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  • I came here after watching breaking. Bad

  • This video hasnt helped me with what not to do.

  • always remember, kids: only users lose drugs.....

  • @theurge can't wait for the next season!

  • stay out of heisenberg's territory...

  • isn't exactly walt white is he?

  • The government needs to provide a place where this can be done safely so people don't lose their houses.

  • Check your Math. You are supposed to add 1 ml, not 100 ml.

  • Exquisite Darwinian evolution at it's finest! The removal of the world's most lazy, stupid, life-wrecking parasites from the gene pool!

  • @graemegr Not quite, you're forgetting that basically anyone within a certain proximity to an exploding meth lab will be killed as well, regardless of who they are.

  • @Alf90100 Yes, sadly there are innocent victims - often young children - which adds credence to the 'life-wrecker' and 'stupid' tags.

    Meth cooks and meth peddlers are the biggest assholes that ever walked this earth.

  • @graemegr a big, long piss in the gene pool....

  • I guarantee you he forgot the aluminum.....guarantee you.

  • lol funny when i read the ether comments

  • don't add ether ffs

  • dude thats funny as hell XD

  • Too much heat + ether = that shit.

  • 50 DKP MINUS WOW WAY TO FAIL

  • lol why did they add the ether!!!

  • how about just dont make it at all lol

  • lol

  • So I guess in Nebraska a mason jar of coleman's fuel can ignite without flame? lol I also guess in Nebraska a jar of accelerant can produce an explosion capable of blowing out the entire side of a house?

    The media lieing to people pisses me off. Meth isn't a good thing but if it was as horrible as these idiots try to portray no one would ever do it in the first place. lol

  • you never hear about a grow op exploding.

  • Only in Nebraska

  • Fuck weed and all that soft shit, Meth is the best fucking high ever.

  • this is as stupid as the squirrel 'above the influence' commercial..

  • Is this a fucking joke?

    The problem is tone deaf advertisements that look even more ridiculous when you're cracked out.

  • Looks that that ether was waaaayyyy choke full of peroxides or it wasn't stabilized :O those guys shoulda distilled it betta and kept dat shit in a opaque bottle with copper or iron wire. (Either that or daddy and mommy shoulda got a degree in Chemistry first lol).

  • @ClitMuthafuckinMASTA lmfao, you take meth too seriously :p

  • That house looks WAY too nice to be a meth lab... :P

  • Aw the pretty white girls got burned.

  • @bluemountaindrivepae creepy ass black rapist

  • EPIC FAIL!!! These guys are the laughing stalk of the Anti drug community get some new material. Only stupid people blow themselves up or start fires, and who would set up a lab in the kitchen knowing that people who will catch them are in and out of the house.

  • Why the fuck would they add the ether, you're supposed to put the crushed pseudoephedrine into the ether.

    Dudewat.

  • hahahahahaha, you need to make better ads

  • shouldnt have added it so damn fast.

  • Haha i love the internet, people are so brutally honest. You two cracked me up instead of saying "thats bad" like most people do you two said "nono, your doing it wrong" haha fck yeah

  • HAHAHA!!! I didn't see any open flame there though, theres no reason for that ether to have ignited. The guys high pitched voice musta vibrated the ether molecules enough to ignite them.

  • Damn I live in Omaha and this shit olny happens in council bluffs Iowa biggggg ass meth town forreal I'm talkin crazy money around gacked out mofos

  • wtf. I thought it was a joke until the end.

  • im sorry but as soon as the it blew up i was cracking up laughing

  • Nice that smelling meth is enough for law enforcement to take action in Nebraska. I've got what seems to be a meth factory operating 1 flr. below who appear to be making it in small amounts so as to not arouse too much suspicion (they're wholesalers). I seem to be the only one effected by their choking fumes so calls & letters to police, FD, health dept., buildings dept. & mayor's office have yielded a big fat 0. I guess they'll show up after the explosion/fire.

