It would seem to be only static electricity, like that generated by the moving rubber belt in a Van de Graaff generator. Not useful to power anything. But still, a clever demonstration.
It is mysterious to me how this generates charge when the anode and cathode are symetrical.
The whole set up is apparently symetrical. I guess inherent asymetry starts the process and then it build from there. Would be interesting to see what would happen if you put a control on the symetry. Definatly sparked my interest.
It's just an electrostatic machine, based on electrostatic induction. There's always small asymetry in potentials, which like you said will build up. It's a positive feedback device.
This is not a new form of energy, and no it cannot be used as a perpetual motion machine. It may generate huge voltages, but P=VI, and the current will be very, very small.
to wattrlz - it must be water, as it conducts electricity. Ever seen sand conduct electricity? Aww, too bad then.
How about you read some information about Lord Kelvin and his experiments before jumping to wild conclusions about "new energy" and "free energy".
The professor is commiting a very common basic freshman physics error in how he is operating the experiment. The water is supposed to come out in droplets, not a continuous stream. The stream allows conduction back through, partially shorting the charge buildup. The sparks would be bigger, brighter, and more frequent otherwise.
Although Wikipedia is usually correct, I do not believe it is correct in this case (although I am not sure). The reason the water seperates into droplets in this video is because the electric field is increasing, attracting the droplets to the can, thus pulling apart the water.
Actually, it has been proven to be generally at least as accurate as the average printed encyclopedia. I regard those who doubt the veracity of Wikipedia in the same light as those who refuse to stand in front of a microwave oven while it's on...painfully misinformed and amazingly stubborn.
YOu cut a magnetic feild every day walking around,breathing,shaking hands. Think about it turkey.Open those closed mind cells to reality as it is ,not as you wre told by them that mean to keep you down and in place and away from having free anything.
what if the aether providses much more magnetic energy and all than you could oculd ever create so what if that were true. what if you created your own magnetic energy when you utter poor un opened minded thoughts out.
YOu dwell on exterior nonsense,if you were drowning,he would look just fine ,now wouldnt he? Lose the ego facad of lookst hat will come and go,be more intense a being and look at what a person is about not thier looks . They will come and go.manners learned,a heart or the mind to try to do what is told impossible. rare indeed. Specialize on things that are special and keep mouth shut if nothign nice to say.
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First of all not all mass has a magnetic field, secondly nothing can just cut a magnetic field, and thirdly even if you COULD cut a magnetic field it would COST energy, not make it. Still nicely thought, but just wanted to point this out.
I suppose you think that that there is no such thing as free energy in the vaccuume and it would lead to the earth baking itself,no such thing as free energy Well your wrong. Make a dip9ole babe. and stop paying your electric bill.But have an oepn mind at least. Your gonna trust them that keep you down or someone who is trying at least? Try too,will ya please?
As a matter of fact I'm open to that free energy thought but that's totally different from cutting a magnetic field. I guess you never had any basic science in whatever school you went to. I do have an open mind, but there's also something like exagerating. I could say 1+1=3 and say I have an open mind. I just trust on what I learned, what I can see and what fits in my reality. If it doesn't fit in yours, just don't take it personal.
this is quite amazing, and i would LOVE for someone to please fill me in on this process. my email is JayC5413 (A) hotmail. com. Please if someone could email me with the explanation I would be greatful!
The frictional electrification of droplets was discovered by accident in 1840, when the driver of a steam locomotive (itself a new technology) working in a colliery near Newcastle in northeast England, put his hand near a jet of high-pressure steam escaping from the boiler, and discovered that when he touched the boiler with the other hand, he received an electrical shock and saw a spark. -Please flame away.
i can't figure out how one can becomes negatively charged, and the other positively charged - for me it must be random every time the capacitors discharge
tsk tsk. Flamebait. Well, for one, it IS amazing. Somethings are amazing before you understand them, and some even more so after you understand it. The bottomline it - you must and seek to understand. And HaveYouEverNoticed, I am sorry for deleting that comment. It was an accidental click, nothing more.
well the physics professor seems to think its the most amazing thing he's ever seen dumbass. I think i'll take his word before some irrelevant internet retard liek you. Thanks for commenting tho .. now sit down and shut up.
