This is ridiculous. It is science but it is a very new and extremely unreliable science. You can't have some amateur guessing at what people are thinking based on some chart they looked at. Even experts make mistakes with this. look it up.
@toasty303 I notice this on other politians such as Putin doing the "elbow" move, i think there is some truth in this but not 100% fact. However is anything ever 100% fact? :P
So you were able to determine that Obama was angry at having someone call him a liar and that those Biden and that women were surprised at a random outburst?
I respect the science, but those weren't microexpressions, were they (I am genuinely curious)? I thought they generally lasted 1/5th of a second, and genuine surprise only stays on the face for about a second.
what about 1.05, Obamas eyebrows do not move, however they look the inner corners of the brow are drawn down. He pulls the corners of his lips back and you see his chin boss become deeper. He might be feeling anger, and this maybe a sign.
Nancy pelosi heard it the first time and Biden caught a bit of it. but I think Obama wasn't aware. His surprise (Obama) is prevalent with his slight smile and the fact he spotted speaking.
@MrHentking Eyes glare? doesn't fit with NO movement in the eyebrows he doesn't show anger he shows Disagreement elbow jab shows he isn't agreeing with the person shouting people always think they can do everything they see in tv shows btw i came out as a natural in the test so im pretty confident that im right
BTW you're one of those who thinks he can see it because you wanna see it but you can't that is totally not anger just disagreement no discussion needed FACTS rely on it
@IAmHoTSHoTzz Lets break this video down. @0:30 She heard Joe Wilson the first time but wasnt sure. She even looks at Biden to see if he heard it @0:33. Then @0:35 Wilson says it again and both are surprised (Biden and Pelosi) The jab is disagreement, I agree with that but you can see his lips get tense. like he holds them back from a smile, pushes his bottom lip up too.
@DubGongTuff He pushes his bottom lip up because he wants to say something dont you think? we'd be a good team :P hahaha no but seriously not anger at all just disagreement. no manipulator but his smile is tensed because that is the manipulating thing
great video. as far as teh lack of surprise. you have to realize he's reciting these speeches so he's deep into what he's reading in a sort of flow. although he did not show anger he show massive contempt with the drop of his hand and his sharp glance.
Facial expressions such as Pelosis at the begging of the video could mean multiple things, Obama was not showing them at the beggening. His arm gesture could have meant he was agitated, as I would be in a situation such as that.
You're an idiot with no understanding of the science of facial expressions. Ekman has said NUMEROUS times that watching microexpressions can ONLY TELL YOU WHAT SOMEONE FEELS, NOT WHY THEY FEEL IT. Also, you could do something crazy and ACTUALLY READ THE BILL instead of misapplying good science. For example, on your freeze frame, Biden's face has already transitioned from surprise to anger, probably due to a feeling that this comment was in poor taste which MAY explain Obama's gesture.
@papageno88 If you think some one has a lack of understanding or needs further education, I see no reason why you can't convey this in a polite and non insulting manner with maturity and humility. Why call some one an idiot?
If you only watch lie to me you won't know that microexpressions don't always leak out. They generally leak out if you're trying to hide how you feel. Obama remained firm and both showed and told Wilson exactly how he felt about it. You don't have to be taking a muscle relaxant to not have a micro expression this was proven by Paul Eckman who actually discovered micro expressions.
In addition to my previous comment, the reason Obama didn't have a microexpression is because he is professionally keeping his expression "to himself." He actually DOES show a hence of anger by clenching his jaw. Obama was trying NOT to match his opponent's (Republican's) anger. He could've played it off like Reagan and told him to shut up... which i still find hilarious
Good video. Although it could've been better without the music. Authentic surprise is only on the face for 1 second. Anything else longer than that is faked. And just because Biden drops his jaw, it doesn't mean surprise. Surprise is raised eyebrows, raised eyelids, POSSIBLY mouth open. Although, I didn't notice his elbow the first time. That was a squelched expression. The squelched expression was a shoulder shrug. If it was an angry elbow jab, Obama would've had an angry expression.
The whole point of studying mico-expressions is that they happen independent of verbal communication. As long as we know the context (which we do thanks to handy captions), there is no need to hear anything to analyze the micro-expressions.