  • @mmedefarge

    Stop being a pussy, if you want the people below you to stop be a man and inform them they're infringing upon your rights face to face. You cowards and your police forces are so pathetic. lol 

  • @ParallelDynasty On what planet do YOU reside? These brain-fried career druggies could care less what anyone thinks. They even invited the DEA agent in to check their apartment, they're so dementedly confident. (They have a false wall in the bathroom where they cook their meth). Not having a warrant (yet) the agents could not take down the phoney wall which hides a deep window which can plainly be seen from the outside. p.s. I'm a woman - & you kid, don't know what you're talking about.

  • I thought you used the eather on the daughters lil friend. (the girl)

  • america is the most comunist country in the world.No cuba is the first and north corea and sec is usa!and know that,the MEDIA WILL FUCKING KILL YOUR COUNTRY ONE DAY MY FRIEND!The drugs are not bad,the guns are not bad, just the ppl are crazzy and bad!how decide the alchool is not bad?????i really wanna fucking now!!!HEY FOR RESPONSIBLE WEED CONSUME!LONG LIVE THE EUROPE!!!

  • now i know not to add ether

  • Use Dichloromethane

    seriously meth labs almost never explode

  • R-O-R'

  • 17 people have added the ether.

  • lol what not to when making meth... uh make meth?

  • haha

  • LMAO, hey kids we're just in here making meth dont mind us

  • is this real? I cant tell

  • @CarlSchote1

    Noo. Ether doesn't explode just from looking at it. You do need some source ignition.

  • @mewrox99 not true; ether once opened can form explosive peroxides. most meth labs are not well kept enough to reliably store ether.

  • @zaphraud

    Most commercial ether contain inhibitors such as BHT to inhibit diethylether hydroperoxide formation. You have to leave ether out for a long time to get peroxides if inhibited

  • @mewrox99 true that, but, some people cant get commercial ether and some have been known to attempt solvent recovery, which creates the problem in cases where they don't add back any inhibitors..

    Really though, I wasn't trying to comment on the actual likelyhood of this happening in a real, quality lab (illicit or otherwise). Instead, consider.. a typical strung-out meth head could blow up a lawnmower trying to refuel it, so its little wonder accidents happen in a 'lab'!

  • was that a man or a woman saying "let's add the ether."? It looked like a man, but sounded like a chick.

  • Plants CAN'T explode :-D

  • @Damatelon NEXT TIME YOU GET BUDD CHECK IT UNDER A MICROSCOPE AND I BET YOU SEE LIL BUGS ON YOUR WEED  LOLZZZZ

  • @djparnate

    I see Bugs, after i toasted the weed im my Bong^^

  • DUN DUN DUHHHHH. Their fuckin fault for making it in their home, ever hear of a warehouse or shed or fuckin something.. xD

  • thats normal in white trash states

  • FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T ADD THE ETHER!

  • Dad Im home with my friends, ok Im just casually making meth in here with my friend

  • @mryjn420090 luhmao

  • What kinda of tweaker wouldnt have heard them coming

  • @coralsnake8777 lmao!...from a block away : )

  • well, there you go. If you use meth, your house will explode.

  • this reminds me of sundays at my house.

  • @QuantumQuacks lol? where i come from that hedge would have been gone the next day ;) (no not cause of police but cause someone else would like that weed to^^)

  • lmao give me a friking break.

    obvious propaganda is obvious^^

  • u can make anhydrous amonia with cold pack pellets a gas can water and a bag of lye from the hardware store.fish tank hose a large ball jar and anoth bigger cup.u sit the ball jar in.then u need propane to keep it cold so it doesnt evaporate as it goes in the jar.add ur battery stripes and crushed pills and wahlah u got a cook

  • no way to re-up now LOL!!!!

  • do you need amonia to make crystal meth.. I was fucked around and now these

    people are feeding it into the paint i use for work. It is a new product they tell us. if one is being framed does that get into your system and is that another way for you to take the fall for something.. because the amonia is in your system?

  • is this the five ocklock free crack giveaway

  • thiss also happens when growing weed.

  • LOAL!