The point isn't efficieny. He's trying to get the students to think about how it works. Most people wouldn't immediately expect this to work. Understanding and considering this kind of stuff is really important for good design of electromechanical devices.
Actually, I think you get less because water is only one part in ten million particles ionized (or something like that- I forget the exact number). However, I agree with you. The point isn't efficiency but the concept behind the design.
The problem that isn't obvious is that more energy is used to bring the water above the conductors than is produced by allowing the water to travel between the conductors.
Just had to say this in case you were wondering about any chance this could be used to make a perpetual energy machine.
Spreading of the wayer, metal cylinder... Not very difficult to explain and I only read 1 small course regarding the basics of electricity on university level and of course covered some electricity in chemistry classes. But this isn't at all hard!
each bottomless 'paint' can adopts an opposite charge of the other. This charge draws (attracts) water molecules with the opposite charge. So, one nozzle is plus (Positive) and the other is minus (negative). Consequently each 'trash can' fills with opposite charge molecules and transfers that charge to the 'paint' can on the other side (see wires hardly visible cross connecting). The charge builds until it is so large it begins to bend the stream of droplets. Thats where you want the spark.
a dropping waterdrop #1 accumulates a charge. #1 drops through A, onto C (C is below A). #2 drops through B, onto D (D is below B). D is connected to A, C is connected to B. #1 accumulates one charge, #2 accumulates the opposite charge. static electricity results. look up Hans Kutil, Lord Kelvin and Viktor & Walter Schauberger :)
This explanation doesn't explain why waterdrop #1 accumulates a charge and why #2 accumulates an opposite charge, which is what the professor in the class really wants to know.
Yeah, air (which below a certain potential is an insulator) is between two conductors. This is a capacitor. The setup already stores electricity, and it already is a capacitor. It's just that the charge eventually exceeds what the "capacitor" can handle, and it regularly discharges.
never in a million years did i expect to see a Lord Kelvin Water-thread-experiment on youtube. (electrostatic water-charge by falling droplets of water). well done for posting! Viktor+Walter Schauberger also did one :)
From observing, it actually appears to be simply a Static electricity generator. The water will spead almost spraying into the 'trashcans'. If you touch the paint cans you can interrupt the buildup.
It already is storing charge, it just gets released on a regular basis. Don't use the potential to make sparks (i.e. remove the balls where the sparks appear). Then more energy will be stored.
True, that would generate it.
But then, how would you use it?
Falling water in the experiment produced only brief, if powerful, discharges, not a steady current.
PismoBeach 4 years ago
It would seem to be only static electricity, like that generated by the moving rubber belt in a Van de Graaff generator. Not useful to power anything. But still, a clever demonstration.
PismoBeach 4 years ago
Open your mind. We can harness static electricity from water being pulled by gravity, which happens every day all over the earth.
seapoidog 4 years ago
The point is WE CAN HARNESS ELECTRICITY FROM FALLING RAIN. THINK ABOUT IT. Tesla's dream: free energy for the entire world!
seapoidog 4 years ago
Dude she was so ugly... lol
linkizpure 4 years ago
my science classes were never this entertaining.
FreeGovernmentCheese 4 years ago 3
yeah, I saw the sparks at 4:20. ooh la-la...
newton2060 4 years ago
lol
AustinHansen 4 years ago
THIS guy is amazing
vampirezeth 4 years ago 2
WOW!! i did physics at Imperial Collage in London, but none of my lectures were as fun as that!!!
would've LOVED to take his lecture...!
japanda 4 years ago 3
It's pretty obvious how this works. He undoubtedly has hamsters running on tread-wheels in those trash cans.
grantwine 4 years ago 8
Funny, but if I were a hamster, I wouldn't waste my time running on a wheel. I would be trying to find a way out before I drowned. =)
holychickengod 4 years ago
lololol
linkizpure 4 years ago
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whereisthefuture9 4 years ago
That is so interestin.
