J.S. Bach - Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor BWV 582

[koos1981]

Shame that he plays it legato



[hbmp88]

6:16 most chilling part of the piece!

[jeftremelo]

PRACHTIG ORGEL !!

[Blestheme]

what piece...

[Xereus92]

Bei 12:27 sieht man, wie Briten Sex haben

[Dirkovic80]

@Xereus92

... wiederkäuer ?

[spikwizflo]

Is there an album with Hans-Andre Stamm's performance? where can i get please

[solidsnakeliquidgas]

My God... 

[YourVeryOwnNocturne]

13:02 dat Neapolitan

[tisho91]

I really love it from the beginning to 1:12 and from 5:35 to 7:05. And I love Passacaglia and Fugue more than Toccata and Fugue!

[MONSTER9451]

"Comments" here should be disabled.Is there ANYTHING left to say?

[bklyncosanostra]

how many people of mine have died to this?

[bklyncosanostra]

JESUS MARY SO INTENSE. FEEL LIKE SNUFFIN" IT BUT AINT CANT NO LONGER HEAR SUCH GLOROIUOSNESS. GOD I FEEL SO CLOSE TO YOU.

[Anarchemitis]

When I hear the words "heavy metal" I think 40 tons of piped tin.

[KatanaMasta88]

@TimesNewAmerican u got it,, juuuust as soon as i finish learnin it,, i suck at sight reading an i got college so it could be awhile,,,, :D

[tfedorchik]

Beautiful song, beautiful organ, and beautiful playing!

[KatanaMasta88]

magnificent,, im learnin this right now, its actually not as hard as it looks,, i will say though my fingerings are wayyyy different from Mr Stamm's,,,,,,

[ouillemouth]

@KatanaMasta88 : would you have sheets WITH fingerings ? If yes, would you be so kind to share them ?

[KatanaMasta88]

@ouillemouth nope, havin ta figure it all out myself,, sorry! :(

[jorobinson]

Wonderful playing. I enjoy seeing the organ and organist in action. The case on this instrument is a visual feast!

[Maliginobserver]

best ever i listen to

organist

organ

and if it is: temperature, the harmonic has another feeling

[jakethecake1000]

You`re right, the organ is tuned a half tone higher than standard pitch, the tuner I own sets A at A=441. I can see 467 HZ is Bb and hence, the piece played in C Sharp minor. I`m sure Bach would have had no problem writing and playing it in that key anyway It sounds cool, making the piece seem more brilliant then if played in C minor.

[1banders]

@jakethecake1000 It's C-minor@organ pitch. No one is born /w his ears tuned to A440. When Bach composed this, church music was played at organ pitch (1/2 step to m3 over A440), based on Renaissance wind pitch. But chamber music was played at "chamber pitch" (~A415) or French chamber pitch (even lower) because the French winds since the late 17th c. could only play at those pitches. They tuned to whatever pitch was expedient. I doubt they fussed about it like some YouTube listeners.

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

ok sry i was very busy the last days , i finally found the time to listen 2 the buxtehude ostinato work

tanks you its nice, i like it

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

sry i was too buys the last time, i listened to the bux ostinato work , its beutiful thanks

now i have a few pieces for you :

/watch?v=2PhX3RwpfpA&feature=c­hannel_video_title (one of bachs lesser known toccatas)

/watch?v=TSDlR6NwzLg&feature=r­elated (a piece that mozart must have seen in vn swietens library)

/watch?v=daW4HGUMkdM&feature=r­elated

/watch?v=bkS3hnrb7Tg&feature=c­hannel_video_title (a great cantata especially the theme of the sinfonia)

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

/watch?v=u4yCypRz0wM&feature=r­elated (here as oboe concerto)

/watch?v=UgKLNscz3As&feature=r­elated (a saw u play the violin , so i think you will like this piece, unfortunatelly there is no perfect version on youtube, heres the best so far i guess ... its still a bit too fast played there is way more epic feeling in it when the tempo and delivery is good)

/watch?v=rmuh35GKQOw&feature=c­hannel_video_title (and another bach cantata the basspart of the strings = wow !)

