even the terrorist is some other religion, ppl would also not agree. in the end its not the religion, but its the ppl who twist and turn everything, for their own needs.
ya thats very true. look at gandhiji, look who killed him? it was fanatics who killed him, fanatics from his own faith. and to this very day these same dam rss/bjp fanatics continue to bash him left and right. even some poeple have said that l.k. advani himself supplied the gun to godse that killed gandhiji. "i am a muslim, a hindu, a christian and a jew and so are all of you. when you shout those slogans you bring fear into the heart of your brothers, stop it, that is not the india i want" m.g.
nevermind, we both can keep on having this argument for centuries, but there would be no solution. only if it is proved. but in the end there are people allways to comment/critic/protest against the real truth too. i mean even the moon landing was also called fake! so even if that terrorist is pakistani, there would be ppl saying he is not.
and u say that indian govt are known for its tortures. ohh comon, who isnt??? the us=guatanamo bay?, pakistan=toturing indian soldiers during kargil war?. every country does it
theres no way that the indian govt can lie for the identity of the terrorist. police from france, italy, uk and us are there!!!
of course they all do. my point was we cant take any 'confession' as fact because it is made through torture. the police beat people, its one reason why crime is so low in india. the indian govt tortured people in the past claiming a pakistani connection to previous bombings, only for it to turn that an indian army col. has been arrested in a series of bombings across india, just days before what occured in Bombay.
and yah one more thing.when the terrorist were tapped and heard there conversation. they were talking in punjabi, but then they said they are from deccan, i mean wtf !!!!how come u r from deccan and then u r speaking punjabi!!!!
as a deccani hyderabadi i can say we are not 'paindoos' we do not speak punjabi lol. even in pakistan urdu speakers in karachi do not get along with punjabis. if someone wants to prove a pakistani connection, the phone numbers on the sattelite phone are there, i suggest someone call those numbers and see who picks up on the other end? and ask them about this. rss actvists have pretended to be pakistanis in the past. not only that list their address so pak journalists can goto thier hometown.
then i want say that if u have another patner with lots of amunation then why cant u hijack a police van?? why is that so difficult. remeber citizens cant carry arms and amunations, so they cant fight back.
even when you are armed its not easy to do. you rarely deal with cops, trust me they will surround you like there is no tommorrow. if you are two guys, they will call in a swat team on you. not only that they rode around with an injured cop bleeding in the back of the van! i have the video of his interview up on here under 'raw video'. it is possible that the bombay mafia underwold may have done this on the orders of their don, its possible. but i still think theres a mossad connection.
then i want to say on the red thread. why cant they wear it?? in order to disguise themselves!!and why cant they be drunk or drugged?? in order to kill like this u have to be somekind of under some drugg!!
you dont have to be drugged. plus if they were supposed fanatics, why would they get drunk when alchohol is forbidden in our religion the way beef is forbiddin in hinduism? im not trying to paint hindus as bad, what im saying is that certain organizations, like the rss may have been behidn this, because some of thier people have been arrested recently for a string of bombings. and as a disguise, you dont need a disguise in india, just wear western clothing, you cant tell what religion someone is
i want to coment on ur comment saying,"thats not the act done by "jihadi's". first of all the terrorist changed the whole concept of sending grown up men or elder experts. these were boys, they were arnd 20yrs!
if they were fanatic 'jihadi' why didnt they have big beards? why didnt they wear prayer caps? why didnt they shout 'allah hu akbar' when shooting everyone? isnt that what 'jihadis' do right? yet these gusy didnt do any of that, which points to the r.s.s. instead, becuase they have prenteded to be paksitani in the past when arrested for bombings in india. blame the groups, not the religion of any religion.
btw if you look at the statistics box here, this video is very popular in estonia lol. someone hot linked it to a men's estonian news magazine, something i found interesting.
i just find it hard to believe that anyone can hijack a police van in all places in bombay, and that too have a bleeding policeman still inside the van. plus that one of the gunmen pictured had a saffron red rakhi on his wristband and the fact that eyewitnesses, including a bombay policeman who shot back at them said some of the shooters were white men with blonde hair who fired shots at him. the indian govt. is notirious for propoganda that people should question and not believe.
