bottom line is stay out of other countries business.... today vietnam is part of the wto world trade organization.... the booggy man communist is gone and the new boogey man terrorist will soon be gone who is the... The ETs.
@petechandanatural How about Korea? You think it we should've stayed out of their business too? No difference between the North and South that you can notice?
You really are despicable when you say the humanitarian costs were a zero sum game. More people died in the year after the fall of saigon than the previous 10 years combined. The fall of Saigon also led to the genocide in Cambodia which killed 1/3 of that population. People like you make me sick.
Is typical of people who have a simplistic view of Pinochet etc. Allende in Chile was a KGB asset. Pinochet willingly stepped down in a plebsicite in 1988 losing 55-45. The 45 percent who voted to have Pinochet stay in power was higher than the percentage that voted for Allende in 1970. Pinochet saved Chile from becoming another Cuba. Are you really comparing Pinochet's rule to Stalin and other Communists? You are insane.
This video accurately reflects what many of us who served in the military during Viet Nam know to be true regarding the outcome of the war. For purely partisan political reasons, the Democrat Party turned victory into defeat. We never lost a major engagement; militarily, we defeated the North Vietnamese. I have nothing but contempt for those politicians responsible for betraying those who fought and died there.
@jmcnally17 I salute you Sir! But I feel bad to your politician who gave permission to used Agent Orange in Cambodia & Saigon, My heart aches to all the soldiers (US, Vietnamese, NATO members) who died in Vietnam War... And I pray for all the victims of genocide...
I am really really angry right now. The manipulation and ignorance in this video by some idiotic old man who sat thousands of miles away from that war. Even if South Vietnam had held its ground all the way until today that would still have caused a lot of dead Vietnamese. Both north and south. Look at South America. Or Korea.
@mr82769 What are you taling about? I have studied the Vietnam war for years. What the man said was exactly right. Curtis Lemay had been pushing for heavey bombing strikes against Hanoi since the begining of the war. Operation Linebacker and Linebacker II literally destroyed North Vietnams power to wage war. if there was one more massive bombing campaign the war would have probably ended with a US victory. The US military never lost a battle in Vietnam.
@moonshot926 What are YOU talking about?!? You fail to see my point. From a humanitarian standpoint it probably doesnt matter at all. The dictators in South Korea and South America and their involvement with USA proves that. And the USA has bombed the hell out of Afghanistan - would you say that you have won that war?
@mr82769 Yes, if only all of Korea was like the utopia that is North Korea. Yes, more Vietnamese would have died and in no way is that a good thing. But look at the numbers man, at the very least 250,000 innocents were killed by the new brutal Communist regime. And this is after we had already essentially won the war. I am angry that my country could be cowed in to being so cowardly as to condemn those people to death. I am sorry, but your comment is tremendously foolish.
@Sp00ny1985 How many civilians have died in Iraq or Afghanistan? And again, the US supported dictators in South America did quite the job too. Its not only the communists who have been brutal.
I proudly served in Vietnam, and it made me physically ill when the democratic congress withdrew support to South Vietnam after we had pulled out and promised our support. The democrats continue, to this day, to destroy what's left of our country.
Hey, Mr. Herschensohn, I voted for you way back when. You said something that I'll always appreciate with respect to immigration: people are a blessing, not a curse..., or something like that. It was like light shining into darkness. Thanks.
My Dad said, if American didn't leave, Ngo Dinh Diem would not resign and left SV to the communists, he was disappointed that America promised it will help S.V. until the end.
@mkadams99 What does that have to do with Dennis serving in Nam? Let the truth be know that us American
lost that war because of American politics and we let those people down. Is there any honor in being a soldier to you? It is the American way to help people that are being slaughtered. Who are you to criticize those that had to serve Our Country in another way?
@mkadams99 Take it with God Almighty asshole- He who has declared, speaking of Israel- "And I will bless those who bless you And the one who curses you I will curse "..better a goyim boy lay down his life for Israel and favor God then die in Afghanistan defending Muslims or America who calls herself "Christian" yet has murdered 50 million children in abortions and is now letting homosexuals marry and serve openly in the military.
Thank you Dennis and team, very well done. Just watched with my 16 & 19 yr old, so good to open further discussion and research. This summer he was assigned essays by Howard Zinn, yikes! so I had to counter with real, clear thinking historians .. you rock. Gratefully, ochomom09
America has spent the last century fighting one form of "evil" after another. Only to discover even greater evils uncovered by the defeat of the preceding one. Along the way, we have invaded more countries, overthrown more governments, and killed more people than the Nazi's and communists combined. This is not about "winning." It's about morals.
@rctube1958 that is empirically incorrect, you throw around random made up statements based on presumptions on numbers wihtout any analysis whatsoever, people like you are pathethic.
@killerbee2k How many millions have we killed either in fighting, arming and instigating the combatants in both world wars, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua, Honduras, Iraq, Libya, Haiti, Afghanistan, Columbia, Iran, Grenada, .... The list is damn near endless. Face it. We're a war machine. America is a great country, but our leaders have been and are bloodthirsty.
America didn't invade countries, America liberated them.
And America killed ennemy combattants, as it happens during wars.
On the contrary, the nazis killed voluntarily million of civilians; and the Soviet communists did the same; and the Chinese communists did the same; and the Japanese in WWII did the same; and the Muslims did the same; and the Africans in central Africa did the same.
During the 20th century, the nazis are responsible of the deaths of more than 40 million people; the Soviet communists, of more than 100 million; the Chinese communists, of more than 120 million; the Japanese, during WWII, of more than 25 million; the Muslims, of more than 25 million; the Africans, during the wars and genocides in Central Africa, of more than 20 million.
It was wrong for the US to be involved in Vietnam from the beginning. Through brute force America can dominate any country, but should it? Are we to be used by whomever controls D.C. to fulfill their agenda? Is this how we should spend our lives and treasure? And as a American with equal rights to those elected, shouldn't I and others be able to say "No! This is not how I want my money and life to be spent!" and not be coerced into participating. One scam war after another...
Democrats always brought nothing but destruction under the flag of peace, righteousness and false pity. Nothing worse in the world than the uber politically correct left driving the country.
I simply cannot understand where the Democrats are coming from. You would think they don't care anything about this country at all! I just don't get it. Those that fought in Viet Nam and those who were close to it are the ones to listen to. I lost a LOT of friends there and it's heartbreaking! What those brave soldiers went through, no one can understand that wasn't there. They are the ones who know the truth so please listen to them. Those brave soldiers were in HELL. They deserve our praise!
I was there - two tours. When the S. Vietnamese finally elected a popular President who was anti-communist, and a great leader, Nguyen Van Thieu, we abandoned him, cut off military supplies. The reds did not cut off supplies to the north, and the result was inevitable. Multiple folks in the US Congress were guilty of treason and should have been shot for selling out people who died because they trusted us and fought the communists.
It wasn't the withdrawal of military supplies that lost the war. It was our desire to get our American soldiers OUT of Viet Nam! We were sending our young men into constant slaughter. The SV could not effectively fight the NV without our soldiers. We had NO business ever putting our troops on the ground in 1965. Eisenhower would not commit troops unless France also committed. They would not. Kennedy then agreed to send in our troops. Johnson sent them in beginning in 1965.