[1banders]

@Dirkovic80 Ich spiele viola da gamba ("viol"), nicht violine. zB:

watch?list=PLAE7A5D72391868D8&­v=-LboYNAOKhU&feature=player_d­etailpage

watch?feature=player_detailpag­e&v=SFCkmFGYK_8&list=PLAE7A5D7­2391868D8

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

ah kool

well in the stringquartett there is at least one viola ^

i started 8 months ago to play organ (after 10 yrs piano break). im playing allready more than 3/4 of the passacalia and the final of the fugue^

its such an epic feeling to play this piece

especially the very first variation and the last 6

[1banders]

@jakethecake1000 A 17th c. book on playing the viol recommends tuning the strings as high as they will go without breaking. This gives you an idea just how little they cared about tuning to a specific pitch. Only YouTube listeners worry about tuning to a specifc pitch.

[akudal964]

This man made my day

[neaionqwe]

So youtube dont let you upload file with playtime longer than 15 min......

[TheBitterSweetgr]

You uploaded this on the day of my birthday...another masterpiece from Himself The Master

[ekul1021]

I would give everything just to see the Almighty Bach played this himself

[Dirkovic80]

@ekul10

you can picture it in your imagination

i always imagine how the world stood still when bach came back from his travels 2 buxtehudes place , full of new ideas , and filling them in just 1 (this) piece.

how stunned must the people have been who passed the curch in which he played this piece. must have been one of the worlds most awestricking moments ever.

the first variation allready - not from this world

ithink the first variation has 2 be played in pleno , its so impressive

[1banders]

@Dirkovic80 Compare Bach's Passacaglia with Buxtehude's Passacaglia in D minor, BuxWV 161, here on YouTube:

/watch?v=w2GoH4-Gm44

[1banders]

@Dirkovic80 Another example of a Buxtehude ostinato work, here on YouTube:

watch?v=SFCkmFGYK_8&list=PLAE7­A5D72391868D8&index=3&feature=­plpp_video

[BaroqueTheorist]

12:30 is how the british have sex

[TheBitterSweetgr]

@BaroqueTheorist Hahahaahahaaahahahaha...is that so?I say that because I'm a greek guy....

[piano1996No1]

@BaroqueTheorist

Excuse me sir, but, I am British and we do not have sexual intercourse like this. I find the comment vulgar and rude.

[jmac4815]

@piano1996No1 Well, why the hell wouldn't you?

[TheLastMyztery]

@BaroqueTheorist You do know the performer is to the nationality of German. If I were you I would remove your comment before some people find it abusive.

[hbmp88]

@BaroqueTheorist XD best comment ever

[sgandro]

I wish I were there, alone in the church!

I would have shut him in! And listen it a second time!

[sgandro]

Great performance! If Richter's had not been my "first" I would have liked this most.

[AML2000]

Standards for tuning in the 18th century didn't exist, and varied wildly from place to place. As a general rule, string and woodwind instruments were lower than modern tuning, and organs higher. Bach wrote the organ parts in his Leipzig cantatas in a completely different key to the orchestra parts for this reason.

Consensus today -- A=440 modern instruments

A=415 baroque orchestral instruments and harpsichords.

A=460-470 baroque organs

[1banders]

@AML2000 Standards DID exist. In his Weimar church music (1707-1717), Bach followed the long established standard of tuning strings to organ pitch (A465), but winds that could only play at A415 had to have their parts transposed up a whole step. Years later in his Leipzig church music (1723-1750), he followed the more recent standard (introduced there by his predecessor J. Kuhnau) of tuning to A415 and transposing the organ part down a whole step.

[MegaBeerFart]

I have perfect pitch and I can hear the half step interval. I think it makes an already badass piece even more badass though.

[eddiekern]

Awesome performance

[AlinJV]

I have not really original manuscript of the Passacaglia and Fugue in net C Moll and Bach wrote it in C Minor video only one transposed one semitone above that is diatonic to C minor to C # minor

[chopint]

sehr sehr schöne Musik, wunderschön

[rickallen77]

If you observe the organist's foot-pedal activity, you will see that he is playing in the key of C minor, the key in which the piece was composed. As mentioned above, the organ itself is not tuned to A-440.

