"Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
We have been battling with greeks throughout history and they never cried and whined like armenian bitches... these armenians are coward shits who dont deserve to live..
When we admit that we made genocide... we swear to god we will do it again and again...and lets see who can save these fucking armenian rats from our bloody hands.
we dont want arabs or jews!! nor blacks!! could please all non-white persons fuck out of Europe so we will have space to find our ways among us? since all YOU the scum do is intriques and lying!!
In the international law the Armenian allegations of genocide fail to meet the minimum standards of proof required by the UN Convection.So U.S con can pass as many resolutions as they want but leave history to the historians
Please just heads up to the Christians who is saying things like Allahsuckscock ' Allah is a Arabic translation of your Christian God', So you are saying these things to your own God...Muslims do not have a different God than yours.. Please respect
There was no Armenian genocide. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda. The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted & how Iraq had WMDs.
this is all bullshit!! There is no significant historical document that shows Turks killed Armenians in a way to be called genocide. Genocide is easy to use as a word but think about it, we never attempted to kill all nation. There could be fights and some people could be killed from both sides because it was war out there. And if some Armenians killed there, believe me it was much less than Iraqis that are killed after USA entered Iraq. or Palestinians killed in Gaza.
this is all bullshit!! There is no significant historical document that shows Turks killed Armenians in a way to be called genocide. Genocide is easy to use as a word but think about it, we never attempted to kill all nation. There could be fights and some people could be killed from both sides because it was war out there. And if some Armenians killed there, believe me it was much less than Iraqis that are killed after USA entered Iraq. or Palestinians killed in Gaza.
@kharuni u r the biggest liar...how could u deny the Armenian genocide done by evil muslims?. how could u?.there is so much proof and yet u still deny it?..my goodness!
@allahlovesmycock3 Show me a scientific proof such as a historical document or something! Second,your sentences say that you also have stereotypes about Muslim people. I am an open minded person but these are political bullshit which really don´t refer what is true. If you will keep your orientalist point of view, with hatred minded brain, it is not possible to tell you something. But don´t judge you, maybe it is your society that brought up you such way! Remember it is never late to change!
@kharuni no problem..of course i show u the proof..its well documented and photographed..in fact this is where evil Nazi learn how to commit genocide...from Muslims!....Armenian genocide Wikipedia!
@allahlovesmycock3 When I say proof I mean historical document. The picture of dead people, I could find to you hundreds of. plus wikipedia is not reliable source. One more thing, Turkey has opened historical 1 billion documents to the service of researchers from every country but guess what armenian archive is not open to researchers. for other part, look at the all genocides happened all human history you can not find one that is made from a Muslim country.
@allahlovesmycock3 Well Wikipedia is not a reliable source. And I can find hundreds of pictures, which don't show anything but tell you what! Turkish archive is open to everyone who wants to make some research and there are more than 1 billion documents. But u know what, armenian archive is not open for researchers, we are ready to face with history cos we know that we haven't done such thing. Plus, it seems you have a racist minded opinions about Islam. Again, break your stereotypes!
@kharuni those hundred of pictures does not tell u thats its genocide?..even your fellow turkish muslim professors says its genocide!...u r saying he is wrong too?.He's name is Taner Ackem..u should prove him wrong!.
@allahlovesmycock3 Well, pictures if what ? That makes no sense. Plus, I am not telling no one died, I just say that was not a genocide because in order to say that, there must be an action to eradicate all nation, in our case, Armenia was part of Ottoman Empire, they wanted to have their own country and of course, people did not welcome it, this is what happened there. Genocide is what Hitler did in Germany or what happened in Spain in 15th century.
@kharuni robert frisk rules!..u cannot deny what evil muslim turks did to Armenians..u simply cannot..the evidence is too much.......its just too much..even fellow turk is admitting...even father of modern turkey mustafa kemal atartuk admitting..why can u admit the truth?..because it was commited by evil Islam...just like the hindu genocide of india and genocide of jews in arabia by evil muslim and pedophile cock sucking muhammad!
Hey Buddy you have gone so much. I respect all your thoughts but you can not insult my prophet or my religion. I warn you not to that because this is an expected behavier from a human. If you don't behave so it's absulotely ur desicion. Besides I understand that you do not want 2 understand the reality but you want to show your hatred inside you. Ur hatred doesn't make anything to me but you can ruin yourself since hatred is like a fire inside you which may burn your heart
@kharuni it is evil Islam that insults us mankind...don't u talk about respect..evil islam and evil pedophile child rapist muhammad has no respect for others!..it is evil islam that is full of hate not me...i did not riot over silly pedophile muhammad cartoons,,,i did not kill apostates or critics of Islam and i did not force or impose evil barbaric sharia on others...its was u muslims not me....
@allahlovesmycock3 TURKIYE REMEBER FACIST RUSSIAN, FRENCH AND ARMENIAN BARBARIANS IN WORLD WAR 1!!! NOBODY CAN ATTACK MUSLIM TURKISH LANDS , OTHERWISE WE CAN PROTECT OUR LANDS BY FIGHTING! FACIST EUROPEANS AND WESTERN NATIONS, ESPECIALLY CRUSADERS, CHRISTIANS ARE OUR ENEMY!!! GREAT TURKISH NATION ALWAYS READY FOR KILLING ENEMY OF ISLAM AND ENEMY OF TURKS!!! SHAME ON ARMENIA! SHAME ON FRANCE! SHAME ON RUSSIA! SHAME ON GREECE! SHAME ON U.K! SHAME ON CHURCHILL AND U.S.A.! LONG LIVE TURKIYE!
@00thelastottoman00 its shame on evil turk not armenia...turks..have the guts and balls to admit what turks did to armenians..be a man once your life....the germans admit what they did..because they have honor and not muslims like u assholes...
• With Egypt, Jordan moving towards democracy, why don’t the 22 Arab countries accept some responsibility and carve up a state for the "Palestinians". Rather they choose to let these poor people live in squalor as refugee. Israel absorbed millions of Arab- Jews without a fuss.
The thing that that made the Jewish Holocaust survivor Primo Levi take his life in the 1980s, was the rise of Holocaust deniers. Not only did survivors have to suffer the horrors in the first instance, but then it was as if they were all delusional, and sometimes even the real perpetrators. It's exactly the same situation re the Armenian Genocide. As if it wasn't bad enough for those that dead (and survived), they have had to suffer denials, and even arguments that Turks were the real victim.
I love watching this video....ESPECIALLY when the reporter cracks up at 0:34 when the the Turk says "The Turkish arguements are becoming much more convincing..." LOL
@vakasim That's because the reporter is a human and has common sense..he didnt fall for the Turkish bs. I'm sure that if you showed anyone this video that they would crack up just like the reporter did. The Turkish arguments aren't convincing at all and are overall pathetic. sorry
Mate, this is not the point , he is the moderator he must balance the situation by calling 2 people from different parts not persons making it 2 to 1, or he must ask witty questions like hard-talk to make ounterparts to fa their weak sides of their ideas. Only answer when a turk says something against tht is , "THIS IS A KNOWN THING AND WE EVEN WON'T DEBATE ON IT" please tell me which part was not convincing (Don't forget the debate is about the word "genocide")
If you answer me I'll be happy but if you say it is well doumantedn , known fact , blah blah , then you must understand that I have theright to defend myself. You can't blame me and not to debate me holding the high ground at the sae time.If you ant me to recognize it first you have to listen to me. Ok , it is your call tostart a debate. But remember if you don't it is the same thing being happened in the big picture and conceptually wrong it is.
The worst thing is that many (if not most) Turks today have convinced themselves that there was no such a thing as genocide, and that it was just a sort of civil unrest where both Armenians and Turks were committing atrocities toward each other.
Not like that actually. First of all tuurks are not hiding anything they say what they kno , it might be right or wrong but their intention is not to hide anything. For educated ones it is widely known tht government of the time took part, but they have problem with the label genocide. Because living in turkey and knowing the time between 1912-23 , it is much more complicated than what is known. Yet these people are not proud of the action whether it is a genocide or not.
The Armenian militants were killing Turkish civilians too. Almost to the same degree that the Turks killed them. Really, the Armenians were part of the Ottoman Empire, and they wanted a separate state and were supported by Russia, who gave them arms to fight and kill the Turks. What the Turks did was common for empires in those days, though that still doesn't entirely justify what they did.
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And Armenians you don't debate your thesis and your thesis is right for you.ıf you are right open your sources why don't you open your historical sources
@dashnakk bloody history then germans or bloody history then americans or serbians or french you so proud your history look at algeria today Iraq and history don't forget crusade how many orthodxs and muslims dead also palestine no one care them but 5 people live in 1 m2 in gazza and Kurdish we did not have problem with them until you provpke and support them today they have camp ın greece. and in this camp their soldier doing traning for the kill innocent child
Genocide or no Genocide, the fact remains that Turks are and always have been an amalgamation of European Asians with Christianity on the demise and Islam on the rise but kept in check by a badly dressed military. Having been to Istanbul, I found it aggressive...I only have memories of cheap chicken kebaps and yougurt to be drank...Turkey gives very little, and takes/grabs and squanders all in its path, including each other...They are bitches to a crumbling system...