I was there with naval gunfire support at the cease fire - Jan 27, 1973 supporting SV Marines on the beach (surrounded by NVA). At the cease fire - we stopped shooting and within days (radio contact was maintained) those Marines were wiped out under a mass attack - the NVA using civilians as human shields. The only people who stopped shooting were the US Forces. The SV government was fragile and then the Democrats pulled the plug on a small materiale support some months later - Poof - the end.
@tabrettologist Demopublicans or Republicrats, it's all the same; 95% of them are bought and paid for. The rest are there to give us the illusion that this country can be saved! JFK wanted to start pulling people out of Vietnam in the early '60's but the Military Industrial Complex is too powerful and too much profit is in war for the
Money Changers! Read Gen. Smedley Butler's War is a Racket, and listen to DDE's parting address warning us of such!!
Nixon was in charge of managing the war for four years until the peace accords were signed in Jan 73. It was a flawed agreement, and Nixon knew it. His and Kissinger's priorities were China and detente with the Soviets. In Nixon's recorded words, South Vietnam and Taiwan were foreign policy "irritants."
Nixon miscalculated with the Paris Peace Accords. Most historians, civilian and military, conclude that South Vietnam needed political stability in Saigon and Thieu wasn't it.
It is the hippies & dems fault that we withdrew when we did, BUT it is important that America wins the wars we enter. Losing wars only makes America appear weaker in the world's eyes-an image we cannot afford to have. If our enemies perceive us as incompetent and catering to the "anti-war" sentiment of those dems and hippies, they'll think they have an advantage over us.
This profound elaboration clearly illustrates how America won the war by 1973. And the fact that communist Vietnam is moving towards a more capitalist society proves that America not only won the war militarily, but with ideology, as well.
@heavenlybeast1 No thats not important whether America won or not. South Vietnam lost and have suffered ever since and the democrats and hippies of America are to blame for it. (the left)
Very informative. Imagine if Fox News and conservative talk radio had been around then. Maybe all this misinformation would never have made it's way to 'accepted fact' status.
Visits to Hanoi by Kerry anti-war allies Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and others, he said, "gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal after his retirement, Col. Tin explicitly credited leaders of the U.S. anti-war movement, saying they were "essential to our strategy." "Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9AM to follow the growth of the antiwar movement," Col. Tin told the Journal.
The failed democrat policies of Vietnam led to the disaster of Jimmy Carter and his appeasement toward the Ayatollah Khomenie and led to what we now call ISLAMIC TERRORISM
hey, what's a couple of million civilians raped, tortured & slaughtered and half of Southeast Asia sold out into slavery when we could get another "peace in our time?"
Now instead of having blood on your hands, you can have the news media and Hollywood simply re-write history! Thank you for shining the light on the fraudulent fable of the Vietnam War
It was also found that, some years back when the artives of the old USSR were opened and allowed to be looked at, the soviets had written they were ready to conceed...that they had lost. This was at the same time that those that were so against the war had convienced Americans to pull out. Democrats lost the war for us and today they are still the loudest ones against war and reminding us of the tragedy of Vietnam.
Actually the economic strain Vietnam put on the USSR contributed heavily to the fall of the Russian empire. We are here--they aren't--sounds like we could have handled the Paris treaty better. But a world without the USSR is a better world than one with a USSR. Considerable research has reveled that there actually is a gene that causes the person who has it to be brave--WWI and the machine gun resulted it a population that houses a considerable proportion of people who aren't very brave.
Now I understand fully what Reagan was saying about freedom and how it must be fought by every generation after another. Because the enemy is not only foreign but more commonly its domestic in the democratic party.
Many of our current leaders, of that HORRABLE ERA, should have been tried for sedition and treason. It would have prevented, the continuing and ongoing damage, being done, by their warped minds.
Several leaders of the current Damnocratic Party, were responsible for the
KILLING FIELDS, BOAT PEOPLE, REEDUCATION CAMPS AND BURNING OF ASIAN CITIES.
MURDER OF 20 MILLION PEOPLE AFTER WE PULLED OUT OF " SOUTHEAST ASIA"
Them sedition and treasonist leaders are HURTING the USA TODAY.!! pREcIDENT Hilary, and her hUSAND Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore, Hanoi Jane Fonda, Dick Durbin, James William Fulbright, Ted Kennedy, Senator Mike Mansfield.
Al Gore, Hanoi Jane Fonda, Dick Durbin, James William Fulbright, Ted Kennedy, Senator Mike Mansfield. Al Gore, REPORTING LIES, like CNN's Michael Ware, Water Cronkite, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Colleges UN-uNIVERSITY uNPROFESSORS, MANY of these who AIDED AN ASSISTED OUR ENEMIES.
:O shocking. What did the North Vietnamese generals said about what the US funds what have done? Does ne1 have some quotes from their diaries about the funds Nixon tried to ensure?
Putting it into focus. For those that served SALUTE down South in the Republic That OInce Was Vietnam -- yesterday, tomorrow, and forever. Well done. For thsoe that ran off to Canada -- stay there.
It seems all of us in the U.S. are left to hear the truth that accurs in our lifetime years later. When information comes out like this interview, Americans should stop whatever they are doing and use our new media technology to alert our fellow Americans. Do all you can to help your country!! God Bless America!!
America lost militarily, but it succeeded in ensuring that Vietnam would never serve as a positive example to other countries seeking independence. The annihilated country of Vietnam certainly wasn't going to be a model.
Do you old cannibals squirm with joy when you think about the hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese children who were born with birth defects due to America's chemical bombardments?
The Soviets lost more troops than the Germans during World War 2, but no one would argue that the Germans won the war.
The Vietnamese fought the French, the Japanese, the French again, and then the Americans. It's absurd to think that victory was just on the horizon. America was going to leave eventually.
@jazzsexsoup, no, instead the victorious North Vietnam has become a model.
Do you old lefties celebrate when you think of all the Vietnamese people who were executed or went into labor camps?
You do.
Btw, if you read Graham Greene's "The Quiet American," he is very critical and angry with you lefties, even long before Vietnam War came to any conclusion. And you just took this book, never read it, screwed it up entirely and ran with it.
The Vietnam of 1975 was not going to be a model. The country lost 3 million people, much of its land was poisoned, and the infrastructure was destroyed. America dropped around 7 million tons of bombs on Vietnam - 2 million tons were dropped in WW2.
People hardly ever talk about the Geneva accords. A unification election was planned for 1956, but the democracy-loving government of South Vietnam backed out because they knew that Ho Chi Minh would win. That's when the insurgency began.
This is what I keep telling everyone: Beware of Greeks bearing gifts, beware of Arabs proposing peace, beware of Americans making promises.
One can see a very similar thing happening in Afghanistan today. Americans come to a terrorist-controlled area of the country, through tremendous sacrifice establish a base, create order, then leave. And Taliban comes back, reestablishes their rule and kills everyone who worked with Americans.
This repeats itself again and again. Now Americans are complaining that no local Afghans want to work with them any more. Well, it's clear why, isn't it?
Taliban knows it too, so it retreats and comes back, again and again.
I see the whole war in Iraq as one more example of the same.