It is mysterious to me how this generates charge when the anode and cathode are symetrical.
The whole set up is apparently symetrical. I guess inherent asymetry starts the process and then it build from there. Would be interesting to see what would happen if you put a control on the symetry. Definatly sparked my interest.
breadloser 4 years ago 2
It's just an electrostatic machine, based on electrostatic induction. There's always small asymetry in potentials, which like you said will build up. It's a positive feedback device.
kgrzeg 4 years ago
thisisapreviewvideo - get your facts straight.
This is not a new form of energy, and no it cannot be used as a perpetual motion machine. It may generate huge voltages, but P=VI, and the current will be very, very small.
to wattrlz - it must be water, as it conducts electricity. Ever seen sand conduct electricity? Aww, too bad then.
How about you read some information about Lord Kelvin and his experiments before jumping to wild conclusions about "new energy" and "free energy".
Chikkkk 4 years ago
Wouldn't this work a lot better if he did it with sand?
wattrlz 4 years ago
Wow, what a cliche thing to say. No, you have not made "free power"
And where did squabbling over neutrons come from? This video isn't even related to neutrons. It's related to electrons. Do you think before you type?
TheFerruccio 4 years ago 2
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fetymann 4 years ago
The professor is commiting a very common basic freshman physics error in how he is operating the experiment. The water is supposed to come out in droplets, not a continuous stream. The stream allows conduction back through, partially shorting the charge buildup. The sparks would be bigger, brighter, and more frequent otherwise.
H2earth 4 years ago
way to go citing wikipedia
MTLAccord 4 years ago
Although Wikipedia is usually correct, I do not believe it is correct in this case (although I am not sure). The reason the water seperates into droplets in this video is because the electric field is increasing, attracting the droplets to the can, thus pulling apart the water.
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Actually, it has been proven to be generally at least as accurate as the average printed encyclopedia. I regard those who doubt the veracity of Wikipedia in the same light as those who refuse to stand in front of a microwave oven while it's on...painfully misinformed and amazingly stubborn.
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ncbookz 4 years ago
lol this cracks me up... women in general is what he meant to say
ncbookz 4 years ago
YOu cut a magnetic feild every day walking around,breathing,shaking hands. Think about it turkey.Open those closed mind cells to reality as it is ,not as you wre told by them that mean to keep you down and in place and away from having free anything.
donnaboo17 4 years ago
what if the aether providses much more magnetic energy and all than you could oculd ever create so what if that were true. what if you created your own magnetic energy when you utter poor un opened minded thoughts out.
donnaboo17 4 years ago
And to think I waisted money at Radio Shack when I could've made one of these things for my flashlight...
Vinniebearinpa 4 years ago
Electro Static generator! its static from falling positive ion water brushing against the air!
OrganicDrew 4 years ago
i didn't see anything
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jasmineuseif 4 years ago
First of all not all mass has a magnetic field, secondly nothing can just cut a magnetic field, and thirdly even if you COULD cut a magnetic field it would COST energy, not make it. Still nicely thought, but just wanted to point this out.
finalart2005 4 years ago
I suppose you think that that there is no such thing as free energy in the vaccuume and it would lead to the earth baking itself,no such thing as free energy Well your wrong. Make a dip9ole babe. and stop paying your electric bill.But have an oepn mind at least. Your gonna trust them that keep you down or someone who is trying at least? Try too,will ya please?