first of all ur argument doesnt even count now, bcuz the terrorist has already confronyed that he is from pakistan. if even i pay attention to u and wat u saying, then i have to say that the terrorist were first of all very clever,after seeing all the distruction they have caused, so why not wear stuff(indian stuff)to fool people who might suspect them!! secondly abt the liqour, thats bullshit. now many muslims drink liqour and eat pork. even i have muslim freinds for proof.
but are those muslims 'jihadis'? does that make sense for 'jihadis' to go out and get drunk before a rampage like this? that's hardly the act of a fanatic. thats like the rss chowing down on mutton chops before storming a masjid. would you believe something like that? not only that, these suspects captured are tortured into confessions. there is no doubt about that. if you were tortured, i bet you would admit to being pakistani too! thats why we cant take these 'confessions' seriously.
ppl hav u seen a yellow thread on the wrist of one of the attackers...thats more likely to be a hindu tradition rather than observed by a muslim!!!is this creates any doubt in ur mind??and u know they stocked food stuff in one of the hotels theyy had captured...that included liquor...a muslim extremist who likes to kill ppl in the name of islam is not likely consume alchol..think about it..n why ths has been covered by the media??
actually it was a red saffron wrist band worn at rakhi, a hindu custom. plus they went out and got drunk before doing this, not the act of a 'jihadi'.
they may have been journalists, but given these events im not suprised the people of bombay came out into the streets to see what was going on. its pretty normal really, especially in india.
The corrupt shameless low life kiss-up assss kissing Indian government stop being a PUPPET to the nazi AmeriKKKa and stop doing the neo-nazi fascist U.S's dirty filthy war monger imperialist works, then this kind of attack will stop.
India is not a puppet of the americans. You guys have not idea, maybe read up a bit before typing ignorant comments.
First, Pakistan was allied with America during the cold war and India leaned toward USSR.
Now, India is leaning towards America but doesn't support it's war on Iraq and isn't a puppet government AT ALL. That's why they exploded nukes in defiance of America and choose their own foreign policy.
This fucker with some blood in hand should be punched out for trying to scare others. I fucking hate those kind of people, "oh, i'm bleeding, i die now, it's coming from my finger, oh please god take me there, i'm coming".
For fucks sake. I've been in positions where i had to give first-aid and there was also blood. With skills what i learned in normal school. :)
There are many many attacks on India, but did anyone notice that CNN and all major networks have given non-stop coverage to these attacks (30+ hours now). When the hundreds of peoples killed in the past attack, they were not important for them... but now 6 westerners killed and these hypocrites are crying like bitches! Dont let these hypocrites divide all the people in India. India needs unity at this moment dont think any retaliatory attack will help you in any way, that will only make it worse
its not really hypocracy, the problem is that cnn, bbc, are western news organizations. no one really pays much attention to what happens in india, unless foreigners are involved. during the nuclear crisis of south asia, all the american networks gave full coverage. guess what happened? no one in the american public cared and made it known they didnt care.
I guess you're right there that they are western news organizations... but they claim to be objective and they operate worldwide, so that should make them international instead of only western. The bigger problem is that stupid people that don't care anything about India, see this on CNN and are making all kind of stupid comments on the internet trying to make the conflict bigger than it is.
well cnn international version which we rarely get in the u.s. does cover india more. we have a domestic version of cnn in america which has very little world news, something even ted turner complained about. plus, there is cnn india, which is where this video is from and i posted a link to thier live video feed here. but you are right india does need unity, even opposition parties in india has called for that, since an event like this could lead to sectarian riots in bombay itself.
tuade nal anj he hona chahe . panchodoooo .u bloody indianss kali maa ki phudiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
hammad995 2 years ago
Very Strange...
The whole hotel was surronded by military and police. How in da hell did yhey manage to go out and nick the police car ?????
Badbarlas 2 years ago
fuckin hell they hijacked a police van you would'nt expect that you would'nt even flinch because you think its harmless
specops11 3 years ago
even the terrorist is some other religion, ppl would also not agree. in the end its not the religion, but its the ppl who twist and turn everything, for their own needs.
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
ya thats very true. look at gandhiji, look who killed him? it was fanatics who killed him, fanatics from his own faith. and to this very day these same dam rss/bjp fanatics continue to bash him left and right. even some poeple have said that l.k. advani himself supplied the gun to godse that killed gandhiji. "i am a muslim, a hindu, a christian and a jew and so are all of you. when you shout those slogans you bring fear into the heart of your brothers, stop it, that is not the india i want" m.g.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
nevermind, we both can keep on having this argument for centuries, but there would be no solution. only if it is proved. but in the end there are people allways to comment/critic/protest against the real truth too. i mean even the moon landing was also called fake! so even if that terrorist is pakistani, there would be ppl saying he is not.