And now, when budget deficit is the flavor of the year, there are voices that want to cut troops and spending. There we go, Vietnam part 2.
Even back in WWI, Jabotinsky complained about Americans in his unit, "They fight just as well as anyone, but when there is no military action, they say, 'Either send us to fight or send us home.'"
So as American, I have to confess: Americans have little staying power, little backbone. Not American soldiers - they are terrific. But American establishment, the same that made "innocent Guantanamo prisoners" flavor of the year in 2008 just to get their Obama elected, and American people who elected him.
@SKallday100, I wonder, do people line the streets of Afghanistan to cheer our soldiers today?
Never mind the original reception.
It is the happy illusion of American people that there is nothing worse than a brutal totalitarian dictatorship. America is all built on this dichotomy: good democracy vs. bad dictatorship. But in reality, there is something worse than any dictatorship: civil war.
Afghanis know civil war very well.
I agree with you. But it doesn't negate what I said.
@Kurtlane As long as the west loses influence I don't think the left is all that concerned with the ensueing body counts.Ideology is funny that way.Sacrafices are demanded when ever ideas clash for control.
It was never mentioned that the people of South Vietnam were under a leader that was corrupt and terribly ruthless. America supported him and the people of SV speaking for a majority didn't support him. They wouldn't fight for him. After America left stability in the government fell apart into chaos and disorder. Even with the equipment the people still wouldn't fight. America didn't allow elections because of fear that the Communist would get the power.
@11111Delta, stop lying. South Vietnamese did fight to keep their country. Otherwise South Vietnam would've collapsed right after American troops left.
And compared to North Vietnam's government, the one in the South was very mild.
All you need to do is see the crowds of mothers throwing their babies to evacuating Americans as the North's army was advancing on Saigon. If that's not enough, come here to Little Saigon (Garden Grove, CA) and talk to any Vietnamese.
Losing wars has become the PC stance it seems.You can just pretend conflicts evaporate in to peacefull movements from a progressive panorama.The body counts are irrelavent once the graves are covered up. Left leaners don't seem all that concerned with loss of lives as long as the west loses traction in the process.
One of the most haunting memories I still carry within me was how indifferent my friends and loved ones were to what really happened in Vietnam..I was proud to do my part as a marine who did two tours from 6/66-1/68..No complaints..no regrets..but even today no one wants to hear the truth from the young grunts who were the primary experts of exactly what went wrong..The deepest injury of all was the apathy I encountered upon returning home..hell with it..it's done
@evetsgolb YOU KNOW WHAT DENNIS..I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT AT ALL...PEOPLE WERE INDIFFERENT TO THE WAR..AND OUR OWN PEER GROUP WAS SO BRAIN WASHED BY THE MEDIA AND DIRTY POLITICIANS..THAT WE LEARNED THE HARD TRUTH WAS THAT WE WERE THE ONES WHO LOST THAT WAR...AND IF YOU ONLY KNEW..WHAT PRICE WE PAID TO A V.A. SYSTEM THAT WAS THE GREATEST ENEMY WE WOULD EVER ENCOUNTER IN OUR LIVES..YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE WHAT REALLY WENT DOWN,,..AND IT'S TO LATE NOW TO TELL IT ..THANKS ANYWAY
@9Apilot Perhaps that was about the same time winning became a negative expression in the ranks of the elite, US based liberal educators.Maybe they decided conflicts could reasoned away with wishfull thinking and intellectual word play.Pretending some sort on universal harmony would emerge from the act of surrender.
@Pomiferous They usually feel that way because, generally speaking, the enemy usually lost any given tactical engagment. Or in the case of the subject at hand, they lost strategic ones,too. We just never pushed our advantages & we fought on their terms, especially during the Johnson Administation.
@415Underdog No. it's nothing like saying 'we were leading at halftime'.That's not what that individual is saying at all. That bumper sticker is one man's personal,individualized experience. And no US veteran leaving at or before 1973(when OUR direct involvement ended) would be wrong in displaying it. Our forces were never 'defeated'. It was ARVN units that were overrun, not US Army units, etc.
@415Underdog You watch too many movies,bro. By the way, while the United States supplied the weapons & trained the military, when the chips were down, we(the congress) removed ALL support from RVN. Our own US congress signed the south's death warrant when the US Military was not allowed to abide by our agreement of assistance in the face of NVA agression. When they were ultimatly defeated, the only US forces in the area were US Navy covering the evac.
@415Underdog In a totalitarian society,perhaps. Yes, history is indeed 'written by winners'. Getting back to your sports analogy, not only were 'we' winning at halftime, but also going into the final quarter. What happend was more of a 'forfiet' of the final play. We were a 'no-show'. The money for the team bus & hotel rooms was withdrawn.
Blame bad coaching(from LBJ on down, including every 'whiz kid' & the hand picked Westmorland)in the 1st two quarters & lack of home team advantage.
It's telling about the state of California that Bruce Herschensohn lost to Barbara Boxer in the 1992 United States Senate race. Brilliant verses Dumb and Dumb won.
The reason why America left Vietnam was due to a lack of popular support, thereby putting pressure on the congress. And as South Vietnam was heavily dependent on foreign aid (exclusively from the USA), they were doomed to fail.
If you would like to blame anyone for the defeat, blame the citizens of the United States of America for standing up for what they felt was right.
And let's be realistic here. All your 'statistics' are nothing more than wild and biased predictions.
My impression from the mid-1970s is that Nixon became cynical and adopted the left’s own Alensky tactics in trying to fight its corrosive power. He then ironically got caught for doing the kind of things that had been going on already in the world of Government and of corporate big business anyway. I thought he was a perfect scapegoat at that time for the kind of corruption that we are living with today. Otherwise, in foreign policy he is still a relatively accomplished President.
I guess this Video to many would be revisionist history. I was against the War in Vietnam because apparently we were not fighting it, like we had wars in the past to actually win. In the mid-1960s and early 70s the majority of protestors had quite fashionably Marxist leanings, and sympathies for world communism implanted by university professors in the social studies, English, and journalism departments that I did not agree with. That is why I did not support any of the demonstrations.
I believe Mr Herschensohn's take on this history. My Dad served in Vietnam, he told me when I was a kid in the 70's and he has mentioned several times since that the Democrat Congress gave South Vietnam to the communists. However, Nixon deserves much of the blame due to his actions which led him to resign. Nixon's lying created the Democrat wave. Sure blame the Democrat Congress but also blame Nixon for creating the environment that swept them in.
I feel so sorry that I believed so negatively about my own country when I was a child. Now that I'm an adult I see our strengths--we have to, and we have to use them!
Please send this to all the members of your family who are too young to remember this time or didn't understand what was happening. I can't believe that only 1,386 people have seen this educational video. So good to see Bruce H. again!!! Loved him on the radio in the 80's, etc. Thanks so much for this opportunity to review and learn!!!
Although I already knew most of these facts through listening to DP, this is still one of the most succinct and clearest explanation I've seen on how Vietnam War was lost. Dennis, thank you for another clarifying course.
My husband, who was an advisor in Vietnam, has always told me that we Americans, here at home, caused the loss of the war. This film needs to be seen and understood. It's very easy to think we, the people, are smart enough to know what's going on, but most often we allow ourselves to be led (or misled) by those in power, believing what they want us to believe. Thank you, Dennis, for helping us to see what really happened.
