No disrespect meant, but what are you supposed to compare this to? If you compare it to opera, it's below amateur level. And the voice isn't that good.
This song is sung well for someone with her skill level. I posted before that the emotional level of this song i beyond her, and I suppose I should better word what I meant by that statement. Opera, when sung by a more mature voice, one that is seasoned and understands the meaning behind what is being sung, carries emotion in it, letting you feel what the character feels, even if the language is not understood. While the song is not the most complex emotion wise, her voice is blank of emotion.
This aria it's not complete...! why should she sing it uncomplete? And... she is singing as a mezzo now... too many rare thigs... anyway, she is lovely and had a lovely voice as a child...
OH THIS IS WHAT THAT SONG SOUNDS LIKE!!! I'm a big Tintin fan, and the character the Castifiore sings this song all the time. lol just as I imagined, overly operatic in every way.
She's to young to understand the words. I'm glad she attemped this, therefore to critic her is wrong because her management is trying to keep something alive. They are ruining her voice attempting to much to soon.
Charlotte was only 13 when this album came out. She was only a child and she had a treble voice. That's why she didn't have color,tessitura and pitch of an adult opera singer, and that's why she is a soprano.Now charlotte is a mezzosoprano.
@dreamcritic Yes, she was way too young to sing this. People probably did tell her to stop singing opera for the sake of her longterm voice, but I also think that Charlotte and/or her parents and managers wanted to make as much money off her as possible. Also, Church has stated that she never wanted any formal training, so the lack of voice teachers teaching her proper technique has hurt her voice and career.
@arpeggio1358 what complete and utter tripe! I don't know where you get your information from but you are completely wrong. Charlotte has in fact had a voice coach for 12 years since the age of 9. Her name is Louise Ryan and she is credited on Charlotte's albums along with Tina Ruta who is a very respected vocal/language coach - in addition Charlotte had the full support and experience of the Sony Classical team who I am sure know a thing or two about singing.
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I'm sorry, but I still don't like Ms. Church's voice or technique. I'm afraid I'll never change my mind. But the, there are professional opera singers whose voices and technique I don't like. We don't all have to agree on evrything. No hard feelings. :-)
@BlushBabyBlushBaby It doesn't sound to me like you've have had any vocal training or education to be criticizing someone who is more knowledgeable than yourself. It's important to do your research before you discount someone's critique. I am a big fan of Charlotte's voice, but I agree with arpeggio that her technique is lacking. I am training in opera and that's not how you breathe.
@flowersings what an utterly ridiculous comment - I wonder why you bothered. Only an idiot would think that they could deduce whether or not I have had any vocal training simply by reading a comment I make on Youtube. I am in fact a classically trained opera singer and have performed professionally for many years. It is also very clear that I know a greal deal about Charlotte's background and career but feel free to check the facts I have stated about her for credibility.
Several people here have stated that Charlotte has never had any vocal training whatsoever - one of whom was arpeggio1358. I have merely informed them that Charlotte has in fact had a significant amount of vocal training - fact. You suggested that I do my research before rubbishing other people's critique - another ridiculous comment - it is you who has not done your research about Charlotte - and it shows.
I listened to the video you sent me - I don't know the girl but I can tell you that the audio quality is nowhere good enough to study her breathing or technique.
@Hausisse i have since been informed that Ms Church has had formal training. Even though I risk the wrath of her fans, I still can't say that I admire her technique.
@flowersings I've always wondered what she would have sounded like if she had been given all the right training before she began her career. That would have meant delaying the career until she was quite a bit older. The voice might have developed quite differently and without the damage that it has sustained over the years.
No offense. Charlotte took the better road - classical instead of pop. We have to applaud her attempt to "popularize" opera like Sarah Brightman does. But this aria, for me, is not suited for her. Other sopranos like Maria Callas, Anna Moffo, Mirella Freni, Renatta Scotto, Joan Sutherland, Beverly Sills - have fully developed "woman" voices and sing the aria well. Charlotte's voice sounds too child-like and underdeveloped that it might as well be a choir boy singing this.
@sweetaztecangel69 No. Marguerite was an adult woman (in the opera she becomes pregnant with Fautst's child)..she is young but still adult. And Charlotte sounds more than "child- like" she actually is a child and sings like a child. The soprano range for the role calls for a fully developed adult soprano voice
Charlotte is actually a mezzo-sop, and they were forcing lyric soprano songs on her a lot. you can't blame them, b/c those are the song everyone knows. if they gave her songs suited for her voicepart, it would be better appreciated by opera fans, but overlooked by the people who actually bought her music.