[lllmozartlll]

Une de mes versions préférées, à mon avis la plus belle pièce d'orgue jamais écrite. Enregistrement sensationnel, un portrait d'un instrument magnifique.

[lucascheddar]

This piece is being played in C sharp minor, the title is incorrect.

[counterpoint85]

@lucascheddar This organ has a special modified mean-tone temperament where A1= 466.8 Hz. It is not a standard A = 440 tuning.

[lucascheddar]

@counterpoint85

You´re right, I´ve failed to express myself.

I should have said "This organ is tuned a half-step higher", even though my ears failed to perceive that it´s tuned a "half-step plus 0,64Hz" higher than the standard.

[1banders]

@counterpoint85 Keyboard temperament has absolutely nothing to do with the pitch to which the instrument is tuned. The pitch of Baroque organs was usually based on the tuning of Renaissance winds. Hence, Baroque organs are usually tuned a 1/2 step to a minor 3rd above A440. Some of the organs built in Bach's time were tuned to A415 (chamber ptich), such at the organ at St. Sophia's Church Dresden where W.F. Bach was organist and J.S. Bach himself was often invited to give recitals.

[polkusin]

@counterpoint85 any more info on the temperament? even equal temperament is after all a "modified mean-tone temperament" (1/11 comma) ;)

[robertgift]

@counterpoint85 Thank you

Why 466.8?

Why not 450, or 466.16 which is A# in A440 ?

Is there a tierce in the Hauptwerke mixture? Makes the mixture sound a little harsh.

Speeds up during the triplets.

Love the way he plays the countersubject - NOT connecting the repeated notes. Oops, he connects them in the pedal a few times. Why not show that pedals when they are busy?

[Egestus18]

@lucascheddar just look at his playing, it is in C minor

the organ is tuned higher than usual, so it sounds like c sharp



[Francis1930]

@lucascheddar pick, pick, pick if you haven't got anything pleasant to say about this beautiful piece of music I suggest you SHUT YOUR MOUTH.

[1banders]

@lucascheddar Get the idea out of your head that peoople are born with their ears tuned to A440, that A440 is a law of nature, or that everyone everywhere has tuned to A440 since the beginning of time. A440 was not adopted as an international std. until the 1950s, and then only after decades of lobbying by American wind instrument manufacturers. Historically, the choice of pitch has gone up or down to accommodate changes in design of wind instruments.

[KatanaMasta88]

@lucascheddar 1. look at the score, u will see 3 flats,, 2. watch his fingers,,

[kypsterx55]

Listen real closely and prepare to be awe-struck, for it nothing less than the voice of God

[racker9999]

Bach's unqualified adoration of the Creator compelled him to dedicate his works to the "greater glory of God". In return for this most humble gratitude and reverence, the Creator permitted Bach to apprehend the moment when he gave birth to the universe. The Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor is Bach's story to us of what he saw, felt, and experienced.  It is the greatest piece of music ever written in being the clearest, most truthful expression of Man's love and gratitude for our Maker.

[leafar96]

i love when the passacaglia starts up again

[Cormcolash]

This video is great for youtube warrior comments.

The question is though, is it heavy metal?

[Kioooi]

Really sounds like BuxWV 161 in places

[bachinblack94]

@Kioooi Yeah, Bach was deeply influenced by Buxethude... And the starting theme of passacaglia is taken from a Buxethude mass, i can't remember what...

[JWPhoto]

Well, that is just about as unbelievably beautiful as it gets here on earth.

[1banders]

@JumpinFlackJash Yawn....

[1banders]

@JumpinFlackJash Why would anyone have to create a work of art to be qualified to disagree or dispute with you? I don't see how my age or creative output is relevant. As a YouTube user, I have the right to reply to your comments, but you have no obligation to respond.

[1banders]

@JumpinFlackJash What's the point of your question? Are you now claiming Bach is to heavy metal as a candle is to an electric light bulb? Oil lamps & gas lights superceded candles long before the electric light bulb, which superceded them only when electric power became widely distributed. Heavy metal never has, and never will, supercede Bach, and the inventor of the candle didn't invent the electric light bulb any more than Bach founded heavy metal. You get over yourself.