My mom and dad (not together yet), were both of the boat people that made it. I'm very grateful to live in America today and will try to pass down the great values my parents and country instilled in me.
@flyoverjoe Thank you for the kind sentiments even though we are complete strangers to each other. I'd just like to say, there are a lot of Americans who insult America. Even in elementary school history class, the textbooks paint America as imperialistic or in similarly to the French and their rule over Vietnam. This is completely false. Vietnamese people DID NOT wanted to live under communism so much so that they threw their babies to the US soldiers during the Fall of Saigon in 1975.
@lwst82 Thank God there are still many of us who realize how special America is. It's easy to have disdain for America if you compare it to Utopia, but we live in a flawed world. America is the best thing going so far.
I can never get used to the odd feeling I get when another vail placed over the truth by the political left is lifted off of something I've never clearly seen. I'm usually in a daze for a few days, particularly in larger issues.
Well, at least I know what I'll be doing the next few days.
Regrettably, the Vietnam-era peaceniks have never truly understood the consequences of USA's departure from South-East Asia in 1973. The Vietnamese communists masterfully exploited the "peace activists'" delusional world view. Today, many of those peaceniks still congratulate themselves for "stopping the war," but they're reluctant to confront the postwar consequences: "reeducation" camps in Vietnam, "seminar" camps in Laos, the Khmer Rouge genocide in Cambodia, etc.
I agree with @peterchandanatural ---stay out of other countries business...
Lualhati143 1 day ago
bottom line is stay out of other countries business.... today vietnam is part of the wto world trade organization.... the booggy man communist is gone and the new boogey man terrorist will soon be gone who is the... The ETs.
petechandanatural 3 days ago
@petechandanatural How about Korea? You think it we should've stayed out of their business too? No difference between the North and South that you can notice?
tlewis84able 3 days ago
@mr82769
You really are despicable when you say the humanitarian costs were a zero sum game. More people died in the year after the fall of saigon than the previous 10 years combined. The fall of Saigon also led to the genocide in Cambodia which killed 1/3 of that population. People like you make me sick.
apk769 1 week ago
@mr82769
Is typical of people who have a simplistic view of Pinochet etc. Allende in Chile was a KGB asset. Pinochet willingly stepped down in a plebsicite in 1988 losing 55-45. The 45 percent who voted to have Pinochet stay in power was higher than the percentage that voted for Allende in 1970. Pinochet saved Chile from becoming another Cuba. Are you really comparing Pinochet's rule to Stalin and other Communists? You are insane.
apk769 1 week ago
Great vid. I still feel guilt over my opposition to the war in my youth.
lecagot2 2 weeks ago
This video accurately reflects what many of us who served in the military during Viet Nam know to be true regarding the outcome of the war. For purely partisan political reasons, the Democrat Party turned victory into defeat. We never lost a major engagement; militarily, we defeated the North Vietnamese. I have nothing but contempt for those politicians responsible for betraying those who fought and died there.
JimmyMack, Chicago
Veteran, 82nd Airborne Division
33 year member, Chicago Fire Dept
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@jmcnally17 I salute you Sir! But I feel bad to your politician who gave permission to used Agent Orange in Cambodia & Saigon, My heart aches to all the soldiers (US, Vietnamese, NATO members) who died in Vietnam War... And I pray for all the victims of genocide...
Lualhati143 1 day ago
Prager was born in 1948. He would have been the perfect age to sign up for the Vietnam War. But he didn't.
mukome 1 month ago
The problem is Dennis Prager.
Left to their own devices the democrats show what monsters they are, but people like Dennis Prager and Hugh Hewitt are always lying to defend them.
"There are many beautiful people on the left" is one lie he has repeated hundreds of times and anybody who listens to him can name plenty more.
Prager can hardly form a sentence w/o interrupting himself to protect democrats from earning their own reputation.
MrShoeguy 1 month ago
Nixon turned a democratic, marxist Chile into a pro-american dictatorship, too.
manfred500 2 months ago
Many of us that served in Vietnam are still waiting on America to ask us, then listen to our answers.
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You mean to tell me South Vietnam surrendered because they didn't have enough weapons? Really?
topperheartramada 3 months ago
I am really really angry right now. The manipulation and ignorance in this video by some idiotic old man who sat thousands of miles away from that war. Even if South Vietnam had held its ground all the way until today that would still have caused a lot of dead Vietnamese. Both north and south. Look at South America. Or Korea.
mr82769 3 months ago
@mr82769 What are you taling about? I have studied the Vietnam war for years. What the man said was exactly right. Curtis Lemay had been pushing for heavey bombing strikes against Hanoi since the begining of the war. Operation Linebacker and Linebacker II literally destroyed North Vietnams power to wage war. if there was one more massive bombing campaign the war would have probably ended with a US victory. The US military never lost a battle in Vietnam.
moonshot926 3 months ago
@moonshot926 What are YOU talking about?!? You fail to see my point. From a humanitarian standpoint it probably doesnt matter at all. The dictators in South Korea and South America and their involvement with USA proves that. And the USA has bombed the hell out of Afghanistan - would you say that you have won that war?
mr82769 3 months ago
@mr82769 Yes, if only all of Korea was like the utopia that is North Korea. Yes, more Vietnamese would have died and in no way is that a good thing. But look at the numbers man, at the very least 250,000 innocents were killed by the new brutal Communist regime. And this is after we had already essentially won the war. I am angry that my country could be cowed in to being so cowardly as to condemn those people to death. I am sorry, but your comment is tremendously foolish.
Sp00ny1985 2 months ago
@Sp00ny1985 How many civilians have died in Iraq or Afghanistan? And again, the US supported dictators in South America did quite the job too. Its not only the communists who have been brutal.
mr82769 2 months ago
Thanks mxd6 for a truthful posting. You are absolutely correct. Too bad the truth is not more generally known by our fellow citizens,
waltwilson1 3 months ago
The assassination of JFK lead to our involvement in Vietnam. Kennedy said NO!!
LBJ had interest in that war and so did his wife - Brown and Root!!!
Read and educate yourselves!! All government is bad news!
I don't trust any of them....not one!
mxd6 3 months ago
Hey no one won the vietnam war, it was a tie and besides we won more they have McDonalds now :)
0tsXGrimReaper0 4 months ago
*cough* bush *cough*
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Thank you, Bruce and Dennis. The truth be told...
Ed, Marine veteran, RVN 1966
deucenahaff 4 months ago 3
I proudly served in Vietnam, and it made me physically ill when the democratic congress withdrew support to South Vietnam after we had pulled out and promised our support. The democrats continue, to this day, to destroy what's left of our country.
razorbak16 5 months ago 3
@razorbak16 thank you so much for serving sir, YOU WON THAT WAR! It was the Demon-crats that lost it.
fxnooodle 4 months ago 4
@razorbak16 yes they do and we let them. It's time for America to rise up
heavenlybeast1 4 months ago
Hey, Mr. Herschensohn, I voted for you way back when. You said something that I'll always appreciate with respect to immigration: people are a blessing, not a curse..., or something like that. It was like light shining into darkness. Thanks.
deQuercy321 6 months ago 3
Dennis needs to interview Ron Paul.