  • I did meth until God showed me a vision: I was taken to an alley by my collar, like a cat is picked up by its mother... by an Angel and shown tweekers (after i checked the alley .. it was the same and the pipe was there just as i saw) .. then i was lifted into the clouds and lowered into a large wide land. People were walking around but had electric skin, like lightening. Spiritual bodies. One of them touched me and the FIRE caught me. I said Jesus and was removed from HELL-STOP USING NOW!

  • @JesusgavemeHolySpiri i dont think it was god that showed you that vision

  • @JesusgavemeHolySpiri no way this vision could have been onset by meth usage or the lack thereof.. no way

  • Lesson learned: don't rush a cook! Do it right every time!

  • "It's just our daughter and her friends, everyone here in Nebraska knows what a meth lab is and what we're doing. Go ahead and add the ether..."

  • what not to do when taking meth: step one: DONT TAKE METH. lol

  • Ether=Fail lol

  • ohh what a pile of crap, the only way your going to blow yourself up with meth is if your stupid enough to do it in a non ventilated room and leave every bottle open including the propane for 10 minutes then ignite it. None of the reactions in meth are explosive. The closest would be the accidental production of phosphine gas which you let build up then ignite. Suppose a lot of idiots make it and do this, but still!!!

  • @nixrate yeah, i have seen some set ups. i think most cooks have been awake for too long and fuck it up a fume cupboard works

  • @nixrate It isn't the ignition of phosphine you have to worry about; it's the fact that you will be DEAD before you can get away from it!

    At least take a college chemistry class before trying to cook this stuff.

  • gay

  • thats what they get for adding the Ether lol

  • @PLHamburger lululululu

  • @PLHamburger Nothing wrong with Ether. Only when its been sitting for years and years. Otherwise Ether is fun! I take a bottle of it home every 2months and it stinks up my house.

    BTW: Do ether outside with a buddy!

  • lol i'm sorry but these commercials with the meth lab explosions make me lmao.

  • dude Pikhal, Tikhal, are 2 of the greatest chemistry books ever published, although i wouldn't prepare and or synthesize most things listed in said books i sure do like knowing that if i really really wanted to i could

  • omaha nebraska, largest using meth city in the world.

  • For every dickhead who feels the need to take personal attacks at me. Listen. I presented the facts. Not even all of them, Read Pikhal, Tikhal, Total Synthesis II, read everything on erowid, and drugs-forums. Also get yourself a book on medical references. Then, since some will say I'm obsessed with just drugs... Get yourself all books for dummies, PhP & Mysql, read over W3Schools, Learn all about validation, xml sockets. Java programming. Basically learn how to make your own social networking

  • Site from scratch. Learn that sites like Myspace, Facebook, etc. Are simple CMS systems modified. A simple installation of SMF forum, with tinyportal and integrated software of all types and modifications for a good developer would only take a few months. And would look better and work faster than myspace and facebook etc. Then once you have 4 years experience with it... Also take up reading physics, bio and organic chemistry, get the periodic table on lockdown, and all the basic formulas.

  • Then also study up metaphysics, come here and explain how to fashion a cheap atomic bomb for 20 grand. Explain to me relativity and the theories of time travel, big bang + big crush, Multiverse theory, and also read the bible over. More than once. Than further educate yourself to realize about half of it is sketchily translated at best. Then take your studies a lot farther and get into quantum physics. As they can explain parts of metaphysics, for those who believe only what they see.

  • Then once you feel you understand all of these subjects enough to debate with me. Stop. Study diverse cultures, know at least a great deal of geography for your own continent. Study politics, read the newspaper every single day. Check the latest products out. Learn how to take your computer apart piece by piece and put back together. Learn how to set up a 3000 gig sata server with dual monitors, and cpanel. Also install ffmpeg, and Mencoder, and learn a great deal about 3d animation.