[1banders]

Compare with Buxtehude's Passacaglia in D minor, BuxWV 161 (Find it on YouTube).

[1banders]

@JumpinFlackJash As I said, your claim merely flatters Heavy Metal. Saying Heavy Metal was influenced by Bach is one thing. Claiming he founded it is quite another. One cannot be the founder of something that didn't even exist for hundreds of years after one's death.

Compare with Buxtehude's Passacaglia in D minor, BuxWV 161 (Find it on YouTube).

[1banders]

@JumpinFlackJash You flatter Heavy Metal.

[gamera9999]

My all time favorite Bach piece also. Utterly and completely existential -- smack dap in the middle of the Enlightenment. Uncanny.

[1banders]

@gamera9999 How is it utterly and completely existential? As it was probably composed around 1713, when Bach was organist at the ducal court in Weimar, it would seem to be near the beginning, rather than the middle, of the Age of Enlightenment, and in the Late Baroque. How "enlightened" do you think were Bach's noble employers, e.g., the Dukes of Weimar and the Prince of Anhalt-Coethen?

[leonsmello]

I wonder how a human could create such a music like that. The only answer is that Bach was not a human being.

[thegoddescomposer]

J.s Bach is the last person who was sended to Earth by God

[kyotokid4]

...Bach is Truth.

[shoeprich2012]

Bach was an absolute master

[iguarni]

@shoeprich2012 Not enough. He has been a mankind's genius!

[Staunomat]

Man kann über Schubert sagen, was man will, aber in puncto Liedermacherkunst reichen ihm Mozart und Bach niemals das Wasser. Das ist dann doch etwas ganz anderes als Opern. Schubert konnte ein Gedicht in seiner Essenz begreifen und die absolut perfekte Musik dazu komponieren.

Mir ist es herzlich egal, was mir Leute attestieren oder nicht. Wenn sich jemand dazu berufen fühlt, mich einen ahnungslosen Dummschwätzer zu nennen, dann ist das sein gutes Recht.

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

hm ich glaub du hast noch keine taste auf dem klavier gedrückt, geschweige denn ein anderes intsrument angefasst. deswegen redest du auch von zwei tonarten^

und zu wenig bach und mozart gehört um dir ein wirkliches urteil leisten zu können

iwie sind sehr viele von euch österreichern reichlich anmaßend was die musik betrifft, ist mir schon seit längerem aufgefallen ...

wenn für dich "essenz" = "redundanz" ist dann liegst du richtig damit ^

[Staunomat]

@Dirkovic80

Erstaunlich, dass du plötzlich persönlich wirst, bloß weil ich nicht deiner Meinung bin und ein anderes subjektives Musikgespür habe als du.

1. spiele ich mehr als ein Instrument

2. bin ich kein Österreicher

3. bist du hier derjenige, der mit anmaßenden Phrasen um sich wirft.

Ich dachte zunächst, das hier könnte sich zu einer interessanten Diskussion entwickeln. Leider hast du das ganze durch reichlich Arroganz ruiniert. Sehr schade. Wünsche einen schönen Abend.

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

Arroganz kam nur von dir ...

vllt sollte ich dich mal erinnern was du in deinem ersten kommentar geschrieben hast und was du geschrieben hast nachdem du begonnen hast dich über schubert zu "ergehen" .

mit phrasen um sich geworfen hast nur du ...

ich denke einfach, dass es anmaßend ist zu schreiben dass Mozart und Bach "die Essenz" von literarischen Texten nicht begreifen konnten.