KenMacMillan 7 months ago
hey, and dennis kucinich?
he's a democrat too, and one of the best candidates i've seen
max9832 7 months ago
My Dad said, if American didn't leave, Ngo Dinh Diem would not resign and left SV to the communists, he was disappointed that America promised it will help S.V. until the end.
quangluu96 7 months ago
Dennis Prager did not serve during the Vietnam War. He received many deferments to avoid the draft.
This Jewish huckster has no problem sending goyim Christian soldiers to fight and die for Israel.
mkadams99 7 months ago
@mkadams99 What does that have to do with Dennis serving in Nam? Let the truth be know that us American
lost that war because of American politics and we let those people down. Is there any honor in being a soldier to you? It is the American way to help people that are being slaughtered. Who are you to criticize those that had to serve Our Country in another way?
royclaxton 7 months ago 2
@mkadams99 Take it with God Almighty asshole- He who has declared, speaking of Israel- "And I will bless those who bless you And the one who curses you I will curse "..better a goyim boy lay down his life for Israel and favor God then die in Afghanistan defending Muslims or America who calls herself "Christian" yet has murdered 50 million children in abortions and is now letting homosexuals marry and serve openly in the military.
HighMindedLunacy 6 months ago
@HighMindedLunacy
So according to a book written by Jews (Old Testament/Torah) the Jews are "god's" chosen people and those that bless them will be blessed.
I guess being an evangelical Christian means being a slave to the Jews. I'd rather be free.
mkadams99 6 months ago
@mkadams99 I did not serve during the Vietnam war either.Did you?
Pomiferous 5 months ago
...and now we are expected to buy products from Viet Nam & Cambodia.... Buy American or do without is the answer
skipromjb 7 months ago
Thank you Dennis and team, very well done. Just watched with my 16 & 19 yr old, so good to open further discussion and research. This summer he was assigned essays by Howard Zinn, yikes! so I had to counter with real, clear thinking historians .. you rock. Gratefully, ochomom09
MollineBoddy 7 months ago
@TheCheesydutchman
Waow, what an elaborated thinking...
During WWII, more than 40 million people died in Europe... and it was a Victory for America and its allies.
Understand, now ?
leroidavid2000 8 months ago
America has spent the last century fighting one form of "evil" after another. Only to discover even greater evils uncovered by the defeat of the preceding one. Along the way, we have invaded more countries, overthrown more governments, and killed more people than the Nazi's and communists combined. This is not about "winning." It's about morals.
rctube1958 8 months ago
@rctube1958 no, I believe Stalin killed some 60 million, of his own people, so we come in a low 2nd
busmale 8 months ago
@rctube1958 that is empirically incorrect, you throw around random made up statements based on presumptions on numbers wihtout any analysis whatsoever, people like you are pathethic.
killerbee2k 8 months ago
@killerbee2k How many millions have we killed either in fighting, arming and instigating the combatants in both world wars, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, Nicaragua, Honduras, Iraq, Libya, Haiti, Afghanistan, Columbia, Iran, Grenada, .... The list is damn near endless. Face it. We're a war machine. America is a great country, but our leaders have been and are bloodthirsty.
rctube1958 8 months ago
@rctube1958
America didn't invade countries, America liberated them.
And America killed ennemy combattants, as it happens during wars.
On the contrary, the nazis killed voluntarily million of civilians; and the Soviet communists did the same; and the Chinese communists did the same; and the Japanese in WWII did the same; and the Muslims did the same; and the Africans in central Africa did the same.
See the difference ?
leroidavid2000 8 months ago 3
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@rctube1958
Now, let's examine some figures.
During the 20th century, the nazis are responsible of the deaths of more than 40 million people; the Soviet communists, of more than 100 million; the Chinese communists, of more than 120 million; the Japanese, during WWII, of more than 25 million; the Muslims, of more than 25 million; the Africans, during the wars and genocides in Central Africa, of more than 20 million.
Those are the criminals !
leroidavid2000 8 months ago
It was wrong for the US to be involved in Vietnam from the beginning. Through brute force America can dominate any country, but should it? Are we to be used by whomever controls D.C. to fulfill their agenda? Is this how we should spend our lives and treasure? And as a American with equal rights to those elected, shouldn't I and others be able to say "No! This is not how I want my money and life to be spent!" and not be coerced into participating. One scam war after another...
rctube1958 8 months ago
@rctube1958 Yeah its called protesting....
MRpopTARTSareYUMMY 7 months ago
Democrats always brought nothing but destruction under the flag of peace, righteousness and false pity. Nothing worse in the world than the uber politically correct left driving the country.
kostaad 8 months ago 15
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@kostaad RON PAUL 2012
santran 5 months ago
@kostaad yeah because bush was such a peaceful guy... you're a genuine moron!
4545ds 4 months ago 2
I simply cannot understand where the Democrats are coming from. You would think they don't care anything about this country at all! I just don't get it. Those that fought in Viet Nam and those who were close to it are the ones to listen to. I lost a LOT of friends there and it's heartbreaking! What those brave soldiers went through, no one can understand that wasn't there. They are the ones who know the truth so please listen to them. Those brave soldiers were in HELL. They deserve our praise!
janeandboo 8 months ago 4
@TheCheesydutchman
Your point?
snakewrithing 8 months ago 2
I was there - two tours. When the S. Vietnamese finally elected a popular President who was anti-communist, and a great leader, Nguyen Van Thieu, we abandoned him, cut off military supplies. The reds did not cut off supplies to the north, and the result was inevitable. Multiple folks in the US Congress were guilty of treason and should have been shot for selling out people who died because they trusted us and fought the communists.
LibertyRestore 8 months ago 4
It wasn't the withdrawal of military supplies that lost the war. It was our desire to get our American soldiers OUT of Viet Nam! We were sending our young men into constant slaughter. The SV could not effectively fight the NV without our soldiers. We had NO business ever putting our troops on the ground in 1965. Eisenhower would not commit troops unless France also committed. They would not. Kennedy then agreed to send in our troops. Johnson sent them in beginning in 1965.
bluebirdremus 8 months ago
I was there with naval gunfire support at the cease fire - Jan 27, 1973 supporting SV Marines on the beach (surrounded by NVA). At the cease fire - we stopped shooting and within days (radio contact was maintained) those Marines were wiped out under a mass attack - the NVA using civilians as human shields. The only people who stopped shooting were the US Forces. The SV government was fragile and then the Democrats pulled the plug on a small materiale support some months later - Poof - the end.
me3tv 8 months ago
i thought the vietkong won the war and america lost, Thats just what i heard but it might be wrong.
Eddtastic100 9 months ago
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Hey hey LBJ how many kids did you kill today?
john91722 9 months ago
Yay! Thanks Democrats for being partisan lunatics. The blood of those dead Vietnamese is on your party's hands.
tabrettologist 9 months ago 25
@tabrettologist not to mention the millions of Cambodian.
fxnooodle 4 months ago
@tabrettologist Demopublicans or Republicrats, it's all the same; 95% of them are bought and paid for. The rest are there to give us the illusion that this country can be saved! JFK wanted to start pulling people out of Vietnam in the early '60's but the Military Industrial Complex is too powerful and too much profit is in war for the
Money Changers! Read Gen. Smedley Butler's War is a Racket, and listen to DDE's parting address warning us of such!!
