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  • The most bogus call in NBA History. The 1994 Chicago Bulls were going to win four straight titles but got robbed by Hue Hollins. That foul happens in today's NBA but in the 80's and 90's BULLSHIT!!!

  • That's most likely a foul in today's NBA, but in 1994??? NO WAY

  • still have the starks jersey i wore to this game.....

  • roster, where they traded Horace Grant and left a big hole in the power forward position/defensive/rebounding areas- in turn thisgave way to the signing of Dennis Rodman, I believe. And as from the bug picture, I am a firm believer that the Bulls/Jordan significantly shaped the evolving of the league, and they drove a lot of stars and their teams to elevate their game, in terms of toughness, spirit, and finess.

  • Also, officials and their reputations along with the integrity of the league was to be exposed afterward and for years to come. He later admitted this wrondoing but then changed back later so he wouldn't look like a cheater. PLus the NBA's referees has been under so much fire from the mid 90s thru the mid-00s, all anyone has to do is punch in Tim Donaghy, Jake O'donnell, Joe Crawford, Dickless Bevitta, Bob Delaney, and you'll see... And the defeat also gave way to yet more changes in the teams

  • and they need to pay him his due salary (when he eventually returned). It exposed the personality/character and futility of the New York Knicks as contenders, but not champions. They went three straight seven game rounds and came up short in the end- they had home court all throughout the playoff rounds. Ewing and a couple other Knicks admitted they BARELY beat the Bulls IN SEVEN and even then it took a little bit of luck- this on top of no Michael Jordan AND they had home court, say a lot.

  • @Exile101882

    To be fair the Bulls barely escaped with a Game 3 victory, the Bulls lose Game 3 and you're looking at an entirely different series.

  • @LChris6 True but irrelevant, game three came to a final shot, not a final call- there's a dfference

  • I, as a die hard Bulls fan and Chicago native, am personally thankful and grateful that the Bulls did get beat in seven by the Knicks for different reasons. First, none of us can be too sure that the Bulls would have beat the Rockets in the finals on the road, even the Pacers would have pushed Chicago near elimination. It also kept CHicago's record flawless in the finals, for the sake of legacy. THe Jerrys then realized after game 7 and midseason next year that they can't do it without Mike

  • fuck u HUGH HOLLINS!

  • Phantom foul!!! Fuck the Knicks

  • one of the worst foul calls of all time.... the Knicks were bailed out by Hugh Hollins. Pippen clearly jumps to the left of Davis and even after the video is paused it's hard to tell if there's ANY contact..... and this is after the ball is almost to the rim. awful call.

  • This "foul" made the Knicks to the finals, but they were too confident against the Rockets and they lost.... Then this group with Riley never came back to the Finals, during this time the Bulls with Jordan come back made 3 new championships...

  • Pippen proved in that serie (with game 3 and 5), that he wasn't as good as Jordan in Leadership to get his teammates better... Even it wasn't enough to call this foul because Pippen didn't touch David before the shot, i don't think the Bulls would have won the Rockets in final.....

  • @TheDignam Pippen was good becuz they both need it each other becuz the next year the bulls lost wit jordan comin back from baseball wearing 45 and they lost in 2nd round to orlando that year then they won it the next year.

  • @Bellcasus In 1995 The Bulls lost Grant, Pippen was close to be traded to Seattle, and they have to face an elimination from NY after 3 years of total NBA domination. The comeback of Jordan helped them but he was too short, he can't come back at 100% after 2 years without practice... He worked all the summer and get a new very high level of physical, technical, leadership, all the team was in the same way... Results : 3 new NBA Championships

  • @TheDignam True Indeed But The 95 Bulls Went 47-35 And They Only Lost 4-2 To Orlando That Year So The Only Concern Was Jordan Didn't Have His Legs Under Him Yet And The Team Was Been Recontructed Wit The Lost Who Of Grant Who a key Player To There Front Court And He Certainly Help Out The magic That Year But The Bulls Still Had a Good Team, And Settle Frustration had Nothin To Do Wit It. Give Pippen His Credit Becuz He Was Ballin That Year 94 And Prove They Both Need it Each Other After Year 95.

  • @Bellcasus In 1994 Phil Jackson told to all the group that they could do a 4-Peat without Michael, with Scottie The New Leader. But they failed... That's why during the start of the 1995 season they were struggled because they understood that they couldn't win without Michael, Pippen was suspended after ejected a chair in a game, he was close to be traded and the Bulls were 7th in Eastern Conference.. But when MJ came back, all the group believed again in a new title and they finished 5th.

  • @TheDignam Let Me Be Brief So I Can Skool u Real Quick. Jordan Was. And Is Better Than Pippen. No Question About It. Now First n Foremost Doug Collins built This Team. Jordan Was Drafted In 84. Jordan Without Pippen For 3 Years, Didnt Win No Championship By Himself. In 87 Pippen Was Draft. Boston Once n Pistons Beat Them The last Three years Wit Phil The 89-90 Season Until 90-91 Season When They Finally Won. Jordan Needed Him As Much Pippen Needed Him. That 94 Bulls Team Only Had One Superstar..

  • @TheDignam ...So Wit One Superstar On Your Team Is Not Gonna Win So Name Me One Team That Won a Championship? Every Team That Has Won had a Least 2 or More Superstars players On There Team Period.

  • @Bellcasus : I agree after 98 Duncan & Robinson, Shaq & Kobe, Duncan & Ginobili, All the Pistons, Wade & Shaq, KG Pierce Allen, Kobe & Gasol, Nowsitzki Marion Kidd Terry...

  • @TheDignam. The Bulls failed to win a title without Michael in 1994, yes - but you have to take into account how close they were - without Hugh Hollins, the Bulls may have won the championship that year. Also, the reason they struggled in 1995 was not because they "understood they couldn't win without Michael." They played .500 ball that year because they lost Horace Grant and the interior defense and rebounding that left with him.

  • @ballerb2000 Also - when MJ retired in 1993, the media thought the Bulls wouldn't even make the playoffs. They no clue that Scottie Pippen was that good - good enough, or great enough I should say, to lead the Bulls to 55 wins (only 2 less than the year before WITH Jordan). In that sense, the year was a remarkable success and noted by Phil Jackson and Jerry Reinsdorf to be their favorite year, even more than that championship years. MJ gets too much credit - Scottie deserves more credit.

  • @ballerb2000 Your a dickweed

  • @TheDignam Had he not made the foul you wouldn't be thinking that.

  • Dont need to sell me on it. Biggest Pippen fan there is.

  • Not a foul, not even close

  • sorry i m not american and i didn´t understand the meaning of that poster at 4:34

    could anyone explain it to me?

  • @pat1994ish, In Game 3 of this series, the Knicks and Bulls were tied at 102 with 1.8 seconds left in the game. Phil Jackson had deisgned the play for Toni Kukoc to take the last shot to win the game and Pippen was upset by this because he had led the 1993-94 bulls team in so many categories and was playing well for them. He felt that he was robbed of having an opportunity to take the last shot to try to win the game for the Bulls. That was why Pippen asked out of the game.

  • @Emanuelknicks Phil Jackson was right because Kukoc made the shot, and Pippen was struggling this night.. Today Pippen regreted this act, he said when he retired that he had only 2 regrets in his career, this act and when the Blazers had 15 points led against LA in game 7...

  • @Emanuelknicks Yup that proves that Pippen was kind of selfish and jealous of MJ by his comments about LBJ being better than MJ. He was more worried about being a hero than winning a playoff game.

  • Who cares the knicks were not that great anyway, they lost to the Bulls how many times in the playoffs? The knicks were boring to the Bulls, so the Bulls would let them in the series.

  • @WildL23 wow really. the bulls were bored. the knicks were not great. u r an idiot. there is no way scottie pippen or any of the bulls would let the knicks win. an the knicks were a great team.

  • @arturrad96 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You guys are hilarious. Nice joke. Just show me the rings. And I'm not talking about no ancient rings from the end of the 60s. Just show me the rings and then you can talk to me. LOL

  • @WildL23 just cuz they didnt win a championship doesnt mean they sucked. look at all the great teams that didnt win a chapionship but are still great.

  • it took them 7 games to beat the team without their star player

  • Poor Scottie. After this everyone says he couldn't win a championship without Jordan.

    Must be frustrating.

  • @turboa At least Pippen had a winning seasons without Jordan. Jordan never even had a winning season without Pippen, 1985,86,87, 2002 & 2003 all losing seasons. MJ can't even get to .500 without Pippen, much less a championship.

