Justification By Faith pt1of5 (Loren Larson) Jimmy Swaggart

[churchboy614]

Is Loren Larson the father of Joseph Larson?

[polopowers1]

We do not become children of God by justification only though that is the first outcome.A man can be justified then be made a child of God by Spirit. The legality of justification is only the first step.The perpetual merit of Christ is not satisfaction of law only. Christ after law is satisfied' must perpetually satisfy God's Nature absent from law. God's Nature exceeds law, becoming new creation the effect of justification. Spirit life is better than what Adam had, new life by Spirit is better.

[mouse42561]

melodicplayer-noman can pull you out of his hand put that dose not mean you cannot walk away from it,your own spirit bare witness to that

[melodicplayer]

Jesus is the final judge (Jn 5: 22-23). He i "is at the right hand of the Father making intercession for us" (Rom 8: 33-34). He "ever lives to make intercession for us" (Heb 7: 25). One can only be "lost" IF Jesus will no longer represent and interede for that formerly saved one. But Jesus has been appointed our High Priest FOREVER (Heb 7: 17, 21). Jesus plainly said, "Whoever believes in Him has passed from death to life, and SHALL NOT come into condemnation" (Jn 5: 24).

[melodicplayer]

If OSAS is ibn fact heresy, then the words of Jesus in John 6: 34-40 are impossible to grasp. For He tells us that the Father has entrusted HIM with the responsibility to 'NOT LOSE ANY' but rather, raise them up on the last day. The only alternative to "not lose' in the passage is to 'raise up. Jesus said, 'Whoever comes to Me, I will NEVER cast out'. That is "ou me" in Greek, a double negative, meaning, "not in any way, under any circumstance'

[turquoise770]

here is an ex. to below: if we believed at one point we WILL not perish is OSAS heresy because "SHOULD not perish" in koine greek is "me apoletai" . "me" =no, not lest and "apoletai" from verb "apollumi" is in the SUBJUNCTIVE, meaning potential or possible perishing ( in the middle voice--action performed on subject by the subject) the SUBJUNCTIVE, implying the conditional, is grammatically dependent on the verb believe, and the only logical alternative is "believe not"

[bamascot1]

wjuler, Please forgive me for getting so upset. God bless you.

[Heb59]

We enter heaven only if we live in holiness. Living in holiness is impossible on our own power, but by the Grace of God we can live in holiness. Jesus death on the cross justified us before God. Now justified we can receive the fullness of Grace through the Holy Spirit who transforms our hearts of stone to hearts of flesh. Our hearts of flesh empowers us to live in holiness which allows us entrance into heaven. Mary pray for us. Amen

[wjuler]

Pls ignore my comments below. He IS NOT a false Preacher. I repent of my Sin for wrongly accusing him. My Brother in Christ bamascot1, has shown me my error. Sorry !

[wjuler]

This is false Doctrine. OSAS is responsible for many Christians being condemned to Hell. It is from the pits of Hell. This Guy is very arrogant & a false preacher. Read Math 7:13-23. 1 Tim 5:15 For some are already turned aside after Satan. Beware!

[bamascot1]

Brother Loren does NOT teach OSAS. Neither do I

[bamascot1]

wjuler, I dare you to watch the first 4 minutes of the 3rd part of this message u stiffed neck fool. Where he tells everyone HOW you lose your soul for losing faith. I am sick and tired of people and their false witness of the true ministers of Gods gospel. You say beware, I say beware of you, you didn't listen to the whole message and made yourself out to be a heritic. I dare you to listen to the first 4 minutes of part three and then say what u said.

[wjuler]

Listen I was wrong & I repent before Almighty God. I should have listened to ALL 5 parts, which I did not do. Now 1 other thing. U as a beleiver should also learn 2 restrain yourself in ur comments. I am a sinner just like u. See Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Blessings.

[wjuler]

Also be very careful with calling somebody a fool. Pls eliminate that from ur vocabulary. Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou FOOL, shall be in danger of hell fire.

[bamascot1]

You can't lose your salvation, but you can walk away from it.

[24estrada24]

are you saved?

[24estrada24]

name one

[24estrada24]

im sorry my friend but you can't lose your salvation if it was so then according to hebrews 6 we can never be saved again when my saviour tells me he gave me eternal life last time i checked it never ends he is the author and finisher of my faith salvation comes 100% in Christ not 99.9% Christ and .1% You

[turquoise770]

@24estrada24 john 3:16 "should not perish, but have everlasting life" in it's subjunctive mood only makes sense when "whosoever believes" is either believing or not believing since those are the only states afforded by the nominative present participle "ho pisteuo"(the one who believes)--to translate "believes" as a one time event (aorist aspect) makes the potentiality of the subjunctive verb an impossibility and even the use of the subjuctive illogical.