  • Once you get that far, learn how to manually remove any virus, learn how to code in C++, C, Visual Basic, Client side Java, and learn how to make trojans. Also even though it's outdated learn telnet, and CMD prompt. Then, use Sub7, and make sure you have another computer with windows xp, or older versions, and learn how to use such simple software, and the mirc bots. Learn how to crack, use keygens, keyloggers, learn everything. Also attend schmoocon. And read about past events.

  • And if you can't do all of that, while maintaining the "life" you claim I don't have... just because I've moved on from sleep over's, and shit like that and only chill with fellow bmx riders, or people from work, doesn't mean shit. It's how I choose to live. End of story, I grew up. But until you have half as much knowledge as me. Basically, go fuck yourself, as anything but an intelligent response is you wasting your time. I know who I am, I know what I do. Your feeble attempts annoy me.

  • ur gay.

  • @crazykidcapa

    Wow that is some pretty epic tantrum you threw there.

  • Not a tantrum at all. Just sick of people who think they know enough about drugs to even have opinions, or try and say what harmful effects they have. And like I've stated. I actually study the shit, I plan to attain a degree in this field, after I finish my courses in Web Development. Doesn't hurt to be successful, and I am disgusted by the age, level of success, and education of those who have posted in here.

  • @jonharson Same thing I said to everyone else applies to you as well. Either you are an educated person, who can come here and debate intellectually, or you have nothing to disprove my arguement, and the best idea you had was to attempt to insult me. I think the amount of people I've helped stay as safe as possible when experimenting with controlled substances...

  • outweighs the importance of those who dislike that their misguided views are proven wrong. My answers on yahoo on pharmacological subjects are chosen as best answer. And a bunch of people who disliked what I had to say reported me, but I directly contacted the Yahoo Team, and they approve my answers, and either warn, or disallow people who falsely try and have my answers removed.

  • Man I love being smarter than these morons who talk trash to me. God another good day. Hahaha fucking puny pieces of trash. Get a job you bums, and an education

  • WHAT THE FUCK who the FUCK writes a whole essay in the YouTube comments, get the hell out of here shit head.

  • Get off his back you jerk!

  • Thanks dude, and @zaxjackson, lol it's not an essay, it's everything I have at the tip of my mind. And it's purpose was to keep people from making uneducated assumptions. It's lame, and people need to stop judging others. Really, you have no right to judge anyone for doing drugs, unless they commit crimes. Then yes, they shouldn't be doing drugs. I'm sick of people though who don't know the difference between making meth the cheap way, and full synthesis. And also not knowing it's medicinal

  • properties. And sick of people watching an above the influence commercial, or hearing this and that, and then pushing their beliefs on others. Either educate yourselves on a subject before you throw your opinion in. Or be prepared to be proved wrong. I know people most in the e world would love to talk to just once. Strike is awesome, as is Shulgin. They are more educated than any of the people in power that classified these drugs wrongly. And they're scrutinized by the uneducated.

  • In this video, these people are so dumb. For safe synthesis you need to get yourself:

    Distillation apparatus (24/40)

    2 500ml RBF's

    1 1000ml RBF

    1 2000ml RBF

    Magnetic Stir bar/heat plate

    Ice, ether, dimethylformamide, phenylephrine, lye, and a few others. Muriatic acid being in there. But the difference that makes it or breaks it is you don't shake and bake, and you don't use bs from your kitchen. Unless these people have done their research, past clicking the first site to come up with the

  • crappy nazi method, red white and blue, shake and bake, etc. First off yeah if you want to yield like a gram or two of meth, for idk about a hundred bucks... and have a huge risk of blowing your shit up, and just from the sketchiness attract any attention, I guess it makes sense... Sarcasm. But no, you learn, you live life, and you realize you gotta be smart. Any drug dealer should be smart as fuck, because it would only ensure them not getting caught. And not harming anyone. Plus making it

  • the correct way, and not cutting with harmful products, and letting people know what to take as far as vitamins, antioxidants, etc. Would keep them in pretty good health, and returning. Thus no dead persons from your product, and trusted buyers. It's business.