Genocide or no Genocide, the fact remains that Turks are and always have been an amalgamation of European Asians with Christianity on the demise and Islam on the rise but kept in check by a badly dressed military. Having been to Istanbul, I found it aggressive...I only have memories of cheap chicken kebaps and yougurt to be drank...Turkey gives very little, and takes/grabs and squanders all in its pate, including each other...They are bitches to a crumbling system...
By the way " Stick your EU in your ass" ..EU is collapsing and collapsing BIG TIME and the climate change is not in your favor, too...do you know what that means.. that means "pay back time" for your evil actions through the ages..do you know what's gonna happen? you'll have an ice age in Europa.. "Don't ever come to Turkey for shelter"...Ca-pis !!!
You can make all your resolutions passed in your congress...anybody, any country can do it...If I was the president, I could pass resolution on American genocide on Native Americans, England's genocide in India, Israel's genocide in Philistine, Russian genocide all over the place, Spanish genocide in South America...etc..etc
When you look at the history, you can see who is the master in genocide...you have history of burning people alive and you still celebrate the day as St.Hans..Retards!!!
I am not a rude person or that I can not handle others ideas and thoughts, but when I know someone is lying and lying BIG TIME without any true historical record what so ever..just because he is saying "go and read the historical records" does not make him right. I can hear that he didn't read any historical record but some authors or historians hypothesis...archives are open fully in Turkey...I bet you've never been in Turkey for that reason but a cheap holiday where you served as a King!!!
@necroxeon I have never met a more sensible and understanding Turkish person. I am a Singaporean Indian and i agree that the genocide happened. Unfortunately, here on Youtube, one of your country-men decided to call me an Indian scum and went on to state that i was smelly and inferior to Europeans. I know that all Turkish people are not like this but this shows that in the face of historical facts, some people are still ignorant.
@MrStrawhatlegend I apologize for that person who is calling himself a Turk. Ignorant people are everywhere. Most Turks are forgetting the racist Europans (mostly neo-nazi germans) calling all turks smelly sandniggers and hoping all Turks would leave their homeland GERMANY.....So it is hard to understand why a Turk would be a racist against any other nation. Again I am sorry for that person, please do not think that all Turks are this way
@necroxeon No offense taken, every race has it's fair share of ignorant people . But what I can't understand is why the Turkish people want to deny such a blatant and obvious genocide?
From one side they don;t want to believe their ancestors were capable of such horrific things. On other side, they are afraid recognising genocide they will have to recognise they stole Armenian lands, history, culture,genetics.Hunred of thousan Armenian orphans were Turkisfied and Islamized and today their descendants think of themselves as "Turks" but in fact look like an average Armenian. Most part of Armenian hisotry lies in Turkey and presented to the world as "Turkish".
And there is no such a country in the world DENYING Armenian Genocide apart from Turkey and its little friendly hyena, Azerbaijan. I would rather believe the international communtiy than only one country, Turkey, where a spoilt history is taught.
Please see Wikipedia - Armenian Genocide Recognition
Only 22 counties recognised it out of about 200 , don't lie. And don't answer me only Turkey DENIED it, of course only Turkey will deny because the concept denial can only be commited by someone who has been ACCUSED. Don't play with the words, about this issue there are much more important and significcant diversities to talk about. But your argument is totally meanless.
1st: you are not the one to tell me what to do and what not to do. I perfectly know what to do.
2nd: Those 200 countries never DENIED the fact of the Armenian Genocide (apart from 2). Moreover, it was recognized were it was discussed, may be apart from Israel for (political reasons).
3rd: Please read some official institutional level documents on this matter before bringing me some random thoughts based on turkish education and media, e.g. International Assoc of Genocide Scholars, etc
Pal , it is a rhetoric , to tell , do or not do that , don 't get angry. But in your item 2 you definitely said something I already anwered. Denial can only be made by turkey in this issue , others may only "not recognise" , so it is natural for turky to be odd in this situation. USA did not recognized it too btw. Yet , dude it is political everywhere you made it voted in parliements, what do you expect apart from politics ?
About third party sources you mentioned , there is internet now so alleging that I'm fed with tukish edicational system is not a defitiely true argument. I'M reading something about that. But because we both accept that it was an awful atrocity and tragedy still we fell apart when we name it, it is an conceptual debate not a factual one.
@Tigranchius Give me a break, WIKIPEDIA AS A VIABLE SOURCE??? LOL...
Please see armeniangenocidedebate com/archives FOR A LINK TO THE ACTUAL HISTORICAL ARCHIVES OF TURKEY, RUSSIA, BRITAIN, AMERICA PROVING THE ARMENIAN ALLEGATIONS ARE FALSE, THIS IS NO 'WIKIPEDIA', THIS IS NOT A PRO-TURKISH OR PRO-ARMENIAN SITE.
WHY ARE THE ARMENIAN ARCHIVES CLOSED AND TURKEY'S ARE OPEN, WHY HAS ARMENIA REFUSED TURKISH OFFERS TO INVESTIGATE THE MATTER TOGETHER?
1. You don't need to type in capitals. I have normal eyesight.
2. Armenian archives are open. You talk about the idea of establishment of the committee of historians which is another step to question the well established fact of the Armenian Genocide (the fact recognized by 22 world leading countries, and 43 US states, based on their own archives).
3. You bring me Turkish blogs and at the same time call wiki as false :) Please bring me an institution level source, e.g. IAGS, etc...
@Tigranchius LOL, It's not a blog, it's not Turkish. Armenian archives are not open they are closed google it if you don't know stop talking out of your ass. Go into the photographs section of that site which you think is a blog, and you will see the official Turkish Government's invitation to Armenians to investigate the issue...You can buy as many people and world leaders with your lobbies and money as you want it's not going to change the facts nor will it change what the archives say
@Ekimoglu BECAUSE TURKISH GOVERNMENT WAS SAYING LETS OPEN THE ARCHIVES AND OUR HISTORICANS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.....AND THEN IF IT REALLY HAPPENED WE WILL WRITE IN HISTORY AND IT WILL BE OUR PAST HISTORY...........BUT ARMENIAN SIDE SAID WAIT A MINUTE...>>>> TURKISH HAVE TO GIVE OUR HISTORICAL LANDS BACK>>>>>>>>>>IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WRITE IN HISOTRY BOOKS AND THATS IT>>>>>>>
@Ekimoglu u fukin irrational prik armenia is economically and politically isolated and turkey threatens them about it and americas strategic friend is turkey so america avoids upsetting them. actual historical archives proves that there right only because turkey found one piece of paper on what a diplomat said dey went on about it still even the herald newspaper has all the clippings a los angeles newspaper has a interview wid ataturk where ataturks condemns it so fuk off
The Armenian Genocide is a widely recognized and documented fact as well Holocaust. E.g., International Assosiation of Genocide Scholars; Raphael Lemkin, the inventor of the word 'genocide', based on the Armenian Genocide when creating the word; more than 22 leading countries in the world and 44 USA states, the US foreign ministry, the European Parliament, the majority of the world leading mass media (BBC, CNN, NYT, etc.).
@AntiZionistCIAShill Ahahah who the fuck are you?! Turks have many benefits in the Nato ;) and kurds did the genocide. They all brag that east Turkey is filled with Kurds for centuries. Now it was the Turks? lol
▋▋ See the oustanding documentation made by Eric Friedler about the truth of the Armenian Genocide, with many proofs, long time hidden in order not to harm turkey and which can not be denied. The documentation was shown twice on two notable German TV stations in April this year and will be shown again in September. ▋▋
@Zulum75 No, it did not happen as you think. What books have you read to say that it happened. You must be part of the horde you is a blind boy with a noose around his head.
Even the world's most famous genocider (Hitler) admitted in a speech that the Armenian Genocide happened, and used the tiny amount of knowledge people had about it to convince people that they could commit the Holocaust and keep it secret from the rest of the world! So tell me, Turkey. Why is it that the Holocaust has been admitted to, but not the Armenian Genocide?
Armenia should open its archives and then they can talk. Turkish archives are opened to everyone.
until 1915 122.000 Turkish, Kurdish, Tatar and Jewish civilians were killed by armenians who wanted to create a PURE armenian state with the help of Tsarist Russia.
@traitorARMENiANyan You are a perfect example of a clueless turk. Armenia does not have archives on genocide because it was not reestablished untill 1918 (After the genocide occured). Instead we have British archives, American archives, American missionary archives, Russian archives, German and Austrian archives (The allies of the turks during world war 1). You are like a broken record, learn facts before you talk.
You are a perfect example of brainwashed armenians who have inferiority complex.
You can read my profile before you call me some name and stop lying. you are really moron. You lost the 1915 war and you still live with the pain of it. you are butthurt.
Now, go cry in front of US congress door and beg. now ! go go go !
