assumptive) bullshit" while decrying myself on the very same point?
Yes a believer can be completely open minded, I believe in one thing and am open to change it if it is shown to be a better way. A scientist would not tell you any different about their method of life. However, I will not do so unless evidence is provided.
You assume it's my last way out, and I feel as if you are trying to take a cowards way out.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
From what I have seen, you have definitely shown yourself to be at a Gr.2 logic level.
However, I will reflect my logic, show me my error.
You said that an atheist would never (as in not ever) kill out of a belief that there is no God, so I responded out of my knowledge that Stalin killed many in Soviet Russia for being Christian because he considered the belief in a God to be wrong ( as shown, in my opinion, by the fact that he killed many Christians and razed many churches,
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday a historical fact). You stated that it cannot be that it was because of his atheist beliefs that he ordered such a violent event, but instead must be something else ( presumably because he is a person who liked killing people and ordering their deaths).
So I gave the Columbine shootings as an example, which, from the information I have read is an excellent example of people who killed because they believed in natural selection to root " stupid people" (Christians) from society.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday My logic is this:
Belief influences behaviour, and when your beliefs are that those who think different than you are stupid, and that natural selection favours the intelligent, and that those who are unintelligent are "ruining the species" ( as an atheist friend of mine said), then I would reason that the natural course of action is to remove those who are "ruining the species", benefitting everyone.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday My logic goes even deeper down to this level:
We are created through natural processes of violence ( a la discovery channel) and natural selection, We are improved through natural selection, so use natural selection on those who are bringing down the species.
That's my train of logic of why I think it is not unlikely for an unstable person who believes in atheism to kill people out of his or her belief.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
We are created by self replicating dna, not evolution. Evolution has his parts in it but thats a total different subject here.. At the moment, well more since lets say the year 1800 natural selection stopped having his effect on mankind due to science and healthcare.
I would never doubt that an atheist, or theist for that matter, would be able to kill without any religious motivation, but an atheist cannot, ever kill due to a religious motivation; contradictio in terminis.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Self replicating dna? How do you mean by that? Have we stopped reproducing sexually? Also, it seems your argument also ignores that healthcare is hardly universal,and even the places that have it, it is often not provided to everyone. People of lesser health still die, and people who are viewed as "Weak" don't reproduce ( heck, looking at the numbers barely anyone reproduces these days in the west), So 'Natural Selection' still plays a part.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
No. I suggest reading more about this subject, your view is too narrow to give this disussion any more meaning. Good day
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Your view is incredibly narrow, judging from the fact that I have given you evidence and you neither listened, researched or attempted to actually reason with me. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them ignorant. I suggest reading more into the subject of religion, belief, scientific inquiry and debate.
Creating a straw man, telling me it's bad, refusing to listen to the opposing point and then running when it's over your head is the coward's way out. Good day.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
Bad trolling there.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Also, religion does not necessarily involve a God. Definition 4 on h ttp://w ww. google .ca/search?q=definition+of+religion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=qtz&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=religion&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=OcvOTdLVN9PTgAfyj5y6DA&ved=0CCAQkQ4&fp=65d1d89e1695987d is "A pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance"
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
You just defined a hobby. Not a religion. A religion does require a god, or any similair archetypical being. Following your definition of a religion, work is a relgion, so is entertaiment, enjoying a day off, writing a book and doing some diy work around the house..
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
Anything that you hold in supreme importance and view as being above all things can become a religion of sorts, even silly things.
I know a person who has a specific routine in his life for everything and actually holds the routine above his friends and family ( He doesn't keep girlfriends for long).That which in the end controls your behaviour and is a "guiding light" in any sense can be a religion.
Like Communism in the communist countries controls their decisions for life.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
You just ended this "discussion". There is no way i will debate someone who lost track of defintions.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
So, if you hold natural selection as supreme, and you believe that there is no higher power to restrict your behaviour and there is no rational reason why killing is wrong in this sense, then you can very well kill out of an atheistic motivation.
However, I'm curious what's your rational for the belief that since the year 1800 natural selection stopped?
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
You assume too much. For example; natural selection does not explain behavior in the way we talk about behavior, neither does it effect the genes to actually have any control over it. I wonder why you even post such things..
Again: stop assuming and start reading; natual selection didnt stop, but it stopped having its effects on mankind, and i explained why.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Even adding to that, I have had atheists come up to me telling me that all christians should die, literally, because " You're all believing in some supernatural b.s., and the sooner we get rid of all the people believe the sooner we become super evolved" Quote unquote, so do not say to me that this doesn't happen.