Und irgendwas von "neuen" Tonarten ins Imprommptu zu pahntasieren

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

btw ich habe mir wenigstens das musikstück was du mir als beispiel geschickt hast auch angehört (auch wenn ichs schon kannte) und bin darauf eingegangen

während du hier keine diskussion/dialog geführt hast (denn da geht man auf die meinungen anderer ein) sondern einen selbstherrlichen monolog ... irgendwann platzt halt jedem der kragen bei so viel gefasel

[Staunomat]

As for the claim that he didn't managa to do one thing that M or B hadn't accomplished before him: Show me just one Lied Mozart or Bach composed that captured the beauty of a poem and all the emotions it can carry as beautifully als Schubert's did. It might take a while ;)

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

ich seh grad dass du östrreicher bist , seh keinen sinn weiter auf englisch zu schreiben dann

es ist ja jedem selber überlassen wen er letztlich besser findet, aber dass schubert mit mehr emotionen und "dichterischer" geschrieben hat als bach und mozart wird dir wohl kaum einer der ahnung hat attestieren.

das was du als 2 "tonarten bezeichnest" ist kontrapunktik und chromatik und mozart hat genau das was da thema ausmacht schon tausendmal vorher gemacht

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

mozart und vor allem bach wärs halt so irgendwann zu langweilig geworden , das thema immer wieder in andere tonarten zu transponieren

thema is zwar schön nix gegen schubert ich schätze seine musik

aber an mozart und bach kommt er niemals ran ud das wusste er selbst ganz genau ^

(deswegen hab ich auch vorhin erwähnt was schubert über mozart sagte)

[Dirkovic80]

@Dirkovic80

würdest du ein instrument, egal welches, auf einem gewissen level spielen, wärst du schon mehrmals über stücke gestolpert die dem Tongang von dem Imrpontu sehr ähnlich sind. Ich wollte nicht persönlich werden aber ein paar spitzen konnte ich mir einfach nicht verkneifen nach deinen selbstherrlichen aussagen.

welcher nation bist du denn zugehörig wenn nicht österreich?

[61mrmusicman]

Mozart first heard the music of J. S. Bach in 1789., when he invited to stay and hear the choir to perform the motet Singet dem Herrn." When they were done, Mozart asked to see the music, saying "this is music from which one could learn." He spent the rest of the afternoon looking at the parts (there being no unified score), putting them together in his mind. From then on Mozart was a fan of J.S. Bach, and you can see his influence in Mozart's later symphonies and the Requiem.

[1banders]

@61mrmusicman No. Before 1789 Mozart was already well acquainted with WTC and AofF, had arranged several of the fugues for strings and been inspired to compose fugues of his own. He had not yet heard Bach's vocal music simply because it was not well known outside Leipzig & had never been published. But even before Bach's death, his keyboard music had already been circulating via hand copies in Germany, Austria, France, Italy and England ---- decades before it was ever issued in print.

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

mozart did at least see and hear 1 bach motette in the thomas church (but he saw more partitures of his cantatas and mottets then just 1)

"Kaum, daß der Chor einige Takte gesungen hatte, so rief Mozart: ›Was ist das?‹ Und man sah ihm an, daß seine ganze Seele in Bewegung geriet.

Da der Gesang zu Ende war, rief Mozart voll Freude. ›Das griff tief ein, da gibts zu lernen.‹'

Man sagte ihm, da die Schule die vollständige Sammlung der Motetten ihres ehemaligen Kantors besitze .

[1banders]

@Dirkovic80 I never said this didn't happen.

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

.und als eine Art Reliquien aufbewahre.

›O geben Sie her! rief Mozart.‹

Man hatte aber keine Partitur der Gesänge; Mozart ließ sich also die ausgeschriebenen Stimmen geben, und nun war es eine Freude mit anzusehen, wie er die Stimmen um sich herum, in beide Hände, auf die Knie, auf die nächsten Stühle verteilte, und alles Andere vergessend, nicht eher aufstand, bis er alles, was von Bach da war, durchgegangen hatte. (...) "

[1banders]

@Dirkovic80 I am already well acquainted with this story. What is your point?

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

ah , i didnt read you comment good enough , my mistake ^

i thought u wanted 2 say that mozart only knew bachs piano works

are u able 2 read german btw ?

[1banders]

@Dirkovic80 61mrmusicman said "Mozart first heard the music of J. S. Bach in 1789."