@traitorARMENiANyan you were crying about armenian archives and i proved you wrong. Now you change the direction of this conversation, i expected that. You are not the first twisted turk i spoke to and i am sure you wont be the last. Now reply to my message about the ARCHIVES, if you got nothing to say about it, admit your stupidity and move on.
lol when did you prove me wrong. Did you even read my profile?
There's the answer. The archives of the armenian terrorist organization which killed thousands of Turks are closed. read my profile and shut up now.. and again go cry in front of US congress door and beg.. now! go go go !
@traitorARMENiANyan I wouldnt waste a second reading your 1 sided propaganda. How did i prove you wrong? Simple. You said "why wont Armenia open its archives?" and i told you that Armenia was not reestablished untill 1918 ( after the genocide accured) So how do you expect Armenia open the archives when we dont have any....but we do have the archives of the Americans, British, Russian, German and Austrians. Now you tell me HOW i proved you WRONG. I can see we are going in circles already....
@traitorARMENiANyan quick look at your page and it is nothing but a joke. No credible sources = no credibility. With your attitude i cant even have a civil arguement with you. Go spread more propaganda. You are sinking your own ship and dont even know it.
..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
I find it is unfortunate that we never mention Assyrians and Pontic Greeks. It wasn't an Armenian Genocide. It was an OTTOMAN CHRISTIAN Genocide.
But nevertheless, by recognizing the Armenian Genocide, they also recognize the Assyrian and Pontic Greek genocide. The Armenian Genocide opens the doors for your genocide's recognition as well.
The Armenians have revolted against the government in 1915!
More than 60,000 Armenians have joined the French army to support them against the Ottomans!
Many villages and some big town such as Van have been totally ruined and over 6,000 people have been killed by the Armenians only in the city of VAN.
The truth is that the Armenians ware the ones who have committed GENOCIDE!
Little kids have been boiled and served as food to their parents by the Armenians, they never mention that!
On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obviously Germany can't deny that there was a genocide against the Jews because the whole world was involved in WWII but just how many countries can actually point out that the Ottoman empire deliberately tried to wipe out the Armenians?
If the EU wants Turkey to accept the genocide clause in order for it to be accepted by them then they got the best excuse to keep Turkey out.
Önce ABD kendi yaptiklarini oylasin, bu olay tamamen politik, Türkiye'nin orta dogu politikasi birilerine uymuyor, baski olarak Ermeni meselesini kullaniyorlar.
Jobs. Jobs are what Turks need, and EU Countries need cheap labor. Cheap because - their economies are pretty advanced, and thats all what Turks have to offer to EU.
Europe is a "volatile" region?!!!!LOL..and "bankrupt"?!!!!LOL. Than WHAT is a nation that relies on U.S. and British support, and who's only economic contribution to future EU membership be cheap labor for pants and tee-shirts(turkey)?!!!!LOL. While turkey struggles with 100% inflation, 70% foreign owned stock, and an 87% literacy rate..Europe has the best of engineering, the largest merchant navy, and the strongest currency..LOL. Keep trying to dream a reality..LOL. turks=BARBARIANS.
turkey's funding from the IMF expired ni May 2009, and was for a 10 billion dollar loan to keep it's economy from collapsing. Things like these loans are last resports fro nations like turkey, who are quite behind in social and economic progress. They have been receiveing loaned money since 1999 from the IMF, and the interst raet has caused a combines inflation rate of 100% on it's production and loans/funding. Understand?. turkish prices can't compete with foreign imports.
Because Turkey was spared from the recent financial crisis, Turkey felt it didn't need any more IMF support (2 year deal of $20-$30 billion dollars deal) because "it did not need emergency funds" (New York Times)
Turkey faced her own financial crisis and that pushed the country to be fiscally disciplined. Major credit rating agencies have given a favorable sovereign rating to Turkey because Turkey has weathered external financial shocks and the economy is expected to grow 3.5 percent this year.
"Further" funding?!!!!LOL. What did turkey accomplish with it's 10 billion dollar loan?!!!!LOL. turkey's economic contribution is as has been stated..cheap factory labor for pants and shirts.
meh, as long as people are employed and earn enough money to jump-start domestic consumerism...that's much better environment to have than what's going in some parts of the EU.
The literacy rate of turkey took THIS long to get to 87%, so I don't expect the world to wait for them to catch up..LOL. Europe certainly benefits from uneducated, cheap labor workers like turks, but not at the cost of funding a large nation with a huge population, and an unstable economy..not to mention the crime that comes with such people. AS for foreign stock..it's a clear indicator of turkey's lack of progressive thinking; even as it is a resource rich country.
You're already biased towards Turkey that's why you don't see the 87% literature rate as a progress rather than a setback. Remember, there are countries with much lesser population that is struggling to increase their literature rate.
Before 2008, yes you could say that Turkey's economy was unstable but compared to what's going on in Europe, no one even talks about Turkey's economy. Hell, even IMF is asking EU members to receive foreign aid (the EU won't allow).
What I "see" is nation that is FAR behind the west in terms of education and progress. PERIOD.
turkey survives on two things..it's strategic location in the middle east; and as a result, an opportunity to work for cheap labor, making pants and shirts. 70% foreign investments makes turkey a slave to it's owners, instead of progressing in an independant way. Most of this is simply a backwards attitude.
Weve seen what happens to countries that solely rely on foreign credit and consume more than what they can afford. Austerity plan is the new keyword in some parts of the EU. Turkey realizes that it cant just have what it wants at the cost of nothing.
Actually, turkey's existance LARGLY is based on just that..foreign credit. While lending, and borrowing in itself is not bad..having no productivity is. turkey needs to restructure it's social aspects, then it's economic will follow. Germany has had it easy for a LONG time, and now their not getting their way. Greece is a scapegoat for other economic issues associated with Europe. While Spain and Ireland are in MUCH worse shape, Greece is the political target.
I agree that nations should be fiscally responsible. I also agree with you that Greece shouldn't be the only nation that is on the spotlight while other nations that are in much worse economic conditions are intentionally overlooked. You know, there are some European countries that are too big to fail and they will be helped much more quickly than Greece or Iceland (at least that's what I assume the top EU members think). Even so, the EU would step in for Greece just for image sake.
Look at the debt external of Greece ($552.8 billion in 09 up from $504.6 billion in 08) and Turkey ($274 billion 2009 down from $278.1 billion in 08). Being financially responsible has its own consequences (ex. slow progress in spreading education and health care) just as being financially irresponsible (having all but cant pay for them).
Once again..DO YOU LIVE IN AN ECONOMIC-SOCIAL BUBBLE?!!!!!LOL. GREECE?!!!!LOL. Greece went into serious debt after hosting the Olympics during the worst economy Europe had(and has) seen since WW2..yet Greece is generally between 20th-24th in national wealth per capita; and nations like Spain owe TWICE as much as Greece, Ireland owes CONSIDERABLY more..and Greece still has the worlds largest merchant navy, and is the biggest exporter of olive oil.
Also, if Germany deducted what it owes Greece from damages from the war(which were never compensated), Greece would be DEBT FREE. The U.S. is in SERIOUS debt, yet it's at the top as an economic power. The difference between the west and turkey is productivity. Debt for turkey is a result of of a people who unlike a nation like Greece, have HUGE resources, yet don't have the social or educational progress to produce. PERIOD.
I'm not sure who your reffering to as "pigs", but until turkey can catch up to the civilized world.."pigs" is as good of a definition as "worthless" and "burdensome" when it comes to dealing with the thinking and acting of a large portion of it's citizens and government..LOL. To compare turkey to "Europe", in any way, shape, or form is laughable..LOL.
PIGS is referred to the countries with failing economies within the EU (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain). The likes of Germany and France fear just how much of financial aid should they provide to these nations without bringing themselves down.
If the so-called "pigs" are a nusance, what would turkey be to the EU?!!!!LOL. AN OVERWHELMING DISASTER. Greece has the WORLDS largest navy, would be debt free if Germany paid the damages it owns Greece after the war(which the Greeks faugh off the nazis for 6 months..unlike France, who was taken in days), Italy produces Armani, Versace, Ferrari, etc. Spain and Ireland are LEAPS AND BOUNDS wealthier than turkey in wealth per capita. turkey isn'T up to European standards. PERIOD
-"Greece has the WORLDS largest navy"-What about America, Russia or China?
-"Italy produces Armani, Versace, Ferrari,"-Yeah they do, who said they didnt?
-Spain and Ireland are LEAPS AND BOUNDS wealthier than turkey in wealth per capita.-I didnt say they werent but I did say that theyre in a financial crisis unlike Turkey. Lets see how Germany and France respond to Greeces financial problems first. Even the Germans suggested that Greek islands should be up for sale.
Try to get in the mindset of an "anti-Turkey in EU) politician in Brussels :D
Sweden was the latest country to think there was a genocide...it's spreading like wildfire and I suspect they're laughing behind closed doors.
These crocodile tears coming from nations that are behind some of the worst human sufferings makes me suspect if they're actually using the Turkey-Armenian issue for their own political aims.