@theqoe A mezzo would never be able to hit that high C so easily. A mezzo would certainly not have been able to sing the laughing song so lightly. Mezzo sopranos don't have light voices like Charlotte. I have never heard a child mezzo soprano in my life. Most start out as lyrics like Charlotte. She was just too young for the aria and didn't have the technique. Mezzos have, heavy deep voices and a very low range. Wikipedia is wrong, any average joe can edit the info on there.
She should never have sung this. Fourteen-year old girls don't sing opera arias of this level at their age, they almost always are given art songs, as it's better for developing voices (i.e. singing on the voice, support, keeping breaks out of the voice). It's breathy and off-the-voice singing, and she doesn't have control of the phrasing or legato at all.
My mother was a music major all through high school and collage. She attended Houston's HSPVA and has always sung around me growing up. If there is one thing she has always told me about singing opera it is that if you do not understand the story, you can not live the song. I agree with her on this. At such a young age as 14 one can not understand the complex emotions behind this song. Further more, while she was very talented for her age, she was no where near ready for this song.
@twoanimesisters Her producers were certainly out to wow the public and make money off her. I think that's why she sang so many risky songs for her young age.
@twoanimesisters that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I daresay that Charlotte Church knows more about what she's doing here than you give her credit for. I'm sure you're an expert in the field of opera, what with your mother being a music major and throwing little jewels of wisdom your way, but to declare that she was nowhere ready for this song is a little ridiculous...
Complex emotions...?Are there complex emotions in this song? This, if anything, is a young girl's song! Maybe Marguerite was as young as 15 or 16. Of course, the music is for a mature voice, but the emotions in the song are the excitement of a young girl on receiving a pretty necklace!
@MsIrishEyes17 Respectfully disagree. Although I think that she was very talented, her technique held her back from being great. Her voice doesn't have the color, tessitura, tone, and pitch of seasoned opera singers. She by far does not have the best classical voice, but it was a beautiful one.
anyone interested in hearing what a 12 year old Julie Andrews can sing, check out "12 year old Julie Andrews~Polonaise-Mignon. To my ears simply amazing!
Diastrous at best ~~not an issue with her age. She perhaps can do something else better, at least commercially~~not opera, be it French or Italian (I had heard her sing O mio babbino caro somewhere, as atrociously).
It's easy to bash Charlotte's choice to sing certain songs so young, however had many of us had a mature voice at her age, we might have also made some wrong repertoire choices. Having said that, Charlotte has a beautiful instrument and sings a lovely rendition. It is not the version of an opera singer, however it is lovely in it's own way
I agree with you! And I think that it's also why people who don't know much about real opera found Charlotte so interesting.She has a lovely voice,not a huge trained voice of a mature opera singer but good enough to impress and charm people :)
@classicgrace Not really. She damaged her voice early on with choice or repertoire and bad technique. I sadly fear that jackie Evancho will go the same way. Church shouldn't have been singing opera arias so young. She's off pitch in several places and strained on the top notes. And yes, she has no idea what the aria actually means and was nowhere ready to sing this.
I agree. "Horrible" would be someone who cant sing at all trying to sing this. She can sing. Personally I like this. Someone chose this for her more than likely, so it isnt her fault.
Horrible you say? She was just a child. I'd like you to show me another 14 yr old that could do a better job. This is a quite a difficult song. It is on the Trinity College LTCL Diploma syllabus (if you care to look it up) which is equivilant to a University Degree. In another subject, say Maths or Science, a child of 14 completing a University Degree would be considered a genius, a prodigy. But you rubbish Charlotte's performance as if it is nothing!
My point is that a 14 year old shouldn't sing this aria. A 14 year old lacks the physical development and lacks the emotional understanding of the character to sing this. She sang too much too soon ...its soo breathy...I can hear the breath escaping and yes...its horrible to listen to. Its appropriate for graduate students and maybe some talented undergraduates...but its not appropriate for her at this age. Rep like this ruined a potentially lovely instrument
Thanks for the reply. I am interested in your comment about breath escaping/so breathy etc - I can't hear this at all and wondered if it is that my speakers are perhaps not as clear as yours. Which parts of the song in particular do you hear this?