donnaboo17 4 years ago
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Greatwhite75 4 years ago
As a matter of fact I'm open to that free energy thought but that's totally different from cutting a magnetic field. I guess you never had any basic science in whatever school you went to. I do have an open mind, but there's also something like exagerating. I could say 1+1=3 and say I have an open mind. I just trust on what I learned, what I can see and what fits in my reality. If it doesn't fit in yours, just don't take it personal.
finalart2005 4 years ago
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revengeofsuperman 4 years ago
that is crazy man i want more info on this
eman737 4 years ago
an explanation is here
rmcybernetics DOT com/projects/experiments/experiments_kelvins_thunderstorm_electrostatics.htm
subn0rma1 4 years ago
haha the girl at 4.17 looks sooooooo fucking bored
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howbigis1gb 4 years ago
A Wikipedia article that describes this phenomenon:
en.wikipedia [dot] org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper
CaputNoodle 4 years ago
Very cool. I notices that a charged comb will "bend" water from a faucet, I always wondered what a charged tube would do.
kev3d 4 years ago
this is quite amazing, and i would LOVE for someone to please fill me in on this process. my email is JayC5413 (A) hotmail. com. Please if someone could email me with the explanation I would be greatful!
jayc5413 4 years ago
self charging Kelvin Thunderstorm?
agungk 4 years ago
Hey he looks like that einstein dude
MetoKnight 4 years ago
The frictional electrification of droplets was discovered by accident in 1840, when the driver of a steam locomotive (itself a new technology) working in a colliery near Newcastle in northeast England, put his hand near a jet of high-pressure steam escaping from the boiler, and discovered that when he touched the boiler with the other hand, he received an electrical shock and saw a spark. -Please flame away.
Mavoss 4 years ago
i can't figure out how one can becomes negatively charged, and the other positively charged - for me it must be random every time the capacitors discharge
threelegduck 4 years ago
Well, why is there a positive and a negative end on any battery?
It's just the way that the power travels around the circuit, it can only go in one direction.
arcanewinds 4 years ago
tsk tsk. Flamebait. Well, for one, it IS amazing. Somethings are amazing before you understand them, and some even more so after you understand it. The bottomline it - you must and seek to understand. And HaveYouEverNoticed, I am sorry for deleting that comment. It was an accidental click, nothing more.
howbigis1gb 4 years ago
the water drop strips the air of static electricity and collects it like a capacitor... when the caps are full the DC voltage jumps the air gap.
Mavoss 4 years ago
aaaah .. that's pretty cool.
threelegduck 4 years ago
huh
alin0steglinski0 5 years ago
Why is everything about bigger and better? There's nothing to be impressed of here. Sheesh. Really.
howbigis1gb 5 years ago
Take that same water and pour it on a water mill wheel connected to a generator and I bet you get the same amount of electricity.
They both work on gravity pulling water down.
Not impressed. :/
phat989 5 years ago
Why is everything about bigger and better? There's nothing to be impressed of here. Sheesh. Really.
howbigis1gb 5 years ago
Word.
rosshildick 5 years ago
well the physics professor seems to think its the most amazing thing he's ever seen dumbass. I think i'll take his word before some irrelevant internet retard liek you. Thanks for commenting tho .. now sit down and shut up.
HaveYouEverNoticed 4 years ago 3
The point isn't efficieny. He's trying to get the students to think about how it works. Most people wouldn't immediately expect this to work. Understanding and considering this kind of stuff is really important for good design of electromechanical devices.
DigitalVG 5 years ago
Actually, I think you get less because water is only one part in ten million particles ionized (or something like that- I forget the exact number). However, I agree with you. The point isn't efficiency but the concept behind the design.
holychickengod 4 years ago
Jaime Escalante turns white!
Ledatru 5 years ago
that was the source of electricity in lost atlantida i think
sebacorp 5 years ago
It might be possible on a large scale if you used the evaporation of water (from sunlight or something).