American politicians only care about re-elections and will work with any strong lobby group. I bet you that they can't even point out where Armenia is on the map :D
What an ignorant man! He says "Eu should welcome muslim state Turkey.", "We wouldn't accept Germany in EU, if they didn't accept Holocoust"
1)Turkey is not a muslim state but a secular one.
2) And what the... Without Germany's participation that was and is now the motor of the EU, a European Union wouldn't exists, at all. And a British man whose country was vetoed to be party of EU twice, says these... Ridiculous.
why u think there so eager to acept every 1 why do they want there feet in the door why would they accept greese when they knew they were to poor when so many spoke out on it cause they looked at the numbers if plp like me can see what there doin with just common sense others must see it to when all the monies are gone and the land is snatched up u will remeber plp told u what they had seen from the outside looking in
Was it the Ottoman empire and not the state of Turkey ,and Turkey was a subjugated state and as such is innocent of the crimes, committed in there former state ,this is a ruse to degenerate Turkey to the level of israel as stated by one of israels officials ,so start admitting things a little more up to date , why doesn't that jewish ass kissing pommie pratt get israel to admit its ethnic cleansing in Palestine, right know ,thats jewish opression ,full of forged lies ,,
It is hypocritical to ignore what is currently happing all over the world, and just focusing on Turks. After all, has our congress condemned British for Africans genocide and slavery?
LMAO look at Robert Lavell keeping himself from laughing when the Turk is talking shananigans lol .. convincing huh lol you have to be a dumb as donkey to think that. GO ROBERT !!! lol there are not such documents? lol u gots to be kidding me .. what a jack ass
Even if the do admit it they still should not join the EU, it's a savage islamic state. Europe is no place for central asian invaders. Plus, they do actually admit it in private and they are damn proud of their successful genocides of all Christian peoples whose lands they now occupy.
Even if the do admit it they still should not join the EU, it's a savage islamic state. Europe is no place for central asian invaders. Plus, they do actually admit it in private and they are damn proud of their successful genocides of all Christian peoples whose lands they now occupy.
Who the hell are you to say so? A hungry country with still remaining Soviet poverty, and junks is against Turkey's membership? It won't make any change I suppose.
I have never doubted that during and after WWI Turkey committed a genocide on Armenians.
However I am wondering why it took almost 100 years for Turkish NATO ally USA to come to that conclusion? Why does USA condemns Turkish policy NOW for something happened 100 almost 100 years ago?
Is that maybe because Turkey is becoming increasingly INDEPENDENT from the western imperialists in Washington and Brussels?
Turkey dares to make business deals with Russia, despite the opposition from Washington and Brussels!
For example Russia will be building the very first nuclear power plant in Turkey. Turkey is making deals with Russia in oil and gas sphere. Turkey wants to join Russian led South Stream gas pipeline project to pump Russian and Central Asian natural gas to Europe across Black sea....
All that is not received well in Washington and therefore this genocide is just a form of attack on Turkey.
"Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?" - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
MightyAlz 4 weeks ago
We have been battling with greeks throughout history and they never cried and whined like armenian bitches... these armenians are coward shits who dont deserve to live..
leaanka 1 month ago
When we admit that we made genocide... we swear to god we will do it again and again...and lets see who can save these fucking armenian rats from our bloody hands.
leaanka 1 month ago
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the whole world knows.... including one of the genocide planners' grandson (hasam cemal). anyone who lies, is merely living a lie himself.
/watch?v=fgJ35-UcmAk
nuneh 2 months ago
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nuneh 2 months ago
God bless Robert Fisk for standing up to Turkish crimes
ArmenianNetwork 3 months ago
Yea admit it!
sarkisw85 3 months ago
we dont want arabs or jews!! nor blacks!! could please all non-white persons fuck out of Europe so we will have space to find our ways among us? since all YOU the scum do is intriques and lying!!
TheVeneth 7 months ago
jews.. everywhere jews.. look at them!
TheVeneth 7 months ago
In the international law the Armenian allegations of genocide fail to meet the minimum standards of proof required by the UN Convection.So U.S con can pass as many resolutions as they want but leave history to the historians
izaak1211 7 months ago
I deny it too.
or I don't know we can deny something already never exist ?
dier505 7 months ago
Youtube This Video : TURKISH PRIME MINISTER TALKS ABOUT ARMENIAN "GENOCIDE"
facts :)
kharuni 7 months ago
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The puppets who bark like mad dogs for their Owners to hide the historic truths are the scums of the Earth.
arzoyan 8 months ago
Today, 19 of May is the day of commemoration of the Pontid Genocide committed by Ottoman Turks...My condolences to Greek brothers and sisters!...;-(
BeautySavesWorld 8 months ago
@BeautySavesWorld TURKIYE REMEBER FACIST EOKA, ASALA AND ARMENIAN TASHNAK BARBARISM!!!
TURKIYE REMEBER GALLIPOLI WAR AGAINST BARBARIAN ARMIES OF CHRISTIAN DOGS!!!
ALLAH-U EKBER!
00thelastottoman00 7 months ago
Please just heads up to the Christians who is saying things like Allahsuckscock ' Allah is a Arabic translation of your Christian God', So you are saying these things to your own God...Muslims do not have a different God than yours.. Please respect
necroxeon 8 months ago
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There was no Armenian genocide. In related news, there were never any Beothuks in Newfoundland; it's just a fantasy story. No Aborigines ever existed in Tasmania; it's all just propaganda. The Bo people of China were just a myth. The Yahi of California were just a hoax made up by liberal politicians. And last, the British were actually kind & generous to the Irish. Stay tuned. After the break Sarah Palin will be joining us to explain how humans & dinosaurs coexisted & how Iraq had WMDs.
ArmenOfTheNorth 9 months ago
armenian genocide is the first big lie of the 20th century.
pulp1606 10 months ago
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this is all bullshit!! There is no significant historical document that shows Turks killed Armenians in a way to be called genocide. Genocide is easy to use as a word but think about it, we never attempted to kill all nation. There could be fights and some people could be killed from both sides because it was war out there. And if some Armenians killed there, believe me it was much less than Iraqis that are killed after USA entered Iraq. or Palestinians killed in Gaza.
kharuni 10 months ago
this is all bullshit!! There is no significant historical document that shows Turks killed Armenians in a way to be called genocide. Genocide is easy to use as a word but think about it, we never attempted to kill all nation. There could be fights and some people could be killed from both sides because it was war out there. And if some Armenians killed there, believe me it was much less than Iraqis that are killed after USA entered Iraq. or Palestinians killed in Gaza.
kharuni 10 months ago
@kharuni
/watch?v=pzRjaSD1yzA
Check the entire Conferance
FedayTek 10 months ago
@kharuni u r the biggest liar...how could u deny the Armenian genocide done by evil muslims?. how could u?.there is so much proof and yet u still deny it?..my goodness!
allahlovesmycock3 9 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3 Show me a scientific proof such as a historical document or something! Second,your sentences say that you also have stereotypes about Muslim people. I am an open minded person but these are political bullshit which really don´t refer what is true. If you will keep your orientalist point of view, with hatred minded brain, it is not possible to tell you something. But don´t judge you, maybe it is your society that brought up you such way! Remember it is never late to change!
kharuni 9 months ago
@kharuni no problem..of course i show u the proof..its well documented and photographed..in fact this is where evil Nazi learn how to commit genocide...from Muslims!....Armenian genocide Wikipedia!
allahlovesmycock3 9 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3 When I say proof I mean historical document. The picture of dead people, I could find to you hundreds of. plus wikipedia is not reliable source. One more thing, Turkey has opened historical 1 billion documents to the service of researchers from every country but guess what armenian archive is not open to researchers. for other part, look at the all genocides happened all human history you can not find one that is made from a Muslim country.
kharuni 9 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3 Well Wikipedia is not a reliable source. And I can find hundreds of pictures, which don't show anything but tell you what! Turkish archive is open to everyone who wants to make some research and there are more than 1 billion documents. But u know what, armenian archive is not open for researchers, we are ready to face with history cos we know that we haven't done such thing. Plus, it seems you have a racist minded opinions about Islam. Again, break your stereotypes!
kharuni 9 months ago
@kharuni those hundred of pictures does not tell u thats its genocide?..even your fellow turkish muslim professors says its genocide!...u r saying he is wrong too?.He's name is Taner Ackem..u should prove him wrong!.
allahlovesmycock3 9 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3 Well, pictures if what ? That makes no sense. Plus, I am not telling no one died, I just say that was not a genocide because in order to say that, there must be an action to eradicate all nation, in our case, Armenia was part of Ottoman Empire, they wanted to have their own country and of course, people did not welcome it, this is what happened there. Genocide is what Hitler did in Germany or what happened in Spain in 15th century.