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I think she has a very beautiful voice, but I do know 14 year old's that can do it better. As I said before, her technique is lacking. Just because she can sing an aria, doesn't mean that she is ready. Not to mention how dangerous it is on young vocal chords to attempt something like this, no matter how talented they are.
@flowersings The fact that you like Rhydian tells me everything I need to know about your idea of taste, talent & technique! Here in the UK Rhydian is a complete joke!
If you really are an "opera singer in training" as you say, you must have some recordings of yourself performing - I would LOVE to hear you sing, why don't you send me a clip??????
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I don't have to like Rhydian's technique to like his voice. There are extreme few popera singers that I would wish to emulate their technique, but I can enjoy their voice in spite of it and their varied repertoire. I am not majoring in music, but I am taking private lessons from a professor of music. When I find the time in my hectic schedule, I will gladly post a video and send it to you. I haven't posted any because I have no time and I'm not finished with my training.
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I also like Rhydian and I personally think you are being rude with your comment about him.
I am from UK and definitely he is not a joke here, I would say quite opposite, he is very respected, the best young singer of our country. Very charismatic as well!
@BlushBabyBlushBaby Joke?? You must live in a different UK to me as Rhydian is doing very well indeed. 1st album sold double platinum, 2nd album nominated Best Album Classical Brits Awards, soon he starts touring with War of the World, followed by We Will Rock You - not to mention his sold out tour & many other gigs UK wide. He performed at the Ryder Cup opening ceremony and also Rugby League Grand Final yesterday. Btw I love Charlotte too - they sang wonderfully well together last Xmas.
@BlushBabyBlushBaby Actually, I knew a 13 year old bass (His voice changed when he was 12) who had far superior technique and training than Church had at 14. Also, I never heard him sing anything that was age inappropriate. This aria is very age inappropriate for Church at 14. The character in Faust who sings this aria has an affair and ends up in prison for killing her mother and baby.
I don´t think it´s a only question of technique. It´s mentality. Taste. It´s everything. Blahblah music- (great definition!)- cannot be heard and performed without harming your taste and ears...
Poor lass. No idea. No technique. I guess we should all be glad, for the sake of her own voice, that she has chucked in the idea of singing opera and is now concentrating on blahblah music. Much less relentless on the technique!
i think it hurts young singers when they try to do repertoir before they're ready. she has potential, and there are a few notes that atually sound good, but she needs to learn her technique and then she can sing this stuff...
I think you are not objective but rather subjective. This of her young age, think of her talent, think of how many girls could have sang the song so well! C'mmon! Let's acknowledge Charlotte Church potential! :)
It's not horrible. She has not such mature voice as Anna Moffo or Angela Gheorghiu, and I agree that she wasn't mature enough to sing this Aria.
BUT - it's one thing in this piece which took my heart - this pure, little "ha!" in the very beginning of the song. Listen to just this one sound. Isn't it purer and greater than the way other singers does that?
Okay, I will say I was having a bad day, so I was a little more harsh than I meant to be. However, there are elements of her technique that need work, and maturation before she should be singing these arias. There is a lot of air leaking and she straight tones a large portion of the piece. Neither of which are appropriate to the genre. Yes, she's 14, but she shouldn't be singing this yet. It's a sweet voice, but not right for this, at least not yet.
Totally agree. And I'd add that Marguerite is in no way a soubrette voice part. And her voice is highly doctored by the studio recording : how many takes to achieve this ? She doesn't have this steadiness of line live. And it is sung like the phone book. No soul, no understanding of the psychology of the character; only angelic golden thread of sound. This is not enough to make an opera singer.
she sings this like a pop song:)) Musicality=0, voice far too young.
Serinia4melodic 1 month ago
No disrespect meant, but what are you supposed to compare this to? If you compare it to opera, it's below amateur level. And the voice isn't that good.
1brewski2 1 month ago
Such a wonderful masterpiece of classical music <3<3<3
francocorelli02 1 month ago
Pretty bad, IMO. Curiousity would be the only reason to listen to it. I have to hear more of her more recent work.
1brewski2 3 months ago
This song is sung well for someone with her skill level. I posted before that the emotional level of this song i beyond her, and I suppose I should better word what I meant by that statement. Opera, when sung by a more mature voice, one that is seasoned and understands the meaning behind what is being sung, carries emotion in it, letting you feel what the character feels, even if the language is not understood. While the song is not the most complex emotion wise, her voice is blank of emotion.
twoanimesisters 9 months ago
This aria it's not complete...! why should she sing it uncomplete? And... she is singing as a mezzo now... too many rare thigs... anyway, she is lovely and had a lovely voice as a child...