I downloaded this video (not yours) and ran in through on my computer. I don't know the exact moment, but somewhere between 0:14 and 0:15, I saw surprise (mouth open, eyebrows up, eyes wide); then somewhere between 0:15 and 0:16, I most definitely saw anger (eyebrows down, eyes glaring, lips tightened).
I am just running it frame by frame on Windows Media Player; then I played it at .100 speed to confirm my findings. They were congruent over and over again. They are incredibly brief and subtle, but I do believe they are there.
The elbow is sign of get him the %&*# out of here before I elbow him in the face..so to speak...shows (ANGER)!... you can see the quick reaction of the finger pointing.. (ANGER) and last but not least... jaw chinch.. (ANGER).. what do YOU think?
Did you see the most recent episode of Lie To Me? The show used this clip of Obama to explain some microexpression related stuff. You should watch it.
If you think that's cool you should check out the Obama FOX news Bret Bair interview healthcare. He's all over the road on that one. Thank got Bret Bair kept pressing him because you can SEE all of the micro expressions with NO PROBLEM. It's freggin amazing!
I swear the nigga in obama was about to come out! Lol
booksmart96 1 month ago
@lizC888 why? it's classic
RecklessTheory 1 month ago
the anger image you used first looks more like disgust to me.
mrkiky 4 months ago
This is ridiculous. It is science but it is a very new and extremely unreliable science. You can't have some amateur guessing at what people are thinking based on some chart they looked at. Even experts make mistakes with this. look it up.
highvoltuc 7 months ago
the elbow thing could be anything, most likely just trying to adjust his sleeve or something. suits are hella uncomfortable
toasty303 7 months ago
@toasty303 I notice this on other politians such as Putin doing the "elbow" move, i think there is some truth in this but not 100% fact. However is anything ever 100% fact? :P
yoyuepz 5 months ago
So you were able to determine that Obama was angry at having someone call him a liar and that those Biden and that women were surprised at a random outburst?
I respect the science, but those weren't microexpressions, were they (I am genuinely curious)? I thought they generally lasted 1/5th of a second, and genuine surprise only stays on the face for about a second.
munnymike 7 months ago
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What was this speech about?
Jeorney 7 months ago
(pause) now look at his elbow o.O did you fucking see that!? OMG!!
it's sad that the majority of people watching this vid will actually take it seriosly. : /
miasmablk 8 months ago
@miasmablk This is science. Look it up before you talk shit, kid.
20BCeltics 8 months ago
HAHA all of those that you pointed out I noticed in the actual video great job on catching them! :)
20BCeltics 8 months ago
HAHAHA,,, look at the man in the left... at 0:14
silvergl 8 months ago
@silvergl the man in the left... really? you don't know who he is?
ZeroSky 7 months ago
Biden shows anger at the beginnig of the video no? look again
TheAnnag007 8 months ago
the elbow movement is a sign of annoyance. He did not hear what was said just noticed everyone elses response.
sharingon47447 9 months ago
what about 1.05, Obamas eyebrows do not move, however they look the inner corners of the brow are drawn down. He pulls the corners of his lips back and you see his chin boss become deeper. He might be feeling anger, and this maybe a sign.
jonnyBB3B 9 months ago
@jonnyBB3B I will also add just before, he gives a masking smile
jonnyBB3B 9 months ago
When its that big its not a slip... slips are depicted as very obvious on shows like lie to me but are really subtle in real life.
dude00074 9 months ago
Obama did show anger, he did a small chin trust which shows anger.
darkspineshadow134 9 months ago
You have got to be kidding! "Microexpressions". You moonbats really are just throwing shit at walls.
HolyCity2012 9 months ago
Nancy pelosi heard it the first time and Biden caught a bit of it. but I think Obama wasn't aware. His surprise (Obama) is prevalent with his slight smile and the fact he spotted speaking.
DubGongTuff 10 months ago
obama wasn´t surprised because he didn´t hear it. after all he was busy giving a speech....
KCRyder 11 months ago
Would be 10x better without the music
TNFlightNurse 11 months ago 12
@TNFlightNurse why? don't like reggae?
RecklessTheory 1 month ago
good job, keep it up. cheers.
zay21ful 11 months ago
@1:04 im sure that he showed anger here,look at how his eyes glare to the person who shouts.Eyes glare + elbow jab=pure anger.