However, in a letter to his father, dated April 1782, Mozart reports that every Sunday at noon he goes to Baron van Swieten's house in Vienna "and there nothing is played but Haendl and Bach." Ich lese Deutsch.

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

ah ok i remember the message of him , and i remember that i wanted 2 answer the same as you some months ago ^

but i was too lazy at that moment and forgot it

... talking about van swieten: he was the freemason who was responsible that mozart was thrown into a massgrave like a homeless dog and mb he was also responsible for mozarts death by poisoning too . this fat freemason/zionist piece of ish

[Dirkovic80]

@1banders

i was aware of BuxWV 161 but not the second one , i will check it tomorrow , thanks

[robotchickenavm]

Muy bueno, delightful, encantador!

[Whitefang8128]

Just fapped to this, felt good.

[Pretendkid]

thrilling.

[Cormcolash]

This almost makes me wonder, who is better, Bach or Mozart?

[Pretendkid]

@Cormcolash uh, comparing Bach and Mozart = comparing Allah and God. it doesn't make sense.

[montekriston]

@Cormcolash

I think Bach equal to God

the others equal to prophets

[Frost69]

I like the Mozart very much but.. I'd say Bach. I know funny anecdote 'bout Mozart's music played by Gould but its too little space in here :)

[Dirkovic80]

@Frost69

who is glenn gould compared to mozart or bach ?

a little worm not more

so no1 should care what this messed up gould said

here one example: "mozart died to late"

id answer fuck glenn gould who is this wannabe ?

there are millions who can tract a piano well , but there are only a few of mozarts or bachs level

gould was definitely not beyond em , he just enjoyed his own farts too much ...

[1984folker]

@Dirkovic80 Glen Gould is a worm? lol! Millons in same level in gould lool!!!!!

Just show me ONE piano player who can play just like gould, you can't!!!

Gould is a pure genius my friend ;)

[Dirkovic80]

@1984folker

glenn gould was a messed up tonedeaf retard

he played like a mechanicus

and clebrated his own ass, as if he were bach

for example richter played good i thin better than gould

gould was only able to bach accurately

mozart he destroyed by playing , because he had no passion

he only sung with his ugly voice like a retarded kid on his ugly little childchair haha

if gould have played against a mozart or bach himself, he would have fled

just as merchand fled from bach

[Dirkovic80]

@1984folker

its one thing to create these pieces this messed up gould played but another thing to just reproduce them

i didnt say gould played bad , but he was overrated and goddamn messed up as hell

willhelm kempf was for example a way better piano player than gould

there are brendl and gulda for example ... there are many people who play perfect piano

but not even 1 was as messed up as this guy

[1984folker]

@Dirkovic80

IT was not invented the piano in the age of bach . Mechanics was not a hammer. Bach was not able to play with volume because the klavichord was not capable of this. then for what resemble bach with gould?

I do not argue with you, because time wasting. Who touched the classical music it knows that Gould was a genius. in my opinion: Bach and Mozart two of the largest men of the music history, all other composers are dwarfed by them, not only gould

[Dirkovic80]

@1984folke

i know that piano wasnt invented at bachs time

where did i say so ?

but you can give emotion into your interpretation by vary the speed on some special points

thats what for example richter did when he played bach

i said gould ruined mozarts piano works by playing them totally ugly ... for example the A major sonata

he also ruined invention 13 of bach by totally overdozing speeds

gould was a showman no musican

and btw i think händel and beethoven can at least touch bach and mozart

[Staunomat]

@Dirkovic80

Regarding the last thing you said: I think that Mozart was the greatest and purest genius of music that ever lived. Music was not his 2nd, but his 1st nature, his mother tongue. He thought music, he understood music. That said, I don't think he is ahead of Bach or Beethoven in terms of composing. All three of them are on the same level in my book. The most underrated composer has to be Schubert. He is not far away from those three titans.