CarlaUY 10 months ago
OH THIS IS WHAT THAT SONG SOUNDS LIKE!!! I'm a big Tintin fan, and the character the Castifiore sings this song all the time. lol just as I imagined, overly operatic in every way.
shmeshmoo 1 year ago
Hey everybody, shut the fuck up and either listen to the song or leave the page.
magshatesvegans 1 year ago 2
Horrible
callastoujours 1 year ago
She's to young to understand the words. I'm glad she attemped this, therefore to critic her is wrong because her management is trying to keep something alive. They are ruining her voice attempting to much to soon.
MrFalconford 1 year ago
@FlowerSings in an attempt to sound condescending, you missed the point. She's not nor was she ever a lyric sop. That is not her voice part.
theqoe 1 year ago
there is nothing rong with rhydian hes a great artist and perfromer
people shouldnt throw accusations around unless they know the facts first.
MegaBeckyd 1 year ago
Charlotte was only 13 when this album came out. She was only a child and she had a treble voice. That's why she didn't have color,tessitura and pitch of an adult opera singer, and that's why she is a soprano.Now charlotte is a mezzosoprano.
thesunlessway 1 year ago
Yeah man, this SUCKS!
stingabe 1 year ago
Ten thousand thundering typhoons!
johnbleroy 1 year ago
Think she could sing underwater and take no notice of so called experts with ears full of wax.
Schnappi1936 1 year ago
Wait, where is the trill? It's the most important part of this aria for me.
gabriellecorinne 1 year ago
@gabriellecorinne She probably had no idea how to properly produce a trill. She said she didn't want formal training.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
lol if i try singing this song i be tongue tied
sweetcupcake34 2 years ago
She was 13 not 14...
thesunlessway 2 years ago
i wonder why no one ever told her to stop singing opera for the sake of her long term voice...hmm...oops..
dreamcritic 2 years ago
@dreamcritic Yes, she was way too young to sing this. People probably did tell her to stop singing opera for the sake of her longterm voice, but I also think that Charlotte and/or her parents and managers wanted to make as much money off her as possible. Also, Church has stated that she never wanted any formal training, so the lack of voice teachers teaching her proper technique has hurt her voice and career.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 ...she's never had training...??? oh well that explains a lot.
dreamcritic 1 year ago
@dreamcritic Doesn't it though. :-)
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 what complete and utter tripe! I don't know where you get your information from but you are completely wrong. Charlotte has in fact had a voice coach for 12 years since the age of 9. Her name is Louise Ryan and she is credited on Charlotte's albums along with Tina Ruta who is a very respected vocal/language coach - in addition Charlotte had the full support and experience of the Sony Classical team who I am sure know a thing or two about singing.
BlushBabyBlushBaby 1 year ago
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I'm sorry, but I still don't like Ms. Church's voice or technique. I'm afraid I'll never change my mind. But the, there are professional opera singers whose voices and technique I don't like. We don't all have to agree on evrything. No hard feelings. :-)
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@BlushBabyBlushBaby It doesn't sound to me like you've have had any vocal training or education to be criticizing someone who is more knowledgeable than yourself. It's important to do your research before you discount someone's critique. I am a big fan of Charlotte's voice, but I agree with arpeggio that her technique is lacking. I am training in opera and that's not how you breathe.
flowersings 1 year ago
@flowersings what an utterly ridiculous comment - I wonder why you bothered. Only an idiot would think that they could deduce whether or not I have had any vocal training simply by reading a comment I make on Youtube. I am in fact a classically trained opera singer and have performed professionally for many years. It is also very clear that I know a greal deal about Charlotte's background and career but feel free to check the facts I have stated about her for credibility.
BlushBabyBlushBaby 1 year ago
Several people here have stated that Charlotte has never had any vocal training whatsoever - one of whom was arpeggio1358. I have merely informed them that Charlotte has in fact had a significant amount of vocal training - fact. You suggested that I do my research before rubbishing other people's critique - another ridiculous comment - it is you who has not done your research about Charlotte - and it shows.
BlushBabyBlushBaby 1 year ago
I listened to the video you sent me - I don't know the girl but I can tell you that the audio quality is nowhere good enough to study her breathing or technique.
BlushBabyBlushBaby 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 She never wanted formal training?!? And she's trying to sing opera?! She's crazy!!
