Nightforce 1000 Yard Velocity Reticle

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Horus Vision scopes

Raptor™4-16x50 with an H25 Reticle

[CHOPERUS23]

Just like the MTC Reticle and the MTC is considerably cheaper

[bo4arrow]

@1LONEPUMA @RDSII64 the difference between front and rear focal planes is simple.

Front focal plane: no matter what magnification you use the ticks in the cross airs will not move.

Rear focal plane: if you zoom in and out you will the ticks in the cross airs move against the terrian.

for a better explanation google "front focal plane vs rear" the first link will be to leupold FAQ

[1LonePuma]

What if your shooting around 1200 yards, what then, you've run out of hash marks for those long distance Antelope shots! Bummer! :-(

[rdsii64]

@1LonePuma You do realize that you have enough elevation in that optic to dial past 1200 yards. Especially if your rifle is chambered for a cartridge that shoots flat enough for hunting at those kinds of ranges.

[1LonePuma]

@rdsii64: That is reassuring; however, we're still trying to figure out if it's a Front or Rear Focal Plane?

It's makes all the difference. 1200 yards for a .270 is plenty adequate.

Appreciate your input.

[rdsii64]

@1LonePuma I really doubt that scope has a second focal plane reticle in it. If memory serves me correctly the only second focal plane scopes made by Nightforce are made for specifically for competition bench rest shooting. To be sure, If you can get to a stocking dealer, look through one. When you change the power if the reticle changes too, its front focal plane. This means the sub tensions are the same at all powers.

[1LonePuma]

@rdsii64: So is it a Front focal plane or rear? It does make a difference when changing its magnification. A scope with a Front Focal Plane, its reticle changes along with the target, making it more accurate, which is never disclosed.

[rdsii64]

@1LonePuma It doesn't make it more accurate. It only keeps the angular subtensions the same through out the magnification range. I would be willing to bet my beer money that scope is a front focal plane. Unless I am wrong, both the F1 serries and the NXS series scopes are all front focal plane. The only nightforce scope that are not Front focal plane is a bench rest scope. You cannot get the Velocity reticle in their benchrest scope.

You will be fine with this scope.

[1LonePuma]

@rdsii64: Don't be so eager to bet away your beer money. You can find these things out for yourself even on YouTube. To say it doesn't matter is to say your unfamiliar with Front and Rear focal planes. Leupold even knows this. But don't take my word, investigate it for yourself. I have no reason to lie about something as important as accurate shooting. I only have a 3.5X10x40 and with a Front Focal plane and I'm putting bullets inside bullet holes, as others are doing. There in is the difference

[rdsii64]

@1LonePuma To say that your 3.5-10x40 is accurate because its front focal plan implies that a fixed power scope would be less accurate. Your optic is accurate because it has good glass, the reticle isn't canted,

and your adjustment are precise and true to standard. Did you know that competition F-class and long range bench rest shooters hate front focal plane scopes? Its because at 1000 yards the cross hair would blot out the x ring.

[1LonePuma]

@rdsii64: Yeah, and deep sea divers need to have their own oxygen to breath. I would have hoped you knew how to stay on point. I guess that was asking too much. Comparing apples to oranges just wasn't what I was talking about, but that's okay son--eventually you'll get it...kids!

[rdsii64]

@1LonePuma I'm not sure where you are going with your latest round in this conversation. Maybe I am not choosing my words correctly. In any respect putting the reticle in the front focal plane doesn't make a scope more accurate. It keeps the sub tensions the same through out the adjustment range. If you disagree, please provide an accurate explanation of how placing the reticle in the front focal plane makes a rifle scope more accurate.

[rdsii64]

@1LonePuma perhaps you are confusing the ability to range a target at any magnification vs. ranging only at only one specific magnification with accuracy. If you are not ranging targets or calculating hold over with your reticle (which is an estimation anyway) a front focal plane doesn't nothing for you. If You think I am wrong please provide an accurate explanation.

[1LonePuma]

@rdsii64: I'm not confused on what I'm referring to, but to help you understand more about the front and rear focal plane, call Leupold and they will explain the difference and why so many choose the Front Focal Plane for long range shooting, without going to target scopes. There was a video explaining it, but spending an hour plus to locate it, I was unable to find it still. But call Leupold's customer's service department and they will be glad to explain it to you.

Best regards

[freestylmx311]

@1LonePuma

I dont know anything about scopes but what I can tell is that RDSII64 does and you got upset that he ended up knowing as much if not more than you lol

[1LonePuma]

I'd have to give this video a rating 60%, being incomplete. What about using the ranging system to acquire distance? The video's on NightForce's website don't seem to address their own specialties, more incompleteness. They do say its accuracy is around 1/4" on target, but never disclose distance to target, isn't that covenant...a hardy lol. They also talk about the etched glass, but never saying front or rear focal plane, so there's room for improvements on your videos. We enjoy details.

[danthman114]

out to a thousand? with which round? and which weather condition? at which altitude?

[JAWZOZ]

NF is an Australian company and only some of the NF scopes are made in the US.

I have 3 of them and they are awesome



[rdsii64]

That's a pretty sick reticle. Now all I need is a rifle scope MADE IN AMERICA that doesn't cost a grand. Don't get me wrong. I love nightforce optics. They are made here and they just plain work. The viper PST as good as it is, is made off shore. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND AN AMERICAN MADE OPTIC WITH A 3 DIGIT PRICE TAG

[1LonePuma]

@rdsii64: I think your sick. Try being informed instead of just opinionated...lmho!

See if you understand the difference between a rear focal plane opposed to a front focal plane and why one is better then the other. It makes all the difference in accuracy when using these types of reticles, Mil-Dot

Kindly said

[rdsii64]

@1LonePuma I think you misread my comment. Everyone who understands optics knows that Nightforce optics are amount the best in the business. My "sick reticle" comment was a complement. I am well aware of the difference between a front and rear focal plane. I have spent a lot of time behind a precision rifle. I simply asked why an optics company HERE IN AMRERICA that EMPLOYE AMERICANS can't make an decent optic that doesn't cost 2000 dollars.