  • in todays nba?

  • IF IS WAS THE 92 OR 93 KNICKS, 94 KNICKS THEY'RE IS THE CHAMPS.

  • he fouled him.

  • No foul, Pippen was robbed

  • a clear case of "compensation"....in 1993 Pippen made at least a foul on Charles "soft" Smith, this one is ridiculous....

  • A Shame that they considered a fault this action, the NBA wanted a new Champion at this time.

  • stephen A. brought me here too

  • This guy Davis should go back to acting school, Cause no one here loves him!

  • Davis acted like he got shot after that foul. Disgraceful.

  • that wasnt a foul that day. the day after. the week before and a 100 years from now.

    shit call...they would've lost that series in 6

  • no foul

  • From a long time DIE HARD CHICAGO BULLS FAN and a my favourite player is PIPPEN, the fact is they had 2.1 left and if Jordan were playing he would have made the shot.

    The Bulls were still a good team and Pippen won MVP this year, but without Jordans clutch they could not go to the finals.

    Who the hell is Smith??

  • @Strat0Blues If Pippen even had a player like Mourning or a bosh, they would have won that year. they didnt need Jordan. they won 55 games without him. Soon as you fill another hole like that at SG or Centre, with a player as good as Pippen,OR Jordan, you would get to the finals.

  • Jordan and the Bulls never got calls in their favor??? Give me a Break!!!! 

  • hugh hollins was a closet knicks fans.. doesnt matter knicks could never beat the bulls with jordan

  • That was the biggest homer call i have ever seen in my life, some1 must of payed Hollins to do that crap

  • I saw that game. Davis sold that foul. Which goes to show how bad a ref Hollins was. Hollins made an assumption based on how Davis landed. It's not a foul if you make contact with the hand with the ball. Rule 12-Fouls and Penalties: Personal Fouls-5e. Look it up.

  • Thumbs up if Stephen A. Smith brought u here!!!

  • Terrible call.

  • Stephen A is wrong, that foul that called correctly

  • Stephen Smith from ESPN brought me here.

  • @JayZTupacNas As soon as he said that i typed this in and went to this video

  • bulls were robbed and the nba is fixed the nba knows the knicks were popping at this time and the bulls dont have as much appeal and fan fair without MJ playing so they robbed them so the knicks can go its all about the money at the end

  • also lol at phil jackson trippin out so hard

  • sadly the correct call wasnt made and the bulls didnt go to the finals because then maybe it would be common knowledge that the jordan wasnt this necessity to the bulls and uneducated lebron haters would realize that when lebron left his teams record went the best in the league to the 2nd worst and when jordan left his team should have had a chance to repeat

  • @yograndma821 - If The Cavs had the Bulls roster, including Pippen, Kukoc, etc. when Lebron left, they wouldn't have collapsed in such fashion. Smarten up and stop saying "hater"... it makes you sound stupid.

  • NBA: fixed since 1994

  • @JTEchicago Your wrong. The NBA was rigged since the 1985 NBA draft

  • Hollins blew the whistle because of SPECULATION. He blew the whistle because Davis fell back and Pippen never ran into him...That was the stupidest call in the history of sports.

  • @clayg80

    Not really, there's even worse calls nowadays.

  • This isn't a foul in the 90's. This is a foul that would only happen in today's NBA.

  • When Phil got upset, I thought the basketball gods would blow the Garden up lol.

  • i remember watching this live...man this may have been the worst call in playoff history

  • Why the hell does this have so many thumbs up? Just because he called the foul doesn't mean the video should get so many thumbs down, It's a great video considering he uploaded the whole ending of the game...c'mon dumbass youtubers.

  • Crowd note: 2:55 looks an awful lot like a Roy Scheider sighting.

  • @jackdostal Jaws!!! It sure does look like him

  • what kind of idiot thinks that it was a good call, oh yea a knicks fan

  • Never touched him by far the worst call in NBA history.

  • No foul. Pippen never touched him. A good side view shows that. These views are worthless.

  • The rule states that if a shooter is still airborne, any negligible contact is a foul. But this contact was NOT negligible for 1. For 2, it's ticky tack because the contact didn't stop Davis from getting off the shot. This was some suspect ass shit.

  • There was no foul, fukin idiot.

  • the top rated guy should be a referree of the nba

  • the guy flopped in that play lol, and refs dont make calls like that during decisive games in playoffs..o well Knicks had no titles during the Jordan-Pippen era soooo LOL!!

  • @4:35 The guy's sign should read :01.8...Real smart fan

  • If Jordan Didn't Retire, I'd bet he'd be irate over that call

  • it was clearly a foul. but not something you should call during that situation... i say, let them play it out...

    on a side note. what i really don't get with NBA rules or Basketball rules is why would it be a foul when the player already released the ball? It didn't alter the shot in any way. Right? Yeah sure it's to protect the players from hard fouls but in this situation, that was in no way a HARD foul!

  • I've seen this play 100 times.No foul.You can't have a shooting foul on a guy AFTER the ball left his hand.Incidental contact within the game.Pippen was in the act of making a basketball play on defense, ball left Davis' hand then incidental contact was made that didn't affect actual play, thus no foul.Happens all the time, even today and no call.What made it so bad was that this was just part of a series of horrible calls Hollins made on the Bulls in the 90s, and easily the worst of them.

  • It's a foul. Let's not pretend we're blind.

  • This was an awesome series. Heartbreaking as a Bulls fan. But that was NOT a foul.

  • no foul.

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  • Hubert Davis may have went to UNC, but he just flopped like he was a dookie.

  • The truth is ticky tack fouls shouldn't decide NBA playoff games. That was my all time favorite Bulls team. It was Pippen's team.

  • there is nothing clear about this foul as far as this footage is concerned but the ref had the angle and was right there so I can live with it..................

  • HOLLINS later admitted it wasnt a foul yall do know this right???

  • @carloneal EXACTLY!!! He admitted it and Chicago should have won.

  • hubie brown is such a fucking senile idiot

  • thats not a foul u fukin morons!

  • @ abigail3877 the only thing pathetic is the excuses your trying to make ,pacers didnt get lucky in 95 they played 48 minutes, reggie killed them starks had an epic fail at the free throw line ,ewing bricked an easy 5 foot put back, then they fouled reggie lol, as for this game maybe i can see the foul being called today because the league has been pussyfied but back then it was a total bs call, nyc had that window with out mj and couldnt close, btw how may championsips do the knicks have ? ugh

  • Oh and it's funny that the bulls fans are so "Pathetic" That they were happy the knicks didn't win a championship.You guys were not worthy of having MJ. You Guys are crying foul over a call, When your team always got the calls with Jordan. And for the idiot that's saying the knicks got there butt kicked in 97 by miami.are you kidding me ? They suspended half of the team . and reggie miller got lucky in 95" got their butts kicked in the next series, Maybe miami will kick your butts this time.

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  • Lol. I'm not from new york..But you bulls fans are hilarious. I bet some of you were probably 5 years old and never seen the Bulls play ..Your just on a mj bandwagon

    Number 1, Do you know how many fouls the bulls haven't gotten away with year after year because of Mj. lets face it The bulls wasn't that good without michael. he had to score 37 points in order to win the games for the bulls. You guys are Extremely selfish..You getting mad at knicks fans about what? you alrady had championships.

  • @Jessyjoyable Lol, I agree what are bulls fans mad about ? They got every call under the sun? Remember charles smith call..That was herendous The year before .Of course bulls fans weren't complaining about that Bias call. So why are you mad. Let's face it, Michael jordan got all the calls and won practically every game for that team by himself amost all the time. And thats what bull fans Don't Comprehend. I don't recall the bulls winning any championships since 98 when Jordan retired.

  • fucking bullshit call

  • I laughed my ass off when after finally beating the Bulls with with the worst bullshit call in NBA playoff history they still couldn't win the championship that year. EPIC FAIL!!!

    Final Tally:

    Bulls: SIX championships

    Knicks: ZERO championships

    LMFAO

  • What I don't understand is why the Bulls didn't try to go to Kukoc again. I mean Pippen was guarded well and it was almost impossible to get into him, especially underneath the basket! Kukoc is also a pretty confident player down the stretch, as evidenced in game 3 of that series!

  • I don't care about either of these teams but that's a TERRIBLE call...

    TERRIBLE.

  • lol even phil jackson was crazy :D now when lakers are in bad he is cool :D

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  • this game doesn't change the fact that new york has been chicago's bitch throughout history

  • Biggest bullshit call ever. A foul has to interfere with the shot. Pippen didn't touch him until AFTER the ball was released.....No foul. Suck it new york. That's why Houston kicked your ass that year....Then two years later we beat your ass in 5 games. Then you never met us again in the playoffs because your players decided to get rowdy....then...well...Now your team just sucks...minus S.T.A.T. and Felton.

  • one more thing about this play scottie pippen was one of my favortive players of all-time but why is chasing hubert davis when he was a good distance away from him he should'nt have chased him when he was that good of distance from him.

  • look this was'nt a make up call from 1993 if anybody saw that play in 1993 john starks traveled and patrick ewing clearly pushed off on stacey king that play should'nt happened in 1993.

  • If Jordan Still Played That Season, I'd Bet He'd Be Upset Over That Call

  • patrick ewing looks like a monkey

  • Some angles are not quite so obvious, but the angle at 2:15 makes it PAINFULLY obvious there was no foul committed. Pippen runs out, jumps, extends his right arm to block the shot. The ball clears his hand because he's too late, and he harmlessly floats by the shooter to the left, making no contact with the shooter's left or right hand (or arm, or body for that matter). It's obvious.

  • I can't believe anyone can watch this play and actually think that was a good call. I don't see any foul being committed at all.

  • This call on Pippen is BY FAR one of the worst calls in NBA history

  • this was an absolute disgrace & shall ever be.

  • this is was absolute disgrace & shall ever be.

  • Remember this was the 90's back then that would not be a foul. today it would be....

  • the travesty wouldve been if knicks woudlve won the title that year, but they did not even win it and the bulls won 6 lol

  • I'll never forget this bullshit call. Thanks for uploading.

  • You know what, that stillis not a foul. Once the ball is released, it's incidental contact. Number two, the hand is part of the ball, this only changes when a players forearm or elbow is touched. Not the hand and wrist. Number three this is the playoffs in the final seconds. Unless its obvious, let the players win it. Also, didn't Hugh hollins make the same call against Jordan two years later during the bulls last game of that 72-10 season? That was just a bad call.

  • Bad call or not, this sort of made up for the 1993 Eastern Conference Finals Game 5, where Charles Smith was mugged at the end of the game and there was no foul...had the refs called a foul in that situation the Knicks win that series

  • @dpinzow i agree... no one ever brings that up... the knicks may have won it all if they called a foul

  • @dpinzow Actually if you watch that play you'll see that every single block on Smith was clean. It's tough to tell from the broadcast angle, but I've seen it from the under the basket angle, and not a single one of the blocks is even close to being a foul. The players don't hit any part of his hand or arm on all 4 or 5 blocks, as miraculous as that is. That's why it's such a famous, incredible play. It was totally clean.

  • One of the biggest bail-out, garbage calls in playoff history. There was contact after the ball was gone and Hollins decided the outcome. In the end, the Knicks went on to play the Rockets, Riley let Starks choke away their best chance at a title since the early '70s. Knicks should have capitalized before when MJ got back, because when he came back, the Knicks championship hopes went down the toilet, and they are STILL THERE!!!

  • @travismo That 94 Finals, Rudy T simply outcoached Riley. And the last chance of hope for the Knicks winning something was when Reggie Miller beat them in 95 semi-finals.

  • Horrible call, you dont call that bailout crap in a playoff game this happens on 90% of 3 point attemps bad call and im not even a bulls fan LAKERS ALLL DAY BABY :)

  • BULL SHIT DONT MATTER THE BULLS OWNED THE PRICKS WE RUNNIT KNICK FANS ARE GREAT LOVE EM NOTHING AGAINST THEM BUT YOU ALL KNOW IF MIKE WASN'T BULLSHITTIN PLAYING BASEBALL YA'LL ASSES WOULDA BEEN TOAST REAL TALK JOE LOL!!! FURTHERMORE THIS SEASON GETS AN * JUS SAYIN

  • no foul

  • Pause the video at 2:59! That's not a foul? C'mon get real guys

  • Bulls 11 FT attempts, Knicks 24? IMO not a foul on the Hubert Davis 3. Pippen is way too smart a player and defender to make a foul. People think Bulls were favored by refs? Yeah right! Give me a break.

  • You know what's really fascinating? At the end of games, when they show how many timeouts each team has, in my 15 years of following the NBA, and watching the Bulls with intent during their best days, never (it seems to me) that the Bulls had less Timeouts remaining within the last minute or two of games. This is a testament to Phil Jackson's efficient use of his players, trusting his players, and letting them figure it out. That's a sign of great coaching and team chemistry! Go Bulls!

  • lmao he clearly fouled him..... smh

  • Biggest FLOP in NBA history.

  • @Invisus944 like the reggie miller kick out flop in a way don't you think?

  • This is TNT's version of "Hubert Davis from straightaway and he is fouled!"

  • It's debatable if it's a foul, but its not debatable if you call that kind of ticky tack foul at the end of a game. You don't. It's a shame this is all Knicks fans have to live on for the past two decades. SIX CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!!!!

  • If that foul hadn't been called on Pippen, then Jo Jo English would have been the series MVP. (Game 5 would have never come down to that if Derek Harper were playing in that game)

  • No doubt one of the WORST bail out calls in NBA playoff history. The last thing a team wants to get beat by is a whistle. That's the kind of call I would expect to see in today's NBA but not in the 90's.

  • The bulls could have went home up 3-2 and take the series easily....

  • This makes me so mad

  • and who said they didnt call touch calls in the early 90s

  • horrible call, you don't make those call late in games, it was afte the shot, touch foul bullshit.

  • How is it a clear foul when the foul came AFTER the shot!!

  • yeah its just unfortunate they didn't win everything that year cause of a bad game 7 from starks, but u gotta love the old knick teams, they were tough man.

  • Brklnbred, Looking back on that game 7 against the Rockets in Houston, I would have taken more 2-pointers rather than 3-pointers if I were Starks. The reason is because the percentage of making 2-pointers would be much better than making 3-pointers. It is common sense. In that game, where he went 2-18, he took 11 of those shots from 3-point range. Had he taken less three pointers and more two pointers, he might have had at least 15 points. But, the Knicks did the best they could in 1994.

  • only a new yorker or a bull hater would say this ^^^ -_- obviously dont know the basics of basketball...

  • @KaingNJC1, that is not true, other cities would have said that that was a foul on Pippen.

  • @Emanuelknicks  no foul...

  • @Emanuelknicks fouled by gravity...if you look this would be the premature reggie miller like foul.

  • @Emanuelknicks It has nothing to do with other cities. You have a clear bias. But that's okay. It was a ticky tack foul AND a late whistle. Yes, Davis was still considered to be in the act of shooting because he was still in the air. But c'mon, he'd already let the ball go PLUS he flopped. In any case, I'd like to thank all you Knick fans for giving us Bulls fans some hearts to break.

    PS, Ewing was a bum.

  • @Emanuelknicks,

    I'm not sure you can attest to that. your opinion is even more unfair because the name Kincks is in your user name. An unbiased fan knows that you dont blow the whistle on that.

  • @Emanuelknicks it was a foul. no question.

    BUT AT THAT TIME IN THE NBA, IN 1994. that was usually a no call.

    that's why the bulls were surprised.

  • @Brklnbred

    It's not a foul at all. It was a horrible call and even Hugh Hollins has admitted it was a terrible call. Without that call the bulls win the series

  • @Brklnbred

    It's not a foul at all. It was a horrible call and even Hugh Hollins has admitted it was a terrible call. Without that call the bulls win the series

  • @Brklnbred No, it's a terrible call. It's clear as day this isn't a foul, he doesn't even touch him. Ref was being paid by someone.

  • @Brklnbred It's a clear foul based on today's standards. In 1994, it was a horrible call. That type of foul was literally never called back then. Today, with increased safety concerns for players, that foul is called all the time. It doesn't look unfair to us, but I remember when it happened it was complete b.s.

  • how could anyone be fouled after he has given the shot???

  • Touch fouls are not made late in games. This call was pathetic

  • I remember this game as if it had happened yesterday. Scottie commited a foul after the ball had left his hands, therefore; this should NOT have been a shooting foul. Just glad the Knicks DIDN'T win the Championship that year! ;)

  • Well this really don't matter.. the knicks NEVER won a title in the 90s, they choked in 94.. pacers upset them in 95, got their asses kicked by the bulls in 96, miami beat the shit out of them in 97, who cares what happened in 98, the spurs beat their asses in 99, 00 indiana ripped their balls off, 2001.. who cares??? knicks suck baalllllls hahaha