MonkeySpuzz 3 weeks ago
Nixon was in charge of managing the war for four years until the peace accords were signed in Jan 73. It was a flawed agreement, and Nixon knew it. His and Kissinger's priorities were China and detente with the Soviets. In Nixon's recorded words, South Vietnam and Taiwan were foreign policy "irritants."
Nixon miscalculated with the Paris Peace Accords. Most historians, civilian and military, conclude that South Vietnam needed political stability in Saigon and Thieu wasn't it.
AlexisDetroit 9 months ago
blame it on nixon, kissinger, mcnamara, drugs, manson, hippies, protesters, watergate, etc....anyone but military commanders.
i.e. westmoreland.
a fight is a fight, no matter who is instigating
415Underdog 9 months ago
ho chi minh asked usa for help after WWII to keep the french away, but was ignored by america.
bad move.
vietnam than defeated the french for good in 1954.
while america was in south korea helping them draw a line and earn a stalemate.
usa thought they could do the same in nam.
wrong!
all ho chi minh wanted was an independent, united, self determined vietnam
the moral of the story is-
usa had a chance and blew it and it still haunts them to this day.
415Underdog 9 months ago
It is the hippies & dems fault that we withdrew when we did, BUT it is important that America wins the wars we enter. Losing wars only makes America appear weaker in the world's eyes-an image we cannot afford to have. If our enemies perceive us as incompetent and catering to the "anti-war" sentiment of those dems and hippies, they'll think they have an advantage over us.
heavenlybeast1 9 months ago
This profound elaboration clearly illustrates how America won the war by 1973. And the fact that communist Vietnam is moving towards a more capitalist society proves that America not only won the war militarily, but with ideology, as well.
heavenlybeast1 9 months ago
@heavenlybeast1 No thats not important whether America won or not. South Vietnam lost and have suffered ever since and the democrats and hippies of America are to blame for it. (the left)
dealerovski82 9 months ago
Very informative. Imagine if Fox News and conservative talk radio had been around then. Maybe all this misinformation would never have made it's way to 'accepted fact' status.
tlgforce 9 months ago
Visits to Hanoi by Kerry anti-war allies Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and others, he said, "gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."
usmc7242 9 months ago
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal after his retirement, Col. Tin explicitly credited leaders of the U.S. anti-war movement, saying they were "essential to our strategy." "Every day our leadership would listen to world news over the radio at 9AM to follow the growth of the antiwar movement," Col. Tin told the Journal.
usmc7242 9 months ago
The failed democrat policies of Vietnam led to the disaster of Jimmy Carter and his appeasement toward the Ayatollah Khomenie and led to what we now call ISLAMIC TERRORISM
usmc7242 9 months ago
We're still scarred by Viet nam.... not the way the left thinks...
xxbingo 9 months ago
hey, what's a couple of million civilians raped, tortured & slaughtered and half of Southeast Asia sold out into slavery when we could get another "peace in our time?"
Now instead of having blood on your hands, you can have the news media and Hollywood simply re-write history! Thank you for shining the light on the fraudulent fable of the Vietnam War
MemberofTribe 9 months ago 2
It was also found that, some years back when the artives of the old USSR were opened and allowed to be looked at, the soviets had written they were ready to conceed...that they had lost. This was at the same time that those that were so against the war had convienced Americans to pull out. Democrats lost the war for us and today they are still the loudest ones against war and reminding us of the tragedy of Vietnam.
katfrmwi 9 months ago
We have political spin machines and people with short memories...see any simularities today?
katfrmwi 9 months ago
Actually the economic strain Vietnam put on the USSR contributed heavily to the fall of the Russian empire. We are here--they aren't--sounds like we could have handled the Paris treaty better. But a world without the USSR is a better world than one with a USSR. Considerable research has reveled that there actually is a gene that causes the person who has it to be brave--WWI and the machine gun resulted it a population that houses a considerable proportion of people who aren't very brave.
leon0301 9 months ago
democrats - blood on their hands
itubeyoublah 10 months ago
Now I understand fully what Reagan was saying about freedom and how it must be fought by every generation after another. Because the enemy is not only foreign but more commonly its domestic in the democratic party.
dealerovski82 10 months ago
@dealerovski82 Liberty is not all that common during the course of human history.
Pomiferous 10 months ago
Many of our current leaders, of that HORRABLE ERA, should have been tried for sedition and treason. It would have prevented, the continuing and ongoing damage, being done, by their warped minds.
Mark1Gilb 10 months ago
Several leaders of the current Damnocratic Party, were responsible for the
KILLING FIELDS, BOAT PEOPLE, REEDUCATION CAMPS AND BURNING OF ASIAN CITIES.
MURDER OF 20 MILLION PEOPLE AFTER WE PULLED OUT OF " SOUTHEAST ASIA"
Them sedition and treasonist leaders are HURTING the USA TODAY.!! pREcIDENT Hilary, and her hUSAND Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore, Hanoi Jane Fonda, Dick Durbin, James William Fulbright, Ted Kennedy, Senator Mike Mansfield.
Mark1Gilb 10 months ago
Al Gore, Hanoi Jane Fonda, Dick Durbin, James William Fulbright, Ted Kennedy, Senator Mike Mansfield. Al Gore, REPORTING LIES, like CNN's Michael Ware, Water Cronkite, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Colleges UN-uNIVERSITY uNPROFESSORS, MANY of these who AIDED AN ASSISTED OUR ENEMIES.
Mark1Gilb 10 months ago
:O shocking. What did the North Vietnamese generals said about what the US funds what have done? Does ne1 have some quotes from their diaries about the funds Nixon tried to ensure?
christopherzau 10 months ago
Putting it into focus. For those that served SALUTE down South in the Republic That OInce Was Vietnam -- yesterday, tomorrow, and forever. Well done. For thsoe that ran off to Canada -- stay there.
ernstbecker1 10 months ago
It seems all of us in the U.S. are left to hear the truth that accurs in our lifetime years later. When information comes out like this interview, Americans should stop whatever they are doing and use our new media technology to alert our fellow Americans. Do all you can to help your country!! God Bless America!!
369Patriot 10 months ago
America lost militarily, but it succeeded in ensuring that Vietnam would never serve as a positive example to other countries seeking independence. The annihilated country of Vietnam certainly wasn't going to be a model.
Do you old cannibals squirm with joy when you think about the hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese children who were born with birth defects due to America's chemical bombardments?
jazzsexsoup 10 months ago
@jazzsexsoup how did we lose militarily?
The NVA lost over 950 thousand more soldiers than we did
SKallday100 10 months ago
@SKallday100
The Soviets lost more troops than the Germans during World War 2, but no one would argue that the Germans won the war.
The Vietnamese fought the French, the Japanese, the French again, and then the Americans. It's absurd to think that victory was just on the horizon. America was going to leave eventually.
jazzsexsoup 10 months ago
@jazzsexsoup, no, instead the victorious North Vietnam has become a model.
Do you old lefties celebrate when you think of all the Vietnamese people who were executed or went into labor camps?
You do.
