oh yeah, high voltage is when you start getting into the thousands of volts ... if you are only using 70ish volts, that's still low voltage brute force electrolysis ... so the normal rules apply ... as you get up into the thousands of volts, there are some new rules ...
have fun with it, but play safe ... if properly constructed, your device could make as much as 4 lpm of gas ... make a hell of a nice torch ... that much gas can bite you in the ass if you are not careful ... safety first ...
Yeah , I should have said it different , when i was saying high voltage I was meaning more than 12v dc, I'll have video of the cell put together up tonight maybe, and yes I am very safe with this stuff,I have seen what it can do
this will work quite well ... the original Tero Ranta type devices only had a single hole at the top, and a single hose from the reservoir/bubbler that both fed fluid and exhausted gas ... it worked well and was quite efficient ... but they give off gas with a pulsing action I found objectionable ... which is why I went to the lower hole and tried pumping fluid through it ... but you may be surprised at how well this works ...
i was looking at the plats i do not know if it is the reflection or they are not perfectly flat ,be careful if they are not flat you will have enegy and production loss in your unit .
najman100 is correct ... you really do need to have your steel laying flat ... consistent spacing is critical to good efficiency ... do you have a way to press those plated flat ??? it would help your efficiency at lot if you did ...
try to drill the hole fare left so you can alternate them one left and you flip the other so it will be on the right and when you drill make sure that the drill size match a grommet that you can fit in the holes for more electrical insulation
tried that ... did not help efficiency ... the current leakage in these designs appears to be from one side of a neutral plate to its own other side through the hole instead of the electrolyte ... so alternating the holes don't help ... but a piece of slit tubing run down the length of the hole helps a lot ...
so with my cell voltage regulator i can do this :+--++--++--++--++--++--++--++--++--+ with 2 volts so no neutrals but in this config you see that the - side nwill produce from one side only
I am not sure what advantage the connection scheme you describe would have over a simpler +-+-+- setup ... and if you have enough surface area, and were able to hit it with enough amps at 2v, such an array can be very efficient and produce a lot of gas ... problem is finding a 2v power source that can provide 1000 amps ... with the power sources available to me, I need those neutral plates to give me the drop in voltage required to keep it efficient ...
I did take a look at your voltage regulator build and that is a very intriguing idea ... hope you post a follow up and discuss the pros/cons ... want to see that one in action ... a number of folks have discussed this as a possibility, but yours is the first attempt at actually doing it, I have seen ... so let us know how it works out for you ...
where can i find the gasket
tanahiro26 3 years ago
i am using neoprene rubber 1/16" I got mine off ebay
jdcmusicman 3 years ago
yesterday i received my dry cell parts 8x8x36plates i hope i will finish assembly on time for this weekend so i can post some results .
najman100 3 years ago
oh yeah, high voltage is when you start getting into the thousands of volts ... if you are only using 70ish volts, that's still low voltage brute force electrolysis ... so the normal rules apply ... as you get up into the thousands of volts, there are some new rules ...
have fun with it, but play safe ... if properly constructed, your device could make as much as 4 lpm of gas ... make a hell of a nice torch ... that much gas can bite you in the ass if you are not careful ... safety first ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Yeah , I should have said it different , when i was saying high voltage I was meaning more than 12v dc, I'll have video of the cell put together up tonight maybe, and yes I am very safe with this stuff,I have seen what it can do
jdcmusicman 3 years ago
this will work quite well ... the original Tero Ranta type devices only had a single hole at the top, and a single hose from the reservoir/bubbler that both fed fluid and exhausted gas ... it worked well and was quite efficient ... but they give off gas with a pulsing action I found objectionable ... which is why I went to the lower hole and tried pumping fluid through it ... but you may be surprised at how well this works ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
i was looking at the plats i do not know if it is the reflection or they are not perfectly flat ,be careful if they are not flat you will have enegy and production loss in your unit .
najman100 3 years ago
najman100 is correct ... you really do need to have your steel laying flat ... consistent spacing is critical to good efficiency ... do you have a way to press those plated flat ??? it would help your efficiency at lot if you did ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
yes i made sure the plates were flat,I done a little doctoring on a few of them after this video
jdcmusicman 3 years ago
try to drill the hole fare left so you can alternate them one left and you flip the other so it will be on the right and when you drill make sure that the drill size match a grommet that you can fit in the holes for more electrical insulation
najman100 3 years ago
tried that ... did not help efficiency ... the current leakage in these designs appears to be from one side of a neutral plate to its own other side through the hole instead of the electrolyte ... so alternating the holes don't help ... but a piece of slit tubing run down the length of the hole helps a lot ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
so with my cell voltage regulator i can do this :+--++--++--++--++--++--++--++--++--+ with 2 volts so no neutrals but in this config you see that the - side nwill produce from one side only
najman100 3 years ago
I am not sure what advantage the connection scheme you describe would have over a simpler +-+-+- setup ... and if you have enough surface area, and were able to hit it with enough amps at 2v, such an array can be very efficient and produce a lot of gas ... problem is finding a 2v power source that can provide 1000 amps ... with the power sources available to me, I need those neutral plates to give me the drop in voltage required to keep it efficient ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
I did take a look at your voltage regulator build and that is a very intriguing idea ... hope you post a follow up and discuss the pros/cons ... want to see that one in action ... a number of folks have discussed this as a possibility, but yours is the first attempt at actually doing it, I have seen ... so let us know how it works out for you ...
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago