In the Beginning (Genesis) was the Trinity

[Uaz31]

The Bible is very facinating when one takes the time to study it. How can anyone not see His signature on it? I believe you are correct on Islam hyjacking the Christian faith. They used Islam as a control of the people to bend their will to enslave whereas the gospel was intended for just the opposite. Mohammed Inc. would surely have seen the power of the gospel as it was spreading and wanted that.

Another interesting study related is of the "one God" of Islam, the rejection of the trinity.

[badasssnipe]

its been LONG time :P 

[billredeemed]

Great video brother, I praise our Father, Jesus and His Holy Spirit and His work in your life!!!!

[ABAisSCIENCE]

@billredeemed, I was starting to wonder about you, since it took you so long to get back to me. Check out the video before this one as it is my call to Muslims to get right with God (me trying to be nice).

In typical fashion I prepare nothing for these videos. I just put the challenge out to Muslims & Jews on this one without even realizing I was going to. I truly would love someone to argue or debate this out with me.

I'll have to study "Lah" more thoroughly from sources outside the Bible.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@billredeemed, I wish this video would get more views. I think it is important. This is the summation of what I have learned so far thanks to 9/11 making me relook at Islam.

Come to find out that "Allah" is more likely "the Lah" ("Al" being "the") and "Lah" being a specific God of the Trinity, namely "Lah" is the accursed Son of God or the lifted up God (to be sacrificed or to ascend to the Father). I really need a genius to look over my work and give me the answers to these questions.

[billredeemed]

@ReligionOfSacrifice I have been real busy lately. I hope that when winter gets here I will get re-involved here. You are the closest to a genius that I know so good "luck" with that. I also don't know how to get people to watch good videos. I do know how to get them to watch videos but I know that you or I don't want to make those videos or work against our Lord. Jesus bless you as always.

[albaghdady2007]

You claiming that ‘Allah was not the same God of the Torah but he was the Lah from the pagan belief’ and secondly you claimed that God is ‘Trinity’. I see there are two questions that need clarified before commencing any further discussion:

-To Examine the role of ‘Allah’ being God in the Arabic Bible, whether it differ from the word ‘Allah’ in the Arabic Qur’an.

-To Investigate Non-Biblical sources outside the bible written during Moses and how they saw God relation to Man.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@albaghdady2007, Think! Is that even possible one Muslim to do?

I am claiming at best from your logic that "Lah" is talked about by Hagar in Genesis and therefore is a pagan god as you suggest from Egypt which was passed from Hagar to her boy Ishmael and on down until the pagan god "Lah" morphed into Allah. In fact there is plenty of writing in the Quran of "Lah" with out the "Al" in front so your god still is "Lah."

Or "Lah" originates with Methuselah. This is what I'm suggesting.

[albaghdady2007]

@ReligionOfSacrifice

Yes, but clearly you are mistaken in both points.

If you cannot read Arabic, you will get confused. What I understand about you, you are uneducated Christian, if the word God interpreted different from English, therefore no longer God. There are millions of Christians Arabs, believe in Allah.

[albaghdady2007]

@ReligionOfSacrifice

The answer to this, if you have Arabic Bible, you will certainly find the word ‘God’ interpreted into Allah. The Qur’an does not only believe in God but believes in all the Biblical Prophets and their teachings. Let us take for example the Ku Klux Klan, who murdered innocent people in the name of the cross were they Christians or not?

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

People want to know about the rapture & resurrection of the dead. It happens after 3 1/2 days & you can read about it in Revelation 11:8-12 focusing on Jerusalem specifically.

If the two witnesses are the Jew & Christian who do you think killed them & what God do you think they worship? It is likely there is a crescent moon over their buildings because the moon is the lesser light ruling over darkness. I hear Ur of the Chaldeans had the most archeological remains of the moon god.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@Twisted1Hazel, The wicked were continuously cutting off the righteous to eliminate seed (cut off Messiah) so God took Abraham from the wicked nation of Chaldeans (Read Job 1:17 again) & then defined to the world he would fight for Israel.

Now it's end times & Jesus has died for sin & now he reveals his kingdom through 2 witnesses (Jews & Christians) but when our testimony ends in Revelation 11:8-12 God reveals his power in Jerusalem (power over death) & the 2 witnesses are millions of people.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

To witness of "Lah" is to say you believe in the coming God as a Man and thus are one of the righteous who does animal sacrifice ("Iscah") and that would mean death for you because if another wanted to fight against that God the method would be to cut off the righteous from the Earth. See Genesis 11:28-29 and Job 1:15, 17.

God wasn't looking for a battle of man against man. God wanted to show for this nation he fought for them.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@Twisted1Hazel, it is an offense to man (especially a Pharaoh) to think he would have to cave to an afflicted God and so he would have fought. Hence, God didn't give the name "Lah" to Moses. He did not want the Jew to have to physically defend himself.

God desired to give multiple plagues to Pharaoh to show Pharaoh he was a coveting liar. Also, God desired to fight for His own people and show the world His power. That is what he always does. Look at how God changed the world with Christianity.

[LambNLions]

There is no trinity . I AM / Singular.The Word of God, and not the **doctrines of men, "the three that bares witness isn't the Father, the Son and the Spirit**? GOD/ABBA IS SPIRIT., so then how can God be apart from Himself to call Himself another outside of the Visible being the reflection of the Invisible? Here a little and there a little in support of, then the passage that says in the name of the Abba Son "&" Spirit, is misleading. ABBA, baptism water & His bloodline the witnesses.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@LambNLions, Singularity isn't lost. Isaiah 9:6 clearly says the child or son is "The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father."

Jesus and the Father are the same deity.

Furthermore in this video when I say that Lamech Noah means "for the despairing this same shall be the Comforter with us here" it is in reference to the lifted high God "Lah" which is Jesus so again Jesus and the Comforter (Holy Spirit) are one.

The Trinity does not negate "Here, oh, Israel the Lord thy God is one."

[SaltnVinegarPringles]

I've seen some whacky out there bad interpretations of the scriptures and this definately is high up on the far-out-there scale.

Please don't send this awful diabolical satanic influenced junk at my inbox

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@SaltnVinegarPringles, It is indeed far out and diabolical in the sense it is the clear message of the gospel which can convert sinners who think only of themselves into those who are lovers of men. For if their God was willing to die for man while they were still sinners surely they also should care for mankind.

Later.

[SaltnVinegarPringles]

@ReligionOfSacrifice Ok lets get this straight.  Because you've learned how to use the index of a strongs concordance does not make you an expert on languages.

Even this comment proves your ignorance : lovers of men = homosexuality. You stating that anyone who's not a christian is gay???

all this el - lah stuff?? what??? Thats some confused mess, confusing Hebrew and arabic.... Islam is a completley different culture from the biblical hebrews. I don't know where to start with this mess

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@SaltnVinegarPringles, You have trouble thinking, understanding, & debating (avoid it). You misunderstood what I wrote. I was saying if you understand Jesus you will love people because Jesus died for sinners (all people are). Muslims only hate & work toward "no flesh." They kill thinking they do the will of their god Allah (not a god at all unless you understand the original meaning of "Lah" as that was intended for reference to God) which is a denial of the original "Lah" to propagate hate.

[SaltnVinegarPringles]

@ReligionOfSacrifice no it is you who lacks understanding.

Understand this : Jesus is a name attached to the roman god mythra. Christiantiy is an extention of the mythratic religion. The "adoption" of the canon by constentine was pure genius. Rebranding is nothing new.

Islam and christiantiy are both facets/daughters of the entity known as mystery babylon. Babylon means confusion, and you are clearely displaying signs of being a desciple of her whoredoms.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@SaltnVinegarPringles, You open your mouth to swallow what ever anyone says without thinking. Read the book "The Case for the Real Jesus" by Lee Strobel. Specifically Challenge #4 "Christianity's Beliefs about Jesus were copied from Pagan Religions.

You realize I am describing the gospel in full clarity through a genealogy prior to the great flood? You have a brain don't you? It seems you are like a tree falling in an empty forest unable to realize you have accomplishing nothing by proof yet.

[Goohuman]

I am a fellow Christian and was raised with and believe in God and was taught about the Trinity nature of God. I am also a creature of logic and understand there are things we cannot know.

The Trinity is one of them. We can speculate all we want, defend our positions and expose others to the logic and reason that supports our belief, but it is, ultimately, faith. The Bible is a personal guide, IMO and not an explanation of all things religious.

Seek the truth honestly is the best we can do.

[FRANCECHILD]

GOD BLESS US ALL. AMEN

[Divinity33372]

Don't send me this religious crap.

[ALittleBrother]

Excellent Video. God bless you.

[aishaladon]

thanks for sharing your video however the word Trinity is not in the Bible. Do you know Hebrew. The bible has been changed and is no longer in its original form and is missing many of its original books therefore no longer a reliable source by 100%. The God of the Muslims, Christians, and Jews is the same. There is ONE God who created all mankind. If Jesus is God why would he pray to himself. Google Nicene creed. Study the history of Christianity and its holidays.

[donHooligan]

@aishaladon right on. several chapters of the codex bibles haven't even been translated into english, yet.

...and the books moses "wrote" were passed through oral tradition until the pharisees wrote them down.

[themanofearth]

Sorry buddy but this ENTIRE video is based on a logical fallacy called post hoc ergo propter hoc. You're asserting that the trinity ITSELF (not the foundations of it in the form of blood sacrifice and so forth) can be found in the Old Testament. The IDEA of Christianity is founded on the OT however the trinity is unique to Christianity and is not in the Bible. Though the mental gymnastics you're preforming in this video are interesting/amusing, the fallacy sticks out like a sore thumb.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@themanofearth, So you don't see two forms of God in Genesis 5 with Mahalalel where "el" at the end of his name is a form of God like Ishmael and Israel, nor do you see it in Methuselah where "Lah" is at the end of his name and is a form of God that the Muslim talks about in today's world while knowing nothing about this god?

You also do not see information about a Comforter in relation to Noah in Genesis 5:29?

I guess you don't see the Trinity in Genesis 5. I can't make it any clearer. Later.

[themanofearth]

@ReligionOfSacrifice The fact that there are two different accounts of Genesis smashed together and, from a literary standpoint, poorly cobbled together into one is a well known fact to anyone who has studied the Bible with a critical eye and/or read any literature on the subject of the Bible's construction. The fact that YOU take that as the trinity being present in the OT is just a little sad. Your faith has blinded you to fact as religious faith tends to do.

[worksequalsalvation]

@themanofearth

Amazingly, religionofblood does not realize the rouge band of outcast forming a nomadic tribe called Hebrews originating from the Canaanites, still kept the god El to be their god.Scholars are discovering more and more. Just like Bath el. Deceivers,preachers,like to say it is a generic name.Not so to their embarrasment. Google or youtube it. Scholars from Yale and other schools know the deal and seem the only honesty out their...let the truth lead where it goes.Good comment.

[themanofearth]

@worksequalsalvation Thanks and I will. :-)

[worksequalsalvation]

@themanofearth

Place period before "com" to enjoy.When realizing how utterly repusive it is stating our

Creator needs blood to redeem,you'll be free from Romes grasps.What a feeling...it is better than self induced emotion of being born again which is merely pschosis trip even serial killers gets when confessing crime to world.

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[KingJamesBible]

@themanofearth Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let US make man in OUR IMAGE, after OUR likeness:

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,(BODY) and breathed into his nostrils the breath (SPIRIT) of life; and man became a living soul (SOUL).

Body, Soul, Spirit = OUR IMAGE = THREE PARTS = Trintiy

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

[sireAndracottus]

The very first verse of the Bible violates the law of conservation........For Nothing can be created form Nothing.....

Mankind. ,scientifically speaking, cannot have descended form just one pair of parents

[dangerouslytalented]

all this hidden meaning in the bible means nothing when taken in the context of reality.

[jimmmmybrady]

@dangerouslytalented So dumb,and of course,so proud of it.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@jimmmmybrady, Not proud. Just amazed at a book nearly 2,000 yrs ago saying people will kill 2 witnesses (Jews & Christians) of same God in Jerusalem. Then whole world will see them simultaneously & give gifts to others to celebrate & deliver the gifts in 3 1/2 days. I say, "Wow! a prediction of T.V., internet, UPS, FedEx, & Muslims in relation to their desire towards Christians & Jews. How cool is that?" Read Revelation 11:8-12 & know when Islam wins in Jerusalem then a resurrection & rapture.

[jimmmmybrady]

@ReligionOfSacrifice My brother,You misunderstood.I was directing the "so dumb,so proud"comment to dangerouslylame.Like MOST atheists he is absolutely proud of his ignorance.

[worksequalsalvation]

@ReligionOfSacrifice Per comments of Revelation,Jesus warns and corrects the false apostle Paul's false doctrine in Rev2.He applaudes Ephesians for rejecting this false apostle.He then scolds Pergamus for doing Paul's doctrine of enjoying meat offered to idols which we know Paul did unless one following Jesus objects.1Cor10

All the churches of Jesus are in Asia.Rev1.Everyone in Asia rejected Paul.2Tim1:15.The prophecy of Joseph is fulfilled.Paul's sickly,wicked churches ate Jesus' churches.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@Twisted1Hazel, The gospel message would be spread to all humanity after the flood through a recitation of the genealogy of mankind. Prior to the flood obviously the gospel message was clear & so people could name their babies in ways to reveal this previously known truth.

"Man appointed fatal injury, the only begotten of the Lord. Praise God, He shall descend teaching through His death communion with the lifted up (afflicted) God. For the despairing, this same shall comfort us here."

[imabeliever85]

Religion of Sacrifice, have you considered picking up an M.A in Bible at Ashland or Asbury or Trinity? Many Masters degrees can be earned online or at the campus.

Also, I recommend John Sailhamer's The Meaning of the Pentateuch, and Kenneth Mathews' two volumes on Genesis. If you are a lighter reader, try Bill

Arnold on Genesis, though i think you will prefer Mathews,

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@imabeliever85, The Bible is easy to learn. Read it all. 6 times before I found my salvation. Not while reading. If you read it believing it to reveal truth you learn even more. Nowadays I read it with my Thru The Bible books corresponding from J. Vernon McGee. I learn something more with each reading.

Try a worthier procedure, Try a broad & steady view; You will kneel in very rapture When you read the Bible through! — Amos R. Wells

I subscribed to this procedure both before & after salvation.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@imabeliever85, What does Kenneth Matthews have to say about Genesis 5 with the genealogy that I just went through here? Does he see a gospel message or the Trinity with a god named "El," a son of God who is accursed named "Lah," and the comforter with us here on Earth in the name of Noah?

I'd love to have his comments under this video along with Ravi Zacharias and other great scholars who study Hebrew.

[worksequalsalvation]

@ReligionOfSacrifice

Ravi says a whole lot of nothing. He has learned religion is most profitable and has become quite wealthy.Why not invite Dr. Bart Erhman's comments my friend? I urge you to check him out at youtube if you want to learn truth and if you are not scared. I know....don't want to disturb your fragil faith.Your minds made up,don't confuse you with truth.Ehrman read EVERY Greek Biblical manuscript and studied them for over 30 years.He went to Moody and Wheaton and then Princeton.

[christysgoodlife]

This is really good. Thanks for your study.

[deZengo]

I was not going to post, but I find it so ironic that the "NON" religious nonmoral majority gets so angry about spiritual / religious post. I don't even have time 2 listen at this moment - but even if I hated the video / disagreed with what you said / I would most likely not make a public spectacle. Of course - drawing attention to others doing it is the same. If so, I accept my label and will wear it without fear. I dislike bullies (cyber and real) and love those who hind behind anonymity

[deZengo]

I was not going to post, but I find it so ironic that the "NON" religious nonmoral majority gets so angry about spiritual / religious post. I don't even have time to listen at this moment - but even if I hated the video / disagreed with what you said / I would most likely not make a public spectacle. Of course - drawing attention to others doing it is the same. If so, I accept my label and will wear it without fear. I dislike bullies (cyber and real) and love those who hind behind anonymity

[deZengo]

I was not going to post, but I find it so ironic that the "NON" religious nonmoral majority gets so angry about spiritual / religious post. I don't even have time to listen at this moment - but even if I hated the video / disagreed with what you said / I would most likely not make a public spectacle. Of course - drawing attention to others doing it is the same. If so, I accept my label and will wear it without fear. I dislike bullies (cyber and real) and love those who hind behind anonymity

[SurfFender]

This is an old Chuck Missler teaching. Chuck is a contemporary of Hal Linsy

[TheIcelandicPatriot]

What the fuck is this shit and why did you send me this?

I am a free man and i will die a free man. The truth? I belive in real facts, not some book writen by a guy in the desert 2000 years ago.