Btw, if you read Graham Greene's "The Quiet American," he is very critical and angry with you lefties, even long before Vietnam War came to any conclusion. And you just took this book, never read it, screwed it up entirely and ran with it.
(cont.)
Kurtlane 10 months ago
Anything to promote your finger-pointing and self-righteousness.
Kurtlane 10 months ago
@Kurtlane
The Vietnam of 1975 was not going to be a model. The country lost 3 million people, much of its land was poisoned, and the infrastructure was destroyed. America dropped around 7 million tons of bombs on Vietnam - 2 million tons were dropped in WW2.
People hardly ever talk about the Geneva accords. A unification election was planned for 1956, but the democracy-loving government of South Vietnam backed out because they knew that Ho Chi Minh would win. That's when the insurgency began.
jazzsexsoup 10 months ago
@jazzsexsoup, they surely indoctrinated you well.
Sorry, it's beyond my power to help you.
Kurtlane 10 months ago
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jazzsexsoup 10 months ago
The war was fought for tin and rubber and to protect the French puppet government in the south.
WhimsicalQuandary 10 months ago
Mmm.... nothin' like a good ol' fashioned Dolchstoßlegende to get that revisionist crank dollar.
arglbargl 10 months ago
All very true!
This is what I keep telling everyone: Beware of Greeks bearing gifts, beware of Arabs proposing peace, beware of Americans making promises.
One can see a very similar thing happening in Afghanistan today. Americans come to a terrorist-controlled area of the country, through tremendous sacrifice establish a base, create order, then leave. And Taliban comes back, reestablishes their rule and kills everyone who worked with Americans.
(cont.)
Kurtlane 10 months ago
This repeats itself again and again. Now Americans are complaining that no local Afghans want to work with them any more. Well, it's clear why, isn't it?
Taliban knows it too, so it retreats and comes back, again and again.
I see the whole war in Iraq as one more example of the same.
And now, when budget deficit is the flavor of the year, there are voices that want to cut troops and spending. There we go, Vietnam part 2.
(cont,)
Kurtlane 10 months ago
Even back in WWI, Jabotinsky complained about Americans in his unit, "They fight just as well as anyone, but when there is no military action, they say, 'Either send us to fight or send us home.'"
(cont.)
Kurtlane 10 months ago
So as American, I have to confess: Americans have little staying power, little backbone. Not American soldiers - they are terrific. But American establishment, the same that made "innocent Guantanamo prisoners" flavor of the year in 2008 just to get their Obama elected, and American people who elected him.
Kurtlane 10 months ago
@Kurtlane People line the streets cheering for our soldiers in Afghanistan
Just because you hear it on the news doesn't mean its true
We set up polls for them, how would you feel if someone fought to the death for your right to vote? Thats how they feel
SKallday100 10 months ago
@SKallday100, I wonder, do people line the streets of Afghanistan to cheer our soldiers today?
Never mind the original reception.
It is the happy illusion of American people that there is nothing worse than a brutal totalitarian dictatorship. America is all built on this dichotomy: good democracy vs. bad dictatorship. But in reality, there is something worse than any dictatorship: civil war.
Afghanis know civil war very well.
I agree with you. But it doesn't negate what I said.
Kurtlane 10 months ago
@Kurtlane As long as the west loses influence I don't think the left is all that concerned with the ensueing body counts.Ideology is funny that way.Sacrafices are demanded when ever ideas clash for control.
Pomiferous 10 months ago
It was never mentioned that the people of South Vietnam were under a leader that was corrupt and terribly ruthless. America supported him and the people of SV speaking for a majority didn't support him. They wouldn't fight for him. After America left stability in the government fell apart into chaos and disorder. Even with the equipment the people still wouldn't fight. America didn't allow elections because of fear that the Communist would get the power.
11111Delta 10 months ago
@11111Delta, stop lying. South Vietnamese did fight to keep their country. Otherwise South Vietnam would've collapsed right after American troops left.
And compared to North Vietnam's government, the one in the South was very mild.
All you need to do is see the crowds of mothers throwing their babies to evacuating Americans as the North's army was advancing on Saigon. If that's not enough, come here to Little Saigon (Garden Grove, CA) and talk to any Vietnamese.
Kurtlane 10 months ago
Losing wars has become the PC stance it seems.You can just pretend conflicts evaporate in to peacefull movements from a progressive panorama.The body counts are irrelavent once the graves are covered up. Left leaners don't seem all that concerned with loss of lives as long as the west loses traction in the process.
Pomiferous 10 months ago
One of the most haunting memories I still carry within me was how indifferent my friends and loved ones were to what really happened in Vietnam..I was proud to do my part as a marine who did two tours from 6/66-1/68..No complaints..no regrets..but even today no one wants to hear the truth from the young grunts who were the primary experts of exactly what went wrong..The deepest injury of all was the apathy I encountered upon returning home..hell with it..it's done
evetsgolb 10 months ago
@evetsgolb thank you for your service!!!!!! Sadly the minority opinion is the loudest, most Americans are greatful for all of you "young grunts".
CoachDennis 10 months ago
@evetsgolb YOU KNOW WHAT DENNIS..I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT AT ALL...PEOPLE WERE INDIFFERENT TO THE WAR..AND OUR OWN PEER GROUP WAS SO BRAIN WASHED BY THE MEDIA AND DIRTY POLITICIANS..THAT WE LEARNED THE HARD TRUTH WAS THAT WE WERE THE ONES WHO LOST THAT WAR...AND IF YOU ONLY KNEW..WHAT PRICE WE PAID TO A V.A. SYSTEM THAT WAS THE GREATEST ENEMY WE WOULD EVER ENCOUNTER IN OUR LIVES..YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE WHAT REALLY WENT DOWN,,..AND IT'S TO LATE NOW TO TELL IT ..THANKS ANYWAY
evetsgolb 10 months ago
@evetsgolb Found your CAPS LOCK key, ay?
deermusic 10 months ago
Great video Dennis!
eeWeddingPhotography 10 months ago
Great video Mr. Prager and Mr. Herschensohn!! These Prager University videos are wonderful, I only wish there were hundreds more of them :)
WinstonTheWhippet 10 months ago 3
Seen on a bumper sticker "When I left Vietnam, we were winning"
9Apilot 10 months ago
@9Apilot Perhaps that was about the same time winning became a negative expression in the ranks of the elite, US based liberal educators.Maybe they decided conflicts could reasoned away with wishfull thinking and intellectual word play.Pretending some sort on universal harmony would emerge from the act of surrender.
Pomiferous 10 months ago
@Pomiferous They usually feel that way because, generally speaking, the enemy usually lost any given tactical engagment. Or in the case of the subject at hand, they lost strategic ones,too. We just never pushed our advantages & we fought on their terms, especially during the Johnson Administation.
9Apilot 10 months ago
@9Apilot
thats like saying...we were leading at halftime
415Underdog 9 months ago
@415Underdog No. it's nothing like saying 'we were leading at halftime'.That's not what that individual is saying at all. That bumper sticker is one man's personal,individualized experience. And no US veteran leaving at or before 1973(when OUR direct involvement ended) would be wrong in displaying it. Our forces were never 'defeated'. It was ARVN units that were overrun, not US Army units, etc.