Hausisse 1 year ago
@Hausisse i have since been informed that Ms Church has had formal training. Even though I risk the wrath of her fans, I still can't say that I admire her technique.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 I agree, haha. I guess she's not bad, but definitely not my cup of tea, especially when it comes to opera. So you're not alone. :p
Hausisse 1 year ago
@Hausisse It's so good to know I'm not alone...especially after being beaten up by Church's numberous fans. :-)
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 You're definitely not alone! I dislike her technique as well!!!!
flowersings 1 year ago
@flowersings I've always wondered what she would have sounded like if she had been given all the right training before she began her career. That would have meant delaying the career until she was quite a bit older. The voice might have developed quite differently and without the damage that it has sustained over the years.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 Agreed! I, personally think she might have made a very nice lyric soprano with the correct training and voice protection.
flowersings 1 year ago
@flowersings I think she may well have, but unfortunately it didn't happen.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
No offense. Charlotte took the better road - classical instead of pop. We have to applaud her attempt to "popularize" opera like Sarah Brightman does. But this aria, for me, is not suited for her. Other sopranos like Maria Callas, Anna Moffo, Mirella Freni, Renatta Scotto, Joan Sutherland, Beverly Sills - have fully developed "woman" voices and sing the aria well. Charlotte's voice sounds too child-like and underdeveloped that it might as well be a choir boy singing this.
MastersoftheOpera 2 years ago 5
she has been singing pop for a long time already.
Angeltots 2 years ago
@MastersoftheOpera you tend to forget that Marguerite is exactly that...very young and child-like
sweetaztecangel69 1 year ago
@sweetaztecangel69 No. Marguerite was an adult woman (in the opera she becomes pregnant with Fautst's child)..she is young but still adult. And Charlotte sounds more than "child- like" she actually is a child and sings like a child. The soprano range for the role calls for a fully developed adult soprano voice
MastersoftheOpera 1 year ago
Charlotte is actually a mezzo-sop, and they were forcing lyric soprano songs on her a lot. you can't blame them, b/c those are the song everyone knows. if they gave her songs suited for her voicepart, it would be better appreciated by opera fans, but overlooked by the people who actually bought her music.
theqoe 2 years ago 6
@theqoe A mezzo would never be able to hit that high C so easily. A mezzo would certainly not have been able to sing the laughing song so lightly. Mezzo sopranos don't have light voices like Charlotte. I have never heard a child mezzo soprano in my life. Most start out as lyrics like Charlotte. She was just too young for the aria and didn't have the technique. Mezzos have, heavy deep voices and a very low range. Wikipedia is wrong, any average joe can edit the info on there.
flowersings 1 year ago
She should never have sung this. Fourteen-year old girls don't sing opera arias of this level at their age, they almost always are given art songs, as it's better for developing voices (i.e. singing on the voice, support, keeping breaks out of the voice). It's breathy and off-the-voice singing, and she doesn't have control of the phrasing or legato at all.
MrsLlorca 2 years ago 6
My mother was a music major all through high school and collage. She attended Houston's HSPVA and has always sung around me growing up. If there is one thing she has always told me about singing opera it is that if you do not understand the story, you can not live the song. I agree with her on this. At such a young age as 14 one can not understand the complex emotions behind this song. Further more, while she was very talented for her age, she was no where near ready for this song.
twoanimesisters 2 years ago 15
@twoanimesisters Her producers were certainly out to wow the public and make money off her. I think that's why she sang so many risky songs for her young age.
flowersings 1 year ago
@twoanimesisters that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I daresay that Charlotte Church knows more about what she's doing here than you give her credit for. I'm sure you're an expert in the field of opera, what with your mother being a music major and throwing little jewels of wisdom your way, but to declare that she was nowhere ready for this song is a little ridiculous...
kamelotfan23 1 year ago
@twoanimesisters
Complex emotions...?Are there complex emotions in this song? This, if anything, is a young girl's song! Maybe Marguerite was as young as 15 or 16. Of course, the music is for a mature voice, but the emotions in the song are the excitement of a young girl on receiving a pretty necklace!
thelouisfanclub 9 months ago
pretty good for a 14 year old :O
xXZechiXx 2 years ago
Well, she s just a good choir singer, not more than that.
lacigarrados 2 years ago
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I think she sounds really good! she has such a clear and pretty tone. I think she is better than a lot of professional opera singers today
MsIrishEyes17 2 years ago
@MsIrishEyes17 Respectfully disagree. Although I think that she was very talented, her technique held her back from being great. Her voice doesn't have the color, tessitura, tone, and pitch of seasoned opera singers. She by far does not have the best classical voice, but it was a beautiful one.
flowersings 1 year ago
anyone interested in hearing what a 12 year old Julie Andrews can sing, check out "12 year old Julie Andrews~Polonaise-Mignon. To my ears simply amazing!
cj7849 2 years ago 3
It's a very smothered tone...I guess when you have money and people worshipping you, you can get away with singing anything. But still...ugh. NO.