I have given an analysis ( though perhaps not the greatest one over the 6 some posts), now you give yours.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
And did they kill them?
And did those idea's come from a 'higher' entity?
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
Yes they did kill them.
The Columbine Massacre was one of the most covered news stories in the nineties. I may have been young when they happened, but I still was aware of them.
Which ideas came from a 'higher entity'?
I am very aware of the differences between something that comes from my own head and something that comes from without, just the same as I can tell it is not I that I am having a debate with, but instead you.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
As im not a us citenzen i have no knowlegde of the Columbine Massacre other than shallow stories, but i never heard of any relgious part of motivation, neither did i found such a thing on the wiki page about it. So im missing the connection here?
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
Also, recognize that everyone has not had your embittering experience with 'religion', and that just because people have an experience you don't have doesn't make them liars.
You may think I'm lying, but I have seen spirits and dark things come out and it wasn't a matter of opinion as I sat there and had a brown alert as the other people in my family saw these things. It wasn't a hallucination as it was seen just as clearly with the same attributes as others in my family.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
Im not qualified to judge your mental condition.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday
And those ideas did not come from a 'higher entity'.
However, I'm still waiting on your analysis. I'm trying to give you the chance to be recognized that you seem to crave, so take advantage of it.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
My analysis of what? I dont need to analysis the amount of wars started because a lack of religion, this is all common knowledge; none.
Your argument; that fe hitler was an atheist, was disproven long time ago.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Common knowledge means nothing!
Common knowledge is merely a cop out to ignorance and laziness.
What percentage of the brain is in use at any given point in time? If you answered 10%, you would be wrong.
Common people in all the middle ages couldn't read, true or false? If you answered true, you would be wrong.
Never excuse common knowledge for actual knowledge. Most common knowledge is a mixture of myths and insecurities perpetuated by people with old or pointless information.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls No questions were asked, thus i aswered none.
You should try to assume less.. alot less.
Knowlegde=facts. Non fact cannot be labeled as knowlegde, only a lack of.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday Your arguments that an Atheist would never kill a person because of his beliefs, and that all wars are caused by 'Religion', and that it's the nature of the ' religion' not the exception. Also, your seeming belief that all wars are morally wrong, which is a very interesting belief,
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls
My argument still stands; an atheist wouldnt kill because he is an atheist. You can state that atheist kill people, wich i agree on, and state that some atheist would like to kill believers, wich i dont deny either. But (they didnt kill and) that movitivation was not caused by a lack of religion, but due to a religous beliefe from the other person.
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday ... and that it is the most sustainable option for human development.
I think that almost all the bad rep that Christianity has received has been due to those who don`t either desire to follow it truly or who don`t understand it.
The Bible is actually really a lot more about the relationship with the creator and humanity, and humanity and humanity. It makes very few scientific arguments, and those that are contested are not scientific, but historic....
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
... and unfortunately history is entirely opinion ( especially when you have source documents that say different things and you have to make a decision based upon what you believe is more likely).
Where are you from by the way?
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@kingdomfalls god doesnt exist cock sucker lol
RemixTheUniverse 9 months ago
All wars caused by religion, certainly not, but alot of them are. This is confimed by certain rules in religion; unity, placing yourself above others, the believing n afterlife etc.
I do wonder where you got the idea that was is morally wrong? I certainly never said such a thing..
So whats left to analyse on my part? I was hoping for a bit more than a monoloque..
BleedingSunday 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday I actually wish to apologize, there is a large percentage of this conversation that I did not see, partially due to my inbox not updating, and partially due to misreading. Your arguments came off as a lot more trollish than they actually were, and I responded in a way that mirrored my misperception. I apologize for that.
None of the `Western` religions state that you are above anyone else. Quite to the contrary, you`re supposed to be the servant of all.
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
@BleedingSunday So, now that I have fully read more of what you had to say ( again, I apologize), what are your beliefs? Why do you believe that way?
I will start. I am a Christian, I believe that Jesus Christ did walk the earth and that he did show humanity the best way of living ( kindness, compassion, helping others, and trying to find the best things and uphold them). I believe this way because I have found it to be the best way of dealing with human interaction...
kingdomfalls 9 months ago
Tamgore your an idiot. War is never about religion its all about power and wealth. Religious figure heads are usually around saying that the war is about religion and other bull crap but really all their after is more power to influence people they didn't have power over. They use and manipulate their people to get more pull by saying it's about their religion, but if we are being honest its not. They have a secret agenda to gain more power. Wow lost my point within my rant :/ oh well :)
Goody102 1 year ago 2
idc about religous beliefs but facts are facts. This Providence gives a god shout out every show ive been to of theirs and consider themselves a Christian band.
abdu123 1 year ago
YES I AGREE TO TAMGORE.
religion differences shouldnt keep us all apart. why bother so much,when we are happy by the end of the day? btw,love this providence.and i aint no christian :)
yanersaysboom5 1 year ago
End this religion shit comments. This Providence and this song has nothing to do with that. comment on the SONG.
amazing song and i freaking love you all dan, david, gavin and andaaay <33
Thistoxiclove 1 year ago 2
They played this at the mod club and it was 1000000% beautiful.
aliciacole93 1 year ago
Is it me or do those four look like someone?
brown hair on the left looks like the one on the right,black hair in the center looks like the other on the right....