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kharuni 9 months ago
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@allahlovesmycock3 Ok Just look up Prof. Justin McCarty on YouTube. He is a American historian, He tells about the truth!
kharuni 9 months ago
@kharuni robert frisk rules!..u cannot deny what evil muslim turks did to Armenians..u simply cannot..the evidence is too much.......its just too much..even fellow turk is admitting...even father of modern turkey mustafa kemal atartuk admitting..why can u admit the truth?..because it was commited by evil Islam...just like the hindu genocide of india and genocide of jews in arabia by evil muslim and pedophile cock sucking muhammad!
allahlovesmycock3 9 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3
Hey Buddy you have gone so much. I respect all your thoughts but you can not insult my prophet or my religion. I warn you not to that because this is an expected behavier from a human. If you don't behave so it's absulotely ur desicion. Besides I understand that you do not want 2 understand the reality but you want to show your hatred inside you. Ur hatred doesn't make anything to me but you can ruin yourself since hatred is like a fire inside you which may burn your heart
kharuni 7 months ago
@kharuni it is evil Islam that insults us mankind...don't u talk about respect..evil islam and evil pedophile child rapist muhammad has no respect for others!..it is evil islam that is full of hate not me...i did not riot over silly pedophile muhammad cartoons,,,i did not kill apostates or critics of Islam and i did not force or impose evil barbaric sharia on others...its was u muslims not me....
allahlovesmycock3 7 months ago
00thelastottoman00 7 months ago
@00thelastottoman00 its shame on evil turk not armenia...turks..have the guts and balls to admit what turks did to armenians..be a man once your life....the germans admit what they did..because they have honor and not muslims like u assholes...
allahlovesmycock3 7 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3 TURKIYE NEVER ACCEPT FACIST MADE FAKE GENOCIDE!!!
TODAY ENEMY OF TURKIYE ACCEPT FAKE GENOCIDE!!!
TURKIYE ACCEPT GENOCIDE OF TURKS AND AZERI BROTHERS!!!
ARMENIAN TASHNAK AND ASALA GROUPS KILLED MUSLIM TURKS!!!
SHAME ON ARMENIA!!
TURKIYE REMEBER FACIST TERRORIST ARMENIANS AND GREEKS!
TURKIYE REMEBER FACIST BRITISH, RUSSIAN, AUSTRALIAN, FRENCH ARMIES IN GALLIPOLI!!!
EU AND ALL FACIST CRUSADERS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE!
TURKIYE REJECT ALL FACIST THEORIES!
ALLAH-U EKBER!
00thelastottoman00 7 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3 REMEBER TURKISH CITIZEN ARMENIAN PATRICK MESROB MUTAFYAN!
LONG LIVE MY BROTHER MESROB MUTAFYAN!
MESROB MUTAFYAN IS PATRICK OF ALL TURKIYE!
LONG LIVE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF TURKIYE!!!!
ALLAH-U EKBER!
00thelastottoman00 7 months ago
@allahlovesmycock3 are you christian or a believer of God?
necroxeon 8 months ago
@necroxeon i believe in humanity!......
allahlovesmycock3 8 months ago
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Jordan is Palestine al-Watan al-Badil,
watch?v=yIy0JLUmarg
• With Egypt, Jordan moving towards democracy, why don’t the 22 Arab countries accept some responsibility and carve up a state for the "Palestinians". Rather they choose to let these poor people live in squalor as refugee. Israel absorbed millions of Arab- Jews without a fuss.
rockynanach 11 months ago
The thing that that made the Jewish Holocaust survivor Primo Levi take his life in the 1980s, was the rise of Holocaust deniers. Not only did survivors have to suffer the horrors in the first instance, but then it was as if they were all delusional, and sometimes even the real perpetrators. It's exactly the same situation re the Armenian Genocide. As if it wasn't bad enough for those that dead (and survived), they have had to suffer denials, and even arguments that Turks were the real victim.
Sleepyrainlover 11 months ago
I am an Azeri citezen, I don't deny any Genocide, armenian or not, russian or not, every genocide sets history in a step back
AranTheAsskiker 11 months ago
I love watching this video....ESPECIALLY when the reporter cracks up at 0:34 when the the Turk says "The Turkish arguements are becoming much more convincing..." LOL
ArmoWings 1 year ago
@ArmoWings
Which was disgusting in terms of moderate a debate. Fisk is a real man but the reporter is a mess.
vakasim 11 months ago
@vakasim That's because the reporter is a human and has common sense..he didnt fall for the Turkish bs. I'm sure that if you showed anyone this video that they would crack up just like the reporter did. The Turkish arguments aren't convincing at all and are overall pathetic. sorry
ArmoWings 11 months ago
@ArmoWings
Mate, this is not the point , he is the moderator he must balance the situation by calling 2 people from different parts not persons making it 2 to 1, or he must ask witty questions like hard-talk to make ounterparts to fa their weak sides of their ideas. Only answer when a turk says something against tht is , "THIS IS A KNOWN THING AND WE EVEN WON'T DEBATE ON IT" please tell me which part was not convincing (Don't forget the debate is about the word "genocide")
vakasim 11 months ago
@ArmoWings
If you answer me I'll be happy but if you say it is well doumantedn , known fact , blah blah , then you must understand that I have theright to defend myself. You can't blame me and not to debate me holding the high ground at the sae time.If you ant me to recognize it first you have to listen to me. Ok , it is your call tostart a debate. But remember if you don't it is the same thing being happened in the big picture and conceptually wrong it is.
vakasim 11 months ago
The worst thing is that many (if not most) Turks today have convinced themselves that there was no such a thing as genocide, and that it was just a sort of civil unrest where both Armenians and Turks were committing atrocities toward each other.
memphis8766 1 year ago
@memphis8766
Not like that actually. First of all tuurks are not hiding anything they say what they kno , it might be right or wrong but their intention is not to hide anything. For educated ones it is widely known tht government of the time took part, but they have problem with the label genocide. Because living in turkey and knowing the time between 1912-23 , it is much more complicated than what is known. Yet these people are not proud of the action whether it is a genocide or not.
vakasim 11 months ago
The Armenian militants were killing Turkish civilians too. Almost to the same degree that the Turks killed them. Really, the Armenians were part of the Ottoman Empire, and they wanted a separate state and were supported by Russia, who gave them arms to fight and kill the Turks. What the Turks did was common for empires in those days, though that still doesn't entirely justify what they did.
darklord747 1 year ago
@darklord747 euh Blah! Really? and Turkey , with much luck, landed most of Armenia's land with the other leeches from the north, I bet. No?
facep15 1 year ago
Bart Oganes TERROR EN FACEBOOK AYER EN LA PAGINA PERIODISTAS SIN FRONTERAS. TV AVIAN UNOS VIDIOS SOBRE CORUPCION DE JUSGADOS Y EN SNI ESPAÑA y OY LO SERRARON LA PAGINA SINIFIKA QUE.......
vardan7716 1 year ago
And Armenians you don't debate your thesis and your thesis is right for you.ıf you are right open your sources why don't you open your historical sources
tlhdrssr 1 year ago
turks are wild nation with dirty history.
what we can decide ? just block turkish goverment to all world.
no way for turks. just one way recognize genocide and maybe after the world will understand.
however turks are dirty national. and turkish history totaly made by by blood.
ask Greece ask Assirian ask Kurdish,so all neihgbour really hate turks.
ask your self why?? how it possible when all your neihbour hate one country?
the answer is turks hand full of blood.
dashnakk 1 year ago
@dashnakk bloody history then germans or bloody history then americans or serbians or french you so proud your history look at algeria today Iraq and history don't forget crusade how many orthodxs and muslims dead also palestine no one care them but 5 people live in 1 m2 in gazza and Kurdish we did not have problem with them until you provpke and support them today they have camp ın greece. and in this camp their soldier doing traning for the kill innocent child
tlhdrssr 1 year ago
@tlhdrssr other than greeks and armenia?
necroxeon 1 year ago
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Genocide or no Genocide, the fact remains that Turks are and always have been an amalgamation of European Asians with Christianity on the demise and Islam on the rise but kept in check by a badly dressed military. Having been to Istanbul, I found it aggressive...I only have memories of cheap chicken kebaps and yougurt to be drank...Turkey gives very little, and takes/grabs and squanders all in its path, including each other...They are bitches to a crumbling system...
afterdavit 1 year ago
Genocide or no Genocide, the fact remains that Turks are and always have been an amalgamation of European Asians with Christianity on the demise and Islam on the rise but kept in check by a badly dressed military. Having been to Istanbul, I found it aggressive...I only have memories of cheap chicken kebaps and yougurt to be drank...Turkey gives very little, and takes/grabs and squanders all in its pate, including each other...They are bitches to a crumbling system...
afterdavit 1 year ago
By the way " Stick your EU in your ass" ..EU is collapsing and collapsing BIG TIME and the climate change is not in your favor, too...do you know what that means.. that means "pay back time" for your evil actions through the ages..do you know what's gonna happen? you'll have an ice age in Europa.. "Don't ever come to Turkey for shelter"...Ca-pis !!!
Tekemas 1 year ago
@Tekemas I am not too sure your people are that nice, really.
afterdavit 1 year ago
You can make all your resolutions passed in your congress...anybody, any country can do it...If I was the president, I could pass resolution on American genocide on Native Americans, England's genocide in India, Israel's genocide in Philistine, Russian genocide all over the place, Spanish genocide in South America...etc..etc
When you look at the history, you can see who is the master in genocide...you have history of burning people alive and you still celebrate the day as St.Hans..Retards!!!