  • For all who care to waste my time, coming here and telling me to get a life, etc. Before doing so, know that I make more than your parents a week. I'm finished my first 4 courses in my web development program at the university. I have a permanent job despite the recession. I'm 18. And partying isn't my "life" anymore. And most of the friends etc. my age just aren't in the mindset to do anything with their lives, etc. I only associate with people doing something with their life. Keeps me on track

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  • Still saw what your comment said and funny thing is you may think what you want. I devote my time to helping educate people. Anyone who bases their opinion on what they see, in this single video, is retarded. So if that's how you roll, good for you, glad you will go no farther than holding that guitar in your picture. Glad you also won't succeed in life. Good luck, at least I've got an education, and a job. Keep bringing the hate comments. In the end, I still end up on top. And many read this

  • What I meant is people base their comments on how you behave on the comment section, saying you have a job doesn't mean shit on the internet, it's an even playing ground. A side effect of meth is obsession... you make the connection. I was 14 in that picture, I'm 15 now. I'll take some time to brag meaninglessly like you have. I've been playing live gigs since I was 14 and have recorded professionally with my dad, who attended Humbar college of the arts, for music and graduated. Bye, for good.

  • And that's fine. You miss my whole point in the fact that this is my minor, and once I finish my courses for web development, and have my bachelors, I'm pursuing my degree in pharmacology. I don't have a single fucking obsession with meth, or a drug in particular. I just have the damn knowledge to tell people how wrong they are. And wow, if your so great where's your record deal? Professionally isn't recording with your dad while you two play with each other. Get a record deal.

  • And lmao, your maximum salary, will not ever be in the 6 digits, or near that. My base salary with bachelors once I finish is 90k a year. And with pharmacology, working for a pharmaceutical company as one of the chemists, yeah. And "obsession" isn't one of the side effects of meth. Dude you focus when you put your mind to something, but when not used to treat adhd as desoxyn it has the opposite effect. So right there you just made a fool of yourself. And you weren't 14 in that picture

  • Or else you wouldn't come here talking shit on someone who's only pointing out the medicinal values, and proper use. I don't obsess over meth, I've studied every illicit drug, but a plethora (still expanding) of pharmaceuticals. The only thing I "obsess" about is the fact that the effects these drugs produce, can be synthesized much safer. And I don't think anyone who does stupid shit, should use the damn drugs. Funny thing is the meth you think you did was just amphetamines. Lol or adderol

  • AS that would possibly give a closer side effect to obsession. And if the shit didn't have you up for 4 days straight, on only a 250 mg line, it for sure wasn't pure meth. It's called crank for a reason. And as for meth, I'd only done that a handful of times in my past, not even, maybe 4. I liked e above all, and mary j. Yeah dude your talking about speed man, that's where obsession comes from.

  • holy shit, EXTREME LOSER ALERT! crazykidcapa i really cant believe how much you have dedicated yourself to a youtube comment debate. i dont belieive you have many friends, and you probably dont earn alot of money working at McDonalds. every comment you post bragging enourmous amounts of bullshit is only testamont to how much of a total obsessive loser you really are.

    its sad.

  • LMAO if you say so dude. Like I said keep the hate coming in forms of non-educated responses. Just immature attempts to annoy me. I take pride in being educated dude. My bad you don't. Nice try with the Mcdonalds, but that's far from where I work. Closest one is about 20 mins away. I work in warehousing, thank you very much. 15 dollars an hour base pay, plus overtime, plus incentive such as 105 percent efficiency means another 75 cents an hour. The average efficiency for the week determines

  • @crazykidcapa are you an orderfiller at a distribution center??

  • @GregoryGraveyard

    Haha you know it, selector position, night shift. Barely get a chance to come online anymore, have messages to reply to. But yeah, it pays the bills, andthensome. Best part is these kids felt the need to post hate comments, but still made no valid arguement. The fact that my facts still stand, and the work of great scientists like Alexander Shulgin can't be waived by propaganda.