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
maybe he is maybe he is not. what if it turns out he is from bombay and works for dawood ibrahim then what?
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
and u say that indian govt are known for its tortures. ohh comon, who isnt??? the us=guatanamo bay?, pakistan=toturing indian soldiers during kargil war?. every country does it
theres no way that the indian govt can lie for the identity of the terrorist. police from france, italy, uk and us are there!!!
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
of course they all do. my point was we cant take any 'confession' as fact because it is made through torture. the police beat people, its one reason why crime is so low in india. the indian govt tortured people in the past claiming a pakistani connection to previous bombings, only for it to turn that an indian army col. has been arrested in a series of bombings across india, just days before what occured in Bombay.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
and yah one more thing.when the terrorist were tapped and heard there conversation. they were talking in punjabi, but then they said they are from deccan, i mean wtf !!!!how come u r from deccan and then u r speaking punjabi!!!!
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
as a deccani hyderabadi i can say we are not 'paindoos' we do not speak punjabi lol. even in pakistan urdu speakers in karachi do not get along with punjabis. if someone wants to prove a pakistani connection, the phone numbers on the sattelite phone are there, i suggest someone call those numbers and see who picks up on the other end? and ask them about this. rss actvists have pretended to be pakistanis in the past. not only that list their address so pak journalists can goto thier hometown.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
then i want say that if u have another patner with lots of amunation then why cant u hijack a police van?? why is that so difficult. remeber citizens cant carry arms and amunations, so they cant fight back.
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
even when you are armed its not easy to do. you rarely deal with cops, trust me they will surround you like there is no tommorrow. if you are two guys, they will call in a swat team on you. not only that they rode around with an injured cop bleeding in the back of the van! i have the video of his interview up on here under 'raw video'. it is possible that the bombay mafia underwold may have done this on the orders of their don, its possible. but i still think theres a mossad connection.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
then i want to say on the red thread. why cant they wear it?? in order to disguise themselves!!and why cant they be drunk or drugged?? in order to kill like this u have to be somekind of under some drugg!!
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
you dont have to be drugged. plus if they were supposed fanatics, why would they get drunk when alchohol is forbidden in our religion the way beef is forbiddin in hinduism? im not trying to paint hindus as bad, what im saying is that certain organizations, like the rss may have been behidn this, because some of thier people have been arrested recently for a string of bombings. and as a disguise, you dont need a disguise in india, just wear western clothing, you cant tell what religion someone is
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
panchooodo tude nal asa he hona chaiiiii ...u bloody indian jb bhe kush hota ha pakistan pe ilzam laga dete hooo kanjrooooo .tudi ma ki chuuut
hammad995 2 years ago
i want to coment on ur comment saying,"thats not the act done by "jihadi's". first of all the terrorist changed the whole concept of sending grown up men or elder experts. these were boys, they were arnd 20yrs!
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
if they were fanatic 'jihadi' why didnt they have big beards? why didnt they wear prayer caps? why didnt they shout 'allah hu akbar' when shooting everyone? isnt that what 'jihadis' do right? yet these gusy didnt do any of that, which points to the r.s.s. instead, becuase they have prenteded to be paksitani in the past when arrested for bombings in india. blame the groups, not the religion of any religion.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
btw if you look at the statistics box here, this video is very popular in estonia lol. someone hot linked it to a men's estonian news magazine, something i found interesting.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
This shows that Indian government it self was involved in this and Indian Police was firing on people.Shameeee
shahidinterliner 3 years ago
i just find it hard to believe that anyone can hijack a police van in all places in bombay, and that too have a bleeding policeman still inside the van. plus that one of the gunmen pictured had a saffron red rakhi on his wristband and the fact that eyewitnesses, including a bombay policeman who shot back at them said some of the shooters were white men with blonde hair who fired shots at him. the indian govt. is notirious for propoganda that people should question and not believe.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
first of all ur argument doesnt even count now, bcuz the terrorist has already confronyed that he is from pakistan. if even i pay attention to u and wat u saying, then i have to say that the terrorist were first of all very clever,after seeing all the distruction they have caused, so why not wear stuff(indian stuff)to fool people who might suspect them!! secondly abt the liqour, thats bullshit. now many muslims drink liqour and eat pork. even i have muslim freinds for proof.