CatalinaDM56 2 years ago
Diastrous at best ~~not an issue with her age. She perhaps can do something else better, at least commercially~~not opera, be it French or Italian (I had heard her sing O mio babbino caro somewhere, as atrociously).
geraldyang 2 years ago
It's easy to bash Charlotte's choice to sing certain songs so young, however had many of us had a mature voice at her age, we might have also made some wrong repertoire choices. Having said that, Charlotte has a beautiful instrument and sings a lovely rendition. It is not the version of an opera singer, however it is lovely in it's own way
classicgrace 2 years ago 23
I agree with you! And I think that it's also why people who don't know much about real opera found Charlotte so interesting.She has a lovely voice,not a huge trained voice of a mature opera singer but good enough to impress and charm people :)
catchita 2 years ago 4
@classicgrace Not really. She damaged her voice early on with choice or repertoire and bad technique. I sadly fear that jackie Evancho will go the same way. Church shouldn't have been singing opera arias so young. She's off pitch in several places and strained on the top notes. And yes, she has no idea what the aria actually means and was nowhere ready to sing this.
arpeggio1358 2 months ago
R.I.P. GOUNOD
thugman30 2 years ago
@thugman30 LOL. Thank you for saying this!
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
baby nawl! she shouldnt have sung this. A hot mess! thin, wispy, white noise..well maybe i will give her props on her B natural but this is bad!
musoph21 3 years ago
horrible? okay lets not go overboard people!
lightlines109 3 years ago 3
I agree. "Horrible" would be someone who cant sing at all trying to sing this. She can sing. Personally I like this. Someone chose this for her more than likely, so it isnt her fault.
prettygunneryuna 3 years ago 2
This was horrible. I think Per la Gloria would be a better selection for her at this age.
baritonebynight 3 years ago
Horrible you say? She was just a child. I'd like you to show me another 14 yr old that could do a better job. This is a quite a difficult song. It is on the Trinity College LTCL Diploma syllabus (if you care to look it up) which is equivilant to a University Degree. In another subject, say Maths or Science, a child of 14 completing a University Degree would be considered a genius, a prodigy. But you rubbish Charlotte's performance as if it is nothing!
BlushBabyBlushBaby 2 years ago 2
My point is that a 14 year old shouldn't sing this aria. A 14 year old lacks the physical development and lacks the emotional understanding of the character to sing this. She sang too much too soon ...its soo breathy...I can hear the breath escaping and yes...its horrible to listen to. Its appropriate for graduate students and maybe some talented undergraduates...but its not appropriate for her at this age. Rep like this ruined a potentially lovely instrument
baritonebynight 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the reply. I am interested in your comment about breath escaping/so breathy etc - I can't hear this at all and wondered if it is that my speakers are perhaps not as clear as yours. Which parts of the song in particular do you hear this?
BlushBabyBlushBaby 2 years ago
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I think she has a very beautiful voice, but I do know 14 year old's that can do it better. As I said before, her technique is lacking. Just because she can sing an aria, doesn't mean that she is ready. Not to mention how dangerous it is on young vocal chords to attempt something like this, no matter how talented they are.
flowersings 1 year ago
@flowersings The fact that you like Rhydian tells me everything I need to know about your idea of taste, talent & technique! Here in the UK Rhydian is a complete joke!
If you really are an "opera singer in training" as you say, you must have some recordings of yourself performing - I would LOVE to hear you sing, why don't you send me a clip??????
BlushBabyBlushBaby 1 year ago
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I don't have to like Rhydian's technique to like his voice. There are extreme few popera singers that I would wish to emulate their technique, but I can enjoy their voice in spite of it and their varied repertoire. I am not majoring in music, but I am taking private lessons from a professor of music. When I find the time in my hectic schedule, I will gladly post a video and send it to you. I haven't posted any because I have no time and I'm not finished with my training.
flowersings 1 year ago
@BlushBabyBlushBaby I also like Rhydian and I personally think you are being rude with your comment about him.