  • @crazykidcapa ya your pay details sounded so familiar, i was a selector in the freezer for walmart in steubenville ohio for 3 years. keep up you're reading dude sounds like you're learning a ton

  • Thanks man, good luck to you too. All this debating should be good experience in arguing the points for later, but as you can see none of the responders to my posts have done more than call me names, make assumptions on my social status, etc. Lol from an evaluatory point of view, it's easy to digress and assume they themselves are exactly what they charge me with. Best part is I don't even do drugs anymore, yet remain an active voice for their importance.

  • How much above 15 it is. night shift, 9 pm, to whenever we finish, which is either 7 or 8, sometimes 9. Good job spelling testimony... And good job making a false accusation. The whole obsessive part is still a failed attempt you kids have come up with. It's not sad that i try to educate sadistic creepo's like yourself. And the rest of the world who looks down upon things they know nothing of. End of story, I presented the facts, and the kids like you, who keep coming to flame, are the only

  • Reasons I even respond. The fact that you speak like that shows you yourself are an immature child yet. With no job yourself, nor credentials. Man, I wish someone here with actual knowledge would come and say something. Other than that, you kids are exactly the type of people that caused me to start debating in the first place. You open your mouths, where you really have no right. And make assumptions, that make you look immature. Keep further making my statement true. More square's like you

  • Do bad in tests, and tend to go nowhere in life.

  • If you don't have anything to bring to this that es educated in the least. Any further attempt at making assumptions about me will just be ignored. The fact that you came in, and even made a response, contradicts your point for even commenting. I love how no one can actually prove my information about these drugs wrong, so they come in and just jump to attacking me. Haha. Little kids...

  • @keeptyping

    "holy shit, EXTREME LOSER ALERT!......"

    Capfagging Troll = Loser, bro. Sorry, but that's how it goes.

  • And at least you correlated a "druggie" with being educated lol. Your opinion that I'm a meth head would only give positive feedback to meth. And help. So please, call me any drug head. As the fact that I take random tests for my job, and maintain good grades in college is good enough for me. Your belief is based on nothing. Your education and credentials compared to mine, nothing. So basically your another drone. Nothing at all. So when I talk to my professors, I acknowledge them. When you come

  • Talking shit, I acknowledge a peasant. A drone, a waste of space. You don't extend your knowledge or wish to exceed others' understanding of things. You don't benefit our race in any way. So I'm glad you "non-druggie" morons keep coming in and making the ex-druggie look better. Thank you for only helping my cause in proving the stereotypes wrong. And also helping to prove that a moron, is a moron with or without drugs. Sweetness. Please keep coming, I await more merit.

  • And once again to respond to this, I never said the users that DO do these things, don't affect others, etc. I just said you can't associate their mistakes, with the lives of every single drug user. Just as you can't prohibit guns, because some psycho wants to blow others away. Nor do they prohibit alcohol because of the amount of spousal abuse, crashes, etc. Nor tobacco, etc. So all in all, I've had no one actually give a credible response.

  • lol what the fuck? you must have no friends or life. i have never seen anyone so fucking obsessed with a youtube comment debate. get a life you fucking loser.

  • Dude when I'm not workin, doing reports for the university and shit, and not chillin with my girl I'm online studying up. Boo hoo, you call me the loser yet my knowledge is what earns me a great deal of success in life. If having no life is having a great life count me top of the list. As for friends, lol my myspace and facebook, and phonebook easily discredit that. Over 2500 friends, over half I know and are from the area. The rest know me from my parts in Pawoods bmx dvd's and my part in

  • the mutiny video. I'm not obsessed with debating in general, just tired of seeing uneducated people throw their opinions down like they have any idea what they're talking about.

  • ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha­haha

  • ¨Go ahead and add the ether...¨

    BOOOOOOM!!

    LAMO!!

  • And to further debate with you people, this person was a complete MORON, any real chemist knows you can SYNTHESIZE these drugs harmlessly, when you have the permit to, and aren't in any chance of trouble. Hell you could make much SAFER meth, because it would lack a lot of the impurities, if not all. I just get sick of people having opinions on something they themselves have no EXPERIENCE in. I HAVE BEEN ADDICTED, and I'm fine now. Know yourself, know the drug, know what's right from wrong.