MrHentking 11 months ago 3
@MrHentking Eyes glare? doesn't fit with NO movement in the eyebrows he doesn't show anger he shows Disagreement elbow jab shows he isn't agreeing with the person shouting people always think they can do everything they see in tv shows btw i came out as a natural in the test so im pretty confident that im right
BTW you're one of those who thinks he can see it because you wanna see it but you can't that is totally not anger just disagreement no discussion needed FACTS rely on it
IAmHoTSHoTzz 10 months ago
@IAmHoTSHoTzz Lets break this video down. @0:30 She heard Joe Wilson the first time but wasnt sure. She even looks at Biden to see if he heard it @0:33. Then @0:35 Wilson says it again and both are surprised (Biden and Pelosi) The jab is disagreement, I agree with that but you can see his lips get tense. like he holds them back from a smile, pushes his bottom lip up too.
DubGongTuff 10 months ago
@DubGongTuff Eyebrows will have to move it doesn't move nothing happens and yes i totally agree with you too
IAmHoTSHoTzz 10 months ago
@DubGongTuff He pushes his bottom lip up because he wants to say something dont you think? we'd be a good team :P hahaha no but seriously not anger at all just disagreement. no manipulator but his smile is tensed because that is the manipulating thing
IAmHoTSHoTzz 10 months ago
great video. as far as teh lack of surprise. you have to realize he's reciting these speeches so he's deep into what he's reading in a sort of flow. although he did not show anger he show massive contempt with the drop of his hand and his sharp glance.
2low2rl 1 year ago
Maybe Obama is just the Lando Calrissian of Presidents...
Steamrunner92 1 year ago
Redneck rage is at it again. Dislike.
MidnightSundowns 1 year ago
1:05 is an elbow shrug, whatever he said that moment, was in reverse in what he was feeling when he said it
MyKen54 1 year ago
i knew it was surprise
MyKen54 1 year ago
5 people lied
MyKen54 1 year ago
contempt 0:09
MyKen54 1 year ago
I found that the added music is louder than the actual speech.
Medech2012 1 year ago
you can tell the feelings through the microexpressions,but not why they feel that way.We'll never know.
PopcornWithPorn 1 year ago
Thank you for posting this.
VoteforJimJepson 1 year ago
you missed Biden's chin jab in the beginning
rhythmonsta 1 year ago 2
@rhythmonsta i saw that too; i was wondering why they didnt bring that up.
missoliviajean1 1 year ago
est-ce quelqu'un sait qui est le chanteur de la bande son ?
TELEFFICIENCE 1 year ago
Facial expressions such as Pelosis at the begging of the video could mean multiple things, Obama was not showing them at the beggening. His arm gesture could have meant he was agitated, as I would be in a situation such as that.
dalhar20 1 year ago
I think you were most likely biased and so this is more an example of confirmation bias, than a genuine interpretation of microexpressions
ChristelB88 1 year ago
Not exactly correct but you are thinking and observing, and that's a good thing
Andrewvw100 1 year ago
This is a poor representation of micro-expressions.
KuuMeKuuChah 1 year ago
Please come back after you've done your post-graduate work in psychology. Oh, and when you have the slightest understanding of politics at all.
papageno88 1 year ago
You're an idiot with no understanding of the science of facial expressions. Ekman has said NUMEROUS times that watching microexpressions can ONLY TELL YOU WHAT SOMEONE FEELS, NOT WHY THEY FEEL IT. Also, you could do something crazy and ACTUALLY READ THE BILL instead of misapplying good science. For example, on your freeze frame, Biden's face has already transitioned from surprise to anger, probably due to a feeling that this comment was in poor taste which MAY explain Obama's gesture.
papageno88 1 year ago
@papageno88 If you think some one has a lack of understanding or needs further education, I see no reason why you can't convey this in a polite and non insulting manner with maturity and humility. Why call some one an idiot?
Nenyana 1 year ago 2
@AtheistGuy2 No one said anything about being an expert.........