JPHJ14 1 year ago
just take it however you want it to, enjoy it and shut up
PineappleDlight 1 year ago
<33333333
accrosthestreetlepor 1 year ago
herd their whole album and its amazing <333
MARISAandIZZY 1 year ago
what's with all these
comment fights?
Just enjoy the song. ^-^<3
Randomxfishies 1 year ago 8
omg look at the guy on the left adams apple hahah its to big it hurts my neck D':
XxchuishwifmehxX 2 years ago
Haha. Gavin. :']
SammieJF 2 years ago
they are all christians but they dont play christian music really they play in between mainstream and christian
thecrazyamnesiacs 2 years ago 2
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this is a critian band? i thought they were talking about girls im pretty sure they are lol
eman82293 2 years ago
i didnt know this was a christian band .. but i still love this song even though im not christian =]
XxhellokittyxX5 2 years ago 2
my best friend, cindy loves this band.
i really only knew one song by them,
i know a lot more now, though .
:D
xRawrEmotion28x 2 years ago
gooooooooooood song <33
mayax911 2 years ago
ONE THING I HATE ABOUT LOOKING AT "Christian Bands." VIDEO COMMENTS IS THAT SOMEONE WILL START THE WHOLE ARE THEY OR ARE THEY NOT A "Christian Band." FIGHT. RELIGION AND MUSIC SHOULD SOMETIMES NEVER GO TOGETHER LIKE RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT. SOO WHY DON'T WE JUST LISTENING TO THIS SONG AND LOVE OR HATE AND THEN MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT HOW GOOD IT IS .
P.S I think this ONE song is about God AND I LOVE IT
kilakam09 2 years ago 38
@kilakam09 P.S. I think you're Caps Lock key is broken.
trollbutonlyafter10 8 months ago
this. <3
acmbabby 2 years ago
i'm absolutely in love with this song,
&& david blaise<33.
allstarbabydoll 2 years ago 4
This Providence is a band of unabashed Christians. But, they don't label themselves as a "Christian Band."
ccrushcrushcrush 2 years ago 4
when did religions get started on here? @.@
btw, this is an amazing song.(;
Every song this band has is amazing<3
XxXCaseyBooXxX 2 years ago
i luv this band soo much :)
mayberandom2u 2 years ago
i love david!!! his lil angelic face =) ^^ and this song is so sweet
kriskrossify 2 years ago 3
haha I love that picture!
mIsSsaLysSa 2 years ago
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personally i think all religons are completely made up.
meredithlentz 2 years ago
@meredithlentz
jikes, risky statement:P
redmatchbox 2 years ago
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luv this song
Deedzz92 2 years ago
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How am I bringing up another pointless argument when it was already brought up?
How original.
Deester431 2 years ago
who cares. people are entitled to their own beliefs.
religion is what starts most wars which is really quite pathetic.
they preach of love and peace, but will mindlessly kill people of another religion.
us humans are more bestial then animals.. :(
anyways, stop fighting, and enjoy this beautiful song ! hurrrayyyy
tamgore 2 years ago 49
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chrisdrew4life 1 year ago
@chrisdrew4life back to highschool dumbass haha
hateboardlove 1 year ago
Deester431 2 years ago
Way to begin another pointless argument?
CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER 2 years ago
David Blaise is such a cutie :) I saw him at warped
CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER 2 years ago
i met david blaise at warped! it was awesome! hes so hot! lol
judyiscool 2 years ago 5
I know, hes gorgeous :)
CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER 2 years ago
i love this song this providence ROCKS
TheFightformylife 2 years ago 2
she wasnt insulting them
ArchieLover911 2 years ago
exactly
lauren0adams 2 years ago
obviously theyre a christian band, they talk about god in alot of there songs.
lauren0adams 2 years ago
dont insult them like that!