I have wasted half of my childhood in studying all the major religions and i will have no more of there nonesence!!

[deZengo]

@TheIcelandicPatriot : why would you respond like that rather than just "NOT" view / delete the message / or block the channel? Maybe that was a little "over kill" in the response there? It's not that I care ... one way or another, but as you posted it here on a public forum (albeit anonymously ... as most yellers and screamers do) .. I support your right to speak your mind. It does however, already discredit which ever side you support - and give the appearance of ignorance? Again, UR right

[TheIcelandicPatriot]

@deZengo I rarely ban and block people even if i hate them because they have the right to speak there for i usually don't shut them off. Am i a yeller or a screamer? I supose i am, i just love arguing with people.

It's allmost a hobby of mine te he :) I spoke on puplic this time because this guy has sent me this crap three times now and i allways wrote back to him in private. First i was polite but now im just fed up. I might even ban him but i only do that if it's a dire need for it.

[deZengo]

@TheIcelandicPatriot : You know, I respect that and I like the way your responded. ( bows ) Valid points : frustration noted : thanks for explaining. I just don't respond to most of them. I only just by accident clicked on it in the first place. Maybe it was to teach something through you? Respectful disagreements are wonderful, and I thank you for responding in a respectful / honest manner. dZ

[TheIcelandicPatriot]

@deZengo Disagreements are wonderfull, thats what makes os so different and wonderfull at the same time. Not need to bow sir im no royalty.

Have a nice day. GA.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@deZengo, I hate to repeat myself, but for those who do not know how to debate you kind of have to.

Can you refute the evidence? In other words, can you disprove that Hagar called her god "Lah" after hanging out with Abraham?

I'm looking for real points on things. For instance, even if Hagar called her god "Lah" does that mean that Muslims know what sort of god "Lah" (Al-Lah) is?

My video is explaining how "Lah" is the accursed son of God who will be afflicted for the sin of others.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@TheIcelandicPatriot, can you refute the evidence? In other words, can you disprove that Hagar called her god "Lah" after hanging out with Abraham?

I'm looking for real points on things. For instance, even if Hagar called her god "Lah" does that mean that Muslims know what sort of god "Lah" (Al-Lah) is?

My video is explaining how "Lah" is the accursed son of God who will be afflicted for the sin of others.

[imabeliever85]

@TheIcelandicPatriot - You come across as a very bitter person. You think you can dial down the hate a bit?

[TheIcelandicPatriot]

@imabeliever85 As soon as religius nutters leave me alone i will chill down. And im not bitter im mad as hell.

[ReligionOfSacrifice]

@TheIcelandicPatriot, Why be so mad? Have you never read Psalms 49:20? The atheist has a few things right.

I sent this so you can know God is clear as a bell from the beginning which Twisted1Hazel finds exciting. The gospel message would be spread to all humanity after the flood through a recitation of the genealogy of mankind.

Other people like confusion. If you're 1 of them then don't get upset when you demand confusion & then people send things to you that are clear. Difference can be good.

[TheIcelandicPatriot]

@ReligionOfSacrifice I am mad because you keep sending me this crap. I wasted 4 years of my life on religion. I have read the Qu'ran, the Torah and the god damn Bible and i want nothing to do with such bigotry and mindelss hate. You can't proof the existence of a god so shut up. We are 500 years behind in human rights, science and technology because of you. I follow facts, it's that simple. I read and study to know more and more, what do you do? You pray, thats a good way to do nothing.

[SatanStartedIslam]

This video has WHAT to do with the teaching of and support of the false trinity doctrine?

[SatanStartedIslam]

@ ReligionOfSacrifice. Uh @11:50 "The Jew" is going to ask who is this..... (laughing). The Jew?

Jacob's name changed to Israel. Of Israel came the twelve tribes. Judah (Jews) are only ONE of those twelve. Again, "the Jew"? (shaking head).

[TheRationalizer]

Does the biological DNA evidence that the human species did not experience a bottleneck population of less than a few thousand not bother you in the slightest?

[satothequeen]

Thank you for sharing, my Friend.

Well done, very interesting. Thumbs UP!

Have a great week! Regards, Sato :)

[zulfitareen]

your message is good. but it is kind of confusing.

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[65patbill]

Thanks for the message my friend. It gets a little deep for me but I listen and learn. YBIC....bILL