Nenyana 1 year ago
If you only watch lie to me you won't know that microexpressions don't always leak out. They generally leak out if you're trying to hide how you feel. Obama remained firm and both showed and told Wilson exactly how he felt about it. You don't have to be taking a muscle relaxant to not have a micro expression this was proven by Paul Eckman who actually discovered micro expressions.
Norgano 1 year ago
@Norgano Ekman didn't discover microexpressions, he is just the most famous face linked with microexpressions.
Hobbzie02 1 year ago
Obama did have a microexpression. He was saying "come on...." with his face, and with his elbow, annoyance.
spartacandream 1 year ago
Biden is nervous
spartacandream 1 year ago
Looks like anger from Obama. I would be angry too.
BrooklynRagtag 1 year ago
@BrooklynRagtag The american people are angry he lied to their face
spartacandream 1 year ago
What's with the Savannah Guthrie subliminal around 1:03-1:07?
KevNiiice 1 year ago
In addition to my previous comment, the reason Obama didn't have a microexpression is because he is professionally keeping his expression "to himself." He actually DOES show a hence of anger by clenching his jaw. Obama was trying NOT to match his opponent's (Republican's) anger. He could've played it off like Reagan and told him to shut up... which i still find hilarious
IndianaBones519 1 year ago
I love all of these videos where people think they are deception experts. There is far more to it than this, people.
hrhadam 1 year ago
Good video. Although it could've been better without the music. Authentic surprise is only on the face for 1 second. Anything else longer than that is faked. And just because Biden drops his jaw, it doesn't mean surprise. Surprise is raised eyebrows, raised eyelids, POSSIBLY mouth open. Although, I didn't notice his elbow the first time. That was a squelched expression. The squelched expression was a shoulder shrug. If it was an angry elbow jab, Obama would've had an angry expression.
IndianaBones519 1 year ago
the man at the obamas left moves his chin to the front to fast thats ANGER to - i learn for lie to me
dangergames 1 year ago
8 Seconds in the guy on the left thrusts his chin.
myg0tpurepunk 1 year ago
@AtheistGuy2
The poster didn't say anyone was lying. He just pointed it out and listed some possible causes.
PowerOfNight88 1 year ago
WHY IS THAT STUPID RETARDED NEED TO ADD MUSIC TO VIDEOS WHERE THE ORIGINAL AUDIO IS RELEVANT >>>>>>>>>????? YOU DUMB AMERICAN IDIOTS!!!!!!
16XDVDLaserDiode 1 year ago
@16XDVDLaserDiode
The whole point of studying mico-expressions is that they happen independent of verbal communication. As long as we know the context (which we do thanks to handy captions), there is no need to hear anything to analyze the micro-expressions.
PowerOfNight88 1 year ago
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I downloaded this video (not yours) and ran in through on my computer. I don't know the exact moment, but somewhere between 0:14 and 0:15, I saw surprise (mouth open, eyebrows up, eyes wide); then somewhere between 0:15 and 0:16, I most definitely saw anger (eyebrows down, eyes glaring, lips tightened).
NextDesignerChef 1 year ago
I am just running it frame by frame on Windows Media Player; then I played it at .100 speed to confirm my findings. They were congruent over and over again. They are incredibly brief and subtle, but I do believe they are there.
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NextDesignerChef 1 year ago
The elbow is sign of get him the %&*# out of here before I elbow him in the face..so to speak...shows (ANGER)!... you can see the quick reaction of the finger pointing.. (ANGER) and last but not least... jaw chinch.. (ANGER).. what do YOU think?
ArmyThug519 1 year ago
Did you see the most recent episode of Lie To Me? The show used this clip of Obama to explain some microexpression related stuff. You should watch it.
sahil1208 1 year ago
nice vid, u should go into deeper detail as these descriptions are almost straight off lie to me, very vague.
but it's a good start, and I'm glad to see a video up like this!
kliao93 1 year ago
Do more like these!!! MOooorree
ninashtia 1 year ago
If you think that's cool you should check out the Obama FOX news Bret Bair interview healthcare. He's all over the road on that one. Thank got Bret Bair kept pressing him because you can SEE all of the micro expressions with NO PROBLEM. It's freggin amazing!
Milesdavis2998 1 year ago
seriously, this is what disturbs me most about watching these speeches. biden and pelosi seem sooooo disturbed. Good vid.
therobanata 1 year ago