Tekemas 1 year ago
I am not a rude person or that I can not handle others ideas and thoughts, but when I know someone is lying and lying BIG TIME without any true historical record what so ever..just because he is saying "go and read the historical records" does not make him right. I can hear that he didn't read any historical record but some authors or historians hypothesis...archives are open fully in Turkey...I bet you've never been in Turkey for that reason but a cheap holiday where you served as a King!!!
Tekemas 1 year ago
as a turkish citizen i personally dont deny it
necroxeon 1 year ago 18
@necroxeon As a Turk i do not dent it too, and ready to do it again if Armenians want Anatolia..
cengzhan 1 year ago
@necroxeon
If more turkish people were like you i would not have problems with most turks
TheLolizzZ 1 year ago
@necroxeon As a Turk i also do not deny it. We are ready to do it again :)
cengzhan 10 months ago
@necroxeon I have never met a more sensible and understanding Turkish person. I am a Singaporean Indian and i agree that the genocide happened. Unfortunately, here on Youtube, one of your country-men decided to call me an Indian scum and went on to state that i was smelly and inferior to Europeans. I know that all Turkish people are not like this but this shows that in the face of historical facts, some people are still ignorant.
MrStrawhatlegend 9 months ago
@MrStrawhatlegend I apologize for that person who is calling himself a Turk. Ignorant people are everywhere. Most Turks are forgetting the racist Europans (mostly neo-nazi germans) calling all turks smelly sandniggers and hoping all Turks would leave their homeland GERMANY.....So it is hard to understand why a Turk would be a racist against any other nation. Again I am sorry for that person, please do not think that all Turks are this way
necroxeon 8 months ago
@necroxeon No offense taken, every race has it's fair share of ignorant people . But what I can't understand is why the Turkish people want to deny such a blatant and obvious genocide?
MrStrawhatlegend 8 months ago
@MrStrawhatlegend
From one side they don;t want to believe their ancestors were capable of such horrific things. On other side, they are afraid recognising genocide they will have to recognise they stole Armenian lands, history, culture,genetics.Hunred of thousan Armenian orphans were Turkisfied and Islamized and today their descendants think of themselves as "Turks" but in fact look like an average Armenian. Most part of Armenian hisotry lies in Turkey and presented to the world as "Turkish".
BeautySavesWorld 8 months ago
@necroxeon aaferiin sana. avrupalilar cok severler seni. kollarini acip seni bekliyorlardir
nabecaydim 6 months ago
And there is no such a country in the world DENYING Armenian Genocide apart from Turkey and its little friendly hyena, Azerbaijan. I would rather believe the international communtiy than only one country, Turkey, where a spoilt history is taught.
Please see Wikipedia - Armenian Genocide Recognition
Tigranchius 1 year ago 2
@Tigranchius haah, you call Azerbaijan the hyena of turkey LOL.
yet Armenia is Russia's WHORE LOLOLOLOL
Your pimp is RUSSIA and they sold your ass many times lol. oh the hypocricy!!!
OrhanCorporation 1 year ago
@Tigranchius
Please turkish and azeriis are the only ones who deny the armenian,greek,assyrian genocides
it is a known fact
TheLolizzZ 1 year ago
@Tigranchius
And kurdish as well among with greek,armenian and assyrian
TheLolizzZ 1 year ago
@Tigranchius
Only 22 counties recognised it out of about 200 , don't lie. And don't answer me only Turkey DENIED it, of course only Turkey will deny because the concept denial can only be commited by someone who has been ACCUSED. Don't play with the words, about this issue there are much more important and significcant diversities to talk about. But your argument is totally meanless.
vakasim 11 months ago
@vakasim
1st: you are not the one to tell me what to do and what not to do. I perfectly know what to do.
2nd: Those 200 countries never DENIED the fact of the Armenian Genocide (apart from 2). Moreover, it was recognized were it was discussed, may be apart from Israel for (political reasons).
3rd: Please read some official institutional level documents on this matter before bringing me some random thoughts based on turkish education and media, e.g. International Assoc of Genocide Scholars, etc
Tigranchius 11 months ago 2
@Tigranchius
Pal , it is a rhetoric , to tell , do or not do that , don 't get angry. But in your item 2 you definitely said something I already anwered. Denial can only be made by turkey in this issue , others may only "not recognise" , so it is natural for turky to be odd in this situation. USA did not recognized it too btw. Yet , dude it is political everywhere you made it voted in parliements, what do you expect apart from politics ?
vakasim 11 months ago
@Tigranchius
About third party sources you mentioned , there is internet now so alleging that I'm fed with tukish edicational system is not a defitiely true argument. I'M reading something about that. But because we both accept that it was an awful atrocity and tragedy still we fell apart when we name it, it is an conceptual debate not a factual one.
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kharuni 10 months ago
@Tigranchius Give me a break, WIKIPEDIA AS A VIABLE SOURCE??? LOL...
Please see armeniangenocidedebate com/archives FOR A LINK TO THE ACTUAL HISTORICAL ARCHIVES OF TURKEY, RUSSIA, BRITAIN, AMERICA PROVING THE ARMENIAN ALLEGATIONS ARE FALSE, THIS IS NO 'WIKIPEDIA', THIS IS NOT A PRO-TURKISH OR PRO-ARMENIAN SITE.
WHY ARE THE ARMENIAN ARCHIVES CLOSED AND TURKEY'S ARE OPEN, WHY HAS ARMENIA REFUSED TURKISH OFFERS TO INVESTIGATE THE MATTER TOGETHER?
Ekimoglu 9 months ago 7
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@Ekimoglu
1. You don't need to type in capitals. I have normal eyesight.
2. Armenian archives are open. You talk about the idea of establishment of the committee of historians which is another step to question the well established fact of the Armenian Genocide (the fact recognized by 22 world leading countries, and 43 US states, based on their own archives).
3. You bring me Turkish blogs and at the same time call wiki as false :) Please bring me an institution level source, e.g. IAGS, etc...
Tigranchius 9 months ago
@Tigranchius LOL, It's not a blog, it's not Turkish. Armenian archives are not open they are closed google it if you don't know stop talking out of your ass. Go into the photographs section of that site which you think is a blog, and you will see the official Turkish Government's invitation to Armenians to investigate the issue...You can buy as many people and world leaders with your lobbies and money as you want it's not going to change the facts nor will it change what the archives say
Ekimoglu 9 months ago 5
@Ekimoglu BECAUSE TURKISH GOVERNMENT WAS SAYING LETS OPEN THE ARCHIVES AND OUR HISTORICANS WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.....AND THEN IF IT REALLY HAPPENED WE WILL WRITE IN HISTORY AND IT WILL BE OUR PAST HISTORY...........BUT ARMENIAN SIDE SAID WAIT A MINUTE...>>>> TURKISH HAVE TO GIVE OUR HISTORICAL LANDS BACK>>>>>>>>>>IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WRITE IN HISOTRY BOOKS AND THATS IT>>>>>>>
777axperutyun 6 months ago
@Ekimoglu u fukin irrational prik armenia is economically and politically isolated and turkey threatens them about it and americas strategic friend is turkey so america avoids upsetting them. actual historical archives proves that there right only because turkey found one piece of paper on what a diplomat said dey went on about it still even the herald newspaper has all the clippings a los angeles newspaper has a interview wid ataturk where ataturks condemns it so fuk off
loccoptic 1 month ago
The Armenian Genocide is a widely recognized and documented fact as well Holocaust. E.g., International Assosiation of Genocide Scholars; Raphael Lemkin, the inventor of the word 'genocide', based on the Armenian Genocide when creating the word; more than 22 leading countries in the world and 44 USA states, the US foreign ministry, the European Parliament, the majority of the world leading mass media (BBC, CNN, NYT, etc.).
Tigranchius 1 year ago 2
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TURKEY is NATO puppet who murdered Armenians and Kurds.
AntiZionistCIAShill 1 year ago
@AntiZionistCIAShill Ahahah who the fuck are you?! Turks have many benefits in the Nato ;) and kurds did the genocide. They all brag that east Turkey is filled with Kurds for centuries. Now it was the Turks? lol
Sellos23 1 year ago
why can't we all get along? :)
cmuratp 1 year ago
Does anybody, by any chance, know of the book that Fisk mentions at 1:16?
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barevhayerable 1 year ago
Robert your rock!!!
ResTinPeaceTurkey 1 year ago
Admit admit admit,
Lol Admit or we do not take you EU,
Admit or bla bla...
Well , we are ready to admit if a council properly investigates and result says so.
Besides I do not care what happened during Ottoman time.
Zulum75 1 year ago
@Zulum75 No, it did not happen as you think. What books have you read to say that it happened. You must be part of the horde you is a blind boy with a noose around his head.
We dont care what you think.
Get a reality check loser.