  • you started out strong, but once you said something about ubernerds killing people for an xbox360 and that drug addicts dont steal more than the average citizen i laughed so hard. you ever stop and think that overall, you've been exposed to drug addicts who probably couldnt represent drug addicts as a whole?

  • Dude on a whole, in studies, they steal no more than the average messed up citizen. And no one can stand for either group to represent as a whole. But seriously, and I'm sorry if you think gangs can represent the drug community your way off, they steal either way. So you take your average drug user, non gang member, non criminal. The everyday drug user, and see how bad that person really is. No worse off than a normal person. Everyone has a crutch, whether it be a drug, or a mental thing. Study

  • 1) Show me what studies you're talking about. And let me know what an "average messed up citizen is"

    2) "Take your average drug user, non gang member, non criminal".... Using illegal drugs is a crime last time I checked. Which is part of the reason drug users are prone to committing more serious crimes.

    3) Yeah everyone has some sort of crutch, whether it be immersing themselves in heroin or in something like music or calculus.

  • 1. will repost with links.

    2. A. by constitution what you use and do to yourself is your freedom. The law in place is a breach of the laws set forth that this country was built upon. It is a crime, in the eyes of those who choose to determine what is, and what is not, acceptable for society, based on monetary concerns.

    3. Video games cause health problems, eating certain foods causes health problems, etc. So tell me where marijuana or pure mdma falls under anything dangerous?

  • 1)still waiting for links

    2)Unless your impinging upon someone else's life or freedom, i.e. blowing upbystanders trying to cook your own meth (for personal use so it's all right) or going on a two week tweak(in your own home, so it's all right) and then punching the convenience store clerk down the street for short changing you cause youre so fucked out of your face.

    3) Yeah, I guess when the health card is played, its best to resort to pot or hallucinogens.

  • A. Marijuana is not physically or mentally addictive, nor does it cause cancer, or deaths. Cigarettes are legal, tobacco, and caffeine. These are drugs, both with very bad health problems as well, yet legal. And socially acceptable, why? Because they make the government a hell of a lot of money. Alcohol, how many drunk guys have you heard about beating their wives, drunk teens crashing their cars, committing crimes, etc. Yet it's legal. So your point is moot when it can be said about legal drugs

  • Did you really just say something (a psychoactive nonetheless) is not mentally addicting? There goes your skewed pseudo-worldly perception again. And if youre listing all these legal drugs and the fucked up stuff that comes about because of them then why would you be all that pissed that hard drugs aren't legal? You obviously have intelligence, stop using it to make some sort of "logical" excuse to use again. If you haven't already.

  • I won't use again, and even if I would, there would be no ethical right or wrong. Your medicinal knowledge, and your background is most likely that of someone who has never even done the drugs buddy. As for links if this comment even posts, do a search for yourself. I tire of arguing when you still haven't brought any data in. As far as Ecstacy it is not addictive. Meaning there are no addictive chemicals in it, people keep using because they don't like the real world. They're choice.

  • Yeah, because if you do drugs you're immediately bestowed a wealth of knowledge on the subject. And I guess in your case you can make up peer reviewed studies, too. You get the amount of supposed knowledge that you're flaunting by researching the subject obsessively. Keep on playin your Uncle Fester role playing fantasy and live long and prosper

  • No, doing the drugs alone doesn't bestow a knowledge of wealth on them. And they aren't my OBSESSIVE study, I stud pharmacology in whole. From simple aspirin and tylenol up. Not for ways to get high, you can get high off of a lot of things, should you? No. And you think I sit here defending the criminals, murderers, gangs, etc. That use drugs. That is incorrect. I defend the person who works a job, and is a good citizen, and keeps their drug use within their home, not affecting another.