11blank11 2 years ago
i wasnt insulting them. i dont really care if theyre a christian band cause listen to pretty much all their songs.
lauren0adams 2 years ago
thats cute sad... i like =)
XxdonohuexX 2 years ago 2
love !.
ummhahaxoxo 2 years ago
This song really conveys just the right emotion. I love it. They did such a good job. :]
TheSockPuppeteer 2 years ago
i just found these guys like a few weeks ago n they rock! im diggn on em fo sho:) if u ppl r n2 these guys then u'll dig on the band called parachute check em out!
ironorkid76 2 years ago 2
so are you guys still going to like them when you find out this providence is christian band??
tramboarding911 2 years ago
I dont like the fact that theyre christian, but i do love their music :D
CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER 2 years ago
your being a huge hipicrit then.
tramboarding911 2 years ago
If that comment was directed towards me, then I dont see see how im being a "hypocrite". I can like their music, but not their religion.
If it wasnt, then have a good day :)
CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER 2 years ago
i dont like the fact that your a athiest.
how can you say that as a human
say somthing to a other human
that they are doing wrong.
give christianity a chance
then we wont even have to talk about peace
it will just come naturally with it
tramboarding911 2 years ago
don't flip out on that person. everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs. i'm christian and my best friend is atheist. just accept it and move on
underfivefeet 2 years ago 2
I dont like the fact that you assume Im an atheist. But whatever. And isnt that what religious people do? Tell other people what theyre doing is wrong? "If you dont read the bible or go to church then you're going to hell".
And also, i have a huge problem with "how can you say to another human that they are doing wrong". You're telling me that if someone murdered someone, I would be wrong to tell them that what they did was wrong? Dont preach to me. End of story.
CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER 2 years ago
actually you arent going to hell if you dont read the bibnle or go to church. All you have to do to go to heaven is have faith and belive.
Himans shouldnt judge eachother but its hum,an nature. were all bound to do it sooner or later.
LifeSucksForKristin 2 years ago
Well thats the thing, some people think you will if you dont go to church or whatever. Everybody believes something different, so who are we to say that there's only one right thing to believe?
I get what you're saying though, about human nature and all.
CHESTERxTHExMOLESTER 2 years ago
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh love this band and i just found about them a month or so ago.
beautiful541 2 years ago
I ♥ this song
paigefellhardbaby 2 years ago
i just saw this band on mtv so i decided to look them up....how have i never heard this band they are amazing!!
berbabe14 2 years ago 5
i lovee this song!(:
brookster16 2 years ago
i love them !
it's hard to believe they played with relient k, i don't know why. i first started liking them when i heard them live at the relient k concert, ;)
Sarahhhhhhx5 2 years ago
wait so reliant k is a christian band so are they too?
tramboarding911 2 years ago
ya they are
KoreanEugene 2 years ago
this song brings back soo many memories, oddly.
but it's an amazing. it makes me think.
jadepolach 2 years ago
I'm so happy their music video "Let Down" was featured on MTV.
It's like GOD DAMN IT, They should've been popular WAYYY back then.
mthfckooo9 2 years ago 3
im glad they are FINALLY getting more recognition! :)
they have been out for years! and they deserve everything!
lovelife612 2 years ago
<3 (((((((((:
itsmarisababe 2 years ago
wow...i mean just wow. i got this album when it first came out and listened over and over. so needless to say, after awhile i moved to a new band. well i recently met a girl who loves this bad as much as i do, so cause of her i started listening again. they truly are incredible...his voice is just amazing. he has suc ch a vocal influence on me. not many bands these days have new albums as good as their originals and i must say this may even top their last album. sorry for the length guys..
DantRob06 2 years ago 5
seeing them saturday can't wait :]
aylakayermanopay 2 years ago
they were so cute back then. i actually got interested in them because i saw they were the featured artist on purevolume. i thought "hey they're pretty hot" turns out they had great music too. im so glad i got into them.
rachelistheowniest 2 years ago 10
This is a good song, first time hearing of This Providence. Like there songs already :]
MamiiBreezii 2 years ago 7
The song's pretty good
And
Awesome pic :D!
Friggingtard 2 years ago 4
does anyone know the chords?
Lasports101 2 years ago
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its called google, learn how to use it.[:
TheUsedisLife 2 years ago
yeah asshole i tried that and it didnt work so be helpfull not a dick so fuk of if you are not going to help
Lasports101 2 years ago
best band EVAH!!!
sunflowergrl300 2 years ago 11
this band is pretty good! i just started listening to them i like it!
unseen14 2 years ago 6
uh. i love you for putting this up. this provvvv is the best! <3
lovexsoccer15 2 years ago 6
wohoo! tp. rocks :)
educb92 2 years ago 3