AnatolyaTurkiye 1 year ago
Even the world's most famous genocider (Hitler) admitted in a speech that the Armenian Genocide happened, and used the tiny amount of knowledge people had about it to convince people that they could commit the Holocaust and keep it secret from the rest of the world! So tell me, Turkey. Why is it that the Holocaust has been admitted to, but not the Armenian Genocide?
george77772moons 1 year ago
The so called Armenian Genocide is a big LIE! A Bogus!
War atrocities, NO GENOCIDE HERE!
goru426 1 year ago
Armenia should open its archives and then they can talk. Turkish archives are opened to everyone.
until 1915 122.000 Turkish, Kurdish, Tatar and Jewish civilians were killed by armenians who wanted to create a PURE armenian state with the help of Tsarist Russia.
Russia = masters of genocides.
traitorARMENiANyan 1 year ago
@traitorARMENiANyan You are a perfect example of a clueless turk. Armenia does not have archives on genocide because it was not reestablished untill 1918 (After the genocide occured). Instead we have British archives, American archives, American missionary archives, Russian archives, German and Austrian archives (The allies of the turks during world war 1). You are like a broken record, learn facts before you talk.
TheHayasa 1 year ago
@TheHayasa
You are a perfect example of brainwashed armenians who have inferiority complex.
You can read my profile before you call me some name and stop lying. you are really moron. You lost the 1915 war and you still live with the pain of it. you are butthurt.
Now, go cry in front of US congress door and beg. now ! go go go !
traitorARMENiANyan 1 year ago
@traitorARMENiANyan you were crying about armenian archives and i proved you wrong. Now you change the direction of this conversation, i expected that. You are not the first twisted turk i spoke to and i am sure you wont be the last. Now reply to my message about the ARCHIVES, if you got nothing to say about it, admit your stupidity and move on.
TheHayasa 1 year ago
@TheHayasa
lol when did you prove me wrong. Did you even read my profile?
There's the answer. The archives of the armenian terrorist organization which killed thousands of Turks are closed. read my profile and shut up now.. and again go cry in front of US congress door and beg.. now! go go go !
traitorARMENiANyan 1 year ago
@traitorARMENiANyan I wouldnt waste a second reading your 1 sided propaganda. How did i prove you wrong? Simple. You said "why wont Armenia open its archives?" and i told you that Armenia was not reestablished untill 1918 ( after the genocide accured) So how do you expect Armenia open the archives when we dont have any....but we do have the archives of the Americans, British, Russian, German and Austrians. Now you tell me HOW i proved you WRONG. I can see we are going in circles already....
TheHayasa 1 year ago
@TheHayasa
ok ok armenian. You can't read my one-sided propaganda, ok then believe your 2-3-4-5 sided propaganda, ahah, typical butthurt armenian.
you don't read my profile, but you still say you proved me wrong, oh.. good for you butthurt armenian..
now again, go and cry in front of the US congress door, and beg.. now!
go go go !!
traitorARMENiANyan 1 year ago
@traitorARMENiANyan quick look at your page and it is nothing but a joke. No credible sources = no credibility. With your attitude i cant even have a civil arguement with you. Go spread more propaganda. You are sinking your own ship and dont even know it.
TheHayasa 1 year ago
@TheHayasa
The Ataturk picture which is faked by armenians is joke too i guess.
Again now, go and cry in front of US congress door and beg, now!
go go go !
traitorARMENiANyan 1 year ago
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..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago
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..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago
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..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago
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..........On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL ARMENIANS MUST STAND UP FOR THIS CAUSE......WE WANT JUSTICE!!!!!
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago
it's not only the armenian genocide it's Assyrian and greek thanks for the swedish parliamnet for the recognition of the Assyrian genocide
AshurLand 1 year ago
I find it is unfortunate that we never mention Assyrians and Pontic Greeks. It wasn't an Armenian Genocide. It was an OTTOMAN CHRISTIAN Genocide.
But nevertheless, by recognizing the Armenian Genocide, they also recognize the Assyrian and Pontic Greek genocide. The Armenian Genocide opens the doors for your genocide's recognition as well.
JUSTICE for Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians!
Arzive 1 year ago
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The Armenians have revolted against the government in 1915!
More than 60,000 Armenians have joined the French army to support them against the Ottomans!
Many villages and some big town such as Van have been totally ruined and over 6,000 people have been killed by the Armenians only in the city of VAN.
The truth is that the Armenians ware the ones who have committed GENOCIDE!
Little kids have been boiled and served as food to their parents by the Armenians, they never mention that!
goru426 1 year ago
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On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago
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On March 4, 2010, a US congressional panel narrowly voted that the incident was indeed genocide; within minutes the Turkish government issued a statement critical of "this resolution which accuses the Turkish nation of a crime it has not committed THE TURKS ARE COWARDS LOW LIFES AND THE BIGGEST SCUM ON EARTH!!!!!!!! 1915 ALL ARMENIANS THAT PASSED REST IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D0CKTORDEATH 1 year ago
oooooo sick burn...
0zzy07 1 year ago
good job sweden
SovieTiko310 1 year ago
Turklara sikim. Onlarin Amina koyim. Big Time Koim
kaizersyose 1 year ago
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Obviously Germany can't deny that there was a genocide against the Jews because the whole world was involved in WWII but just how many countries can actually point out that the Ottoman empire deliberately tried to wipe out the Armenians?
If the EU wants Turkey to accept the genocide clause in order for it to be accepted by them then they got the best excuse to keep Turkey out.
wabdinur 1 year ago
Önce ABD kendi yaptiklarini oylasin, bu olay tamamen politik, Türkiye'nin orta dogu politikasi birilerine uymuyor, baski olarak Ermeni meselesini kullaniyorlar.
AlperAga 1 year ago
Jobs. Jobs are what Turks need, and EU Countries need cheap labor. Cheap because - their economies are pretty advanced, and thats all what Turks have to offer to EU.
MuzBuff 1 year ago
I don't even know why Turkey wants to join that volatile region that is bankrupt and reverting to the Dark Ages.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur
Europe is a "volatile" region?!!!!LOL..and "bankrupt"?!!!!LOL. Than WHAT is a nation that relies on U.S. and British support, and who's only economic contribution to future EU membership be cheap labor for pants and tee-shirts(turkey)?!!!!LOL. While turkey struggles with 100% inflation, 70% foreign owned stock, and an 87% literacy rate..Europe has the best of engineering, the largest merchant navy, and the strongest currency..LOL. Keep trying to dream a reality..LOL. turks=BARBARIANS.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
-Turkey's inflation rate in: (2008)- 10.1%
(2009)- 6.5%
(cia world factbook 2010)
-The overall literacy rate is 87% and as long as it keeps rising, I dont see any big problem.
-Turkey keeps a lot of Europeans employed because of her appetite for: machinery, chemicals, semi-finished goods, fuels, and transport equipment.
-Turkey benefits from any injection of currency into the nations economy (something the PIGS need badly).
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur
turkey's funding from the IMF expired ni May 2009, and was for a 10 billion dollar loan to keep it's economy from collapsing. Things like these loans are last resports fro nations like turkey, who are quite behind in social and economic progress. They have been receiveing loaned money since 1999 from the IMF, and the interst raet has caused a combines inflation rate of 100% on it's production and loans/funding. Understand?. turkish prices can't compete with foreign imports.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
Because Turkey was spared from the recent financial crisis, Turkey felt it didn't need any more IMF support (2 year deal of $20-$30 billion dollars deal) because "it did not need emergency funds" (New York Times)
Turkey faced her own financial crisis and that pushed the country to be fiscally disciplined. Major credit rating agencies have given a favorable sovereign rating to Turkey because Turkey has weathered external financial shocks and the economy is expected to grow 3.5 percent this year.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur..PART
"Further" funding?!!!!LOL. What did turkey accomplish with it's 10 billion dollar loan?!!!!LOL. turkey's economic contribution is as has been stated..cheap factory labor for pants and shirts.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
meh, as long as people are employed and earn enough money to jump-start domestic consumerism...that's much better environment to have than what's going in some parts of the EU.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wad
Are you in a dream land?!!!!LOL. turkey is a nation of invalids..with low priority on social, educational, individual progress. PERIOD.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@wabdinur..PART 2
The literacy rate of turkey took THIS long to get to 87%, so I don't expect the world to wait for them to catch up..LOL. Europe certainly benefits from uneducated, cheap labor workers like turks, but not at the cost of funding a large nation with a huge population, and an unstable economy..not to mention the crime that comes with such people. AS for foreign stock..it's a clear indicator of turkey's lack of progressive thinking; even as it is a resource rich country.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
You're already biased towards Turkey that's why you don't see the 87% literature rate as a progress rather than a setback. Remember, there are countries with much lesser population that is struggling to increase their literature rate.
Before 2008, yes you could say that Turkey's economy was unstable but compared to what's going on in Europe, no one even talks about Turkey's economy. Hell, even IMF is asking EU members to receive foreign aid (the EU won't allow).
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur..PART 2
What I "see" is nation that is FAR behind the west in terms of education and progress. PERIOD.
turkey survives on two things..it's strategic location in the middle east; and as a result, an opportunity to work for cheap labor, making pants and shirts. 70% foreign investments makes turkey a slave to it's owners, instead of progressing in an independant way. Most of this is simply a backwards attitude.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
Weve seen what happens to countries that solely rely on foreign credit and consume more than what they can afford. Austerity plan is the new keyword in some parts of the EU. Turkey realizes that it cant just have what it wants at the cost of nothing.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wad
Actually, turkey's existance LARGLY is based on just that..foreign credit. While lending, and borrowing in itself is not bad..having no productivity is. turkey needs to restructure it's social aspects, then it's economic will follow. Germany has had it easy for a LONG time, and now their not getting their way. Greece is a scapegoat for other economic issues associated with Europe. While Spain and Ireland are in MUCH worse shape, Greece is the political target.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
I agree that nations should be fiscally responsible. I also agree with you that Greece shouldn't be the only nation that is on the spotlight while other nations that are in much worse economic conditions are intentionally overlooked. You know, there are some European countries that are too big to fail and they will be helped much more quickly than Greece or Iceland (at least that's what I assume the top EU members think). Even so, the EU would step in for Greece just for image sake.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
Look at the debt external of Greece ($552.8 billion in 09 up from $504.6 billion in 08) and Turkey ($274 billion 2009 down from $278.1 billion in 08). Being financially responsible has its own consequences (ex. slow progress in spreading education and health care) just as being financially irresponsible (having all but cant pay for them).
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wad..PART 2
Once again..DO YOU LIVE IN AN ECONOMIC-SOCIAL BUBBLE?!!!!!LOL. GREECE?!!!!LOL. Greece went into serious debt after hosting the Olympics during the worst economy Europe had(and has) seen since WW2..yet Greece is generally between 20th-24th in national wealth per capita; and nations like Spain owe TWICE as much as Greece, Ireland owes CONSIDERABLY more..and Greece still has the worlds largest merchant navy, and is the biggest exporter of olive oil.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
When you're highly in debt, the short-term effect is that you look rich to unsuspecting folks.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wad..PART 3
Also, if Germany deducted what it owes Greece from damages from the war(which were never compensated), Greece would be DEBT FREE. The U.S. is in SERIOUS debt, yet it's at the top as an economic power. The difference between the west and turkey is productivity. Debt for turkey is a result of of a people who unlike a nation like Greece, have HUGE resources, yet don't have the social or educational progress to produce. PERIOD.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
I don't think Germany has the money to give away to Greece even if it wanted to.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur..PART 3..LASTLY
I'm not sure who your reffering to as "pigs", but until turkey can catch up to the civilized world.."pigs" is as good of a definition as "worthless" and "burdensome" when it comes to dealing with the thinking and acting of a large portion of it's citizens and government..LOL. To compare turkey to "Europe", in any way, shape, or form is laughable..LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719
PIGS is referred to the countries with failing economies within the EU (Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain). The likes of Germany and France fear just how much of financial aid should they provide to these nations without bringing themselves down.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur..PART 3
If the so-called "pigs" are a nusance, what would turkey be to the EU?!!!!LOL. AN OVERWHELMING DISASTER. Greece has the WORLDS largest navy, would be debt free if Germany paid the damages it owns Greece after the war(which the Greeks faugh off the nazis for 6 months..unlike France, who was taken in days), Italy produces Armani, Versace, Ferrari, etc. Spain and Ireland are LEAPS AND BOUNDS wealthier than turkey in wealth per capita. turkey isn'T up to European standards. PERIOD
Vasilis719 1 year ago
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wabdinur 1 year ago
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@Vasilis719
-"Greece has the WORLDS largest navy"-What about America, Russia or China?
-"Italy produces Armani, Versace, Ferrari,"-Yeah they do, who said they didnt?
-Spain and Ireland are LEAPS AND BOUNDS wealthier than turkey in wealth per capita.-I didnt say they werent but I did say that theyre in a financial crisis unlike Turkey. Lets see how Germany and France respond to Greeces financial problems first. Even the Germans suggested that Greek islands should be up for sale.
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wabdinur 1 year ago
EU never demanded such a thing from Turkey.
TURKKNCL 1 year ago
Try to get in the mindset of an "anti-Turkey in EU) politician in Brussels :D
Sweden was the latest country to think there was a genocide...it's spreading like wildfire and I suspect they're laughing behind closed doors.
These crocodile tears coming from nations that are behind some of the worst human sufferings makes me suspect if they're actually using the Turkey-Armenian issue for their own political aims.
wabdinur 1 year ago
American politicians only care about re-elections and will work with any strong lobby group. I bet you that they can't even point out where Armenia is on the map :D
wabdinur 1 year ago
The last stage of genocide is denial and shame on Israel of all nations for enabling Turkey in its denial.
irma2237 1 year ago
u r so right))
peytonksummer 1 year ago
What an ignorant man! He says "Eu should welcome muslim state Turkey.", "We wouldn't accept Germany in EU, if they didn't accept Holocoust"
1)Turkey is not a muslim state but a secular one.
2) And what the... Without Germany's participation that was and is now the motor of the EU, a European Union wouldn't exists, at all. And a British man whose country was vetoed to be party of EU twice, says these... Ridiculous.
TURKKNCL 1 year ago
why u think there so eager to acept every 1 why do they want there feet in the door why would they accept greese when they knew they were to poor when so many spoke out on it cause they looked at the numbers if plp like me can see what there doin with just common sense others must see it to when all the monies are gone and the land is snatched up u will remeber plp told u what they had seen from the outside looking in
lastpoet1 1 year ago
Was it the Ottoman empire and not the state of Turkey ,and Turkey was a subjugated state and as such is innocent of the crimes, committed in there former state ,this is a ruse to degenerate Turkey to the level of israel as stated by one of israels officials ,so start admitting things a little more up to date , why doesn't that jewish ass kissing pommie pratt get israel to admit its ethnic cleansing in Palestine, right know ,thats jewish opression ,full of forged lies ,,
youstupidwoman 1 year ago
It is hypocritical to ignore what is currently happing all over the world, and just focusing on Turks. After all, has our congress condemned British for Africans genocide and slavery?
forwhatitworth1 1 year ago
turkey, israel, and the usa are all guilty of genocide, but of course all of them deny it and all of them are allied.
ramberghini 1 year ago
Our alliance with US and Israel has nothing to do with this.
TURKKNCL 1 year ago
LMAO look at Robert Lavell keeping himself from laughing when the Turk is talking shananigans lol .. convincing huh lol you have to be a dumb as donkey to think that. GO ROBERT !!! lol there are not such documents? lol u gots to be kidding me .. what a jack ass
RAVEOLUTION21 1 year ago
Maybe the Russians should fess up to the Ukrainian genocide of 1937.
TheGreatAtilla 1 year ago
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"(The) United Nations has not approved or endorsed a report labeling the Armenian experience as Genocide."
Farhan Haq, U.N. spokesman, October 5th, 2000.
TheGreatAtilla 1 year ago
What about ISRAEL?????and the Genocide in GAZA.....
LSRochon 1 year ago
Turkey must be punished because Turkey CAN be punished. No one is in the position to punish USA.
30DOTCOM 1 year ago
pleas do not mix wore with genocide Russia was in wore and it was Chechen solders how died not the incessant people
kagalo11 1 year ago
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Turkey genocited 1000000 Armenians and 500000 pontic Greeks and that is a FACT!!!
Turks are mongolians, muslims and barbarians and do not belong in the European civilization wich is based on Greco-Roman civilization!!!
Kilikiaci2009 1 year ago
Even if the do admit it they still should not join the EU, it's a savage islamic state. Europe is no place for central asian invaders. Plus, they do actually admit it in private and they are damn proud of their successful genocides of all Christian peoples whose lands they now occupy.
FourSeasonRunner 1 year ago 2
Even if the do admit it they still should not join the EU, it's a savage islamic state. Europe is no place for central asian invaders. Plus, they do actually admit it in private and they are damn proud of their successful genocides of all Christian peoples whose lands they now occupy.
FourSeasonRunner 1 year ago
Who the hell are you to say so? A hungry country with still remaining Soviet poverty, and junks is against Turkey's membership? It won't make any change I suppose.
TURKKNCL 1 year ago
I have never doubted that during and after WWI Turkey committed a genocide on Armenians.
However I am wondering why it took almost 100 years for Turkish NATO ally USA to come to that conclusion? Why does USA condemns Turkish policy NOW for something happened 100 almost 100 years ago?
Is that maybe because Turkey is becoming increasingly INDEPENDENT from the western imperialists in Washington and Brussels?
Igor707 1 year ago
Turkey dares to make business deals with Russia, despite the opposition from Washington and Brussels!
For example Russia will be building the very first nuclear power plant in Turkey. Turkey is making deals with Russia in oil and gas sphere. Turkey wants to join Russian led South Stream gas pipeline project to pump Russian and Central Asian natural gas to Europe across Black sea....
All that is not received well in Washington and therefore this genocide is just a form of attack on Turkey.
Igor707 1 year ago