  • And my amount of "supposed" knowledge is not what I flaunt. Put it this way, pure mdma has no addictive qualities, whatsoever. The addiction you refer to is someone's WANT to keep using the drug. This is NOT the case with heroin, or meth, as they give your body false implications of Dopamine, and other neuro-chemicals. E itself pushes a rush of serotonin out, then blocks reabsorbtion of tryptophan. Vitamin E, C, and supplement 5 HTP eliminates that harsh comedown. My knowledge comes from the

  • fact that I have been able to stay off of all drugs, for over 5 months now, and have no want whatsoever to do them again. Maybe when I'm retired I'll smoke some ganja in my home. My whole point is that people associate so many stereotypes upon all drug users. And it's wrong. The one's who abuse, and misuse, and commit crimes against others, or disassociate themselves from their social life. They are all people who have proved the drugs aren't for them.

  • The knowledge I have is from both knowing the chemical make up, synthesis, and research, along with knowing effects both positive and negative from my past association with them. I also know the mental addiction associated with ecstacy is the person's want to re-use for different reasons. Not the drug's make up itself. Ecstacy can be used to look at your life, see how you can make it better, and then do those things when you're off of it. You eliminate the "need" for it then. But... some people

  • Don't believe they can make those things happen, give up, or just don't want to. They feel being high all the time is better. This I DO NOT agree with. I could see if I had come here saying hey everyone drugs are in no way whatsoever bad, go do them. This is not true. I've merely stated the facts as far as pure mdma, and marijuana are concerned. I, myself, believe that if you use a drug, to not escape, but look at the problems you have, and find an actual good way to solve those, and then don't

  • and then don't use again. What is the problem with that? Yes a meth-user that is spending their money all on meth, or a maker that takes the shortcut to produce very harmful impure forms, or those who steal to afford, and hurt others because of it. They all deserve jail, and they all need to stay away from the drugs. But there are people who can handle using even the most addictive drugs, and not becoming addicted. I don't fashion peer reviewed studies, I don't research obsessively. I just did

  • my research on them to find out what they really do. Abovetheinfluence blatantly and arrogantly just shows pot heads that are really just lazy, immature, irresponsible people to begin with, and dumb to begin with. That is all, along with exaggerating the effects as well. I don't believe in this. They should more subjectively show the ways TO use it, vs. the ways it IS used, and advise that if you can't use correctly, this is what will happen. Same with mdma, pure form it is not really unhealthy

  • But there are dealers, that pawn off pma, or caffeine and other mixtures, as E. Or put a little E in, but also add the caffeine, etc. These are bad people, this is why if regulated, and controlled as much as painkillers, not so strongly enforced against and misjudged, would eliminate these morons concoctions, and someone with depression who doesn't easily get addicted to things, or cause habits would most likely be able to handle using it once, following steps to maintain that happiness without

  • Needing it again. Most depression is either a serotonin, or dopamine imbalance. And yes, ecstacy can, in HIGH doses, and daily use over a long time, in itself cause a serotonin imbalance. So can tramadol, most analgesics, prescribed as pain-killers and mood enhancers. Yet they also carry MANY adverse side effects. And the only serotonin imbalances caused and reported to be directly linked to ecstacy have showed that by not using anymore, most if not all serotonin emitters can reform.

  • So far the only things you HAVE brought to this debate are, me being obsessive, which is only an accusation, stereotypical responses, again opinion, and blowing off actually bringing any intellectual basis for your arguement to begin with. If your another person who battled addiction, then succeeded, that's fine and great for you. But you hypocritically base your arguement upon your own irresponsibilities. And stereotype that into all drug users.

  • The fact that you googled, and found erowid, google'd and found pikhal, tikhal, and possibly "the complete synthesis", yet didn't further develop any knowledge of Shulgins reports, on dosage, and usage, along with actually go join drugs-forum, and ask the many "swimmers" their for information. As well as take a notebook, as you do with any subject you study, write down all the negative and positives, and find hard evidence for each side. Then add your own personal experiences, along with account

  • s of others, and truly form your opinion. I reiterate, for I don't even know what time, I DO NOT condone, approve, or entice that people try or use drugs. My only fight is for those who manage their drug use, and their life, without negative consequence