dvdragonfly 3 years ago
but are those muslims 'jihadis'? does that make sense for 'jihadis' to go out and get drunk before a rampage like this? that's hardly the act of a fanatic. thats like the rss chowing down on mutton chops before storming a masjid. would you believe something like that? not only that, these suspects captured are tortured into confessions. there is no doubt about that. if you were tortured, i bet you would admit to being pakistani too! thats why we cant take these 'confessions' seriously.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
ppl hav u seen a yellow thread on the wrist of one of the attackers...thats more likely to be a hindu tradition rather than observed by a muslim!!!is this creates any doubt in ur mind??and u know they stocked food stuff in one of the hotels theyy had captured...that included liquor...a muslim extremist who likes to kill ppl in the name of islam is not likely consume alchol..think about it..n why ths has been covered by the media??
todieforfarhan 3 years ago
actually it was a red saffron wrist band worn at rakhi, a hindu custom. plus they went out and got drunk before doing this, not the act of a 'jihadi'.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
This all happen cuz america...fking noob...they only think about themself..
OohBollywood 3 years ago
These people should be at home behind barricaded doors... out on the street like that, they're just making themselves targets. Stay strong, Mumbai.
mikedubya 3 years ago
they may have been journalists, but given these events im not suprised the people of bombay came out into the streets to see what was going on. its pretty normal really, especially in india.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
The corrupt shameless low life kiss-up assss kissing Indian government stop being a PUPPET to the nazi AmeriKKKa and stop doing the neo-nazi fascist U.S's dirty filthy war monger imperialist works, then this kind of attack will stop.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 3 years ago
u are ignorant and stupid for that comment. you obviously don't know your history regarding india, pakistan and kashmire
thugix 3 years ago
i dont know, i would say bruce does have a point.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
India is not a puppet of the americans. You guys have not idea, maybe read up a bit before typing ignorant comments.
First, Pakistan was allied with America during the cold war and India leaned toward USSR.
Now, India is leaning towards America but doesn't support it's war on Iraq and isn't a puppet government AT ALL. That's why they exploded nukes in defiance of America and choose their own foreign policy.
thugix 3 years ago
This fucker with some blood in hand should be punched out for trying to scare others. I fucking hate those kind of people, "oh, i'm bleeding, i die now, it's coming from my finger, oh please god take me there, i'm coming".
For fucks sake. I've been in positions where i had to give first-aid and there was also blood. With skills what i learned in normal school. :)
migup 3 years ago
LOL dude calm down man, the poor guy got shot haha. but i do admit, we indians are known for our drama haha
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
Yeah, I like Bombay TV. Anyway... :D
migup 3 years ago
There are many many attacks on India, but did anyone notice that CNN and all major networks have given non-stop coverage to these attacks (30+ hours now). When the hundreds of peoples killed in the past attack, they were not important for them... but now 6 westerners killed and these hypocrites are crying like bitches! Dont let these hypocrites divide all the people in India. India needs unity at this moment dont think any retaliatory attack will help you in any way, that will only make it worse
Avicenna1985 3 years ago
its not really hypocracy, the problem is that cnn, bbc, are western news organizations. no one really pays much attention to what happens in india, unless foreigners are involved. during the nuclear crisis of south asia, all the american networks gave full coverage. guess what happened? no one in the american public cared and made it known they didnt care.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
I guess you're right there that they are western news organizations... but they claim to be objective and they operate worldwide, so that should make them international instead of only western. The bigger problem is that stupid people that don't care anything about India, see this on CNN and are making all kind of stupid comments on the internet trying to make the conflict bigger than it is.
Avicenna1985 3 years ago
well cnn international version which we rarely get in the u.s. does cover india more. we have a domestic version of cnn in america which has very little world news, something even ted turner complained about. plus, there is cnn india, which is where this video is from and i posted a link to thier live video feed here. but you are right india does need unity, even opposition parties in india has called for that, since an event like this could lead to sectarian riots in bombay itself.
xgotfiveonitx 3 years ago
Fucking sick!!!
sappihapporipuli 3 years ago