9Apilot 9 months ago
@9Apilot
and who trained to arvn, supplied them with weapons etc and eventually abandoned them?
(in the middle of a winnable fight) according to usa military.
who started the war with "gulf of tonkin" agression that never existed?
winning means taking the north, which was not the strategy.
the idea was like korea, draw a line in the middle
lets just blame it on the drugs in nam, damn that heroin was good, wasn't it?
even stuffed some in bady bags and sent them back stateside.
415Underdog 9 months ago
@415Underdog You watch too many movies,bro. By the way, while the United States supplied the weapons & trained the military, when the chips were down, we(the congress) removed ALL support from RVN. Our own US congress signed the south's death warrant when the US Military was not allowed to abide by our agreement of assistance in the face of NVA agression. When they were ultimatly defeated, the only US forces in the area were US Navy covering the evac.
9Apilot 9 months ago
@9Apilot
only the winners write the history, so shhhhhh
415Underdog 9 months ago
@415Underdog In a totalitarian society,perhaps. Yes, history is indeed 'written by winners'. Getting back to your sports analogy, not only were 'we' winning at halftime, but also going into the final quarter. What happend was more of a 'forfiet' of the final play. We were a 'no-show'. The money for the team bus & hotel rooms was withdrawn.
Blame bad coaching(from LBJ on down, including every 'whiz kid' & the hand picked Westmorland)in the 1st two quarters & lack of home team advantage.
9Apilot 9 months ago
It's telling about the state of California that Bruce Herschensohn lost to Barbara Boxer in the 1992 United States Senate race. Brilliant verses Dumb and Dumb won.
bke274 10 months ago 2
The reason why America left Vietnam was due to a lack of popular support, thereby putting pressure on the congress. And as South Vietnam was heavily dependent on foreign aid (exclusively from the USA), they were doomed to fail.
If you would like to blame anyone for the defeat, blame the citizens of the United States of America for standing up for what they felt was right.
And let's be realistic here. All your 'statistics' are nothing more than wild and biased predictions.
unifieddynasty 10 months ago
@unifieddynasty
You are absolutely right and therefore the blood of the aftermath is on the heads of those who protested
not knowing or believing what was at stake. Just suffice it to say we were clueless pawns played perfectly
into a disastrous ending but no matter who cares about a few MILLION dead in the killing fields by Pol Pot
it's not in my back yard so no worries and we are just as responsible today as we always were.
Wonder what the middle east's future looks like. FOOLS ALL.
tallbergs 10 months ago
My impression from the mid-1970s is that Nixon became cynical and adopted the left’s own Alensky tactics in trying to fight its corrosive power. He then ironically got caught for doing the kind of things that had been going on already in the world of Government and of corporate big business anyway. I thought he was a perfect scapegoat at that time for the kind of corruption that we are living with today. Otherwise, in foreign policy he is still a relatively accomplished President.
howardz43 10 months ago
I guess this Video to many would be revisionist history. I was against the War in Vietnam because apparently we were not fighting it, like we had wars in the past to actually win. In the mid-1960s and early 70s the majority of protestors had quite fashionably Marxist leanings, and sympathies for world communism implanted by university professors in the social studies, English, and journalism departments that I did not agree with. That is why I did not support any of the demonstrations.
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howardz43 10 months ago
I believe Mr Herschensohn's take on this history. My Dad served in Vietnam, he told me when I was a kid in the 70's and he has mentioned several times since that the Democrat Congress gave South Vietnam to the communists. However, Nixon deserves much of the blame due to his actions which led him to resign. Nixon's lying created the Democrat wave. Sure blame the Democrat Congress but also blame Nixon for creating the environment that swept them in.
latestrant 10 months ago
I feel so sorry that I believed so negatively about my own country when I was a child. Now that I'm an adult I see our strengths--we have to, and we have to use them!
Lisarata 10 months ago
This should make all of us wonder what our kids will be told about the war in Iraq when we're gone.
sirhcskoorb 10 months ago
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@sirhcskoorb "This should make all of us wonder what our kids will be told about the war in Iraq when we're gone."
Ignorance is bliss.
unifieddynasty 10 months ago
I'm one of majority who had no idea what really happened in Viet Nam. Thank you, Dennis, one more time for making things so clear.
CelebrateOurCountry 10 months ago 2
Please send this to all the members of your family who are too young to remember this time or didn't understand what was happening. I can't believe that only 1,386 people have seen this educational video. So good to see Bruce H. again!!! Loved him on the radio in the 80's, etc. Thanks so much for this opportunity to review and learn!!!
SOOKIEBOX 10 months ago
Although I already knew most of these facts through listening to DP, this is still one of the most succinct and clearest explanation I've seen on how Vietnam War was lost. Dennis, thank you for another clarifying course.
ehong123 10 months ago
My husband, who was an advisor in Vietnam, has always told me that we Americans, here at home, caused the loss of the war. This film needs to be seen and understood. It's very easy to think we, the people, are smart enough to know what's going on, but most often we allow ourselves to be led (or misled) by those in power, believing what they want us to believe. Thank you, Dennis, for helping us to see what really happened.
galeleach 10 months ago
My mom and dad (not together yet), were both of the boat people that made it. I'm very grateful to live in America today and will try to pass down the great values my parents and country instilled in me.
lwst82 10 months ago 49
@lwst82 My ship rescued about 30 refugees in 1981. I met a woman whose mother might have been on that small ship we pulled over to save them
usmc7242 9 months ago
@lwst82 America is better off for having your family here now.
flyoverjoe 7 months ago
@flyoverjoe Thank you for the kind sentiments even though we are complete strangers to each other. I'd just like to say, there are a lot of Americans who insult America. Even in elementary school history class, the textbooks paint America as imperialistic or in similarly to the French and their rule over Vietnam. This is completely false. Vietnamese people DID NOT wanted to live under communism so much so that they threw their babies to the US soldiers during the Fall of Saigon in 1975.
lwst82 7 months ago
@lwst82 Thank God there are still many of us who realize how special America is. It's easy to have disdain for America if you compare it to Utopia, but we live in a flawed world. America is the best thing going so far.
flyoverjoe 7 months ago 2
I can never get used to the odd feeling I get when another vail placed over the truth by the political left is lifted off of something I've never clearly seen. I'm usually in a daze for a few days, particularly in larger issues.
Well, at least I know what I'll be doing the next few days.
TheJediCharles 10 months ago 2
Good job!
smashcorefilms 10 months ago
Great!
Amiel912 10 months ago
Regrettably, the Vietnam-era peaceniks have never truly understood the consequences of USA's departure from South-East Asia in 1973. The Vietnamese communists masterfully exploited the "peace activists'" delusional world view. Today, many of those peaceniks still congratulate themselves for "stopping the war," but they're reluctant to confront the postwar consequences: "reeducation" camps in Vietnam, "seminar" camps in Laos, the Khmer Rouge genocide in Cambodia, etc.
KonradAdenauerJr 10 months ago 2
A quarter of a million people died because of political games here in the U.S.
Remember, democrats are for the little guy.
deezynar 10 months ago 4
This was unbelievably well done. I am so glad to see Prager University going in this direction.
bw01a 10 months ago 29
Wow.
landscaper1975 10 months ago