JonMW2 5 years ago
Waterfalls all over the world...
bhudi 5 years ago
Yeah, the MIT prof does seem eccentric...go figure. Check out some of the Tesla Coil builders, it's like eccentricity and electricity go together.
fubar247 5 years ago
I didn't see the spark
thorie79 5 years ago
wow - thats a pretty cool demonstration
whats even cooler is that there is a cute girl in this obviously technical class - AMAZING!
dayammerkid 5 years ago
i do agree about the cute bit, but she does seem interested
howbigis1gb 5 years ago
could this work on a larger scale?
rocktheclock 5 years ago
It could and would work on a larger scale.
The problem that isn't obvious is that more energy is used to bring the water above the conductors than is produced by allowing the water to travel between the conductors.
Just had to say this in case you were wondering about any chance this could be used to make a perpetual energy machine.
HiddenCurriculum 5 years ago
perpetual motion from rain water you you you you ..doubter
ncbookz 4 years ago
When is going to just come and and say, "I vont to suck your blood!".
Crucible1001 5 years ago
Spreading of the wayer, metal cylinder... Not very difficult to explain and I only read 1 small course regarding the basics of electricity on university level and of course covered some electricity in chemistry classes. But this isn't at all hard!
lordmetroid 5 years ago
haha i love your user name. not big enough in my opinion.
marcuschi 5 years ago
each bottomless 'paint' can adopts an opposite charge of the other. This charge draws (attracts) water molecules with the opposite charge. So, one nozzle is plus (Positive) and the other is minus (negative). Consequently each 'trash can' fills with opposite charge molecules and transfers that charge to the 'paint' can on the other side (see wires hardly visible cross connecting). The charge builds until it is so large it begins to bend the stream of droplets. Thats where you want the spark.
AdminOnDuty 5 years ago
Goddamnit tell me how it works!? xD
vaulb 5 years ago
Esaruoho, please explain in more detail...
adessochris 5 years ago
a dropping waterdrop #1 accumulates a charge. #1 drops through A, onto C (C is below A). #2 drops through B, onto D (D is below B). D is connected to A, C is connected to B. #1 accumulates one charge, #2 accumulates the opposite charge. static electricity results. look up Hans Kutil, Lord Kelvin and Viktor & Walter Schauberger :)
esaruoho 5 years ago
Thanks for the reference esaruoho!
adessochris 5 years ago
This explanation doesn't explain why waterdrop #1 accumulates a charge and why #2 accumulates an opposite charge, which is what the professor in the class really wants to know.
pahhoehoe122 5 years ago
very impressive..
vitto 5 years ago
O_O that's impressive!!
Thor82 5 years ago
Please tell me there is a part 2 !
CrashOrgasm 5 years ago
a capacitor in the 'spark' zone would store the electicity
fubar247 5 years ago
Yeah, air (which below a certain potential is an insulator) is between two conductors. This is a capacitor. The setup already stores electricity, and it already is a capacitor. It's just that the charge eventually exceeds what the "capacitor" can handle, and it regularly discharges.
pahhoehoe122 5 years ago
never in a million years did i expect to see a Lord Kelvin Water-thread-experiment on youtube. (electrostatic water-charge by falling droplets of water). well done for posting! Viktor+Walter Schauberger also did one :)
esaruoho 5 years ago
From observing, it actually appears to be simply a Static electricity generator. The water will spead almost spraying into the 'trashcans'. If you touch the paint cans you can interrupt the buildup.
fubar247 5 years ago
its only a battery if you figure out a way of storing the electrostatic charge. any ideas how? :)
esaruoho 5 years ago
It already is storing charge, it just gets released on a regular basis. Don't use the potential to make sparks (i.e. remove the balls where the sparks appear). Then more energy will be stored.
pahhoehoe122 5 years ago
So how does it work?
adessochris 5 years ago
It is absolutely amazing. I will try to explain how this battery works. Maybe I can make one for myself.
cagrisenel 5 years ago