I am from UK and definitely he is not a joke here, I would say quite opposite, he is very respected, the best young singer of our country. Very charismatic as well!
flyerbiba22 1 year ago
@BlushBabyBlushBaby Joke?? You must live in a different UK to me as Rhydian is doing very well indeed. 1st album sold double platinum, 2nd album nominated Best Album Classical Brits Awards, soon he starts touring with War of the World, followed by We Will Rock You - not to mention his sold out tour & many other gigs UK wide. He performed at the Ryder Cup opening ceremony and also Rugby League Grand Final yesterday. Btw I love Charlotte too - they sang wonderfully well together last Xmas.
nonwatcyn 1 year ago
@BlushBabyBlushBaby Actually, I knew a 13 year old bass (His voice changed when he was 12) who had far superior technique and training than Church had at 14. Also, I never heard him sing anything that was age inappropriate. This aria is very age inappropriate for Church at 14. The character in Faust who sings this aria has an affair and ends up in prison for killing her mother and baby.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
I don´t think it´s a only question of technique. It´s mentality. Taste. It´s everything. Blahblah music- (great definition!)- cannot be heard and performed without harming your taste and ears...
eldarshus 3 years ago
Poor lass. No idea. No technique. I guess we should all be glad, for the sake of her own voice, that she has chucked in the idea of singing opera and is now concentrating on blahblah music. Much less relentless on the technique!
requiemsinger 3 years ago 3
i think it hurts young singers when they try to do repertoir before they're ready. she has potential, and there are a few notes that atually sound good, but she needs to learn her technique and then she can sing this stuff...
andifroggy 3 years ago 4
OMG THIS IS TERRIBLE!!! MY EARS HURT!
Its like when she cant reach the notes her voice start to get a lil airy...its totally out of her range.
karlleo 3 years ago
so sad that they did this to her
SOPRANOGOLD83 3 years ago 4
I think you are not objective but rather subjective. This of her young age, think of her talent, think of how many girls could have sang the song so well! C'mmon! Let's acknowledge Charlotte Church potential! :)
thinktwice4ever 3 years ago
It's not horrible. She has not such mature voice as Anna Moffo or Angela Gheorghiu, and I agree that she wasn't mature enough to sing this Aria.
BUT - it's one thing in this piece which took my heart - this pure, little "ha!" in the very beginning of the song. Listen to just this one sound. Isn't it purer and greater than the way other singers does that?
railiee 3 years ago 2
that was horrible..
musoph21 3 years ago
this is a bed version for my opinion.
if you want to hear a good version by a real opera singer you should listen to Anna moffo or angela Giorgio here in youtube.
sopran21 3 years ago
fromanda is right!
giuseppeotto2002 3 years ago
Flawless? Did you actually listen to it? 'Cause I don't think you did. Otherwise, you would have noted that it is really bad.
fromanda 3 years ago
why do you say that? I think it's beautiful... can you share with me your reasons?
Ocean92Soul 3 years ago 4
Okay, I will say I was having a bad day, so I was a little more harsh than I meant to be. However, there are elements of her technique that need work, and maturation before she should be singing these arias. There is a lot of air leaking and she straight tones a large portion of the piece. Neither of which are appropriate to the genre. Yes, she's 14, but she shouldn't be singing this yet. It's a sweet voice, but not right for this, at least not yet.
fromanda 3 years ago 4
Interesting... are you a singer? I'm studying classical singing, I'm 15 so this kind of criticism helps.
Ocean92Soul 3 years ago 4
Totally agree. And I'd add that Marguerite is in no way a soubrette voice part. And her voice is highly doctored by the studio recording : how many takes to achieve this ? She doesn't have this steadiness of line live. And it is sung like the phone book. No soul, no understanding of the psychology of the character; only angelic golden thread of sound. This is not enough to make an opera singer.
PonselleLover 3 years ago 4
I agree with Fromada. You honestly think this is flawless?! It's completely flat and lifeless. It doesn't have the 'sparkle' aria should have.
Then again, Charlotte Church is the most overrated singer I've ever seen.
RavenSiren 3 years ago 3
Flawless
scobum 4 years ago
Wow! Amazing! It's all I can say! :D
thinktwice4ever 4 years ago