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

i agree with you on mozart, but bach was with him both are untouchable

beethoven was also great but he wasnt as "complete" as mozart or bach , they compsed for so many different instruments , were able to get the best out of the instruments

the guy who comes closest to bachs and mozarts composition skill is haendel not beethoven

here one example of underrated haendel piece:

/watch?v=TSDlR6NwzLg (you might know it as mozart fan ^)

--> Top 3 : Mozart, Bach and Haendel

[Staunomat]

@Dirkovic80

We've come to a point were nobody is right or wrong. To me, Beethoven is right up there at the very top of the world. The only "proof" I need are the Waldsteinsonate and his symphonies. Transcendent.

I'm not as much a fan of Mozart's than an awestruck admirer. After he had perfectet the music of the classical era, Beethoven ultimately overcame it, paving the way towards a new era.

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

well i wanted to note just the same in my last comment but there was no space left.

Beethoven of course was huge fpr piano soli and orchestra works

but mozart and bach were good vor every genre (they wrote for every single one masterpieces , but not beethoven)

and btw beethoven learned alot of mozarts piano pieces (which or somehow underrated too)

listen to Sonata No 8 in A minor, K. 310 - Allegro maestoso and compare it to moonlights last movement

or Fantasia C Minor KV396

[Staunomat]

@Dirkovic80

Of course he was inspired, being an true admirer when he first came to Vienna. The thing he brings to the table that Mozart didn't have is raw, unfiltered emotion, true human emotion in its worst and best manifestations. Then again, we could just go on and on about this and would never reach a conclusion. I am perfectly happy with listening to all of them equally.

[Staunomat]

@Dirkovic80

I wanted to say something of my beloved Schubert, too: He managed to do something absolutely unique. He found a way to find the missing link betweend minor and major, and sometimes it seems almost impossible to really say what his pieces are. It's uncanny how he manages to pack so many different emotions into one key.

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

well i think not only schubert did this ^

mozart switched also alot between minor and major in one piece.

schubert also considered mozart as the best along with bach as far is im concerned ^

[Staunomat]

@Dirkovic80

The key word here is "switching". Schubert didn't switch, he stayed in one key and yet made it sound like two. That's the marvellous thing about it.

And frankly, I don't mind Schuberts oppinion, I've got my own ;)

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

lol mb you send one example , i dont think that schubert invented a "new key"

mb you just read it somewhere and overtook it ^... schubert didnt manage thing that mozart or bach didnt manage before him allready

[Staunomat]

@Dirkovic80

I don't have to "overtake" something, I just listen to stuff. Take a look at his impromptus and tell me after wards that you think they sound like they were strictly major or minor. watch?v=lZm3JbzFzrQ

[1banders]

@Staunomat That existed in music centuries before Schubert, in modal music. There's no missing link.

[Dirkovic80]

@Staunomat

and btw mozart was allready walking on the path beethoven joined after and completed it

you can hear so many other examples where mozart definitely had deep infuence on beethoven

another1: Mozarts Prague synphony 1.st movement and Beethovens tempest sonata 3rd movement

(Beethoven uses almost exactly the same theme mozart introduces in the middle of the first movement, if you know tempest's last movement you know that ots theme is weird and so beatuyfull)

[JaimeSouviens]

Sublime, as to be reverential to God; and mundane, with every shade of human feeling.

[254aramis]

wonderful .... wonderful ..... no other words ...... ostinating prayer ...

[Sword1479]

This is probably the only one out there that's together!

[syncrow76]

@Sword1479 I asked counterpoint85 to re-upload after reading on Wikipedia that YouTube is now allowing up to 15 minutes videos. Counterpoint85 was so kind to upload it in one part HD! I love this piece!

[Bibliomaniac15]

This comment has been made, but I'll repeat again:

"Neapolitan at 13:02: JIZZ"

[JaimeSouviens]

@Bibliomaniac15 You're just a disgusting person, and you should be barred from listening to Bach. How self involved of you to think that your crap needs to be posted here. At least you should be barred from posting in facebook.

[1banders]

@Bibliomaniac15 The Neopolitan was in use before Bach was born. Purcell and his comtemporaries used it.

[HerrWarja]

I agree with syncrow76. Thanks for an upload without interruption!

[syncrow76]

thanks counterpoint for uploading the full video (Passacaglia and Fugue) without interruption!!! I am enjoying it so much. It is a shame that the DVD was never released in Europe...